Aggelos
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(02-28-2009, 05:40 AM)
#351

Any explanation why Chris is so brawny?...:D
USD
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(02-28-2009, 05:40 AM)

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Originally Posted by Duck Amuck:
I think type D's controls are absolutely unnatural. Having to hold down LT/L2 in order to aim and RT/R2 to shoot sucks ass. I like type A and C not only because I'm used to them, but also because I can essentially aim and shoot with one hand with my left hand moving the cursor. It makes for far more relaxing play to me. Type B and D use complete third person shooter controls and I don't think those controls work well with RE5 given you can't move and shoot, among other things.

I have used strafe on type C and I have not found it to be useful in the demo in the least.

How is it critical for different aiming and shooting buttons? I don't understand your complaint. Typically you are never shooting when you pull off a melee move in the first place, so what exactly do you mean? I can finish bosses just fine with melee moves. Shoot them in the head, run in, uppercut. You can't theoretically shoot and uppercut at the same time.

Type D is the reason most people I know are complaining about the controls since for some reason Capcom opted to make it the default scheme. I think type D controls like ass.
Originally Posted by Duck Amuck:
Strafe sucks because it's so slow. I don't see the use. If you could run while strafing, sure. I'm using it now and it just makes turning around corners far more slow. Not only do you have to move Chris with the left stick, you have continuously use right stick to do anything.

So convoluted.
As I said, with Type B and D controls, I can down a boss, run in, shoot them point blank, then melee.

I still don't get how LT/RT shooting is unnatural. It's the same mechanic use in a lot of the other games. It worked well in those, and it works well here too. Regardless of the control scheme, it takes holding one button and pushing/pulling another to shoot.

Strafing may be slow but, in order to take a few steps to the side in non-strafing control scheme, you have to physically turn and move, then turn back, a process that takes far longer (and honestly isn't worth it). Any time you're moving by walking, strafing controls trump the traditional RE ones.
Himuro
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(02-28-2009, 05:48 AM)
#353

Originally Posted by USD:
As I said, with Type B and D controls, I can down a boss, run in, shoot them point blank, then melee.

I still don't get how LT/RT shooting is unnatural. It's the same mechanic use in a lot of the other games. It worked well in those, and it works well here too. Regardless of the control scheme, it takes holding one button and pushing/pulling another to shoot.

Strafing may be slow but, in order to take a few steps to the side in non-strafing control scheme, you have to physically turn and move, then turn back, a process that takes far longer (and honestly isn't worth it). Any time you're moving by walking, strafing controls trump the traditional RE ones.
When I first tried type C I thought,"This feels more like traditional RE controls than type A does." given how slow the strafe is. While moving, I haven't noticed a difference aside from the fact I have to the right stick far too much on C and D.
USD
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(02-28-2009, 05:55 AM)

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I don't think I'll ever understand most complaints against Type D controls. For the most part, it's basic shooter controls put into the game (with no movement while aiming). If you've played a modern shooter before, then you should have no problem with Type D. The only difference is you can't shoot and move at the same time. I went in with no expectations, and was able to quickly grab the control scheme and adjust to it. I don't think I'm special in that regard.
Himuro
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#355

Originally Posted by USD:
The only difference is you can't shoot and move at the same time.
That's a big difference. That one thing completely alters the gameplay and stops it from being Gears of War. Since RE5 doesn't play like Gears, I don't think it should control like it either.

Hold LT to aim, shoot with RT and pull out the knife with LB? I can only imagine what it's like for someone who likes to switch between knife and guns.
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USD
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Originally Posted by Duck Amuck:
That's a big difference. That one thing completely alters the gameplay and stops it from being Gears of War. Since RE5 doesn't play like Gears, I don't think it should control like it either.

