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watkinzez
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(11-14-2009, 11:52 PM)
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From his facebook:

"I think the business of Rare has changed a great deal, and at the moment there is just not the opportunity to create the soundtracks that Rare were fortunately very famous for."

Rare's music department really has taken a hit this past year. Grant Kirkhope, Steve Burke, and now David Wise. Robin Beanland, David Clynick, Eveline Novakovic, Jamie Hughes and Martin Penny are the ones left that I know of.

Hopefully we'll still hear from David in the future. :(
Jocchan
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(11-14-2009, 11:53 PM)
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Wise choice.

Serious answer: I wish him good luck.
templeusox
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(11-14-2009, 11:53 PM)

Originally Posted by Jocchan

Wise choice.

First post is always...ughhhh.
polyh3dron
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(11-14-2009, 11:54 PM)
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David just had this epiphany NOW?
TouchMyBox
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(11-14-2009, 11:54 PM)
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Pardon my ignorance, but what works was he responsible for? The music is probably my favourite part of most of Rare's games.
markatisu
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(11-14-2009, 11:54 PM)
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He has a point, can't create soundtracks when you really don't create games anymore

Unless NATAL and the Xbox Live avatars need a soundtrack
Jocchan
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(11-14-2009, 11:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by templeusox

First post is always...ughhhh.

Wise?
V_Ben
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(11-14-2009, 11:55 PM)
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damn. rare soundtracks used to be so good. i wonder who they have left to compose now?
Balb
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(11-14-2009, 11:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by TouchMyBox

Pardon my ignorance, but what works was he responsible for? The music is probably my favourite part of most of Rare's games.

He's responsible for the awesome music in the DKC games among many others.

There are so many legendary tracks in DKC1 and 2, I hope Wise continues to work on game music with another company.
watkinzez
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(11-14-2009, 11:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by TouchMyBox

Pardon my ignorance, but what works was he responsible for? The music is probably my favourite part of most of Rare's games.

All of their NES output, Donkey Kong Country 1 and 2, Diddy Kong Racing, Star Fox Adventures.
Y2Kev
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(11-14-2009, 11:56 PM)
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Hmm...why can't you put a Wise soundtrack in a Natal game?
Spiegel
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(11-14-2009, 11:57 PM)
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This means Rare will be focused only on Natal games?

Sad if true, I thought the studio was big enough to support both types of games :/
BGBW
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(11-15-2009, 12:02 AM)
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I think I'll give the DKC2 soundtrack another listen.

Sorry to see him go.
SupraDarky
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(11-15-2009, 12:04 AM)
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I actually see this as good news if it means he'll be able to work on other games.
Peff
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(11-15-2009, 12:04 AM)
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Well this just sucks.
Nirolak
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(11-15-2009, 12:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by Y2Kev

Hmm...why can't you put a Wise soundtrack in a Natal game?

Perhaps they're astoundingly casual and they want a Wii Sports or Wii System menu like soundtrack.

Either way this is really sad and I hope he finds a great new place to work.
Oli
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(11-15-2009, 12:04 AM)
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Grant Kirkhope left also? Man. :(
Jocchan
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(11-15-2009, 12:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by BGBW

I think I'll give the DKC2 soundtrack another listen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67nkzoJ_2M
gnarkill bill
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(11-15-2009, 12:06 AM)
bummer.
Future PhaZe
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(11-15-2009, 12:07 AM)
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There is almost nothing left of Rare for me to love..

wtf man.
Linkified
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(11-15-2009, 12:08 AM)
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Originally Posted by markatisu

He has a point, can't create soundtracks when you really don't create games anymore

Unless NATAL and the Xbox Live avatars need a soundtrack

Those Xbox 360 montages still need good music though.
Ranger X
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(11-15-2009, 12:09 AM)
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Well I guess I am happy. Such talented man must want a futur! Good luck Dave, it's the right choice you're making I am sure!

Aaaaand now Rare is now "complete shit" instead of just being "shitty". It's the end.

.
madara
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(11-15-2009, 12:09 AM)
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Sadly state of affairs for longtime gamers.
Wizpig
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(11-15-2009, 12:10 AM)
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Jesus Christ, Rare.

Just...

I don't know, i don't really know what to say.
You guys remember all the fuss when Rare was sold or when their 360 games proved to be not-so-popular, but at those times i still had faith, i enjoyed recent games like N&B.
I knew it wasn't the same Rare i loved on 64, but still...

