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Sega accidentally leaks minutes of meeting with SCEA - PS2 emulation & more discussed
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intheinbetween
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Shard said:
yeah, that was funny :lol
The PS2 GPU is a too weird of a beast to be emulated straight on by the PS3. Also, moreso than the PS3, the PS2 was designed around having tons of data streaming around several components in tandem and the GPU memory was accessed at much lower levels by many games (example: uploading new textures mid-frame).CTLance said:
Without aid of hardware a per-game solution, Xbox-style, is the best way to go. A customized emulator for each game, with game specific hacks, and maybe re-written pieces of code. By making it download-only Sony can then avoid several problematic games and tackle the others case by case.
So this is like the 20th time that something leaks from SEGA's FTP. This probably wasn't a big deal if it was just the new Sonic or something but I bet Sony's pretty pissed. Maybe this is where all the prior Sony E3 leaks came from too. Just some Sega guy uploading notes while singing Live & Leak.
Junpei Heat
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Phantast2k
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what the fuck? It's like Sony wants to please gaf or something? :lol
Wouldn't believe it for a second if it wasn't on the sega ftp..
Wouldn't believe it for a second if it wasn't on the sega ftp..
SecretBonusPoint
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Oh Sega! :lol
Some good stuff in there ranging from Yakuza offers, PS2 emulation and DC ports. And above all that I see HUELEN10 is just excited about another compilation of shitty Sonic games. Thats quite a sickness you've got kid! One day we're gonna have to see about getting you fixed somehow!
Some good stuff in there ranging from Yakuza offers, PS2 emulation and DC ports. And above all that I see HUELEN10 is just excited about another compilation of shitty Sonic games. Thats quite a sickness you've got kid! One day we're gonna have to see about getting you fixed somehow!
ShinobiFist
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I really hope SEGA goes through with that "Import section" on PSN. And hopefully other companies follow. Something like this would be great on LIVE as well(Looking at you Cave)C'mon SEGA, VF5R!
ConradCervantes
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Gee, I can't wait to hear what Kotaku has to say about this next Tuesday!
intheinbetween
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Darkpen said:
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6158075.html
i also remember some other site leaking MS/Activision info about avatars, lips mics, and other stuff. that was hilarious as well
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3168242
APZonerunner
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So... is it safe to assume Sega have had this exact same meeting with Microsoft based on the weird out-of-nowhere mention of Rare characters & Fable characters for Sonic racing and what someone said in this thread about hearing the same DC discussion on the Xbox side?
Wow, this generation has been terrible with keeping things secret. If the internet has created anything, it's people that are quick at finding stuff.
I would go with the PS2 shop thingy though - I have a few PS2 games still but some of them don't work (Kingdom Hearts) and there's been a shit-ton of stuff I missed out on. Good job if this goes through, Sony!
I would go with the PS2 shop thingy though - I have a few PS2 games still but some of them don't work (Kingdom Hearts) and there's been a shit-ton of stuff I missed out on. Good job if this goes through, Sony!
HUELEN10
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mclem said:
I can agree with that. Sony doesn't need DC exclusives to differentiate their digital content offerings - bring us PSone and PS2 stuff to do that pls! I guess, though, if they think MS would go for exclusives they might feel they need to too.
Ideally 360 and PS3 would have (all) DC titles on their platforms. Then Sony should concentrate on getting (all) PSone/PS2 titles on theirs.
One box that has PSone/PS2/PS3/DC/PSN games & more besides is a nice vision Sony should pursue.
CrashPrime
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Darkpen said:
There wasn't anything game changing leaked, just some news of the massively speculated upon PS2 backwards compatability, and a little blip about niche japanese game imports.
The news of downloadable Dreamcast games being leaked is more of a Sega issue. They would care more about this, considering they were talking exclusivity deals with Sony.
Panajev2001a
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M3d10n said:
Especially when Performance Analyzer devices are still working and people with experience using it can be asked to provide help with testing games to provide feedback data for the per title optimized emulators (for many games you should also have the source code available too).
Edit: re-written pieces of code as in dynamic patching?
Segata Sanshiro
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It's clearly fake though. We all know Sony doesn't moneyhat exclusives.
killer7ITA
Banned
I want to believe... XD
DangerousDave
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WhiteAce said:
If it's fake, it's a fake done by Sega (or an evil hacker that has been able to post that document in their site). I'll bet for the Occam razor.
Panajev2001a said:
They'll never get to 'all' PS2 titles with per-title emu though.
Maybe they could have an emulator that works 'OK' with some larger swathe of titles and then will have to work on a per title basis with the rest.
I dunno. It'll be interesting to see what comes of this, at least we know for sure now that they do appear to be trying to pursue a software emulation solution for PS2 (be it per title, general or a bit of both).
BlueTsunami
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Hmmm, just like every PS1 game is on PSN. Hurrr hurrr. Stop playing with ma' heart Sony </3
painful fart
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I´d venture to guess that the next generation PSP will run download PS2 titles from the get go.gofreak said:
I was actually baffled they are already considering download PS2 titles on PSN, I thought this was at least a couple of years away, thought they were saving it to coincide with next gen PSP so the games could be treated the same way as PSOne titles are today. The PS2 hw still generates revenues as well.
The God of War remastered collection set the bar for PS2 "per-title emulation." If they go down the route of per-title, and they don't render at at least720p w/ 2xAA, then fuck it. If they do, then I have a freaking christmas list of high-texture PS2 games I want to see in HD glory, which includes MGS3 and FFXII
leroy hacker
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ShinobiFist said:
It would be great, but MS rejected DoDonPachi Dai Ou Jou Black Label X and Ketsui X for XBLA last year.
Foliorum Viridum
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How much work is it to get a PS2 title to run in 720p with added AA etc? Too much to expect it as standard?Darkpen said:The God of War remastered collection set the bar for PS2 "per-title emulation." If they go down the route of per-title, and they don't render at at least720p w/ 2xAA, then fuck it. If they do, then I have a freaking christmas list of high-texture PS2 games I want to see in HD glory, which includes MGS3 and FFXII
painful fart said:
It makes sense to have a deal-y twixt ps3 and the next psp similar to psone games with psp and ps3 (i.e. playable between both, buy one copy to play on both).
As for timing...now that they are probably hoping PS3 will start to 'take over' PS2 more significantly, they might feel time is right to make moves on this. But never too early anyway to start preparing or certainly to be doing tech work on it.
Foliorum Viridum said:
I think it is. I think the God of War collection is a special case. AFAIK it's not even remotely 'emulated' but a full port.
Making a general system emulator that might have 'per title' profiles for certain more challenging games is another matter altogether, completely different kettle of fish than putting a studio to work on a port. Given PSone emu, given that it's just emulated 'as is' with no bells and whistles, expecting more out of any kind of PS2 emu seems very hopeful to say the least!
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