[Firestorm]

Read some impressions that they were. So all menu controls in battle and out of battle are d-pad only.

what the fuck
how
god

Ok. I need to head to EB before the game comes out.

[Kagari]

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/106/1061287p1.html

IGN preview.

Both PS3s and 360s were being used to show off the game, which was great as I was able to see both versions running side-by-side. As expected, the 360 version was noticeably less crisp than its PS3 counterpart, but it still ran nicely.

[Dark FaZe]

I was actually a fan of almost every voice I heard in the trailer...but what the fuck is going on there and why should I want it? This is such a far cry from VI, VII, VIII, IX and XII. It's got similarities to FFX from what I can see so I can only hope it'll at least be as good as that.

[TheJollyCorner]

Just saw the trailer. Goddamn that was disgusting. I hope this putrid filth bombs in the west. Hopefully it will knock some sense into SE.

:lol some of you absolutely fuckin' kill me

[Kagari]

I was actually a fan of almost every voice I heard in the trailer...but what the fuck is going on there and why should I want it? This is such a far cry from VI, VII, VIII, IX and XII. It's got similarities to FFX from what I can see so I can only hope it'll at least be as good as that.

It's essentially FFX-3.

[Volcynika]

:lol some of you absolutely fuckin' kill me

Stuff like that is why I love GAF :lol

[Kagari]

what the fuck how god Ok. I need to head to EB before the game comes out.

Unfortunately the menu options in the game are barebones. You can't even change music and voice volume.

[Shadowlink]

Just the menu controls? I thought he was talking about the whole damn game. :lol

[RPGCrazied]

less crisp? oh who cares, long as it doesn't have massive fps drop or screen tearing.. I'm good.

[Tokyo Rain]

It sounds like the voice acting was done where each line of dialog was individual and not part of a scene and they just slapped it all together at the end. That never works.

The actors themselves have nice voices (well except fang, she sounds retarded).

[Shadowlink]

less crisp? oh who cares, long as it doesn't have massive fps drop or screen tearing.. I'm good.

This! I don't think I'll even notice it.

[expy]

This! I don't think I'll even notice it.

Of course you won't, unless you've played the other version.

[Mandoric]

Just the menu controls? I thought he was talking about the whole damn game. :lol

So, just to clarify. All character movement is with the stick. All UI movement is with the pad.
now if only there was anywhere in the game where you got to use both at the same time. fucking juggernaut AoEs. :lol

[Shadowlink]

Of course you won't, unless you've played the other version.

Yeah I guess, but then it's only a little less crisp, and a little isn't a lot. I don't know what I'm talking about. :lol

So, just to clarify. All character movement is with the stick. All UI movement is with the pad. now if only there was anywhere in the game where you got to use both at the same time. fucking juggernaut AoEs. :lol

Pretty stupid of them to do that when the 360 d-pad sucks. I don't think it will be a huge deal though since it's just for menus, but it would of been fucking horrible if we have to use the dpad for movements.

[Kagari]

Yeah I guess, but then it's only a little less crisp, and a little isn't a lot. I don't know what I'm talking about. :lol Pretty stupid of them to do that when the 360 d-pad sucks. I don't think it will be a huge deal though since it's just for menus, but it would of been fucking horrible if we have to use the dpad for movements.

You do, in battle. The d-pad is used to switch roles and is very fast-paced. I found my self switching sometimes several times per battle.

[teiresias]

You do, in battle. The d-pad is used to switch roles and is very fast-paced. I found my self switching sometimes several times per battle.

I think he's concerned with moving your character around on the map. Have any of the Final Fantasy games ever mapped UI controls to the stick?

[Kagari]

I think he means moving your character around on the map.

You use the stick for that, which is no big deal when you're running down straight paths most of the time.

[h3ro]

You do, in battle. The d-pad is used to switch roles and is very fast-paced. I found my self switching sometimes several times per battle.

See now... that stinks.

[Shadowlink]

You do, in battle. The d-pad is used to switch roles and is very fast-paced. I found my self switching sometimes several times per battle.