Hold LT to aim, shoot with RT and use the knife with LB? I can only imagine what it's like for someone who likes to switch between knife and guns.
All in all, with regards to LT/RT vs RT/X shooting, it's just different button combinations doing the same thing. I think you're greatly exaggerating the difficulty (or lack thereof) in using one versus the other, but I don't feel like getting into it, for the most part I've expressed my thoughts on the matter.
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Originally Posted by ~Kinggi~:
Jun Takeuchi Is No Liar: When RE5's producer assured us that this game had learned from RE4's mistakes, and wouldn't go on and on and on just for the sake of proving that Capcom could make a long Resident Evil game, well, he was being honest. RE5 is not a short game, especially when compared to earlier entries in the series. But it's a more concise experience than RE4's unnecessarily lengthy 30-hour gunfest (remember the castles? Yeah you do). "
This is the most dumb, moronic, shitty quote to come from any website ever. What the fuck 1up. Also 30 hours, what is wrong with you guys.
Himuro
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(02-28-2009, 06:31 AM)
#358

Never heard of anyone taking 30 hours with RE4
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BTW my Type A can destory your type D.
Wark
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(02-28-2009, 06:36 AM)

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Originally Posted by MiamiWesker:
BTW my Type A can destory your type D.
My type C has the biggest penis of any of the control types!
USD
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(02-28-2009, 06:41 AM)

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Originally Posted by MiamiWesker:
BTW my Type A can destory your type D.
I'm sorry, my Type D detales your Type A.

cwatididthar?
BruceLeeRoy
(02-28-2009, 06:45 AM)

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Wow awesome job on the thread guys it looks fantastic. I am absolutely amped for the game now.
Baloonatic
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(02-28-2009, 07:20 AM)

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Interesting, that preview says that shooting the emblems gets you points to spend on unlockables after you've finished. I hope there's a lot of them. Maybe it will be like Outbreak where you can buy new skins/costumes and artwork stuff.

And I use control type D and think it works beautifully.
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Originally Posted by cvxfreak:
I'm interesting in finding out what the alternative costumes are going to be.
I would not be surprised if it were just "classic" outfits. =/ If all else fails, STREET FIGHTER outfits too >_>
Ryn
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Originally Posted by Nemesis556:
I would not be surprised if it were just "classic" outfits. =/ If all else fails, STREET FIGHTER outfits too >_>
The last thing I want to see is Chris in a Ryu outfit and Sheva in a Chun Li outfit.
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(02-28-2009, 08:56 AM)

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Originally Posted by Ryn:
The last thing I want to see is Chris in a Ryu outfit and Sheva in a Chun Li outfit.
Sheva as Elena though?
chandoog
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(02-28-2009, 09:03 AM)

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i would so kill for them to include a playable Dante character swap for Chris, replacing the scrawny little knife with the Yamato or something and throwing in the two guns... that'd be so awesome.
Ryn
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I suppose.
Wark
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(02-28-2009, 09:25 AM)

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Originally Posted by Nemesis556:
I would not be surprised if it were just "classic" outfits. =/ If all else fails, STREET FIGHTER outfits too >_>
Call me boring, but I would love to see the characters in their classic outfits. Seeing Chris in Ryu's karate gi would be awesome. :lol
Erebus
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(02-28-2009, 09:38 AM)

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Originally Posted by Aggelos:
Any explanation why Chris is so brawny?...:D
It's Gears of War blame! this or steroids
Nemesis_
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Originally Posted by Wark:
Call me boring, but I would love to see the characters in their classic outfits. Seeing Chris in Ryu's karate gi would be awesome. :lol
I guess they are cool enough, but some cooler and unique stuff would be even better.

Still, the game will be awesome regardless of costumes =D
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(02-28-2009, 10:25 AM)

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Don't think it has bee noted in this thread yet but I pre-ordered one of these from EB today:



Note, only EB are selling them.

Edit: this is from Australia.
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Rez
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Originally Posted by x3n05:
Don't think it has bee noted in this thread yet but I pre-ordered one of these from EB today:

[IMG]http://www.ebgames.com.au/images/products/146738_deal.jpg[IMG]

Note, only EB are selling them.

