Planned Collapse 2009?

waynej506 · (02-07-2009, 04:59 PM)

On March 23, 2008, for only the sixth time in the history of the United States, the U.S. House of Representatives held a closed door meeting:

http://dprogram.net/2008/05/28/secre...epresentatives

Many around the internet speculated as to what was discussed in the meeting:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1994684/posts
(Just google "Secret closed door meeting march 2008" for more finds...)

Amazingly point 1 turned out to be fairly accurate. Lehman Brothers filed bankruptcy on September 15, the largest bankruptcy filing in U.S. history. On that very day, the Dow ended -504.48, the biggest drop since 9/11. Following soon after, the market began its rapid deceleration.

Interestingly, the September 15 date was mentioned as a date worth note by Reinhardt, a poster on Google Finance, back in July 2008.

http://finance.google.com/group/goog...d550b590f931bf

If you read his other posts in that thread, although he seems to ramble, he gives clues as to why he believed September 15 was such a major day. He also has a website:

http://www.enterprisecorruption.com/

His predictions seem to follow the meetings of a Catholic organization of financial elites. Legatus, as the organization is called, is holding a meeting in Bermuda, the dates being February 5-7.

Legatus website: http://legatus.org/public/index.asp

Recently, on Reinhardt's website, he was counting down to February 9, 2009, as the next major date. He also stated that the "period" would last from 2/9 and commence on 2/13. Now his website just says, "I told you so!", along with a "6 for 6".
Well, it looks like the stimulus plan will be voted on 2/9 Monday and Obama is holding a major press conference that day as well...

Here's some additional videos of a guy summarizing what I just posted:
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8EHcHjsZMk
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Il1_A77OAIQ

SpeedingUptoStop · (02-07-2009, 05:00 PM)

Yep, you sold me.

demon · (02-07-2009, 05:01 PM)

Eric WK · (02-07-2009, 05:04 PM)

*conspiracy comment*

The guy who made these YouTube videos is incredibly engaging and interesting to hear, though.

Easytoremember · (02-07-2009, 05:04 PM)

Zaraki_Kenpachi · (02-07-2009, 05:05 PM)

Out of curiosity since this means the end of the world, what were the other 5 meetings about? Did we face disasters every time after that?

waynej506 · (02-07-2009, 05:20 PM)

Originally Posted by Zaraki_Kenpachi:

Out of curiosity since this means the end of the world, what were the other 5 meetings about? Did we face disasters every time after that?

yup

funkmastergeneral · (02-07-2009, 05:22 PM)

Sounds like a Manabyte thread

deadbeef · (02-07-2009, 05:28 PM)

Is this an ARG? I love those things!

Hootie · (02-07-2009, 05:31 PM)

Eric WK · (02-07-2009, 05:32 PM)

Watched the videos and checked some of the sources. There's no question; his predictions were dead on.

If we're to believe his next prediction to be accurate, expect a drastic hit to the economy (most likely a devaluing of the dollar) on Monday leading to panic and a full-on market collapse on Friday.

*shrug* I guess this is more interesting than most of this bullshit, because we'll find out in two days.

wenis · (02-07-2009, 05:33 PM)

hmmmm I like the way you think. Do you have a newsletter I can perchance sign up for?

Sapiens · (02-07-2009, 05:33 PM)

Originally Posted by SpeedingUptoStop:

Yep, you sold me.

SomeDude · (02-07-2009, 05:53 PM)

Holy shit guys, he was right about his past predictions.

Cooter · (02-07-2009, 06:09 PM)

Interesting. We'll find out soon enough.

BrightYoungThing · (02-07-2009, 06:29 PM)

People believe this shit?

ice cream · (02-07-2009, 06:29 PM)

Sounds interesting, but I'm wondering, why would they plan all this if it was going to put the country in a crisis?

Quote:

3. the possibility of Civil War inside the USA as a result of the collapse,

4. advance round-ups of "insurgent U.S. citizens" likely to move against the government,

5. the detention of those rounded-up at "REX 84" camps constructed throughout the USA,

6. the possibility of retaliation against members of Congress for the collapses,

7. the location of "safe facilities" for members of Congress and their families to reside during expected massive civil unrest,

Why would they suffer through all of this? Is it for the Amero..?

Hmm they mentioned the Amero in Zeitgeist.

KibblesBits · (02-07-2009, 06:34 PM)

so many money problems, it really is the root of all evil.

Fireblend · (02-07-2009, 06:40 PM)

Originally Posted by ice cream:

Sounds interesting, but I'm wondering, why would they plan all this if it was going to put the country in a crisis?

Why would they suffer through all of this? Is it for the Amero..?

Hmm they mentioned the Amero in Zeitgeist.

