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Harmonix Unveils Rock Band Network: Put Your Music In The Game

birdman

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http://creators.rockband.com/

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MTV To Launch New Track Upload Program For 'Rock Band'
July 17, 2009 - Digital and Mobile

By Antony Bruno, Denver

Most recording artists would love to have their music available on MTV Networks' "Rock Band" videogame. But MTV's Harmonix unit, the developer of "Rock Band," simply hasn't had the time or staff to program the vast number of songs it would like to include in the game.

That's about to change. Later this year, MTV plans to launch a groundbreaking initiative called the Rock Band Network that will enable any artist-unsigned emerging act, indie cult fave or major-label superstar-to submit songs for possible inclusion in the game.

The Rock Band Network recently started a closed beta trial, which MTV expects to expand to a public beta test in August. The company hopes to open the Rock Band Network store before year's end. Songs available through the new store, which will remain separate from the existing "Rock Band" store, will be initially available for download to users of Microsoft's Xbox 360 game console. MTV expects to eventually make the popular tracks available for use on the Sony PlayStation 3 and Nintendo Wii game systems.

"We've figured out how to make it so anybody who owns and controls masters and publishing can put music into ["Rock Band"] at their own pace," says MTV Games senior VP of electronic games and music Paul DeGooyer. "We're talking about a set of serious professional tools to allow people on the front line of writing and recording songs to completely control their destiny with respect to interactive products and then giving them direct access to the download store."

Rather than deal with Harmonix directly, artists and labels will submit songs to a community of Harmonix-trained freelance game developers who will prepare the tracks for "Rock Band."
Additionally, labels can either hire trained developers or school their existing employees to do the work in-house.

Songs submitted through this process must then be reviewed by other developers to check for playability, inappropriate lyrics, copyright infringement and so on. Harmonix will post approved tracks to an in-game download store separate from its existing "Rock Band" store where creators can set their own price (50 cents to $3 per song) and receive 30% of any resulting sales. Gamers will also be able to demo 30-second samples of each track.

Although originally designed to give indie and unsigned artists a way to sell music through the game, MTV quickly realized the Rock Band Network could be used to clear the bottleneck for major-label content as well. While the Harmonix team has grown from fewer than 10 programmers to a few dozen since MTV acquired the videogame developer in 2006, the company can only add about 10 new songs per week to sell through the "Rock Band" store. The same team has also been handling the development work for the upcoming "The Beatles: Rock Band," due in September.

"Once we flip on the infrastructure, we can go from a few dozen people capable of doing this work to hundreds of people or more," Harmonix founder/CEO Alex Rigopulos says. "We can ramp up by a factor of 10 or more the rate of production of content."

So far, Harmonix developers have made about 700 songs available to download and play on the game. Those titles have sold a combined 50 million downloads through the game, demonstrating an ability to drive sales that has other artists and labels itching to have their music included.

Sub Pop Records head of A&R Tony Kiewel says the label is expecting to submit songs from its upcoming fall releases as well as its bigger releases from the past two years.

"It's very exciting news to us," Kiewel says. "It's important to participate in every possible revenue stream available. Whatever gets your music heard helps your overall awareness and ability to sell records and downloads."

Artists could use the Rock Band Network to upload their entire discography to the game or release an album through the game day-and-date with a new CD release or the start of a tour.

"If there's a really great song we love, we'd promote that, because that helps everybody," DeGooyer says. "We're also able to see what's selling well. If stuff has some heat on it, we may pick up on it . . . If Judas Priest decided to put their whole catalog in the Rock Band Network, we would promote the heck out of that."

Differentiating 'Rock Band' From 'Guitar Hero'

By launching the Rock Band Network, MTV is essentially doubling down on downloadable content, the primary point of differentiation between "Rock Band" and Activision's rival "Guitar Hero" franchise. While Activision makes the occasional song available for download for "Guitar Hero," its primary strategy is to sell expansion discs like "Guitar Hero: Metallica" and the forthcoming "Guitar Hero: Van Halen."

By contrast, MTV wants "Rock Band" to become a platform for music distribution, using its interactive features to lure music fans who otherwise may not be buying music.

