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Wii emulator can do 720p HD
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Setvan2734
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So how would this laptop be for the average Wii game?
Neuromancer
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So OK. This probably already been discussed before but I can't find it. Is the general opinion that if this emulator can run Wii games in 720P, then Nintendo theoretically could put out an HD version of the Wii that could do the exact same thing? Or is it more complicated than that?
LocoMrPollock
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Sorry if this is a dumb question, but how is waggle emulated?
Pennywise83
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scitek said:
I thought NeoGaf was against Piracy...
I should be doing hw
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What game is that?Kenka said:Sweet Lord, Move version ?o
Ok, I will in a sec and yeah one of the latest, at the time I posted that I was, but thier seems to be a new one every hour so I can't say yes for certain :lolNabs said:
Just checked, I'm on revision 5178
MvmntInGrn
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Red Steel 2I should be doing hw said:
Ok, hopefully simple questions that should be easy to fix. Finally have all my Wii/GC games that I want to play on my PC and loaded into Dolphin. The thing is I want to be able to edit the stuff in the title/banner area when browsing the game list and don't seem to be able to change anything right now. Are these forever unchangeable?
DCEmu Reviews was informed by VDIGI that they have just released VD-W3 Wii HDMI Upscaler Processor. This is the world first dedicated Wii HDMI upscaler, it can support connection though HDMI or DVI, and enjoy resolution up to 1080p or monitor resolution 1680x1050.
* For DVI monitor users, you may need to order the optional Female DVI to Male HDMI converter, so that you can plug your monitor DVI end to the VD-W3 HDMI end for the video, and for audio, you may connect your PC speaker 3.5mm plug to the VD-W3 audio jack.
* For HDTV users (make sure you have HDMI input), what you need is a HDMI cable, you may purchase it together with VD-W3.
VD-W3 HDMI Upscaler Processor is available now for US$75.00.
Specs
* Input: Wii AV Connector x 1, USB Type A Plug x 1.
* Output: HDMI x1 , 3.5mm Stereo Audio Jack.
* Video In Supported: EDTV(480i/576i), SDTV(480p/576p)
* Video Out Supported : 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p, 1280x1024, 1440x900, 1650x1050 (at refresh rate 59.94Hz)
* Audio Out: HDMI audio, Analog audio.
* Bi-Color LED: Blue and Red.
* Operating Temperature: 5°C to 60°C (41°F to 140°F)
* Dimensions (approximate): 12cm (L) x 7cm (W) x 2.5cm (H)
* Mass (approximate): ~180g
Powerful Video Signal conversion
* Crystal shape image, Outstanding picture quality.
* Full HD (1080p) output.
* True 10-Bits high definition video scaler engine.
* AV grade scaler engine
User Friendly
* No external power required.
* Easy to setup.
* LED status indication.
Wide Range Video Display support
* Support TV (HDMI) and PC Monitor (DVI).
* HDMI-Audio and Analog audio out.
* Various HDTV video out.
* Native resolution for LCD monitor.
http://n4g.com/tech/News-496523.aspx
* For DVI monitor users, you may need to order the optional Female DVI to Male HDMI converter, so that you can plug your monitor DVI end to the VD-W3 HDMI end for the video, and for audio, you may connect your PC speaker 3.5mm plug to the VD-W3 audio jack.
* For HDTV users (make sure you have HDMI input), what you need is a HDMI cable, you may purchase it together with VD-W3.
VD-W3 HDMI Upscaler Processor is available now for US$75.00.
Specs
* Input: Wii AV Connector x 1, USB Type A Plug x 1.
* Output: HDMI x1 , 3.5mm Stereo Audio Jack.
* Video In Supported: EDTV(480i/576i), SDTV(480p/576p)
* Video Out Supported : 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p, 1280x1024, 1440x900, 1650x1050 (at refresh rate 59.94Hz)
* Audio Out: HDMI audio, Analog audio.
* Bi-Color LED: Blue and Red.
* Operating Temperature: 5°C to 60°C (41°F to 140°F)
* Dimensions (approximate): 12cm (L) x 7cm (W) x 2.5cm (H)
* Mass (approximate): ~180g
Powerful Video Signal conversion
* Crystal shape image, Outstanding picture quality.
* Full HD (1080p) output.
* True 10-Bits high definition video scaler engine.
* AV grade scaler engine
User Friendly
* No external power required.
* Easy to setup.
* LED status indication.
Wide Range Video Display support
* Support TV (HDMI) and PC Monitor (DVI).
* HDMI-Audio and Analog audio out.
* Various HDTV video out.
* Native resolution for LCD monitor.
http://n4g.com/tech/News-496523.aspx
i'm sorry, but what magic are you guys expecting from this? it's an upscaler. it might look marginally better than your tv's internal upscaler but that's it. it wont' suddenly make the wii render in a higher resolution, if that's what you're thinking. you will still be playing your wii at 480p on a 1080p set.
