Demon's Souls | Official Thread - Soulsuckingly brilliant RPG full of Demon's Crack

INDIGO_CYCLOPS · 04:42 AM

dfyb · (01-29-2009, 07:18 PM)

apparently mainichi isshyo has the trophies locked for american accounts -- is it the same for game imports? or would i be able to earn trophies on my american account?

Kagari · (01-29-2009, 07:18 PM)

Great thread

Originally Posted by dfyb:

apparently mainichi isshyo has the trophies locked for american accounts -- is it the same for game imports? or would i be able to earn trophies on my american account?

No it doesn't. And yes you can get Japanese game trophies on your US account. I have them for both Mainichi Issho and White Knight Chronicles.

cruets · (01-29-2009, 07:23 PM)

can my chracter be a chick? is their loot in this game?

INDIGO_CYCLOPS · (01-29-2009, 07:29 PM)

Got the majority of content I could muster up in an hour. This is my first official thread so go easy on me. Suggestions, new information, etc -- fire them my way so I can update. I will be doing some visual revamp later in the evening once I return from work. Until then, enjoy!

Originally Posted by cruets:

can my chracter be a chick? is their loot in this game?

Yes and yes.

DMPrince · (01-29-2009, 07:30 PM)

who's importing?

Bootaaay · (01-29-2009, 07:35 PM)

Can't wait for this one, got it pre-ordered from YesAsia for a while now as it sounds right up my alley and the difficulty won't be much of a turn-off if the games as deep in terms of combat, leveling & loot as the translated review quotes made it sound. Hopefully the online play turns out to be quite robust, I could see myself spending alot of time in co-op.

INDIGO_CYCLOPS · 07:47 PM

I'm looking for the post that explains the menu items listed on the SCEJ website. Was it in this thread? It was quite extensive and I'd like to add that to the thread!

EDIT: Found it.

Originally Posted by Kagari:

Great thread

No it doesn't. And yes you can get Japanese game trophies on your US account. I have them for both Mainichi Issho and White Knight Chronicles.

Thank you :)

That's good to know, to tell you the truth I didn't even think about the possibility of them being locked.

JudgeN · (01-29-2009, 07:54 PM)

Did the Dengeki review say anything about the frame rate? Fuck ill import it anyway, good frame rate or not.

Kyoufu · (01-29-2009, 07:56 PM)

Looking forward to impressions, but I must admit I'm not very hopeful for this being any good.

ChoklitReign · (01-29-2009, 07:56 PM)

Why did Famitsu not like it as much? Too macho American for their tastes? This could be the first Atlus title that intrigues me.

Cat in the Hat · (01-29-2009, 07:57 PM)

Does anyone know how the loot is handled? Is Morrowindish where what they wear is what they drop or is more random like diablo?

2real4tv · (01-29-2009, 07:57 PM)

Originally Posted by DMPrince:

who's importing?

Iam thinking about it but I need to see reviews

Cat in the Hat · (01-29-2009, 07:58 PM)

Originally Posted by ChoklitReign:

Why did Famitsu not like it as much? Too macho American for their tastes? This could be the first Atlus title that intrigues me.

From software

Kyoufu · (01-29-2009, 07:59 PM)

Originally Posted by ChoklitReign:

Why did Famitsu not like it as much? Too macho American for their tastes? This could be the first Atlus title that intrigues me.

Who cares about Famitsu? Its by From Software btw. :p

dallow_bg · (01-29-2009, 08:03 PM)

I want to import but it's so expensive with all the games I've gotten recently!
Thinking about it, thinking about it.....

Originally Posted by Kagari:

No it doesn't. And yes you can get Japanese game trophies on your US account. I have them for both Mainichi Issho and White Knight Chronicles.

Well, Mainichi did lock the trophies from US accounts in an update so it's a fair question.

