Sega accidentally leaks minutes of meeting with SCEA - PS2 emulation & more discussed

[gofreak]

Hmm, so it's not April 1..

This link is still live as of right now:

ftp://segapr.segaamerica.com/SEGA_Ne...Notes%20BH.doc

Meeting was Aug 5.

The notes; I've bolded some of the more interesting bits:

SCEA Meeting Aug 5th Notes Aug 6 2009 – DRAFT FOR COMMENTS Objectives of Meeting Dyer agreed to regular quarterly meetings with SOA Sony PS3 SCEA reiterated plans to sell 13 million PS3s this year Big announcement back half of year they can’t talk about (potentially price cut of PS3 to reach hardware goals) SCEA commented on indexing between PS3 and 360 SKUs, should be around 2:1 to garner most favorable treatment. Motion Controller Spring 2010 launch (March in JP) No bundle/pricing details yet, should come Sept 1 Plan on selling 4-5MM units WW SCEA agreed to provide a list of Sega IP that would work well with the motion controller, Virtua Tennis was an example Motion Controller support allows easy way to differentiate PS3 SKU Other differentiation opportunities include PSP/PS3 interoperability – think of features that would make users want to buy both PS3 and PSP SKUs. Alpha Protocol Michael Foster, product evaluator, said AP felt barely RPG. Initial level too challenging for players. “Mass Effect felt more RPG.” Review notes sent to John Merlino a few weeks prior. After meeting Gerald mentioned AP is a high priority for his team. Planet 51 Sell in of PS3 SKU – SCEA noted that other movie titles on PS3 had underperformed as well (inc. Transformers) this cycle. Dyer suggests contacting Susan at Walmart and asking what she wants in the pack to sell this SKU (movie tix etc) Other possibilities are Hybrid movie disc (BD 25 or 50 with Game and Movie on same disc). Bayonetta Collectors edition with Bayonetta Action Figure Novo recommended launching PSN demo around Xmas based off a Jan 5th Ship date with 2-3 week run out to launch. 3-4 weeks is usually ideal demo timing with fresh content every week leading up to launch (trailers, insider video about PG heritage, video blogs). Vancouver 2010 HOME, Olympic destination would garner a lot of positive attention from SCEA Should be doing same with Bayonetta, Marvel etc. Easy to launch in all territories. HOME merchandizing opportunities (clothes etc). Sonic Racing Open to DLC to differentiate PS3 SKU – not ratchet and clank but other characters maybe characters from Rare or Fable universes Yakuza Could put Japanese games directly on PSN for download in a special Japanese Import section (pricing $9.99 to $39.99 for full game). Might need to localize menus at least with subtitles. SCEA interested in helping on MKTG side if they can have period of exclusivity. AVP Another great HOME candidate AVP avatars Hybrid BD disc with movie Iron Man 2 Great candidate for HOME space – explore Tony Stark’s lab etc. Should have one for Marvel in general. PSU2 Could do bundle at GameStop with PSP 30-35K units on UMD, Go, or both. Valkyria 1937 Could bundle with PSP as well. Vanquish and Aliens: CM Opportunity for PS3/PSP interoperability (see Eidos Batman, Army of Two, Assassin’s Creed for good examples). If we offer that SCEA would be really interested in having us at their booth next E3. Thor SCEA would like a look at the code soon. Sonic Anniversary Could put out collectors edition with all old sonic games on one BD disc. “Best of Sonic” for around $99. SCEA would love PSN exclusive power ups/different game modes (like Castlevania’s flip it over/backwards) PS2 emulator for PS3 (confidential) SCEA wants to sell all PS2 titles on PSN (GTA Vice City/Sonic/etc) For co Marketing money show PS3 controller on TV ads – similar to EA Madden Spots, NCAA, etc… London Olympics Perfect opportunity for Motion Controller integration. DC Digital Titles If we provide a list of DC titles SCEA will let us know which ones they’re interested in having exclusively. If we give them a long period of exclusivity they’ll give us more marketing support. PSP Titles For SKU differentiation it’s best to offer features that are slightly different from PS3 version. Titles that are coming up on PSP are Assassin’s Creed II, GTA China Wars, Resident Evil, Little Big Planet – all massive franchises. SCEA has a specific PSP deck which they can send up with their hardware director for a chat.