Edit: this is from Australia.
Is that a fair deal from EB Games, or am I going crazy?
x3n05
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(02-28-2009, 10:39 AM)

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Originally Posted by Rez:
Is that a fair deal from EB Games, or am I going crazy?
Has to be a catch doesn't there? I was quite surprised myself, especially seeing as they are the only company in Aus carrying the pack.
Facism
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(02-28-2009, 10:41 AM)

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#375

Originally Posted by Aggelos:
Any explanation why Chris is so brawny?...:D
S-Virus
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(02-28-2009, 10:44 AM)

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#376

The PAL box art is shiiiiiiiiiiiity, whereas, the Asian/Japanese one is sexy.

Luckily, the awesome looking PAL LE makes up for it.

EDIT
Originally Posted by x3n05:
Has to be a catch doesn't there? I was quite surprised myself, especially seeing as they are the only company in Aus carrying the pack.
If I had the money, I'd buy that pack in an instant. I've been meaning to upgrade to an Elite for a while. I could really use the 120GB HD and, more importantly, the HDMI slot.
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Feindflug
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Originally Posted by Rez:
The PAL box art is shiiiiiiiiiiiity, whereas, the Asian/Japanese one is sexy.

Luckily, the awesome looking PAL LE with half the content doesn't make up for it.
Fixed.

Euroland might got the superior (I think) SFIV LE but we get the gimped version of RE5 LE - a steelbook with a making of DVD isn't enough. I seriously think to pre-ordered the Asian LE version from play-asia....umm will the game be region-free though? :P
rockman zx
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Originally Posted by Feindflug:
umm will the game be region-free though? :P
The Asian version of SFIV is region free, I guess RE5 will be too.

Anyway, someone knows where can I buy the korean version?.
Rez
(02-28-2009, 11:11 AM)

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Originally Posted by Feindflug:
Fixed.

Euroland might got the superior (I think) SFIV LE but we get the gimped version of RE5 LE - a steelbook with a making of DVD isn't enough. I seriously think to pre-ordered the Asian LE version from play-asia....umm will the game be region-free though? :P
In Australia, we get the US LE as an option, as well the steelbook version (not that the US edition is that much better). :D

But I was referring to the boxart, in any case. :p
Thrakier
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(02-28-2009, 12:01 PM)
#380

Still no comparison between PS3 resi 5 final and demo regarding the framerate issues!? Why?
jett
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(02-28-2009, 01:44 PM)

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Originally Posted by Duck Amuck:
Never heard of anyone taking 30 hours with RE4
Not 30...but first time it took me over 20 hours. My first Pro-difficutly run took me 24 hours.
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The RE games before RE4 took between 5-10 hours to get through the first go; maybe a bit more depending on how often one got stuck or for whatever reason. Then RE4 came out and was 20+ hours the first time through. I'm not saying that RE games shouldn't be that long, but RE5 should not be looked down upon, even a smidgen, because it's shorter than RE4; because RE4 was probably longer than it needed to be.

RE5 will no doubt be the second longest game in the franchise. I'm not sure why there's so much commotion over that.
Dark FaZe
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Originally Posted by MiamiWesker:
This is the most dumb, moronic, shitty quote to come from any website ever. What the fuck 1up. Also 30 hours, what is wrong with you guys.
Pretty much. I don't know one person who went through RE4 and finished and was like..."wow what an overpadded experience". It had great pacing the whole way through and to say that RE5 being shorter is a positive is complete bullshit in my mind.

Also TYPE D ftw.

Originally Posted by brandonh83:
because RE4 was probably longer than it needed to be.
Absolute FAIL.
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Originally Posted by Dark FaZe:
Pretty much. I don't know one person who went through RE4 and finished and was like..."wow what an overpadded experience". It had great pacing the whole way through and to say that RE5 being shorter is a positive is complete bullshit in my mind.
I think old milky might've lied about all that extra freedom he's supposed to have now.
VaLiancY
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(02-28-2009, 03:29 PM)
#385

I just finish watching Extinction.

Shame on me.
Synless
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(02-28-2009, 03:33 PM)

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Originally Posted by Thrakier:
Still no comparison between PS3 resi 5 final and demo regarding the framerate issues!? Why?
Maybe there are none, at least one can hope.
DeathbyVolcano
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Originally Posted by Dark FaZe:
Pretty much. I don't know one person who went through RE4 and finished and was like..."wow what an overpadded experience". It had great pacing the whole way through and to say that RE5 being shorter is a positive is complete bullshit in my mind.