Witchfinder General · (01-29-2009, 09:04 PM)

Can you quicksave anywhere in this game ala Oblivion? I don't mind the game being brutally hard provided I don't have to redo a gruelling section of a dungeon on account that my last save was hours ago.

cruets · (01-29-2009, 09:15 PM)

does anyone know how the online works?

Durante · (01-29-2009, 11:11 PM)

I'll probably import as soon as we get confirmation that the Asian version has complete English text. Looking forward to impressions.

Lonesome_Raod · (01-29-2009, 11:14 PM)

Originally Posted by Durante:

I'll probably import as soon as we get confirmation that the Asian version has complete English text. Looking forward to impressions.

Pretty much this. Looks great.

antiloop · (01-29-2009, 11:14 PM)

This is pretty much what I expected from Oblivion in terms of looks.

BruceLeeRoy · (01-29-2009, 11:33 PM)

Fu@# KZ2 once that reviewer said this was a next-gen Kings Field I about passed out.
First game I will import in almost a decade.

Originally Posted by DMPrince:

who's importing?

Once I find out there is english txt I am picking it up.

AgentOtaku · (01-29-2009, 11:41 PM)

Can't wait for some hardcore dark medievel fantasy splendor!

Originally Posted by JudgeN:

Did the Dengeki review say anything about the frame rate? Fuck ill import it anyway, good frame rate or not.

That last official trailer they put out led me to believe the framerate issues had been addressed...

BruceLeeRoy · (01-29-2009, 11:44 PM)

Originally Posted by AgentOtaku:

Can't wait for some hardcore dark medievel fantasy splendor!

Me either man. The Kings Field series are so damn atmospheric the ultimate game to play on a snow day or
completely by yourself. Its been so long since I have let a game envelope me like that but this little bastard
looks like its finally ready to take up the mantle.

AgentOtaku · (01-29-2009, 11:49 PM)

Originally Posted by BruceLeeRoy:

Me either man. The Kings Field series are so damn atmospheric the ultimate game to play on a snow day or
completely by yourself. Its been so long since I have let a game envelope me like that but this little bastard
looks like its finally ready to take up the mantle.

Werd

Can't believe how long it's feel like it's been since we had such a straight up traditional game like this (that wasn't on PC)....hell it's almost got a Diablo-esque vibe to it's tone. At least I think it does

Troidal · (01-29-2009, 11:53 PM)

Oh snap, I didn't realize this was a spiritual successor to King's Field!!!!

Should I pick it up, should I not....decisions, decisions.

BruceLeeRoy · (01-29-2009, 11:53 PM)

Yeah I am definitely getting a Diablo vibe which couldn't make me more excited.
Been way to long.

icecream · (01-30-2009, 12:00 AM)

Definitely excited to hear impressions about this game. The emphasis on difficulty and trial is a bit offputting, but if it works I have no qualms about putting aside the time.

Commanche Raisin Toast · (01-30-2009, 12:13 AM)

Originally Posted by antiloop:

This is pretty much what I expected from Oblivion in terms of looks.

yeah. i think it looks fantastic, and i wish oblivion's engine was up to par with this, but im just concerned about gameplay. everyone keeps saying 'kings field' when i ask what the gameplay is like, but nobody can seem to give me a straight rundown of what gameplay is like. i've looked up kings field videos and can't seem to find anything other than trailers with no gameplay, and first-person oblivion style sword swinging every now and then. no inventory system, no loot, no character, nothing.

ex: baulder's gate: dark alliance
-character has levels gained through xp
-each level you can add abilities or stats with points
-set up your character's equipment via an inventory system
-beat up and cast spells on enemies
-they drop loot
-pick it up
-sell some of it in town or use it
-you can buy stuff in towns
-rinse repeat

Mejilan · (01-30-2009, 12:18 AM)

Any chance of this coming out here?

AgentOtaku · (01-30-2009, 12:23 AM)

Originally Posted by Mejilan:

Any chance of this coming out here?

Most From Software seems to make out here no?

klee123 · (01-30-2009, 12:25 AM)

Can't wait. King's field successor here I come!