Spotted via: http://www.objectif-sega.com/+Exclu+...-news-1637.htm

The mention of 'rare and fable universes' is perplexing unless that was a confused annotation by the sega person!

[HUELEN10]

Looks like it is down, it is for me at least.

Way to ninja it OP!

[navii]

bold some shit please

[Cosmonaut X]

[Tain]

Initial level too challenging for players.

You probably had to press two buttons at once or something.

[tribal24]

YES!!!! if true?-_-

[Chinner]

yeah 'leaked' sure.

[Jet Grind Radio!]

=o @ Sonic Anniversary. If it comes with Sonic CD and the Saturn games, I'm muthafuckin' down.

[HUELEN10]

HOLY SHIT, SONIC ANNIVERSARY!?!??!?!?!?!

OP, is this really real? Please upload the .doc somewhere! You said it was live when you posted this thread, you must have the file!

It still seems fishy to me though, especially the "Fable" and "Rachet & Clank" parts...

[Tailzo]

If the YAKUZA part is true... OMG!!!!

[JustAnotherOtaku]

Yakuza Could put Japanese games directly on PSN for download in a special Japanese Import section (pricing $9.99 to $39.99 for full game). Might need to localize menus at least with subtitles.

This is very interesting. I'm guessing this is where the Yakuza 3 localization story originated from?

[kazuma_pt]

awesome if true

[Nuclear Muffin]

Oh shit, DC & PS2 games on PSN. Yes please

Hey, maybe Sonic Adventure DX was trademarked again for inclusion on the Sonic collection?

[speedpop]

Yakuza Could put Japanese games directly on PSN for download in a special Japanese Import section (pricing $9.99 to $39.99 for full game). Might need to localize menus at least with subtitles. SCEA interested in helping on MKTG side if they can have period of exclusivity.

This would be awesome.

[pswii60]

lol :)

[trudderham]

Every PS2 game emulated on PSN? Damn, if true that's another reason for me to pick up a PS3 this Xmas!

[Steroyd]

The mention of 'rare and fable universes' is perplexing unless that was a confused annotation by the sega person!

Rare or fable universes, a bit like when Star Wars met Soul Calibur, or Greek Mythology ala kratos.

At least that's how I think it's supposed to be read, I probably came to the same conclusion as you when I first read that.

[Nuclear Muffin]

HOLY SHIT, SONIC ANNIVERSARY!?!??!?!?!?! OP, is this really real? Please upload the .doc somewhere! You said it was live when you posted this thread, you must have the file! It still seems fishy to me though, especially the "Fable" and "Rachet & Clank" parts...

The .doc is still up, I've got it. None of these things are set in stone though, these are things that were suggested at the meeting.

[gofreak]

HOLY SHIT, SONIC ANNIVERSARY!?!??!?!?!?! OP, is this really real? Please upload the .doc somewhere! You said it was live when you posted this thread, you must have the file! It still seems fishy to me though, especially the "Fable" and "Rachet & Clank" parts...

Gimme a few minutes, I'll upload the original somewhere.

[-Winnie-]

Oh wow.

I was able to download the .doc, but everything is in the OP anyway.

[CTLance]

Iiiiinteresting.

I still very much doubt they can get a true PS2 emulator to run on stock PS3s, but eh, I'd love to be proven wrong. Maybe with some extensive patching and custom emu builds? Who knows.

That PSN store import section sounds awesome. I hope it comes to be.

[Strider2K99]

:o if true.

Lots of juicy stuff if any of it comes to fruition.

[HUELEN10]

That PSN store import section sounds awesome. I hope it comes to be.

Ate, not just for PS3, but for PSP as well. I would love a 2nd copy of Project DIVA!

[KillerAJD]

Holy shit...looks like Sony really wants its piece of the pie back.
What does this mean though?
"SCEA interested in helping on MKTG side if they can have period of exclusivity."

[Acosta]

Could put Japanese games directly on PSN for download in a special Japanese Import section (pricing $9.99 to $39.99 for full game).

Wow, I was thinking yesterday that having Yakuza 1 and Yakuza 2 through PSN would be the best scenario possible for Yakuza 3. I am glad they are thinking on that line.