Also TYPE D ftw.



Absolute FAIL.
Yeah, to be honest, at the end of RE4 I was kind of expecting a bit more. :lol
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Originally Posted by Rez:
Is that a fair deal from EB Games, or am I going crazy?
If the Killzone Bundle was anything to go by - we'll get one extra unit in on top of pre-orders.

Definitely pre-order this one up if you want it. Shame I already have a 360 and all those things =P
brandonh83
(02-28-2009, 04:27 PM)

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Originally Posted by Dark FaZe:
Absolute FAIL.
I should rephrase. There's not a second of RE4 that I didn't like. However, I don't think the game was better because it was longer. It was a good 2-3 times longer than any RE before it, with Code: Veronica being the longest of the more traditional RE titles.

What I'm saying is that RE5 shouldn't be frowned upon because it isn't as long as RE4. RE4 was unnaturally long for an RE game.

Originally Posted by Christopher:
wow...what a shitty opinion on the story, castle, and Salazar.

Salazar was pretty interesting, and something different seen in the Resident Evil world. Sick, and pretty twiste with that dry sense of humor...plus he filled in the gaps of silence without story going on.
Sorry dude, I don't buy the idea that my opinion that an RE game which has a 3 foot tall castellan that wears a pirate hat that is under control of a castle full of satanic monks which is in league with a boring, cloaked main villain who had the president's daughter kidnapped is a shitty opinion. Because even in the realm of RE, I think that's a completely shitty plot.

I love the game, I just hate the story. And it's cool that you liked it all, but bashing someone's opinion that it was a bad plot is pretty fucking ridiculous because that is NOT a story that can be easily and successfully defended. It's true that RE isn't exactly literature, but at the same time the series knows how corny it is and I didn't think any of the games, until RE4, crossed its established corniness boundaries, if you will. There's a fine line between cheesiness and foolishness.

The earlier RE games were good, cheesy fun. RE4 was just fucking retarded, plot wise. Krauser was the only new character worth a damn. And as I said, I liked Salazar from a humor standpoint. His bickering with Leon was entertaining. But at the same time, I still couldn't get over how batshit nutty it all was. So in a way, while I thought it was horrible, it still amused me which is why I didn't think RE4 was a complete disaster. It's just not the RE plot I wanted.
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Originally Posted by VaLiancY:
I just finish watching Extinction.

Shame on me.
I liked Extinction =(

dp, sorry, I thought someone already posted under my last one
Snaku
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I swear to Christ if Jill is dead at the end of this game...
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Originally Posted by brandonh83:
It's just not the RE plot I wanted.
Probably the reason behind the hate the RE4 plot receive, the early versions of the game promised bring to the light a lot of the dark holes in the general RE plot. Instead we get a uninteresting bunch of new evil characters and avoiding almost any reference to the past RE games, with somewhat feel like a new beginning.

But beyond that RE4 plot it's not that bad, it's extremely cheesy and fun, and the cutscenes blows and were expectacular, and Ada became badass in RE4, and Krauser was awesome as well, Salazar continous bad jokes in the codec scenes with Leon were fun to watch. :lol

"I see the president equiped his daughter..with ballistics too" :lol :lol c'mon dialogues in RE4 were awesomely bad.
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Man if the spoiler about Wesker dieing is true. ;_;
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Originally Posted by Relaxed Muscle:
Probably the reason behind the hate the RE4 plot receive, the early versions of the game promised bring to the light a lot of the dark holes in the general RE plot. Instead we get a uninteresting bunch of new evil characters and avoiding almost any reference to the past RE games, with somewhat feel like a new beginning.

"I see the president equiped his daughter..with ballistics too" :lol :lol c'mon dialogues in RE4 were awesomely bad.
I think you perfectly point out the issues I had with RE4 as a whole, I felt that with the earlier version we're supposed to get a MGS4 type story explanation. Instead we got a CV type extension, that rasied more questions than it answered. RE5 on the other hand is setting itself up to be the MGS4 of the RE series.