"Recorded music on its own no longer leads the charge for artists," MTV's DeGooyer says. "It's now this aggregated value proposition of recorded music, touring, merch, branding, Web presence and now videogames . . . If we get this right, music creators will start to think about what they're releasing in terms of interactivity."

The Rock Band Network is the result of a 16-month development process with a number of partners. Most important was Microsoft. Tracks released through the Rock Band Network will only be available at first to Xbox 360 users, as it relies on Microsoft's XNA game development platform and its Creators Club online community of developers.

The Creators Club allows freelance developers or hobbyists to make their own games and sell them on the Xbox Live Marketplace. Games created through this process must first be submitted to the Creators Club community for game-play and content review before they are added to the marketplace.

The Rock Band Network marks the first time that XNA and the Creators Club have been used to outsource the development of expansions to an existing game, according to Dave Mitchell, the Microsoft product unit manager in charge of overseeing the two programs.

The Creators Club reviews about 30-50 games per month. Because MTV and Microsoft expect the number of "Rock Band" submissions to quickly dwarf these totals, the software giant took the unprecedented step of creating a custom version of the Creators Club for Harmonix, complete with a customized set of review procedures specific to music games-including checking for copyright infringement-which Harmonix will host separate from the existing Microsoft site.

Another key partnership is with the software developer Cockos, which customized a version of its Reaper audio production application that developers will use to program the audio stems needed to create each instrument and vocal track within "Rock Band." Reaper will also allow developers to customize the avatars, camera angles and lighting for the background video rather than using the automatically generated default setting. Cockos is working with Audible Magic and Gracenote to identify rights holders.

And finally there is the freelance game development community. Harmonix will hold regular training sessions to certify developers for the program and operate a support forum staffed by Harmonix developers to answer questions. It will also maintain a list of certified developers for artists and labels to contact and reach out to existing rhythm game community sites like ScoreHero.

"This is arguably the most complicated initiative Harmonix has ever tried to get off the ground, given the number of parties involved and the technical infrastructure involved," Rigopulos says.

Potential Risks

MTV is moving slowly with the rollout mostly because of the anticipated volume of submissions. If the response from artists and labels is anywhere near what MTV expects, the program may experience delays in reviewing and approving songs until a critical mass of developers and reviewers emerges.

Another concern is ensuring that the playability of songs developed for the game through its namesake network will match the sophistication of those developed in-house. Selling songs that provide a sub-par playing experience would hurt the integrity of the "Rock Band" store and could drive labels away from the program.

The decision to keep the Rock Band Network store separate from the existing one was made to address both issues. But operating two different download stores raises the possibility that artists, labels and customers may come to view the Rock Band Network store as an inferior "kids' table." It could also cause confusion because it would require users to search through two stores.

DeGooyer says MTV will keep a close eye on the music submitted to the store and cherry-pick tracks to promote as part of its weekly "Rock Band" communication. While it doesn't expect to move songs from one store to another, MTV could decide to merge the two outlets if the program is successful.

"It's kind of a capitalistic petri dish," DeGooyer says. "I can envision a song coming into the Rock Band Network first, getting traction, picking up customers through online play and then being picked up by MTV's programming and showing up there. We've shown we can sell millions of songs in the 'Rock Band' store. So it really does tie into a larger picture."

I think it's a really awesome idea that shows tons of promise.
 
The quote from Sub Pop makes this the most exciting Music Game based announcement probably ever, at least for me.

THE STRINGS ARE CUT, MATADOR. IT'S MALKMUS TIME.
 

Archie

Second-rate Anihawk
This is a gigantic step forward in the music game genre and for the music industry in general. A ton of garage and Myspace bands are going to get alot more exposure.
 

BreakyBoy

o_O @_@ O_o
This has so much potential. Activision/Neversoft must be praying that this doesn't take off before they get a shot at something similar.
 

mrWalrus

Banned
Very Cool!

Edit:
In reference to the money artist will receive from their sales.
...and receive 30% of any resulting sales.

That's EA greed for you.
 

Gowans

Member
http://creators.rockband.com/

This is huge.