Always-honest
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well, i'd like to see what the differnce is.
but i'd rather see them release a HD Wii...
but i'd rather see them release a HD Wii...
ToastyBanana
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jarosh said:
This pretty much from the screenshots on their site that aren't renders/menu screens.
http://www.vdigi.com/index.php?page...Itemid=53&vmcchk=1&Itemid=53#twoj_fragment1-4
I should be doing hw
Member
Yeah this looks so much better than Dolphin, I can definitely see myself shelling out $75 US for this!
yeah, i'd stay far far away from that thing... conveniently all the zoomed in pics and most of the other screenshots show anti-aliased text, pre-rendered cutscenes, title screens, menu screens etc.: all of these look just as smooth without the device. that pic of link might even be intentionally misleading. it looks like it's from a cutscene of smash bros., twilight princess will NOT look like that. the in-game shots look just like the wii would look through component on any lcd. there's no reason to waste 75 bucks on a device like that.
Always-honest
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indeedjarosh said:
Thanks to Nintendo Benelux dropping the ball on the Soul Silver release date, I bought Red Steel 2 today. The game, while looking nice, is unplayable in Dolphin. Whenever you turn/sidestep, a vital part of the game especially on hard mode, the post processing done in the game slow downs the emulator to a crawl :lol . It still looks pretty nice and I can get really close to Ubisoft bullshot territory (Except for the damn cursor looking terrible in 1080P).
brain_stew
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Vizion28 said:
Upscaled from a resolution around 3-4x higher than the native resolution that the Wii outputs and often with some form of AA, yes. Games played on native Wii ahrdware will forever look shit, there is no fix.
jarosh said:
Sure thing, the choice of comparsion screens in the VDIGI website really feels like a scam
However, it seems more manufacteres are getting into the "wii upscaler" business.
Google it and you will find at least 3 different websites promising new Wii Upscalers for the next few days.
Not always 3-4x, there's games that are internally upscaled because they are sub-720p, including some popular games, and you're quite far from that value... You only have a 3x in pixels (1.5x in vertical resolution, 2x in horizontal resolution) for true 720p games. Sub-720p games are between 2x and 3x in pixels (1.2x - 1.4x the Wii vertical resolution).brain_stew said:
For example :
Halo 3 is 1152x640 noAA (H resolution is 1.8x, V resolution is 1.3x, which is 2.4x as many pixels)
Call of Duty: MW2 is 1024x600 2xAA (H 1.6x, V 1.25x, total twice as many pixels)
Guitar Hero 5 is 1024x576 no AA (H 1.6x, V 1.2x, total 1.9x as many pixels)
Final Fantasy XIII on 360 is 1024x576 2xAA (H 1.6x, V 1.2x, total 1.9x as many pixels)
The leap is not as huge as many think, but still noticeable.
Fortunately, many games are now native 720p.
In fact, I think that many people find the Wii images glitchy in HD because they are upscaled from 480p to 1080p, and a details setting set too high. PS3/360 images for non native 720p games are upscaled twice (once by the console, once by the TV) or fully by the console. I'm pretty sure that the internal scaling is done with a details setting quite low, so that doesn't induce high-frequency defaults that catch the eye.
No matter what, i still want to read a review on this thing....
From the marketing point of view, the Wii HD add on is the only choice for nintendo to upgrade its home console* without making its installed base feel like idiots
(*HOME! Not portable! Portables can get multiple upgraded SKUs without too much of a hassle. Home consoles gets more heat when it comes to upgrade)
So, even with every tech savvy gafer saying it is impossible for a Wii HD add on to achieve Dophin quality upscaling* wii games, i still want to see a review on this thing...
(*and i know people will say dolphin isnt upscaling anything. whatever, im not the tech savvy here)
From the marketing point of view, the Wii HD add on is the only choice for nintendo to upgrade its home console* without making its installed base feel like idiots
(*HOME! Not portable! Portables can get multiple upgraded SKUs without too much of a hassle. Home consoles gets more heat when it comes to upgrade)
So, even with every tech savvy gafer saying it is impossible for a Wii HD add on to achieve Dophin quality upscaling* wii games, i still want to see a review on this thing...
(*and i know people will say dolphin isnt upscaling anything. whatever, im not the tech savvy here)
I was going to ask specifically about this. I'm interested in playing it after having fun with the girlfriend's copy, but don't really want to have to buy anything but the game itself.Nabs said:
I've got a tri core Phenom, 2gb ram and 4850 1gb GPU. From what you've posted that seems like overkill? Will I need a wiimote and a bluetooth dongle?
infinityBCRT
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I'm thinking about getting a Wii Remote + Nunchuk for Dolphin. Any suggestions on whether I should get a 3rd party one or not? The Mad Catz Remote + Nunchuk bundle costs nearly half of what a normal Wiimote costs but I'm worried how well it will work compared to an original Wiimote.