Waiting for confirmation that the Asian version is English before I bite tho. Usually I don't mind if it's Japanese, but if the option for English language is there, I'll take that instead.

icecream · (01-30-2009, 12:25 AM)

Pics of the Character Creation:

BudokaiMR2 · (01-30-2009, 01:07 AM)

I played it at TGS and thought it showed promise although it was rough around the edges.

Now that have read about the online side of things... O.O

I might just sell shitty WKS and pick this up.

birdchili · 01:46 AM

Originally Posted by Commanche Raisin Toast:

im just concerned about gameplay. everyone keeps saying 'kings field' when i ask what the gameplay is like

king's field gameplay is centered around slow exploration, first-person sword/weapon swinging, and magic attacks. there's leveling, which affects stats/hp, but you don't customize your stats. character customization is mainly through equipped weapon/spell selection and armor/accessories.

weapons all have varying speeds, ranges, swing/stab trajectories and and recovery times - you need to maneuver in the environment and time/space your attacks to strike enemies (hitting being purely based on spacing and aim - not stats). aiding you in this is magic, which is often able to stun enemies for a moment allowing for hits without leaving yourself open to counterattack. both magic and bows provide ranged attacks.

everything is very slow and deliberate - "running" speed is slower than walking speed in most games. combat is about planning and knowing how often and where your opponents attack, as well as being in range and aimed correctly to hit them during openings. the dungeon is full of secret areas, traps, and other environmental hazards that need to be avoided/dealt with. loot is mostly unique and placed in guarded/hidden areas. monsters drop only gold (if that), though some occasionally drop other stuff (arrows, etc...)

the feeling of being in a dangerous, forgotten, ancient place is really well done.

Lion Heart · (01-30-2009, 01:20 AM)

I'd really like to pick the Asian version up but I blew all my money on Speakers and Killzone 2 preorder. That Famitsu score isnt too hot though, I guess i'll wait for an NA release w/ reviews.

INDIGO_CYCLOPS · (01-30-2009, 05:20 AM)

Originally Posted by klee123:

Can't wait. King's field successor here I come!

Waiting for confirmation that the Asian version is English before I bite tho. Usually I don't mind if it's Japanese, but if the option for English language is there, I'll take that instead.

There hasn't been 100% confirmation of how the language is setup. I did email Play-asia and they responded with a "we're pretty sure it's subtitled in English but we're not 100% because it's not out yet." It's been mentioned that menus/text/subtitles are available in English in the Asian version, but for those who are going to wait for an official word I'll be sure to update as soon as I get my copy.

cartman414 · (01-30-2009, 05:24 AM)

Wow. So what's the story behind the D rating?

biocat · (01-30-2009, 05:27 AM)

I just took a peak at the Dengeki review today.

One of the reviewers said it's the best game this year! I guess some people like it.

INDIGO_CYCLOPS · (01-30-2009, 05:28 AM)

Originally Posted by cartman414:

Wow. So what's the story behind the D rating?

I would assume some mature content. The game seems to be very dark in atmosphere and plot. Violence, etc...I believe the D rating is just like the ESRB Mature...

Troidal · (01-30-2009, 05:54 AM)

Originally Posted by cartman414:

Wow. So what's the story behind the D rating?

CERO D rating?

If so, that's not too bad I'd imagine since Z rating is Mature in ESRB.

INDIGO_CYCLOPS · (01-30-2009, 05:55 AM)

Originally Posted by Troidal:

CERO D rating?

If so, that's not too bad I'd imagine since Z rating is Mature in ESRB.