Really glad its still a platform approach and a patch too, yey MTV & Harmonix!


Have they got the cut the wrong way round though 30%? XNA devs get 70%. If its 30% that's pretty harsh.


Also I'm guess it will just be the user created track and no input on the lipsync and stage animations, pyro etc?
 

Pancho

Qurupancho
The possibilities of these are endless! Now much lesser bands can have a chance of putting their songs on the game! Oh please some Porcupine Tree!
 

Magik

Member
We should somehow get this thread into the OT discussion as well. I'm pretty sure some of the musicians hanging around there would be interested in this.
 
I wanna take the "Harmonix Certification" test!

That would actually be pretty funny if bands now had a dedicated "chart creator" that toured with them or something :lol
 
Gowans007 said:
http://creators.rockband.com/

This is huge.


Have they got the cut the wrong way round though 30%? XNA devs get 70%. If its 30% that's pretty harsh.


Also I'm guess it will just be the user created track and no input on the lipsync and stage animations, pyro etc?
Another key partnership is with the software developer Cockos, which customized a version of its Reaper audio production application that developers will use to program the audio stems needed to create each instrument and vocal track within "Rock Band." Reaper will also allow developers to customize the avatars, camera angles and lighting for the background video rather than using the automatically generated default setting. Cockos is working with Audible Magic and Gracenote to identify rights holders.
 

XShagrath

Member
Gowans007 said:
Also I'm guess it will just be the user created track and no input on the lipsync and stage animations, pyro etc?

The video on creators.rockband.com states that they'll have access to all the animations, venues, everything that the DLC team has access to.
 
BenjaminBirdie said:
The quote from Sub Pop makes this the most exciting Music Game based announcement probably ever, at least for me.

THE STRINGS ARE CUT, MATADOR. IT'S MALKMUS TIME.

You're awesome, Birdie.

I couldn't care less if I can get shitty songs by no-name bands, but Spiral Stairs has nothing better to do than work on this.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
This is huge, but the lack of multiplatform support is disheartening.

Gowans007 said:
http://creators.rockband.com/

This is huge.

Really glad its still a platform approach and a patch too, yey MTV & Harmonix!


Have they got the cut the wrong way round though 30%? XNA devs get 70%. If its 30% that's pretty harsh.


Also I'm guess it will just be the user created track and no input on the lipsync and stage animations, pyro etc?

You have to take into account that both EA and Microsoft will be getting a piece of the pie.

30/40/30
 

Ridley327

Member
Gowans007 said:
http://creators.rockband.com/

This is huge.


Have they got the cut the wrong way round though 30%? XNA devs get 70%. If its 30% that's pretty harsh.


Also I'm guess it will just be the user created track and no input on the lipsync and stage animations, pyro etc?

The video on the website (shown here) says you basically have control over every aspect of the song, including what happens in the background.

Like it has already been said, this is a gigantic leap forward for user-created content.
 

Gowans

Member
Magik said:
Creators get FULL control.
XShagrath said:
The video on creators.rockband.com states that they'll have access to all the animations, venues, everything that the DLC team has access to.
Ridley327 said:
The video on the website (shown here) says you basically have control over every aspect of the song, including what happens in the background.

Like it has already been said, this is a gigantic leap forward for user-created content.
EVEN BETTER!
 

Kintaro

Worships the porcelain goddess
Songs available through the new store, which will remain separate from the existing "Rock Band" store, will be initially available for download to users of Microsoft's Xbox 360 game console. MTV expects to eventually make the popular tracks available for use on the Sony PlayStation 3 and Nintendo Wii game systems.

Wow, 360 wins again. =O Are they like, helping out with this directly or what?
 

TheExodu5

Banned
Kintaro said:
Wow, 360 wins again. =O Are they like, helping out with this directly or what?

They're using XNA to make the tools available.

It's really too bad there's no multiplatform support, but I guess that's partly a result of Microsoft making development tools so easily available.
 

DMczaf

Member
mrWalrus said:
Very Cool!

Edit:
In reference to the money artist will receive from their sales.
...and receive 30% of any resulting sales.

