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Rahxephon91 · 08:02 AM

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Setsuna was boring.I don't see how he developed at all, he was always the unattached guy that

Not to me. A traumatized soldier is pretty interesting. There's the scene where he is calm while sitting on a bench while there's chaos going on. A dream, but the point is he is very damaged goods. While obviously this deception of a child soldier could be a lot better, it still makes for a solid character. To say he has no development, I'm not sure. He defently learns to be less stand offish thanks to Lockon. And in S2 his character becomes more assertive in his actions. You see that in how he takes charge and deals with Saji. He kind of takes on the Lockon role with Saji, which is not something he would have done in S1.

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wants to become one with his machine or something because of what happened (something he'll never be able to do because G's mobile trace system will always be the closest the pilot can get to "being Gundam").

That's not really what this means. Setsuna sees the Gundam as a symbolic thing and it becomes kind of his god because well for him God must have abondend him/dosent exists. So to become Gundam, he means to take on the values he asscioates with the Gundam. Which of course means taking up justice.

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So all that happens is that he gets 10 different suits,

? He has two. 3 by that terrible movie.

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continues to use everybody's full name in every scene even after being with these people for years.

That's just the way he is. He is a detached person, which makes sense as he is a cold person thanks to being a child soldier. It's just an exaggerated character trait.

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He didn't get anywhere with that one princess or president or whatever she was who pretty much wanted to be with him but they were too tsundere about it the entire time.

I also find her character to be shitty and pointless. But I also don't understand where they were going. But pretty much after the first arc with her in S1 I really did'nt get any romantic angle with them. So it did'nt really bother me. I also don't know what tsundere means.

Etrian Oddity · (05-12-2012, 07:53 AM)

At least 00 has the best collection of openings in a Gundam series. All four are just top-notch (especially S2's).

Divvy · (05-12-2012, 09:18 AM)

Originally Posted by Etrian Oddity:

At least 00 has the best collection of openings in a Gundam series. All four are just top-notch (especially S2's).

Ash Like Snow is probably the best one in Gundam History. Soooo good and not just a collection of panning images.

SonicX_Zero · (05-12-2012, 12:21 PM)

Was it some inside joke that some characters tend to call another character with their full name?

Urban Scholar · (05-12-2012, 01:59 PM)

So does anyone know what's going on with Gundam Wing Glory of the Losers manga? I know it's going on still. I haven't seen any updates in a bit and was just wondering.

Lostconfused · 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by SonicX_Zero:

Was it some inside joke that some characters tend to call another character with their full name?

More like just a dumb joke. Only Setsuna and Tieria do that though.

Originally Posted by Divvy:

Ash Like Snow is probably the best one in Gundam History. Soooo good and not just a collection of panning images.

Sure I guess. As long as you ignore everything that aired before 2000.

Jubern · (05-12-2012, 03:54 PM)

Originally Posted by Urban Scholar:

So does anyone know what's going on with Gundam Wing Glory of the Losers manga? I know it's going on still. I haven't seen any updates in a bit and was just wondering.

~~I didn't follow the situation that much, but I guess Deacon & friends are simply falling behind? It was pretty incredible for them to always be up to date until recently.~~

I just checked Zeonic and it's up to date, so I'm not too sure of what you're talking about :x

Etrian Oddity · (05-12-2012, 04:32 PM)

Originally Posted by Lostconfused:

Sure I guess. As long as you ignore everything that aired before 2000.

J-pop from the 80s was absolutely terrible. :\

Gundam Wing was the only pre-2000 Gundam show whose opening I could stomach. Apart from that there's just way too much soft jpop... thank god Bandai realized an opening should pump you up for the episode, and switched to rock or techno for the most part.

Urban Scholar · (05-12-2012, 04:56 PM)

Originally Posted by Jubern:

~~I didn't follow the situation that much, but I guess Deacon & friends are simply falling behind? It was pretty incredible for them to always be up to date until recently.~~

I just checked Zeonic and it's up to date, so I'm not too sure of what you're talking about :x

lol I just checked now

Jubern · (05-12-2012, 05:32 PM)

Originally Posted by Etrian Oddity:

Gundam Wing was the only pre-2000 Gundam show whose opening I could stomach. Apart from that there's just way too much soft jpop... thank god Bandai realized an opening should pump you up for the episode, and switched to rock or techno for the most part.

Whaaaaaaaaa-?!

2000s Gundam OPs are MUCH more "jpop"-ish than 90s, I'm not sure what you're talking about?