People, Zeitgeist is *not* a reliable source of information. In any case, my policy of not believing conspiracy theories stands, as likely as the collapse of the dollar seems right now.

waynej506 · (02-07-2009, 06:43 PM)

Originally Posted by BrightYoungThing:

People believe this shit?

Yup, why don't you. The dude proved his accuracy, i believe with his spot on sept 15th prediction... So how do you explain that

Tobor · (02-07-2009, 06:45 PM)

Originally Posted by waynej506:

Yup, why don't you. The dude proved his accuracy, i believe with his spot on sept 15th prediction... So how do you explain that

A stopped clock is right twice a day.

Kusagari · (02-07-2009, 06:46 PM)

The fact that he's actually been right so far at least makes this sort of interesting. We'll see what happens on the 9th.

Karakand · (02-07-2009, 06:48 PM)

what about all his inaccurate predictions

i bet THOSE aren't up on his site

The Lamonster · (02-07-2009, 06:49 PM)

http://www.enterprisecorruption.com/

Went to the website. Good job, guy. It's fucking empty.

Way to convince people of your theories!

waynej506 · (02-07-2009, 06:51 PM)

Originally Posted by Tobor:

A stopped clock is right twice a day.

Yeah a day has 24 hours, this dude pinpointed the exact day months prior, i think the chances favor the clock. You see how him hitting the right date is much more impressive then that clock hitting the right time twice a day?

TheOMan · (02-07-2009, 06:51 PM)

Originally Posted by KibblesBits:

so many money problems, it really is the root of all evil.

The *LOVE* of money is the root of all *KINDS* of evil.

Money itself is not inherently evil.

Cyan · (02-07-2009, 06:52 PM)

Originally Posted by Karakand:

what about all his inaccurate predictions

i bet THOSE aren't up on his site

*Ding ding ding*

Stay in school, kids.

waynej506 · (02-07-2009, 06:52 PM)

Originally Posted by The Lamonster:

http://www.enterprisecorruption.com/

Went to the website. Good job, guy. It's fucking empty.

Way to convince people of your theories!

Umm yea he took everything off of his website, watch the video it explains it there.

Eric WK · (02-07-2009, 06:53 PM)

Originally Posted by ice cream:

Sounds interesting, but I'm wondering, why would they plan all this if it was going to put the country in a crisis?

Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul (perhaps some others) refused to attend the secret session of Congress. In an interview with Democracy Now! ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgnbFCbnB24 ), Kucinich talked about how these things go down. The entire place and every member of Congress are swept for bugs or wires; absolutely no information is supposed to leave. He goes on to say that he won't attend any secret meeting because what happens is that Congress-members are lied to and fed propoganda under the pretext of a national security secret. I guess that last bit is one answer to your question.

If the leaks are to be believed, they originated from members who were so outraged and afraid by what took place that they felt compelled to anonymously leak the information to independent news organizations. The mainstream media wouldn't talk about it and the information finally came from a media outlet in Australia.

There are some interesting C-SPAN clips from the debate prior to the meeting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1byeC0h1Tyk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jih11oJdDHs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQtINJdqXW8

Two clips from a radio show discussing the purported contents of the secret meeting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiFlouOozpk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-JF6wZC6v0

I'm really not sure what to make of all this, but clearly the first bullet point in that list has come true and we're on the cusp of the second. I'm certainly not one to trumpet conspiracy theories (far from it), but to dismiss this amid everything that's been said and has happened is just as silly.

Javaman · (02-07-2009, 07:01 PM)

The thought that over 400 ELECTED officials would keep this completely in the secret without any major leaks and them all being for it is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard in my life. Rumors from Australia don't count.

PoliceCop · (02-07-2009, 07:02 PM)

The stimulus bill will likely pass on Monday, the 9th.

BrightYoungThing · (02-07-2009, 07:03 PM)

Originally Posted by waynej506:

Yup, why don't you. The dude proved his accuracy, i believe with his spot on sept 15th prediction... So how do you explain that

You're right you're right. Nostradamus predicted September 11 and the assassination of JFK too, why don't we consult him on this matter?

Or better yet, why not just call up Tupac and Elvis to hear their thoughts, seeing as they're still alive, right. I mean come on, Tupac did predict he would be in the hospital for seven days with his last album. How do you explain that?

waynej506 · (02-07-2009, 07:06 PM)

Originally Posted by BrightYoungThing:

You're right you're right. Nostradamus predicted September 11 and the assassination of JFK too, why don't we consult him on this matter?

Or better yet, why not just call up Tupac and Elvis to hear their thoughts, seeing as they're still alive, right. I mean come on, Tupac did predict he would be in the hospital for seven days with his last album. How do you explain that?

