[Witchfinder General]

If this is the case, don't even worry about the scale, your probably just losing fat and gaining muscle. The number on the scale on really not that important, as long as you look better. The routine sounds good and if your enjoying it, I say stick with it. Although maybe you could add a little weight training. (Im not an expert on this though.) As for the diet, It looks fine, but don't be afraid of fat, it won't slow down your weight loss, and really isn't bad for you. So, enjoy your full-fat bacon and eggs.

Whelp, I weighed myself again this morning and I lost 1kg overnight which means I'm back to last weeks weight. I think you guys are right; I'm going to for the most part ignore the scales and just concentrate on my training.

In regards to adding a little bit of weight training, what should I do to compliment my push ups/sit ups? Keep in mind I can't install a pull-up bar.

Thanks for the advice so far, guys.

[dantehemi]

Have to go buy new jeans, again, and some summer shorts today. Losing weight is expensive. :P Down about 30 pounds and 4 (almost 5) pant sizes since last year at this time.

Love it!!! Thats what I call a "good problem" I had to go buy new jeans last week... Down to a 48 from 50 and I'm expecting 46 to be coming up really soon (based on the way the 48's are fitting) told my self as a reward, when I get to a 36-38 I'm going to buy a sick pair of jeans, a pair of those $300 jeans... I wouldn't even care about the money I spent... I would be too happy that I'm wearing "normal" jean sizes.

[dantehemi]

Whelp, I weighed myself again this morning and I lost 1kg overnight which means I'm back to last weeks weight. I think you guys are right; I'm going to for the most part ignore the scales and just concentrate on my training. In regards to adding a little bit of weight training, what should I do to compliment my push ups/sit ups? Keep in mind I can't install a pull-up bar. Thanks for the advice so far, guys.

Well I know for my self a pair of 25lb dumb bells is good for a lot of exercises I'm doing. -shoulder presses, bicep curls, back rows (using a chair), weighted lunges, holding the weights in hand and walking up and down flights of stairs, tons of different moves you can do with them... And the best part is they don't take up alot of space (I keep them in front of the couch and knock out some sets whenever a commercial comes on, or whenever I feel the need to move some weight)

[Gruco]

Guyenet's April Fool's post is pretty damn funny

Our true, deepest evolutionary adaptations are to the foods that sustained our primate ancestors for the tens of millions of years prior to the Paleolithic. That's why I designed the Eocene Diet (TM).

[Bealost]

I laughed. The sad part is the reasoning behind is pretty similar to what you see with most raw food diets. Change the photos a bit and remove some of the really obviously sarcastic bits (Like looking for food under rotting logs). Cross-post it to another website and presto, the next fad diet.

[AceBandage]

Hey, chocolate covered grasshoppers are a delicacy in some countries.

[bro1]

Here is my progress so far. I don't have an absolute up to date photo, but I'm about 5lbs heavier than the last photo, mostly muscle:

[harSon]

Here's my quarterly progress report. I've now dropped down to 194.5 pounds from 351 pounds for a total of 156.5 pounds lost. From a 3XL shirt to a medium. And from a 48inch waist to a 34 inch waist. I'm pretty close to my goal weight of 180-190 pounds, so I won't be losing that much weight from here on out. Now it's time to put on some muscle!

[speedline]

Here's my quarterly progress report. I've now dropped down to 194.5 pounds from 351 pounds for a total of 156.5 pounds lost. From a 3XL shirt to a medium. And from a 48inch waist to a 34 inch waist. I'm pretty close to my goal weight of 180-190 pounds, so I won't be losing that much weight from here on out. Now it's time to put on some muscle!

Awesome man, so what was your method?

[Piecake]

I got a question on Wine's impact on heart health and whether its actually a positive

Basically, I really dont understand how wine supposedly reduces heart attack risk if you only drink a glass a day since that will raise your good cholesterol and lower your triglycerides, but if you drink a lot it will raise your triglycerides and increase the bad cholesterol. That makes very little sense to me.

