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Sanjuro
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(02-06-2010, 03:10 AM)
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Figured I would ask in this thread. I had some Bose compainion speakers given to me as a gift and the lack of a shield and some of the pitches would make awkward sounds I decided to sell it and get another pair.

I'm dealing with a close to $50 budget so my options are thin. I picked up some of these at Best Buy. The audio quality is...pretty poor I have to admit. I'm not a huge audiophile but looking for something decent for a pair of 2.0 speakers. I'm more of a b&m guy so not sure what else there is.

Thanks.
nitewulf
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(02-06-2010, 03:56 AM)
dude, your best bet is this:
http://www.theaudioinsider.com/produ...products_id=80

$50 is really...too tight for quality audio. you guys spend a lot on games/dvds and what not, spend a bit for these speakers, and they will pay off in spades.
Dice
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(02-06-2010, 03:57 AM)
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I'm getting MkIIIs this month if the shipment comes in as they say.
Sanjuro
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(02-06-2010, 04:08 AM)
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Originally Posted by nitewulf

dude, your best bet is this:
http://www.theaudioinsider.com/produ...products_id=80

$50 is really...too tight for quality audio. you guys spend a lot on games/dvds and what not, spend a bit for these speakers, and they will pay off in spades.

...the price tag on that is $250.

I mean I could go a "little" higher than $50. Not $200 dollars more.
giga
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(02-06-2010, 04:27 AM)
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What is "little"? Can you go up to $100? Do you have a spare receiver/amp?
Sanjuro
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(02-06-2010, 04:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by giga

What is "little"? Can you go up to $100? Do you have a spare receiver/amp?

Little meaning maybe $10-15 dollars. I have no audio equipment.
giga
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(02-06-2010, 05:06 AM)
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Unless you find some miracle at a garage sale, you're not gonna get anything worthwhile to be honest. Basically just logitech pc speakers.

$100 you at least have a few choices.
Alucrid
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(02-06-2010, 05:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by Sanjuro Tsubaki

...the price tag on that is $250.

I mean I could go a "little" higher than $50. Not $200 dollars more.

On the same site check out the D1080MkII, they're $125. If you're willing to forfeit a 2.0 system for a 2.1 they have the Swan M10 or M12, both are good for the ~$100 spent on them. You really don't need much else with these either since they're desktop speakers...plug right into an audio jack.
quaere
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(02-06-2010, 05:17 AM)

Originally Posted by Sanjuro Tsubaki

Little meaning maybe $10-15 dollars. I have no audio equipment.

Best bet is probably eBay. Keep an eye out for the $100 MSRP sets, you should be able to snag one used for $50. I'm going to be putting up my Maudio AV30s in the next week or so, and that seems to be the ending range.
Sanjuro
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(02-06-2010, 05:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by giga

Unless you find some miracle at a garage sale, you're not gonna get anything worthwhile to be honest. Basically just logitech pc speakers.

$100 you at least have a few choices.

Well let's say I can gather $100, what am I looking at? Are any b&m?
Luthair
(02-06-2010, 05:23 AM)
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I just wanted to say I got the Sawns M200MKII's and I love these things to death. They sound amazing. I keep digging up my CD's to hear how they sound on it ^_^
nitewulf
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(02-06-2010, 06:24 AM)
well, system updated, finally!

Turntable:







Vacuum Tube Phono Pre-amplifier:





My first set of vinyl:

kevm3
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(02-06-2010, 07:19 AM)
Nice equipment there. How does it all sound? I was thinking about getting some tube eq down the line.
Witchfinder General
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(02-06-2010, 02:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Shawsie64

Picking up a pair of Krix Equinox tomorrow off a mate, should be good

http://www.krix.com.au/Product/Detail.aspx?p=44&id=6


I love the Equinox. My favourite Krix speakers.

Originally Posted by nitewulf

well, system updated, finally!