I fail to see what Tupac, or Elvis, have to do with any of this, Maybe Nostradamus, but but oh wait oh wait there it is... nope i lost it. Why don't you tell me what your getting at?

The Lamonster · (02-07-2009, 07:07 PM)

Originally Posted by PoliceCop:

The stimulus bill will likely pass on Monday, the 9th.

BUT WHAT IF IT FAILS?????

THEN WHO WAS PHONE!!?!?!?!

Seth C · (02-07-2009, 07:17 PM)

What is Obama's primetime address supposed to be about Monday night?

cubanb · (02-07-2009, 07:21 PM)

How Long Does weed stay in your system?

Originally Posted by waynej506:

The reason i'm asking is because i smoked two weeks ago, and now i have to take an unexpected drug test. I only smoke occasionally maybe once every two months. Haha im freaking out here!

Apparently it is still in your system.

B.K. · (02-07-2009, 07:22 PM)

Originally Posted by Seth C:

What is Obama's primetime address supposed to be about Monday night?

He's going to be on during primetime? He better not be on during 24's time. >:(

Eric WK · (02-07-2009, 07:29 PM)

Originally Posted by Seth C:

What is Obama's primetime address supposed to be about Monday night?

As far as I know, he's just going to be fielding questions from reporters.

KibblesBits · (02-07-2009, 07:31 PM)

honestly, most of the "bullet points" mentioned could easily happen. it's a common thread in so many video games and books that to simply shoot it down is unreasonable. i think that it would be more easily ingested if the people bringing this information to light weren't behaving in such a nut job manner.

if you present something like: "oh hey, this is possibly going on, let's look into this..."
vs: "omg it's the end of everything everyone get your guns!"

obviously people won't want to hear it.

that said, the clip with Diane Watson is hilarious.

ryutaro's mama · (02-07-2009, 07:37 PM)

Originally Posted by KibblesBits:

honestly, most of the "bullet points" mentioned could easily happen. it's a common thread in so many video games and books that to simply shoot it down is unreasonable. i think that it would be more easily ingested if the people bringing this information to light weren't behaving in such a nut job manner.

if you present something like: "oh hey, this is possibly going on, let's look into this..."
vs: "omg it's the end of everything everyone get your guns!"

obviously people won't want to hear it.

that said, the clip with Diane Watson is hilarious.

Especially when the topics at the bottom of the page w/ the bulletpoints are:

TOPICS: Cheese, Moose, Sister; Conspiracy; UFO's

madara · (02-07-2009, 07:39 PM)

I've been seeing very bizarre flowers sprouting up in the last 5 days and there is a high amount of rabbits suddenly in the area with blank stares to their faces. Something is definitely going on here guys.

The Lamonster · (02-07-2009, 07:42 PM)

Originally Posted by B.K.:

He's going to be on during primetime? He better not be on during 24's time. >:(

ohhhhhh shit

Dupy · (02-07-2009, 07:42 PM)

I look forward to the inevitable "he meant 9/2, not 2/9" to keep this afloat.

lawblob · (02-07-2009, 07:42 PM)

I bet this guy has a few things to say about Jews and Freemasons, too. Amirite?

MacGuffin · (02-07-2009, 07:46 PM)

Is this guy a card carrying member of the Truth Movement and believe in a non-Scott Hall led nWo?

Ventrue · (02-07-2009, 07:47 PM)

Originally Posted by Javaman:

The thought that over 400 ELECTED officials would keep this completely in the secret without any major leaks and them all being for it is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard in my life. Rumors from Australia don't count.

This is the inevitable problem with conspiracy theories.

Watch C-Span. Then tell me that the childish, bumbling people you see on there are really capable of organising lunch, much less a conspiracy.

AlexMogil · (02-07-2009, 07:47 PM)

Therese are the fore bearers of the financial apocalypse! The Legatus Six!

If only we could hear Tommy Lasorda said to influence our futures at the conferences.

KibblesBits · (02-07-2009, 07:48 PM)

actually, it will be quite liberating to not carry around cash to be honest.
and the whole food scare thing will teach people to live off the land again...
and if the economy collapses it will be sweet to watch my last bits of debt vanish...

wait... this is bad? oh yeah... other countries could invade i guess. let's hope a euro country gets the us first and not a middle eastern one.

GDJustin · (02-07-2009, 07:54 PM)

Originally Posted by waynej506:

His predictions seem to follow the meetings of a Catholic organization of financial elites. Legatus, as the organization is called, is holding a meeting in Bermuda, the dates being February 5-7.

This is where I stopped reading.

JonesFTW · (02-07-2009, 07:58 PM)