That also makes very little sense to me considering that I am now quite convinced that saturated fat doesnt have a negative impact on heart health and actually betters your HDL/Tri levels (though does apparently increase your bad cholesterol, just increases good cholesterol more - which apparently is ok). The thing that worsens those levels is consuming carbs (mostly sugar and ethanol). How does it make sense then that a wine (ethanol), lowers triglycerides in small amounts, but increases it in large amounts when it seems pretty apparent to me that sucrose/fructose and ethanol are basically the ONLY things that raise your Tri levels

Perhaps Ive got something mistaken in there, so any clarification would be nice

[Hackbert]

@nerdy1

nice work !
I´m hoping and aiming to get to an upper body like yours. I don´t need much more muscle bot the proportions look great

edit : Great progress harSon. congrats

[grumble]

I got a question on Wine's impact on heart health and whether its actually a positive Basically, I really dont understand how wine supposedly reduces heart attack risk if you only drink a glass a day since that will raise your good cholesterol and lower your triglycerides, but if you drink a lot it will raise your triglycerides and increase the bad cholesterol. That makes very little sense to me. That also makes very little sense to me considering that I am now quite convinced that saturated fat doesnt have a negative impact on heart health and actually betters your HDL/Tri levels (though does apparently increase your bad cholesterol, just increases good cholesterol more - which apparently is ok). The thing that worsens those levels is consuming carbs (mostly sugar and ethanol). How does it make sense then that a wine (ethanol), lowers triglycerides in small amounts, but increases it in large amounts when it seems pretty apparent to me that sucrose/fructose and ethanol are basically the ONLY things that raise your Tri levels Perhaps Ive got something mistaken in there, so any clarification would be nice

Funnily enough, it's not really wine that does it. It's alcohol. One to two drinks per day reduces your risk of heart disease somewhere between 30-50%, and that can be wine, beer or liquor. The resveratrol stuff is mostly marketing.

This is a correlation, so there needs to be more research. Do moderate drinkers lead different lives otherwise? Are they thinner and more fit?

[LegoArmo]

How tall are you harSon? Amazing progress.

[Piecake]

Funnily enough, it's not really wine that does it. It's alcohol. One to two drinks per day reduces your risk of heart disease somewhere between 30-50%, and that can be wine, beer or liquor. The resveratrol stuff is mostly marketing. This is a correlation, so there needs to be more research. Do moderate drinkers lead different lives otherwise? Are they thinner and more fit?

But I really dont understand why that is the case considering that Ethanol and sugar are the carbs that jack up your triglyceride levels. That makes absolutely no sense to me (i have no knowledge of biochemistry, so that might be why it makes no sense to me) Though I guess if its just a correlation, it could be way off.

[teh_pwn]

But I really dont understand why that is the case considering that Ethanol and sugar are the carbs that jack up your triglyceride levels. That makes absolutely no sense to me (i have no knowledge of biochemistry, so that might be why it makes no sense to me) Though I guess if its just a correlation, it could be way off.

Like grumble said, it needs more study. Even if it is causation, you also need to consider total mortality.

Resveratrol does reduce the rate of heart disease, but not in the amounts in wine. GSK is in phase 2 (?) trials for Resveratrol based drugs. The obese rats on the drug live just about as long as controls rats (thin, no drug). But the amount of resveratrol to stimulate sirtuins would have enough alcohol to kill you 10 times.

[harSon]

Awesome man, so what was your method?

I lost a significant portion of it by counting calories, then I transitioned into a low-carb ketosis diet and I've recently turned that into a low-carb Paleo diet. While I was progressively more active as I lost weight, I didn't actually start exercising until September 2011. So the majority of the weight up until that point was lost through pure diet. Now I've been lifting, doing Insanity, jogging, playing basketball regularly, etc on a consistent basis on top of my dieting.

How tall are you harSon? Amazing progress.