Shit! I can see myself having a problem with this.

You use the stick for that, which is no big deal when you're running down straight paths most of the time.

Oh good! Using the dpad would of sucked.

[ruxtpin]

Alright. So I play the FF series here and there. Never played 7 (I know, everyone let out a collective gasp,) but I did get through 9, 10, and some of 12 (which I need to go back and finish.) But that new English trailer has sold me on 13. :D

Cannot wait.

[Firestorm]

Now I'm torn again. Argh. How hard is it to just map them to both.
They must have really wanted to control the experience.

[BocoDragon]

Using the analog stick for menus has always been retarded anyway. It's like using analog stick for 2D fighters.. It's actually a binary control scheme (on/off: no in between) so using the stick just handicaps how fast you can navigate. Just use the d-pad.

[Shadowlink]

SQUARE! Where the hell is my Versus XIII info?

[Replicant]

You act like the Japanese cast was full of some really great voice acting or something.

LOL what are you? NA voice actors PR? In comparison to the English VAs, I'd say yeah. Most Japanese VAs have a ton more experience in comparison to the English VAs mostly because the VA field in Japan is a major business.

I like the music in FFXIII a lot, but I can't stand "kimi ga iru kara". It is just throwaway J-Pop. That isn't to say the English tune is some amazing masterpiece, but I think it is at least on the same level if not better than the Japanese counterpart.

So someone else like "Kimi ga iru kara" better. How did that ruin your day?

[Kagari]

Now I'm torn again. Argh. How hard is it to just map them to both. They must have really wanted to control the experience.

In battle you need precise control of the d-pad that the analog sticks just can't do quick enough.

[Shadowlink]

LOL what are you? NA voice actors PR? In comparison to the English VAs, I'd say yeah. Most Japanese VAs have a ton more experience in comparison to the English VAs mostly because the VA field in Japan is a major business.

Or it's the fact that the script sucks and most people who imported the game don't really understand Japanese.

[Gamer @ Heart]

So how are the trophies in this game? Not impossible i hope? I cant imagine doing more than 1 playthrough so i hope its possible in one.

[Kagari]

So how are the trophies in this game? Not impossible i hope? I cant imagine doing more than 1 playthrough so i hope its possible in one.

You get a majority of them just by playing through the story. The other ones aren't too hard to obtain except for the ridiculous 'hold every weapon and accessory' one.

[VindicatorZ]

Dysley's voice in the trailer I think sounds alot like Bergans in FFXII. Very good thing.

[Firestorm]

In battle you need precise control of the d-pad that the analog sticks just can't do quick enough.

Yeah but on the 360 the D-Pad is even worse (placement too).

[Max@GC]

Just saw the trailer. Goddamn that was disgusting. I hope this putrid filth bombs in the west. Hopefully it will knock some sense into SE.

Just saw it too...dude...it was even cheesier than Twilight. I don´t get it how anyone could identify or sympathize with these corny and superficial characters.

[scotcheggz]

I didn't think the voice acting was that bad personally. As a Brit, sometimes the hammed up US accents in RPGs can really get on my tits, but these seemed ok, 1 or 2 borderline, but all fine in all.

As for the actual substance though... DONT YOU EVEN! :lol Quite embarrasing. I'm pretty much pinning all hope on the battle system. I've heard that's fun though so fingers crossed.

Anyon eelse think that song with that trailer seemed a lot like those horrible YouTube "tribute" videos of older FF games?! :lol

[danwarb]

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/106/1061287p1.html IGN preview.

I'd expect the video cut-scenes to be much less "crisp" on DVD, but if they're commenting on in-game visuals there, I wonder what they meant.

[Mandoric]

LOL what are you? NA voice actors PR? In comparison to the English VAs, I'd say yeah. Most Japanese VAs have a ton more experience in comparison to the English VAs mostly because the VA field in Japan is a major business.