That's EA greed for you.

So you expect them to do this for free?

Also, MTV owns Harmonix.
 

Pancho

Qurupancho
Oni Jazar said:
This. It's impossible to switch consoles once you commit to the system and purchased a lot of DLC. :/

Yeah, although awesome the whole 360 exclusivity gets me sorta down :( . I hope it eventually comes to us PS3 users and HMX don't leave us in the dust.
 

Baker

Banned
mrWalrus said:
Very Cool!

Edit:
In reference to the money artist will receive from their sales.
...and receive 30% of any resulting sales.

That's EA greed for you.
How is that greed? They're taking the song, charting it, and putting it into a video game.

I think XBLA creators only get ~30% and all microsoft does is throw the game up to download.
 
This could be as defining for the music game genre as iTunes has been for the music business in general.

It's a damn shame that I don't like the "feel" of Rock Band compared to GH :/
 

RotBot

Member
Harmonix will post approved tracks to an in-game download store separate from its existing "Rock Band" store where creators can set their own price (50 cents to $3 per song) and receive 30% of any resulting sales. Gamers will also be able to demo 30-second samples of each track.
Does this mean artists can't give away free tracks or just the minimum price for paid songs is 50 cents?
 

Kintaro

Worships the porcelain goddess
TheExodu5 said:
They're using XNA to make the tools available.

It's really too bad there's no multiplatform support, but I guess that's partly a result of Microsoft making development tools so easily available.

I have to say, that's a smart move. I'm impressed. Impressed with that whole Network idea and I don't even play Rock Band. =O
 

Magik

Member
TheExodu5 said:
They're using XNA to make the tools available.

It's really too bad there's no multiplatform support, but I guess that's partly a result of Microsoft making development tools so easily available.

And probably making the dev tools so easy to use along with support.
 

Baker

Banned
RotBot said:
Does this mean artists can't give away free tracks or just the minimum price for paid songs is 50 cents?
I'm assuming they'll have to charge something since MTV/Harmonix will be putting their own resources into the creation.

If all the songs were free, they'd be paying the freelancers out of their own pockets.
 

Archie

Second-rate Anihawk
sykoex said:
Wow what a slap to Sony's face.
How is it a slap to Sony? Microsoft gave Harmonix the tools necessary to make this possible. Sony didn't, and PS3 owners are still getting the top tracks.
 
Omar Ismail said:
This could be as defining for the music game genre as iTunes has been for the music business in general.

It's a damn shame that I don't like the "feel" of Rock Band compared to GH :/

Well, iTunes has big bands. This is probably going to have the opposite.

This is cool for us people that play the games all the time, but most people don't want to be introduced to new bands, they want to play songs they know. I can't see many bands of note using this.
 
So much for the argument that these music games don't encourage people to take up playing an instrument in real life :lol

Good one Harmonix!
 

BJK

Member
Additionally, labels can either hire trained developers or school their existing employees to do the work in-house.
....
Another concern is ensuring that the playability of songs developed for the game through its namesake network will match the sophistication of those developed in-house. Selling songs that provide a sub-par playing experience would hurt the integrity of the "Rock Band" store and could drive labels away from the program.

If done well, by music and artists / labels alike, this is going to be great.

If not...then non-Harmonix Charted songs may well become the new "As made Famous by:" -- It's nice that they're there, but you'd rather that RB would release the good version of the songs.
 

ultron87

Member
Wow. This is pretty much amazing.

I guess Harmonix wasn't kidding around when they said they were working on something better as a means of music creation that what GH:WT had.
 
This is super cool, but it is pretty lame that it is 360 exclusive.... :(
I had wanted to play the ps3 version of Rock Band since it's easier to get MIDI drum kits on it.
 

KaYotiX

Banned
BJK said:
If done well, by music and artists / labels alike, this is going to be great.

If not...then non-Harmonix Charted songs may well become the new "As made Famous by:" -- It's nice that they're there, but you'd rather that RB would release the good version of the songs.

Well i think they get sent to HMX "testers" so if its horrible im sure they will say, "sorry try harder" at least i hope thats what will happen
 
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