I'm 6'2"

[Castor Krieg]

How much should I weight? I'm 172cm, and so far I've been mostly 71-72kg. The lowest has been 62-64kg a few years ago, then 78kg on instant noodles in Japan. I think I will start exercising and building muscles, 28 years of age is probably time where your metabolism gives up and you start accumulating fat no matter what, correct?

[Little Old Man]

Everyone in this thread post these amazing transformations all look about ten years younger, I'm not kidding.

[Piecake]

How much should I weight? I'm 172cm, and so far I've been mostly 71-72kg. The lowest has been 62-64kg a few years ago, then 78kg on instant noodles in Japan. I think I will start exercising and building muscles, 28 years of age is probably time where your metabolism gives up and you start accumulating fat no matter what, correct?

Nope, old people are fat because of a poor diet, not because their metabolism went to hell

[Castor Krieg]

Nope, old people are fat because of a poor diet, not because their metabolism went to hell

Really? But how is the diet different from when they were 15-25 years old? More beer?

[vaelic]

has anyone tried this book "the 17 day diet?" any positive results?

http://www.the17daydiet.com/

[teh_pwn]

Really? But how is the diet different from when they were 15-25 years old? More beer?

Sure, in your teens growth hormone and other stuff makes it harder to overeat. There's probably other factors like damage from bad food accumulating, whether it's insulin insensitivty or food addiction or unknowns. But you can lookup photos of middle aged to old people in other countries, in tribal villages or in United States history. They're typically pretty thin.

[Piecake]

Really? But how is the diet different from when they were 15-25 years old? More beer?

Someone more knowledgeable than me can probably explain it better (or more correctly), but you are not doomed to being more and more of a lard ass as you get older. I believe you are right though, that your metabolism is better when you are younger and it gets worse over time (but can be improved with exercise). The issue is though that diet has a FAR FAR FAR greater impact on weight gain/weight loss than exercise or your metabolism.

As for why do people get fatter as they get older, i would guess its probably a constant build up of shit food over the years turning into fat that slowly gets worse as their metabolism weakens due to a lack of exercise. Simple way to fix that is just eat a whole lot better

[cuevas, PhD.]

has anyone tried this book "the 17 day diet?" any positive results? http://www.the17daydiet.com/

You cant do anything in 17 days.

[vaelic]

You cant do anything in 17 days.

any tips on where to begin? im 200 lbs , 5'7 age 36. I take pills for cholesterol. I really want to begin my diet, but dont know where to start for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

[Castor Krieg]

any tips on where to begin? im 200 lbs , 5'7 age 36. I take pills for cholesterol. I really want to begin my diet, but dont know where to start for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

Do not buy pre-packed things, for breakfast you can make eggs, maybe a sandwich. Even damn cereal will do. Just make sure for lunch you get something healthy, like a salad. When you go back home as well - make yourself some pasta.

As long as you don't buy pre-packed, frozen food, don't add lot of oil (hi Jamie Oliver!) you will see a world of difference.

[vaelic]

Do not buy pre-packed things, for breakfast you can make eggs, maybe a sandwich. Even damn cereal will do. Just make sure for lunch you get something healthy, like a salad. When you go back home as well - make yourself some pasta. As long as you don't buy pre-packed, frozen food, don't add lot of oil (hi Jamie Oliver!) you will see a world of difference.

I imagine a salad with no dressing? just plain?

[Castor Krieg]

I imagine a salad with no dressing? just plain?

Some vinegar is fine. If you want dressing simply check calories, they are sometimes very very different. Definitely don't do the stuff on the cooking shows, the amount of oil they spill on the salad is 300-400cal of pure fat. As I mentioned, Jamie Oliver is the main offender here.

The "check calories" rule applies to all foods, even the ones advertised as "low calories" e.g. regular yogurt will be 100cal, "low-calories" one will be 95cal, lol.

[Piecake]

Some vinegar is fine. If you want dressing simply check calories, they are sometimes very very different. Definitely don't do the stuff on the cooking shows, the amount of oil they spill on the salad is 300-400cal of pure fat. As I mentioned, Jamie Oliver is the main offender here. The "check calories" rule applies to all foods, even the ones advertised as "low calories" e.g. regular yogurt will be 100cal, "low-calories" one will be 95cal, lol.