A major business full of people whose prime qualifications are "looks good in an upside-down swimsuit" or "spent seven digits in tuition at Y*y*gi", and who make $50-$100 per diem. :lol

That's not to say that there isn't a bigger pool of midtier talent, and you don't have to try a bit harder to make something truly horrid. But it's not like it's impossible to get a lot of voiceover experience in the US, and easily 75% of the battle is voice direction anyway--and SE typically knows not to skimp on the director.

[Replicant]

Or it's the fact that the script sucks and most people who imported the game don't really understand Japanese.

In most cases, even a cheesy Japanese dialogue is still a lot more bearable than its English counterpart. Example: SO4. The cringe-worthy, high-pitched voice/behavior of some of the female characters actually don't sound too bad in Japanese even though they two actors deliver the same ham-fisted dialogue. Mostly because the Japanese VAs are able to convey that the characters really do sound like that (cute) whereas the English VAs strain hard to achieve similar voice/personality. As a result, the cute voice they made seems forced and awkward. And that did not even cover intonation and tonal range, which usually lacks from English VAs.

A major business full of people whose prime qualifications are "looks good in an upside-down swimsuit" or "spent seven digits in tuition at Y*y*gi", and who make $50-$100 per diem. :lol

VAs in Japan look good? :lol. There was that pic posted on LOL-taku which shows the face of the majority of female VAs in Japan. The majority of them are not what you'd call "good-looking". Some of them, however, do get hired mostly on their ability to deliver what they call "moe voices". Yes, they don't get paid much and that's why they are more competitive because sometimes they have to work on 2-3 shows just to cover their living expenses.

But it's not like it's impossible to get a lot of voiceover experience in the US, and easily 75% of the battle is voice direction anyway--and SE typically knows not to skimp on the director.

Well, obviously it's not quality VAs that SE hired for the English version of this game.

[Rahxephon91]

ITT Otaku bash american va for not being Japanese.

[Replicant]

ITT Otaku bash american va for not being Japanese.

OR: ITT holier-than-thou fans (animu? hurr hurr) feel the need to insult fans who like Japanese VA better than American VA.

[Firestorm]

OR: ITT holier-than-thou fans (animu? hurr hurr) feel the need to insult fans who like Japanese VA better than American VA.

OR: ITT people who can't understand Japanese think it sounds better because the stupid drivel they spout is incomprehensible

I remember the Japanese VA from that first trailer. It was trash too.

[Rahxephon91]

Well is hard to take you seriously when you make statements like:

Well, obviously it's not quality VAs that SE hired for the English version of this game.

Yes SE just got bums of the street.

In most cases, even a cheesy Japanese dialogue is still a lot more bearable than its English counterpart. Example: SO4. The cringe-worthy, high-pitched voice/behavior of some of the female characters actually don't sound too bad in Japanese even though they two actors deliver the same ham-fisted dialogue. Mostly because the Japanese VAs are able to convey that the characters really do sound like that (cute) whereas the English VAs strain hard to achieve similar voice/personality. As a result, the cute voice they made seems forced and awkward. And that did not even cover intonation and tonal range, which usually lacks from English VAs.

Really? When it comes to that stuff Japan VA just sound annoying ass hell. Cute is not the word anyone should use to describe voices like that. Unless of course you are a pedo. They sound just as forced as the American VA. I doubt a real grown women sounds like some child and I feel the only reason people feel most of the time that Japanese VA is better is they themselves don't speak Japanese.

Vanilla's Japanese VA sounds just as annoyingly cute as her American VA.

Still both are fine. The American dub is fine.

[Replicant]

OR: ITT people who can't understand Japanese think it sounds better because the stupid drivel they spout is incomprehensible.

Or: ITT people assume other people's ability is lesser than theirs. Just because the trailer wasn't up your alley it doesn't mean other people don't like it. I don't see what's wrong with Lightning's speech about wanting to protect Serah and that's why she changed her name. It works within the confines of the story and the delivery was a pitch perfect of sadness/helplessness from the VAs.