Turntable:







Vacuum Tube Phono Pre-amplifier:





My first set of vinyl:


Very nice. The record player is so familiar, yet I can't put a name to it. It seems to be using a Rega RB250 arm that's been rewired.
caramac
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(02-06-2010, 03:18 PM)
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l bought a pair of these about one year ago to use for my PC/360/ipod set up



Aktimate Mini
nitewulf
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(02-06-2010, 08:36 PM)

Originally Posted by kevm3

Nice equipment there. How does it all sound? I was thinking about getting some tube eq down the line.

yeah, tube is the way to go. i'll make my analog completely tube down the line. right now my Mac is driving the load, but i'll get a Mac tube amp to power the analog chain in the future.

without using buzzwords and crap, the music is rich and just full. no other way to describe it. there is noise, the pops and cracks...from the used disks. but from the new disks there's barely any noise. the music is just a lot more involving, dare i say "musical". excellent channel separation and resolution. it's live basically.

Originally Posted by Witchfinder General

Very nice. The record player is so familiar, yet I can't put a name to it. It seems to be using a Rega RB250 arm that's been rewired.

you know your stuff. the record player is an Origin Live! Aurora, MK2. and yep, that's a modified Rega RB250, which Origin Live calls OL1, it's structurally upgraded with a metal stub, counterweight and internal and external silver wiring. basically they give you an excellent quality interconnect included with the price of the tonearm.

the pre-amplifier is an Eastern Electric Minimax, which comes highly regarded from pretty much everyone familiar with it. it was going to be either this or the EAR 834P. the cartridge is a Shure 97xe (only $70!) which i'll upgrade down the line.
Winged Creature
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(02-07-2010, 04:19 AM)
Great setup, how do u find the shure? I didnt like the shure at all in my experience but it may work well with your table.
Witchfinder General
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(02-07-2010, 05:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by nitewulf

yeah, tube is the way to go. i'll make my analog completely tube down the line. right now my Mac is driving the load, but i'll get a Mac tube amp to power the analog chain in the future.

without using buzzwords and crap, the music is rich and just full. no other way to describe it. there is noise, the pops and cracks...from the used disks. but from the new disks there's barely any noise. the music is just a lot more involving, dare i say "musical". excellent channel separation and resolution. it's live basically.


you know your stuff. the record player is an Origin Live! Aurora, MK2. and yep, that's a modified Rega RB250, which Origin Live calls OL1, it's structurally upgraded with a metal stub, counterweight and internal and external silver wiring. basically they give you an excellent quality interconnect included with the price of the tonearm.

the pre-amplifier is an Eastern Electric Minimax, which comes highly regarded from pretty much everyone familiar with it. it was going to be either this or the EAR 834P. the cartridge is a Shure 97xe (only $70!) which i'll upgrade down the line.


Sweet, it must sound lovely. Once you go tube you don't go back.
nitewulf
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(02-11-2010, 03:26 AM)

Originally Posted by Winged Creature

Great setup, how do u find the shure? I didnt like the shure at all in my experience but it may work well with your table.

Honestly, I don't have a reference point. And I doubt it broke in yet, I must be playing my turntable for about 10 hours, but I can't stop listening to records. Whenever I have some free time I'm putting something on. The cartridge sounds really good to me, it's not the last word on revealing, but it sure is lively.

What did you find wrong with it?
Witchfinder General
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(02-11-2010, 03:31 AM)
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nitewulf, when you upgrade your cartridge I'd suggest going for either an Ortofon or a Lyra MC cartridge. Either something like the Ortofon Kontrapunkt A or a Lyra Dorian.
Winged Creature
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(02-11-2010, 03:35 AM)

Originally Posted by nitewulf

Honestly, I don't have a reference point. And I doubt it broke in yet, I must be playing my turntable for about 10 hours, but I can't stop listening to records. Whenever I have some free time I'm putting something on. The cartridge sounds really good to me, it's not the last word on revealing, but it sure is lively.