I think most people in this thread have converted to the no/low carb diet so their opinion is probably radically different than yours. Basically, fat and saturated fat is perfectly fine and then thing you need to avoid is carbs, and avoid sucrose, fructose and HFCS at all cost. So what might doom that dressing is not the fat, but if it contains sucrose or fructose

[Shogmaster]

Do not buy pre-packed things, for breakfast you can make eggs, maybe a sandwich. Even damn cereal will do. Just make sure for lunch you get something healthy, like a salad. When you go back home as well - make yourself some pasta. As long as you don't buy pre-packed, frozen food, don't add lot of oil (hi Jamie Oliver!) you will see a world of difference.

Seriously? No pre packed food, no oil but do go ahead and eat pasta for dinner? That's not gonna lose your fat. Pasta every night = fatter you.

And oils are good for you, as long as it's not trans fats and gets you right balance of Omega 3 and 6. Just don't over do it and you are fine. And pre-packed food is fine too if you bother to read the back and see what's actually in it. The info is right there for you to use accordingly. Nothing magical about home made food vs factory food. Shitty ingredient is still shitty ingredient even if you cook it yourself. Pasta is just pure carbs and will NOT help you to get leaner.

[Akim]

Do not buy pre-packed things, for breakfast you can make eggs, maybe a sandwich. Even damn cereal will do. Just make sure for lunch you get something healthy, like a salad. When you go back home as well - make yourself some pasta. As long as you don't buy pre-packed, frozen food, don't add lot of oil (hi Jamie Oliver!) you will see a world of difference.

the fuck?

april fools?

[Tmac]

Lately i have been putting a lot of focus on an exercise routine and i'm wondering if it's too much.

I've been doing at least 6 x 90 minutes a week of walking. For a while it's working but sometimes i wonder if it is the right thing to do.

[ch0mp]

Lately i have been putting a lot of focus on an exercise routine and i'm wondering if it's too much. I've been doing at least 6 x 90 minutes a week of walking. For a while it's working but sometimes i wonder if it is the right thing to do.

I think with low intensity stuff like walking you can do as much as you like. If you were running I would say it's too much though.

[Dr. Feel Good]

Is it possible the last five or so pounds to take off won't come off by just low carb?

[GatorBait]

What do you guys think of a diet of ~1600 calories per day? I'm 5'9", 190 lbs. I'd like to lose ~2 lbs per week. I'll be doing 45-minutes of steady state cardio 4-5 times per week in addition to that diet.

[Deadly Cyclone]

Wow, somehow, despite last week being a rest week for P90X2 and the only exercising I did being a 2 mile run on Tuesday I still lost 3 pounds.

Down to 203, that's 30 pounds lost since last year at this time, and 20 since starting P90X2. Now to break the 200 mark. :D

[RubxQub]

What do you guys think of a diet of ~1600 calories per day? I'm 5'9", 190 lbs. I'd like to lose ~2 lbs per week. I'll be doing 45-minutes of steady state cardio 4-5 times per week in addition to that diet.

That seems like a lot of cardio. When you say "steady state" do you mean low impact, light heart rate type stuff as in walking or an elliptical or something?

Also, what's your diet going to consist of to get those 1600 calories?

[hateful]

progress.jpg Here's my quarterly progress report. I've now dropped down to 194.5 pounds from 351 pounds for a total of 156.5 pounds lost. From a 3XL shirt to a medium. And from a 48inch waist to a 34 inch waist. I'm pretty close to my goal weight of 180-190 pounds, so I won't be losing that much weight from here on out. Now it's time to put on some muscle!

That's awesome, man.

Just one question... do you live out of your car? lol

[harSon]

That's awesome, man. Just one question... do you live out of your car? lol

No haha! It's just tradition for me to take a comparative picture at the start of every college quarter. The first picture is the day I left for my first day at college, and every subsequent picture is before I leave for the new quarter.