By the way, I found out something weird. If I run Windows Media Player before I run Dolphin I get a significant FPS increase in some situations (like 50%). It sounds retarded but it works. I guess it might have to do with the way Windows Media Player handles multicore stuff.
By the way, I found out something weird. If I run Windows Media Player before I run Dolphin I get a significant FPS increase in some situations (like 50%). It sounds retarded but it works. I guess it might have to do with the way Windows Media Player handles multicore stuff.
Cow Mengde
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54-46! said:Monster Hunter Tri demo runs smooth as well
Looks weird. Did you turn off the bloom crap? Is it even possible or just an emulator thing? This game looks ugly with or without it.
infinityBCRT said:
I would definitely recommend 1st party hardware in this case. At least some of the 3rd party stuff has been reported to have issues with Dolphin.
The Media Player thing might be because your CPU or GPU stays in power save mode for some reason when you start Dolphin. Try monitoring your frequencies with a program like CPU-Z while you start Dolphin or Media Player.
infinityBCRT
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Gah, I'm having this issue where my video card TDRs (nvidia kernel has recovered from a crash) when I'm playing New Super Mario Bros on my laptop (G51Jx, i7-720QM, 1GB nVidia 360m, 6GB DDR3 RAM). It doesn't happen on my desktop (i5, 384MB BFG 8800GTS OC2).
It doesn't matter if I just leave it in demo mode or play myself it seems to TDR anywhere from 30 seconds to a minute into playing. And if I turn off TDR detection in Windows 7 (64bit) it just ends up freezing instead. I monitored my CPU and GPU temps and the CPU was around 60 C and the GPU was around 69 C when it happened which I believe are safe temps.
I'm running OCCT right now and my CPUs are around 60 C and the GPU is hitting 80 C. I already did the GPU memtest and didn't get any errors and now I'm doing the GPU test and we'll see if it gets any errors.
If theres no errors the only thing I can think of is to uninstall my drivers and do a driver sweep. I'm thinking this might just be some weird error with the way Dolphin accesses my GPU because I don't get this in Crysis or Street Fighter 4.
edit: wow just found a post from a year ago of mine where I was having the same issue on my desktop and it was solved by installing a certain driver revision. Totally didn't remember that.
edit 2: driver sweeper may have done the trick--- i did have one "dolphin.exe has stopped working" while the demo was playing but no TDRs so far in about 8 minutes... so glad because I bought the wiimote already and didn't want to go and return it
edit 3: so issues aren't entirely fixed... rest of the discussion is here: http://neogaf.net/forum/showthread.php?p=20637351#post20637351
It doesn't matter if I just leave it in demo mode or play myself it seems to TDR anywhere from 30 seconds to a minute into playing. And if I turn off TDR detection in Windows 7 (64bit) it just ends up freezing instead. I monitored my CPU and GPU temps and the CPU was around 60 C and the GPU was around 69 C when it happened which I believe are safe temps.
I'm running OCCT right now and my CPUs are around 60 C and the GPU is hitting 80 C. I already did the GPU memtest and didn't get any errors and now I'm doing the GPU test and we'll see if it gets any errors.
If theres no errors the only thing I can think of is to uninstall my drivers and do a driver sweep. I'm thinking this might just be some weird error with the way Dolphin accesses my GPU because I don't get this in Crysis or Street Fighter 4.
edit: wow just found a post from a year ago of mine where I was having the same issue on my desktop and it was solved by installing a certain driver revision. Totally didn't remember that.
edit 2: driver sweeper may have done the trick--- i did have one "dolphin.exe has stopped working" while the demo was playing but no TDRs so far in about 8 minutes
... so glad because I bought the wiimote already and didn't want to go and return itedit 3: so issues aren't entirely fixed... rest of the discussion is here: http://neogaf.net/forum/showthread.php?p=20637351#post20637351
Stallion Free
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The Conduit, runs ~30 fps at 1080p w/ 4x SS (resized):
Scythesurge
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Damn I thought that 2nd Conduit picture was Bioshock 2 :-o
Stallion Free
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Scythesurge said:
:lol :lol The wonders of resolution.
Alex
Member
Or eyesight. The Conduit looks like shit.
Nintendo's teams are wonky, Mario Galaxy has this fantastic texturing that scales so well but then Twilight Princess has some of the worst texturing I've seen since first gen PS2. (which is especially annoying after Wind Waker looked so good)
Nintendo's teams are wonky, Mario Galaxy has this fantastic texturing that scales so well but then Twilight Princess has some of the worst texturing I've seen since first gen PS2. (which is especially annoying after Wind Waker looked so good)
You were trying to emulate an emulator?rhfb said:I just wish emulation was perfect
Still need to pickup a wireless sensor bar to really get into my Wii games.
I can extract saves via the sd card right?