What did you find wrong with it?


too boring, compared to alot of other cartridges ive heard. It just didnt work for me. Btw i thought you were gonna go with the pro-ject RPM 9.1, why the sudden change?
nitewulf
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(02-12-2010, 05:45 AM)

Originally Posted by Winged Creature

Btw i thought you were gonna go with the pro-ject RPM 9.1, why the sudden change?

Well it was not very easy to audition turntables, and I was curious about Origin Live tables as from reviews, they seemed to be the type of sound I was looking for. So I called one of the few dealers here and I got a really good deal from him. Plus he was just all around very knowledgeable and cool to talk to. ie, he spent a whole lot of his time just explaining a lot of stuff when he heard this was going to be my first analog setup. He also recommended the pre-amplifiers, mostly telling me to look for the stuff second hand as new ones are just too pricey. Basically he wasn't trying to push any products on me, he was totally non-obnoxious like the usual hi-fi sales people, and he took a long time to go over the synergies of various setups. I had a good feeling from the conversations we had and went for the Origin Live setup he recommended, and bought the cartridge and the phono stage else where.
Dice
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(02-13-2010, 02:47 AM)
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Just ordered a pair of Swan M200MkIII... Oh gracious I'm not sure I'm ready for such quality...

Also, broke for a month confirmed. :lol
Dice
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(03-11-2010, 12:28 AM)
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OMG THEY ARE AMAZING!!!
Alucrid
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(03-11-2010, 12:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dice

OMG THEY ARE AMAZING!!!

Damn. If I ever wake up and have a spare $400 lying around, they're mine. MINE! My M10s aren't even a year old though so I doubt that'll happen soon.
Dice
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(03-11-2010, 12:57 AM)
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I don't know how to properly describe the quality. It's like there aren't even speakers there. The sound just exists.
Cereal KiIIer
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(03-11-2010, 01:03 AM)
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This is my pc setup:


Onkyo TX-8555 stereo


Paradigm Atom Monitor
Xun
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(03-11-2010, 01:07 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dice

I don't know how to properly describe the quality. It's like there aren't even speakers there. The sound just exists.

I felt the same way with my Grado SR60i's.

I really must get some Audiophile speakers sometime.
Alucrid
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(03-11-2010, 01:32 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dice

I don't know how to properly describe the quality. It's like there aren't even speakers there. The sound just exists.

...I'm probably gonna cave soon now. :lol
Feel the Swift
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(03-11-2010, 01:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by zhenming

If youre on a $100 budget get these.... SOOO GOODDD!!!!.gif



-sound is good
-look is good
-price is good
-goods made in china

Is that your command center? It's pretty much amazing.
Winged Creature
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(03-11-2010, 02:14 AM)

Originally Posted by Dice

I don't know how to properly describe the quality. It's like there aren't even speakers there. The sound just exists.

wait till you hear a real hi-fi setup ;)
Blackheim
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(03-13-2010, 10:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dice

Just ordered a pair of Swan M200MkIII...l

Just did this, hopefully they won't take too long to get here via FedEx. There aren't many reviews out there on these, but those that are make them sound pretty great and so I decided to give them a shot. That $400 is still exceedingly painful though :/
Dice
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(03-13-2010, 10:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by Blackheim

Just did this, hopefully they won't take too long to get here via FedEx. There aren't many reviews out there on these, but those that are make them sound pretty great and so I decided to give them a shot. That $400 is still exceedingly painful though :/

For me it's like this: Money comes and goes. If I didn't spend it here, where would it have gone? Food? Games? Clothes? If I'm spending it, that means I could. Maybe I sacrificed on some other unnecessary expense (for me, buying any "stuff" at all or going out to eat for a month), but I still could. So 4 months down the road I won't be missing that money because it'd be gone anyway, but I'll be jammin out to sweet speakers. It was the same way when I got my Canada Goose coat, and I wasn't ever cold all winter. I don't recommend going into debt for anything, but sacrificing some comforts to save up? Sure, if you want it and it's something totally sweet.