[noire]

Moving into a new apartment on Wednesday. I've been staying with a friend while in transition and eating like hell. Can't wait to cook again and get back on track.

[Chittagong]

Amazing job. Looks like someone stretched the pic vertically :D

[Gruco]

Tip 'o the hat to 60 minutes for a solid report on sugar.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_16...in;contentBody

[mooooose]

Trying to keep low carb. Been eating a lot of eggs, wraps (at school, so this is one of the lowest carb this around, usually do whole wheat, turkey, mozzerella and either a little ranch or honey mustard), beef, and fish. A snack I've been making a lot of is pizza on flatouts which are like 16g carb for the bread then probably around 5g carb for the sauce which doesn't seem bad.

Never drink soda or anything. So far, I haven't lost much if any weight. I go to the gym 3 or 4 times a week and do heavy lifting and eat A LOT of this food I'm listing, but mostly because I'm actually hungry and trying to get enough protein in. But keeping it decently low carb, I'm a little frustrated.

For the record, I'm 5'6" and around 165, definitely my heaviest.

[Mook1e]

Taken from the post a pic of yourself thread. I'm cutting for 4 weeks. I started on 20 March here:


here's the latest 02 April:



I've lost 9 pounds in 2 weeks. I haven't lost any strength..yet.
Went from 190 to 181. I don't want to lose much more, but we'll see. After I cut, I'm going to bulk to 200 (i hope). It's going to be close to impossible to do naturally, but that's the only way I roll.

[grumble]

Great results, but you might be better suited to the fitness thread than the weight loss thread

[GatorBait]

That seems like a lot of cardio. When you say "steady state" do you mean low impact, light heart rate type stuff as in walking or an elliptical or something? Also, what's your diet going to consist of to get those 1600 calories?

Exercise: a combination of low impact, light/medium heart rate activity, along with basketball (which skews toward anaerobic activity) once a week or so. I expect to ramp up my exercise schedule and readjust calories at certain weight-loss milestones (i.e. add in body weight exercises at a certain point, more demanding cardio to include outdoor running, and the eventually a full blown weight training regimen).

Diet is going to consist primarily of whole, lean foods: fish/seafood, lean meat (chicken, beef, pork), eggs, nuts, plenty of veggies, fruits (primarily berries), legumes and whole grains, low-fat dairy, and healthy oils/fats.

[Piecake]

Exercise: a combination of low impact, light/medium heart rate activity, along with basketball (which skews toward anaerobic activity) once a week or so. I expect to ramp up my exercise schedule and readjust calories at certain weight-loss milestones (i.e. add in body weight exercises at a certain point, more demanding cardio to include outdoor running, and the eventually a full blown weight training regimen). Diet is going to consist primarily of whole, lean foods: fish/seafood, lean meat (chicken, beef, pork), eggs, nuts, plenty of veggies, fruits (primarily berries), legumes and whole grains, low-fat dairy, and healthy oils/fats.

nothing wrong with fat. Embrace the delciousness

[GatorBait]

nothing wrong with fat. Embrace the delciousness

Multiple items in my list include fats, but I also have to keep in mind total calories while losing weight, so there are areas that are better served for me to pick-and-choose to go with leaner/lower-fat products to keep calories in check.

[Piecake]

Multiple items in my list include fats, but I also have to keep in mind total calories while losing weight, so there are areas that are better served for me to pick-and-choose to go with leaner/lower-fat products to keep calories in check.

I doubt youd need to count calories if you keep to that kind of diet, and counting calories might hurt your in the long run since youd just be so sick of starving yourself that you just end up quitting. A lot of people have had success with that diet (probably minus the whole wheat, but whole wheat is alright) without counting calories

[teh_pwn]

Multiple items in my list include fats, but I also have to keep in mind total calories while losing weight, so there are areas that are better served for me to pick-and-choose to go with leaner/lower-fat products to keep calories in check.

If you're going with that approach, at least choose low fat foods that satiate. Try boiled potatoes and lean steaks.