I mean, seriously, we went from this:
Victory: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is7A_htB54g
G Gundam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odBK6h_mNX8
Gundam X: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ8XH5JGyzQ
Turn A: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpqwY7tsZS4

To this:
SEED: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM2MHApogGg
Destiny: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2b...?search_algo=1
or worst offender : http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xei...tiny-op-4_news
00 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7jAk-Ud9eM

Note that I'm not saying 90s OPs were better or anything (that's not my point), only that 2000s OPs are much more pop-ish and less original.

sixteen-bit · (05-12-2012, 06:07 PM)

The English Zeta OP1 is badass.
http://vimeo.com/17723693

TruePrime · (05-12-2012, 06:17 PM)

ZZ still has the best opening in Gundam and anyone who says otherwise should die.

J/K on the dying part, but when the switch from caveman through Amuro/Kamille/Judau was brillant and one of my favorite OP moments ever.

As for music, eh much prefered SEED's OP's in both music and overall content to OO's.

sixteen-bit · (05-12-2012, 06:21 PM)

Originally Posted by TruePrime:

ZZ still has the best opening in Gundam and anyone who says otherwise should die.

J/K on the dying part, but when the switch from caveman through Amuro/Kamille/Judau was brillant and one of my favorite OP moments ever.

As for music, eh much prefered SEED's OP's in both music and overall content to OO's.

one of my favorite Youtube comments:

I love how they imply that Judau is to Kamille as Kamille is to Amuro as Amuro is to CAVE MAN.

Rahxephon91 · (05-12-2012, 06:29 PM)

I like pretty much every Gundam op except Seed Destiny Op 3.

But in general Seed has my favorite ops.

Etrian Oddity · (05-12-2012, 08:07 PM)

Originally Posted by Jubern:

Whaaaaaaaaa-?!

2000s Gundam OPs are MUCH more "jpop"-ish than 90s, I'm not sure what you're talking about?

I mean, seriously, we went from this:
Victory: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is7A_htB54g
G Gundam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odBK6h_mNX8
Gundam X: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ8XH5JGyzQ
Turn A: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpqwY7tsZS4

To this:
SEED: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM2MHApogGg
Destiny: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2b...?search_algo=1
or worst offender : http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xei...tiny-op-4_news
00 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7jAk-Ud9eM

Note that I'm not saying 90s OPs were better or anything (that's not my point), only that 2000s OPs are much more pop-ish and less original.

J-pop =/= J-rock, as I'm sure you know. There's definitely a harder edge to the Seed, Destiny, and 00 intros (for the most part. Seed had a few stinkers).

I think what I was trying to get at is that the style of J-pop in the 80s and 90s were just so obscenely "poppy" to me due to their instrument arrangements and vocals. And the extremely soft female vocals. :l I think it's just more of the difference in generational composition technique... I actually really enjoyed Destiny's 4th op (which you so ardently called out, haha).

donkey show · (05-12-2012, 08:22 PM)

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I actually really enjoyed Destiny's 4th op (which you so ardently called out, haha).

Oh god, what's wrong with you? xD

I remember when that started playing and my wife (gf back then) heard it and asked wtf I was watching. I told her it was Gundam and she said that's not what she would expect from a Gundam intro at all and shook her head, lol.

Jubern · (05-12-2012, 08:37 PM)

I don't hate the song or anything either, and I actually love the one this band made for Unicorn (Merry Go Round), but as Donkey said it was probably the worst match ever for a Gundam OP. It haunts me to this day.

I also see what you mean about the music style, different tastes for different people I guess. I'll still stand by my opinion that J-"rock" and especially the popular kind of music you hear in anime is really more pop than rock, thus my earlier point (should have left the "j" out I suppose). But its okay, I don't really want to have a fight about music categorization x)
And as a matter of fact I'm a sucker this kind of music. You should see me singing at a karaoke.

sixteen-bit · (05-12-2012, 11:06 PM)

This site does really impressive papercrafts.

Divvy · (05-12-2012, 11:15 PM)

Originally Posted by Lostconfused:

Sure I guess. As long as you ignore everything that aired before 2000.

Hey, I liked those too, but Ash Like Snow is pretty unique. It's got a really good song, has actual original animation, introduces all the characters and outlines the actual plot of the arc (The desert operation, fighting the thrones), and lack of stupid naked spacetime. If you just seperate it from whatever opinions you might have of OO, it's actually a really really good OP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xChqT5_o50o

Blackheim · (05-12-2012, 11:22 PM)

I like the Gundam songs Andrew W.K. covered >_> Aside from those, I like The See-Saw & Chiaki Ishikawa songs used:

See-Saw

Chiaki Ishikawa: Prototype & Mou Nanimo Kowakunai, Kowaku wa Nai

Kinda biased though, love her and have bought all of her albums (as well as See-Saw) + a bunch of singles <_<

TruePrime · (05-12-2012, 11:23 PM)

Originally Posted by _dementia:

This site does really impressive papercrafts.