Oh and FedEx was right on with their scheduled delivery date for me.
Blackheim
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(03-13-2010, 10:23 PM)
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Oh yea, I know. My disposable income generally goes to music CDs anyway and I make sure to budget well enough. I certainly won't go into debt by ordering these so I'm not stressed about that. It's just ... $400 all at once, ouch hah.

I've had some not-so-awesome Bose speakers I was given for x-mas a few years back and, ugh. I was tired of them. The MKIIIs should be a slight improvement :P

Thanks for letting me know about the FedEx date :)
kevm3
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(03-13-2010, 10:32 PM)
I would say speakers are more well than worth the price even at $400. I spent over a grand for mine, which I'm still paying off :(. Ouchhh... But I don't regret buying a good pair of speakers one bit and I don't think you will either. Nothing like listening to sweet, sweeet music in high quality.
Dice
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(03-13-2010, 10:36 PM)
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I'm listening to Beach House now, it's very nice. Had to rearrange the room a bit so I could have the speakers at the right height and distance apart with something solid underneath them, but now that it's right it is sooo good.
Blackheim
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(03-13-2010, 10:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by kevm3

I would say speakers are more well than worth the price even at $400. I spent over a grand for mine, which I'm still paying off :(. Ouchhh... But I don't regret buying a good pair of speakers one bit and I don't think you will either. Nothing like listening to sweet, sweeet music in high quality.

Man, there's no way I could spend $1k on speakers with my crappy job. If I could afford something like that, I would certainly do it. I wouldn't go completely overboard though like some seem to do though. I imagine that once I get them hooked up and listen to them, I'll feel a lot better about my purchase :)


I listen to a lot of different music from Death Metal, classic rock, oldies, 80's to Jpop and stuff in between. It will be interesting to hear how these speakers will handle all of it. I hope they will represent everything pretty good. Well, I can't imagine that these Bose will handle any of that music better than the MKIIIs.
Alucrid
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(03-13-2010, 10:46 PM)
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Please stop talking about Swan M200 MKIII's you're making me want to buy them even more.
Blackheim
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(03-13-2010, 10:52 PM)
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I'll be sure not to post my impressions once I get them >.> *stops talking about them* <.<
Dice
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(03-13-2010, 11:12 PM)
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Blackheim I recommend getting Ladyhawke's self-titled debut album to listen to on them.

Alucrid I wish I had heard M10s before to know if you shouldn't be wiggin out so much.
Blackheim
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(03-13-2010, 11:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dice

Blackheim I recommend getting Ladyhawke's self-titled debut album to listen to on them.

Alucrid I wish I had heard M10s before to know if you shouldn't be wiggin out so much.

Thank you, I found them on YT and will give them a shot.

The M10/M12's are 2.1 so at the least they more than likely have better bass response/range/sound.
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(03-13-2010, 11:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by Alucrid

Damn. If I ever wake up and have a spare $400 lying around, they're mine. MINE! My M10s aren't even a year old though so I doubt that'll happen soon.

I loved my M10s but when someone asked me if I would part with them, I ended up upgrading to the Swan D1080MkII (I got a great deal on them). I hear the Swan M200MkII is even better than my speakers and much worth the money. Not sure about the MkIIIs.
Timbuktu
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(03-13-2010, 11:54 PM)
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Any word on the Bowers & Wilkins MM-1 Speakers?

They are as what the thread title describes, at least that's how they're being marketed. but haven't heard anything about them since the announcement last year.
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(03-13-2010, 11:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dice

Blackheim I recommend getting Ladyhawke's self-titled debut album to listen to on them.

Alucrid I wish I had heard M10s before to know if you shouldn't be wiggin out so much.