Yes SE just got bums of the street.

Did I say that? Thank you for the exaggeration, Miss Drama Queen.

Really? When it comes to that stuff Japan VA just sound annoying ass hell. Cute is not the word anyone should use to describe voices like that. Unless of course you are a pedo. They sound just as forced as the American VA. I doubt a real grown women sounds like some child and I feel the only reason people feel most of the time that Japanese VA is better is they themselves don't speak Japanese.

Well, D'OH! Of course they don't speak like that in reality. The characters, however, are the typical female-child persona popular in JRPG. Creepy? Well, you're going to play the game so don't act holier-than-thou. That sort of voice is something that many Japanese VAs are used to deliver and something that American VAs just have awkward time fulfilling the role. And oh, sorry, I don't like little girls. I like grown-ass men.

[Mandoric]

VAs in Japan look good? :lol. There was that pic posted on LOL-taku which shows the face of the majority of female VAs in Japan. The majority of them are not what you'd call "good-looking". Some of them, however, do get hired mostly on their ability to deliver what they call "moe voices". Yes, they don't get paid much and that's why they are more competitive because sometimes they have to work on 2-3 shows just to cover their living expenses. Well, obviously it's not quality VAs that SE hired for the English version of this game.

Majority, sure, just like the majority of them probably skipped that one trade school. Still doesn't mean there isn't a sizable population putting out gravure books.
The field is entirely seniority and connections-based, and there really isn't a means to reward talent in actual voice acting; unless you're doing porn pay is entirely per-diem and based on years in the union. This creates competition, sure, but most of the ways to pull yourself ahead and gain longevity and fortune in the field have very little to do with actual voice acting, so it really isn't as beneficial straight-up as you make it out to be.

I'm really not finding too much wrong with the VA themselves, listening to the trailer. Lightning's direction is a bit too deadpan, and I'm really not sure I like Fang's accent, but the horrible awkward lines tend to be horrible and awkward in Japanese too.

[Volcynika]

I enjoy bitching about English voices in an English localization for a game.

[Shadowlink]

Why are you guys complaining about VAs? If someone wants Japanese VA, import it. If you want English VA, buy it in NA/EU. It's that easy.

[duckroll]

This thread is getting really dumb again. I'm not sure why the argument always comes back down to "if you like xxxx more than xxxxxxxx, then clearly you simply don't understand xxxx and just pretend you do!" or "obviously xxxx is better than xxxxxxxx because it is clearly the case!" and so on and so on.

[akilshohen]

I just like to hear the difference between the voices and emotion in both languages. I played every cinema in Eternal Sonata twice....and that's why I don't play many RPG's.

[Volcynika]

This thread is getting really dumb again. I'm not sure why the argument always comes back down to "if you like xxxx more than xxxxxxxx, then clearly you simply don't understand xxxx and just pretend you do!" or "obviously xxxx is better than xxxxxxxx because it is clearly the case!" and so on and so on.

It's more fun to watch the back and forth!

[duckroll]

It's more fun to watch the back and forth!

Well, the first 4 seasons were fun, but now it's getting a bit repetitive. This thread needs better writers. Just like Square Enix does!

[Volcynika]

Well, the first 4 seasons were fun, but now it's getting a bit repetitive. This thread needs better writers. Just like Square Enix does!

:lol

[akakaze]

So how are the trophies in this game? Not impossible i hope? I cant imagine doing more than 1 playthrough so i hope its possible in one.

Hah, speaking of trophies. I saw someone on my friends' list playing the game and did a trophy compare, and noticed all the trophy names in English and had a minor freakout... I thought (for a fairly brief moment) that somehow, somewhere, a street date was broken two months early or someone got one hell of a hook-up.

Yeah, I'm anticipating this game way too much...

[Shadowlink]

Well, the first 4 seasons were fun, but now it's getting a bit repetitive. This thread needs better writers. Just like Square Enix does!

Well yeah but they are thinking about moving the show to 12:05 AM because of ratings. Am I doing it right?