Saw some of these on Gundamguy. The Nu and Wing Gundam Zero EW are freaking crazy good.

Ezalc · (05-12-2012, 11:38 PM)

Originally Posted by _dementia:

This site does really impressive papercrafts.

This is a papercraft?! Holy shit man.

AdmiralSnackbar · (05-12-2012, 11:55 PM)

I have to give credit to 00 for having one of the most amazing/cheesy/awful/brilliant revelations of anything ever, when Louise explains why she can't wear the ring.

Femmeworth · (05-13-2012, 12:15 AM)

Originally Posted by _dementia:

This site does really impressive papercrafts.

*jaw drops* Damn.

Jubern · (05-13-2012, 12:39 AM)

Originally Posted by _dementia:

This site does really impressive papercrafts.

What the fuck?

Originally Posted by Blackheim:

I like the Gundam songs Andrew W.K. covered >_> Aside from those, I like The See-Saw & Chiaki Ishikawa songs used:

See-Saw

Chiaki Ishikawa: Prototype & Mou Nanimo Kowakunai, Kowaku wa Nai

Kinda biased though, love her and have bought all of her albums (as well as See-Saw) + a bunch of singles <_<

I wouldn't say that loving Ishikawa's songs is "biaised", they are definitely some of the best one in recent Gundam memory :')

duckroll · (05-13-2012, 10:11 AM)

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Gundam Unicorn Vol.6 = Spring 2013. They also announced a Gundam Unicorn Vol.7, which will be over one hour long. That will be the climax.

donkey show · (05-13-2012, 10:27 AM)

Originally Posted by duckroll:

Gundam Unicorn Vol.6 = Spring 2013. They also announced a Gundam Unicorn Vol.7, which will be over one hour long. That will be the climax.

Wat? 6 is basically a year away? :(

Femmeworth · (05-13-2012, 10:30 AM)

They really should just kill AGE and focus everything on Unicorn.

duckroll · (05-13-2012, 10:36 AM)

Originally Posted by donkey show:

Wat? 6 is basically a year away? :(

Bandai might be trying to spread out their OVA profits. They have Code Geass Akito the Exiled coming up, and based on the information the composer leaked, we can expect 4 volumes, each about an hour long (just like Unicorn), and they're apparently being released 3 months apart starting from some time in August or later (Aug 4 is when they will screen Vol1 in theatrical events like UC). So that's going to cover them until Spring 2013.

After that I'm sure they expect Vol6 and Vol7 to both be released within that financial year, which could give a HUGE boost to their profits even if they have nothing else big in that period in terms of home video releases.

Mr. Pointy · (05-13-2012, 11:02 AM)

>Ep. 7 rainbow psychoframe energy poster

Don't tell me we're THAT ending?

Jubern · (05-13-2012, 11:42 AM)

Well, the last two volumes are called "Over the rainbow".

Doing one episode for volume 8 and then a longer one for 9&10 was the logical way to do it IMO, so no big surprise.

But a year until episode 6 is pretty harsh. I can understand why they did that but ugh.

Kincaido · (05-13-2012, 11:45 AM)

It's a long wait for sure. Hopefully the long wait and extra episode means that they won't stray too far from the novel like episode 4.

Jube3 · (05-13-2012, 11:52 AM)

Man those papercraft Gundams are insane.

I recently picked up the HGUC Kshatriya which is going to be my first attempt at a fully painted kit. I wanted to have a companion to my MG Sinanju that matched so I decided to try and match the titanium look. I'm happy with how its coming out so far, I used an airbrush paint called Alclad II (glossy black and chrome) along with Tamiya Clear red after the chrome dried to try and get the Titanium finish. I've made some mistakes which I plan on fixing up but so far so good I think. Anyone have any recommendations for a nice gold paint? Im using Tamiya Gold leaf but its not as shiny as I would like it to be.

Here is what I have so far (excuse the bad quality pics). First shot shows the external parts laid out on my desk(inner frame is still on the racks), next two shots are the parts drying outside with the first coat of Alclad II glossy black , then we have the wing/funnel thing with the chrome paint applied, and the last picture is with Tamiya Clear red applied.