[Bernbaum]

SCEA wants to sell all PS2 titles on PSN (GTA Vice City/Sonic/etc)

Interesting.

[Foliorum Viridum]

Dreamcast titles?

Motherfucking yes. Get Shenmue 1 and 2 up on PSN, then get Sony to fund the final chapter.

/Delusion.

[Hero]

So did Sony take out PS2 backwards compatibility so they can sell PS2 games as downloadables on PSN?

[bloke]

Yakuza Could put Japanese games directly on PSN for download in a special Japanese Import section (pricing $9.99 to $39.99 for full game). Might need to localize menus at least with subtitles. SCEA interested in helping on MKTG side if they can have period of exclusivity.

Why are they talking about exclusivity, is Sega planning putting Yakuza on XBLA too?

[PG2G]

Every PS2 game emulated on PSN? Damn, if true that's another reason for me to pick up a PS3 this Xmas!

I can't imagine why anyone would be happy knowing that Sony removed BC, found a way to bring it back, but will only do so if you rebuy every game you wanted to play.

[Grayman]

Holy shit...looks like Sony really wants its piece of the pie back. What does this mean though? "SCEA interested in helping on MKTG side if they can have period of exclusivity."

MKTG = marketing.

[spats]

Oh boy. How soon will it become standard practise that something isn't leaked?

[laserbeam]

Holy shit...looks like Sony really wants its piece of the pie back. What does this mean though? "SCEA interested in helping on MKTG side if they can have period of exclusivity."

Buying Timed exclusivity.

[CTLance]

I only see a README file in that directory, and a welcome.txt (as well as a bunch of subfolders of course).

...

The readme is a sendmail config file, and the welcome.txt lists some digicam photo filenames. WTF?

[gofreak]

There's a rapidshare mirror here that's good for 10 downloads, in case the original link gets pulled:

http://rapidshare.com/files/28337887...es_BH.doc.html

[Goldrusher]

Interesting.

[patsu]

Why are they talking about exclusivity, is Sega planning putting Yakuza on XBLA too?

...probably exclusive from retailer perspective.

[jiggle]

skies of arcadia please :O

[painful fart]

"SCEA commented on indexing between PS3 and 360 SKUs, should be around 2:1 to garner most favorable treatment."

What does this mean in plain English?

[McBacon]

Opportunity for PS3/PSP interoperability (see Eidos Batman, Army of Two, Assassin’s Creed for good examples).

Batman PSP?!

[KillerAJD]

MKTG = marketing.

Ah, thank you. I wonder if the "exclusive" means platform wise (probably most likely) or territory wise (although I don't see why Sega or Sony want to cannibalize sales....though Sega did do that with Outrun) or even like patsu suggested, retailer exclusivity.

[obaidr]

Oh boy. How soon will it become standard practise that something isn't leaked?

well you know, it is SONY they cant get anything secrete these days. Even if it was sega in this case.

[jim-jam bongs]

PS2 emulator for PS3 (confidential) SCEA wants to sell all PS2 titles on PSN (GTA Vice City/Sonic/etc)

While I don't speak for everyone that would certainly tip me over the edge. That's a massive library to make available at your fingertips.

[Datrio]

Here's a copy of the document:

http://w697.wrzuta.pl/sr/f/6EjlFpecG...g_5th_notes_bh

[buffi]

[gofreak]

I should have put the prospect of DC titles on PSN in the thread title too, but I didn't actually notice that until now... that could be very sweet.

[radioheadrule83]

Every PS2 game emulated on PSN? Damn, if true that's another reason for me to pick up a PS3 this Xmas!

What if you have to buy and download the games?

Doesn't seem likely though... I wonder how they'd implement it?

I don't like reading all the marketing negotiations. The nature of discussions might be an eye-opener for MS/Nintendo.

[HUELEN10]

There's a rapidshare mirror here that's good for 10 downloads, in case the original link gets pulled: http://rapidshare.com/files/28337887...es_BH.doc.html

http://www.mediafire.com/?mnz2ydeznjz
Here's a mediafire mirror just incase as well.

[iconoclast]

A Japanese Import section on PSN would be fucking awesome.

[HUELEN10]

A Japanese Import section on PSN would be fucking awesome.

I couldn't resist.