Isn't CERO D 17+? I think CERO D and Z are somewhat interchangeable depending on the content...

chaostrophy · (01-30-2009, 06:33 AM)

Originally Posted by birdchili:

king's field gameplay is centered around slow exploration, first-person sword/weapon swinging, and magic attacks. there's leveling, which affects stats/hp, but you don't customize your stats. character customization is mainly through equipped weapon/spell selection and armor/accessories.

weapons all have varying speeds, ranges, swing/stab trajectories and and recovery times - you need to maneuver in the environment and time/space your attacks to strike enemies (hitting being purely based on spacing and aim - not stats). aiding you in this is magic, which is often able to stun enemies for a moment allowing for hits without leaving yourself open to counterattack. both magic and bows provide ranged attacks.

everything is very slow and deliberate - "running" speed is slower than walking speed in most games. combat is about planning and knowing how often and where your opponents attack, as well as being in range and aimed correctly to hit them during openings. the dungeon is full of secret areas, traps, and other environmental hazards that need to be avoided/dealt with. loot is mostly unique and placed in guarded/hidden areas. monsters drop only gold (if that), though some occasionally drop other stuff (arrows, etc...)

the feeling of being in a dangerous, forgotten, ancient place is really well done.

Good info. Other elements of the King's Field experience that I find significant:

No conventional towns: buying and selling items is done with lone merchants spread across the game's world, and "inn"-type full healing is only available at special locations that are few and far between.

Consequently, NPC interaction is minimal, and the protagonists are mute.

Their game worlds generally have a very small scope- they aren't continent- or world-spanning adventures. But that doesn't mean the games themselves are small, they actually have a vast, epic feel because the locations are very well fleshed-out and everything is to proper scale. There are no shifts in perspective to overworld maps, or abrupt transitions between levels, everything is seamless, and designed to feel immersive, and like a place that could actually exist. Sort of like Half-Life (except KF predates it by years and actually has more compelling level design, but never got mass critical acclaim because of this quality).

WYWY · (01-30-2009, 06:52 AM)

Originally Posted by biocat:

I just took a peak at the Dengeki review today.

MORE DETAILS! (DPS reviews can be a bit more 'wordy' compared to other JP mags.)

WYWY · (01-30-2009, 07:01 AM)

Originally Posted by INDIGO_CYCLOPS:

Isn't CERO D 17+? I think CERO D and Z are somewhat interchangeable depending on the content...

'Z' is reserved for the eroge with graphical sex and nude illustrations ... and animations.

'D' is usually for graphical violence. MGS4 is also 'D'.

cruets · (01-30-2009, 08:03 AM)

found these pics of what i believe is the asian version menu. oh man kingsfield was my first rpg on ps1 back in the day. if this is truely a kings field successor...day 1

WYWY · (01-30-2009, 08:56 AM)

Official site was just updated today. Link in the first post.

Added all remaining character classes, weapons, NPCs and more demon bosses. A few more area screenshots.

Network play - well it didn't really clarify any more about the previous issues raised, just added two more network mode explanations:

"Soul Direction"
The actions of all logged-on players affect the gameworld. Absolutely no explanation about how this system works. Depending on the actions of all the players, the monster population, items type and distribution, strength of phantoms, etc. will change in different areas. An inaccessible area may suddenly become accessible, with a ladder appearing, etc. (See screenshots on site).

Network Invasion - PVP!
To start, no there is no info as to whether this can be 'switched off' if you login. Also no info how another player is selected, etc.... All it says is that if a player has a specific "black stone" special item and perishes, he can invade the gameworld of another player as a "black phantom". Win and he gets resurrected. Lose and he loses "soul level". The "black phantom" form will be of a higher level than the deceased player is currently at.

ItAintEasyBeinCheesy · (01-30-2009, 09:04 AM)

Originally Posted by icecream:

Pics of the Character Creation:

Jeez, put a helm on it and maybe............

dfyb · (01-30-2009, 09:11 AM)

the online modes sound really cool

icecream · (01-30-2009, 09:22 AM)

Originally Posted by WYWY:

'Z' is reserved for the eroge with graphical sex and nude illustrations ... and animations.

If it's an eroge, it's PC and gets an EOCS 18+ seal, not a CERO one.

Recent games with CERO Z ratings are typically graphically violent ones, such as Gears of War, GTA4, Ninja Gaiden 2, Dead Rising, and the like.