SonicX_Zero · (05-13-2012, 12:11 PM)

Gundam AGE 31

High speed desert battle? Pffft... just blow the shit out of everything Seravee style.lol Also the preview for the next ep. was pretty 'subtle'. =T

sixteen-bit · (05-13-2012, 01:09 PM)

Nice WIP Jube3. I hope one day they give us an MG Kshatriya.

Jube3 · (05-13-2012, 09:06 PM)

Originally Posted by _dementia:

Nice WIP Jube3. I hope one day they give us an MG Kshatriya.

Thanks! Yea I would really like a MG version of this kit, however if size is a concern the HG is about the size of a MG Zaku so its pretty big for a HG. I am not sure where they got the information from, but I read (on eclipse gundam I believe it was) that there wouldn't be a MG Kshatriya because the inner frame would have to be metal to support the size of the kit and that would make it too expensive. Not sure what source that came from though.

Have you tried to Panel line the Heavy arms yet? I dunno if you have tried lining with a gundam marker before, but if you do not like the outcome it comes off with alcohol and a Qtip/cloth without a problem.

Blader5489 · (05-14-2012, 01:36 AM)

Originally Posted by donkey show:

Wat? 6 is basically a year away? :(

Makes sense if they're rewriting it so that 6 doesn't have to be the final episode.

Still though. :\

distantmantra · (05-14-2012, 06:48 PM)

Not sure if anyone will see it now that the OT is buried in community...

Gundam UC (PS3) is $39.90 now.
http://www.play-asia.com/Mobile_Suit...n-70-4gr9.html

Jubern · (05-14-2012, 07:58 PM)

Still is 64.90 for me...

distantmantra · (05-14-2012, 07:59 PM)

Originally Posted by Jubern:

Still is 64.90 for me...

I can't check the link at work, but the Asian version was on sale for $39.90 last night and earlier today. I wonder if it sold out?

Jubern · (05-14-2012, 08:45 PM)

Ah, that's likely it. It currently shows "Takes 5 to 15 days to ship".

distantmantra · (05-14-2012, 08:47 PM)

Originally Posted by Jubern:

Ah, that's likely it. It currently shows "Takes 5 to 15 days to ship".

Ah... yeah, sold out then. I know Bepbo got in on it.

Kincaido · (05-14-2012, 10:17 PM)

There's actually someone on Amazon selling the Asian version for $60. It has the Japanese version's picture though. I would buy it, but I want the Japanese version for consistency with my collection. Good thing I emailed him to be sure or else I would've been a bit annoyed if I bought it.

distantmantra · (05-14-2012, 11:02 PM)

I've had a lot of fun with the game. Almost done with the platinum trophy.

The LE bonus stuff is nice, too. Haven't seen that on massive bomba clearance online, though.

Dedication Through Light · (05-15-2012, 12:30 AM)

Gundam Age 31

Desert battle reminded me of 00 for some reason but the G-Hopper blaster weapon was epic. Entire desert gone!. Kind of liked the plot. Though only criticism is that Shanalua is pretty obviously seen as a traitor or such, they could have hid it better than that.

Also WootBit has to be the oddest name in this series.

When do they tell us the next tv gundam? When this gen 3 finishes Ill be ready for more (same art style?)

Blader5489 · (05-15-2012, 12:32 AM)

Originally Posted by Dedication Through Light:

When do they tell us the next tv gundam?

Probably not until next year.

Lostconfused · (05-15-2012, 12:47 PM)

The game comes out in August? I would think the anime would probably run to the end of summer at least.

B.K. · (05-15-2012, 09:27 PM)

Originally Posted by Dedication Through Light:

When do they tell us the next tv gundam?

They've already said they're animating Gundam: The Origin. Hopefully it'll be the next TV Gundam!

Dedication Through Light · (05-15-2012, 09:44 PM)

Originally Posted by B.K.:

They've already said they're animating Gundam: The Origin. Hopefully it'll be the next TV Gundam!

The Origin? Isnt Age an origin story, or for that matter Gundam 00? Unless Im missing something, all those were the first time people saw Gundams?

Blader5489 · (05-15-2012, 09:49 PM)

Originally Posted by Dedication Through Light:

The Origin? Isnt Age an origin story, or for that matter Gundam 00? Unless Im missing something, all those were the first time people saw Gundams?

"The Origin" is a manga retelling of the original Mobile Suit Gundam series; Sunrise is working on animating it, though it hasn't been announced if it'll be a tv series or an OVA.