I have the album on vinyl, it's great. Also, I'm just a crazy semi-audiophile. :lol I should be getting them withing 1~2 weeks or so though.

Originally Posted by Geneijin

I loved my M10s but when someone asked me if I would part with them, I ended up upgrading to the Swan D1080MkII (I got a great deal on them). I hear the Swan M200MkII is even better than my speakers and much worth the money. Not sure about the MkIIIs.

M200MKIIIs are just a step up from the M200MKIIs.
Dice
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(03-14-2010, 12:18 AM)
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New features in order of importance:

-Nearly double the power for DAT BOOM with clarity
-Biamplification for clean separation of ranges
-New woofer to better handle the new power and clarity of the bass (it works like woah)
-Active equalization = Whipped cream
-Wood paneling = Cherry on top
Geneijin
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(03-14-2010, 12:51 AM)
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Originally Posted by Alucrid

M200MKIIIs are just a step up from the M200MKIIs.

If it's the same difference between the two D1080MkII models, then good luck saving up if you're considering the M200MkIII.

I don't see myself spending $400 on speakers (yet), but if it weren't for my budget and deals I've gotten, I would have gotten the M200MkII easily.
Winged Creature
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(03-15-2010, 12:44 AM)

Originally Posted by Timbuktu

Any word on the Bowers & Wilkins MM-1 Speakers?

They are as what the thread title describes, at least that's how they're being marketed. but haven't heard anything about them since the announcement last year.

there not gonna be like the hi-fi speakers that B&W makes
Timbuktu
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(03-15-2010, 12:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by Winged Creature

there not gonna be like the hi-fi speakers that B&W makes

did some searching and found them on Apple store link

I don't really expect them to sound like the 600s in the living room, but I do expect them to be the best for their class and size. At 399, I guess it will sound the same as the Zeppelin... but they're small enough to fit in the study.
dr3upmushroom
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(03-18-2010, 02:15 AM)
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I'm looking at getting a pair of m200mkiii's to use with my PC and PS3 and I'm not sure how exactly people connect them to stuff. Since they're self-powered, so you still need an amp? Can you get away with just getting a cheap one since you don't need it to power the speakers? My PC only has a VGA and a DVI connection, so what I'd like to do is connect the PC and PS3 to a receiver through HDMI and then send the video to my monitor with an HDMI/ DVI adapter. If I understand correctly there shouldn't be any drop in image quality since it's a digital signal.

The problem is I can't find a stereo receiver that has HDMI in or out. I could get a 5.1 or 7.1 receiver but I hate to pay for something I'm not going to use, especcially when it seems like I don't need an amp in the first place since the speakers are self-powered. How do people usually connect stuff to the Swans? Is there some kind of pre-amp or something I could use that would just process the video and send the sound to the speakers? I guess I don't really need video processing, I could just get video to the monitor through VGA for the PC and an HDMI/ DVI adapter for the PS3 like I'm doing now and send sound to a receiver through optical out of the PS3 and sound card, but I'd like to have a digital signal for everything.
Dice
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(03-18-2010, 03:32 AM)
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The speakers have one pair of standard L/R analog inputs. If you want to connect multiple things to them, you'll need something that will take several inputs and then send one output to the speakers. DVI will not transmit sound by itself or with a DVI to HDMI adapter, it has to be HDMI all the way through.

Right now I have DVI from my PC and HDMI from my PS3 plugged into my monitor, which has a headphone jack out. If I want sound from my PC I plug the speakers into my PC out, and if I want it from my PS3 I plug them into my monitor out. However, I'm building a studio here so I'm getting an M-Audio Fast Track Ultra to be able to take all sorts of sound in and then have outs to my speakers as well as my Senns (which will probably later be Grados)

For just a simple setup like yours, I'm not sure what I'd go for. You would need some sort of receiver to properly join two input channels into a single out without screwing them up, but most options I know would be somewhat irritatingly expensive for someone who doesn't want to do anything more than that.

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