The dialog between Leon and the villians though was GOLD. I loved it, I always wondered who does the English Language script for the RE games? With this I mean the intital translation that a voice director will work with and eventually adapt on their on (or with MGS4's case approval from KojimaPro. I know for MGS1 it was done, by a pretty expert guy, in terms of translating the dialog, but I also think it was Scott Dolph to an extent for it and the the later ones, before MGS4.

Still, I've never heard anything about the RE series, except that Mikami was that for one of the sessions (it may have been REmake) and would give apporval, based on his interpertation of the performance, despite not knowing English. Any one have any info on who handled RE4's translation or VO directing?

Whoever did RE4 watched a lot of the same 80s action movies as I did lol.
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Originally Posted by Oldschoolgamer:
Man if the spoiler about Wesker dieing is true. ;_;
It better be. He's a lamest and most cliche villian I've ever come across in any video game ever. Just listen to his dialogue in the trailers... ugh, awful. He's not even creepy.
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Originally Posted by KeeSomething:
It better be. He's a lamest and most cliche villian I've ever come across in any video game ever. Just listen to his dialogue in the trailers... ugh, awful. He's not even creepy.
WHAT WHAT!!!!

Not really a spoiler, but it gives away who he is.

Wesker is amazing, I love his upper crust New England accent and how he just believes he is better than anyone else, the arrogance he displays is always fun to watch along side his refined nature
KeeSomething
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Originally Posted by Manos: The Hans of Fate:
WHAT WHAT!!!!

Not really a spoiler, but it gives away who he is.

Wesker is amazing, I love his upper crust New England accent and how he just believes he is better than anyone else, the arrogance he displays is always fun to watch along side his refined nature
Chris is gonna make Wesker his girlfriend at the end of RE5, and that's that. Wesker is a dork, too.

I'm kinda sorta kidding, but not really. I like him in RE1, but I don't think he makes a good main villain for Resident Evil when we got creeps in the background like the founders of Umbrella (which are now all dead, right?). Though, to his credit, Wesker is much cooler than Saddler.
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Originally Posted by KeeSomething:
Chris is gonna make Wesker his girlfriend at the end of RE5, and that's that. Wesker is a dork, too.

I'm kinda sorta kidding, but not really. I like him in RE1, but I don't think he makes a good main villain for Resident Evil when we got creeps in the background like the founders of Umbrella (which are now all dead, right?). Though, to his credit, Wesker is much cooler than Saddler.
Actually that is Wesker's strengh, he is cold and calculating, he is NOT just batshit crazy like most of the people who work for Umbrella. The type of people who when shit happens inject themselves with Bioweapons, which ONLY make them hulking monsters. I mean Wesker is more a meglomanic, than just insane. He wants power (and maybe wealth), though it seems he is finally tilting towards the batshit crazy area, which is what is going to do him in
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Toys-R-Us is having a couple of special deals for RE5:

-You get a Free $50 Gift Card and 12+1 XBL Subscription when you purchase both an Xbox 360 Pro & Resident Evil 5

-You get a Free $20 Gift Card when you purchase Resident Evil 5 for either the 360 or PS3.


These deals are only on March 13th and March 14th.
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Originally Posted by Relaxed Muscle:
Probably the reason behind the hate the RE4 plot receive, the early versions of the game promised bring to the light a lot of the dark holes in the general RE plot. Instead we get a uninteresting bunch of new evil characters and avoiding almost any reference to the past RE games, with somewhat feel like a new beginning.

But beyond that RE4 plot it's not that bad, it's extremely cheesy and fun, and the cutscenes blows and were expectacular, and Ada became badass in RE4, and Krauser was awesome as well, Salazar continous bad jokes in the codec scenes with Leon were fun to watch. :lol

"I see the president equiped his daughter..with ballistics too" :lol :lol c'mon dialogues in RE4 were awesomely bad.

the end credits were the best (and most profound) part of RE4's whole story.

Absolutely tragic- and the music that went along with it was perfect.