Yeah, i know, cool story bro. [:(]
It's just to say... I lost all faith in Rare in these last few weeks of awful news regarding them.
Bitter tears.
I guess this time it really is over.
WinFonda
(11-15-2009, 12:12 AM)
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Kind of sad. Best of luck to him.
Operations
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(11-15-2009, 12:14 AM)

Originally Posted by Wizpig

Jesus Christ, Rare.

Just...

I don't know, i don't really know what to say.
You guys remember all the fuss when Rare was sold or when their 360 games proved to be not-so-popular, but at those times i still had faith, i enjoyed recent games like N&B.
I knew it wasn't the same Rare i loved on 64, but still...

Yeah, i know, cool story bro. [:(]
It's just to say... I lost all faith in Rare in these last few weeks of awful news regarding them.
Bitter tears.
I guess this time it really is over.

It was over several years ago, even before the mega transaction, it's just that many people didn't want to see it.
kadotsu
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(11-15-2009, 12:15 AM)
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Dear Insomniac,

Hire this man and create the Ratchet & Clank follow up IP with him.

Thank you!
udivision
(11-15-2009, 12:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by Y2Kev

Hmm...why can't you put a Wise soundtrack in a Natal game?

Cuz Natal is dumb! Hyuckhyuckhyuck!
Kamille
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(11-15-2009, 12:18 AM)
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David Wise is probably one of my top 3 game composers of all time. His work on DKC2's soundtrack was incredible. It's somewhat sad to see him leaving Rare because they're who I associate him with. It's mostly sad because it seems like just another reminder that the Rare of old is a thing of the past. Which isn't a knock on the current Rare, as there's still plenty of talented people there. I just have fond memories of beating Rare games, then seeing these familiar names scroll by in the credits. I'd see D. Wise's name under music, and feel like, "ofcourse! that's why the soundtrack kicked so much ass!"

I'd be sadder if he said he were retiring from the industry altogether, but hopefully his work'll turn up in other upcoming games.
AniHawk
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(11-15-2009, 12:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by Oli

Grant Kirkhope left also? Man. :(

I think that will grant Grant Kirkhope some hope.
iconoclast
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(11-15-2009, 12:20 AM)
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Rare's future is looking pretty bleak.

I guess Nuts and Bolts was as good a send off as any though.
Nuclear Muffin
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(11-15-2009, 12:20 AM)
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Man I feel bad, but I can't blame him really. He hasn't really had an opportunity to write a full soundtrack to a game since Starfox Adventures (the GBA DKCs don't really count)

The guy's a legend, any company would be crazy not to take him on! (hint hint Nintendo!)
faridmon
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(11-15-2009, 12:21 AM)
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how the mighty have fallen.

so its true, the higher you go the harder you fall.

anyway, i really want to play a game with Wise as a composer. please make it happen next year or the year after that. I loved Wise' work on Donkey Kong Country.

hopefully not an FPS.
Sixfortyfive
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(11-15-2009, 12:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by TouchMyBox

Pardon my ignorance, but what works was he responsible for?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ovUpsy4BZw
Michan
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(11-15-2009, 12:23 AM)
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Damnit. Grant Kirkhope out of the picture was a real blow, but Dave Wise sticking around was what gave me faith in Rare's music department. This is really, really bad news for Rare and their followers.

Not that I don't appreciate Beanland and the like, but these two guys put Rare on that map when it came to audio for the last two decades. Everything they worked on was brilliant to listen to. Absolutely devastating news.
Fimbulvetr
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(11-15-2009, 12:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jocchan

Wise choice.

Serious answer: I wish him good luck.

Wisecracks aren't funny outside of OT.
Michan
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(11-15-2009, 12:26 AM)
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Originally Posted by AniHawk

I think that will grant Grant Kirkhope some hope.

He's actually been struggling to get by since Big Huge Games ran out of money and laid off a bunch of staff. Not sure how they're doing now...
Milk Lizard
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(11-15-2009, 12:29 AM)
Well you can understand him not wanting to make natal fit music or whatever MS tells them to. Good luck in the future.
TheSeks
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(11-15-2009, 12:31 AM)
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Originally Posted by Operations

It was over several years ago, even before the mega transaction, it's just that many people didn't want to see it.

.

Anyone that thought Rare was good after the N64 (even though that was debatable) were crazy.

Though Conker on X-box wasn't bad, minus the censoring
Azure J
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(11-15-2009, 12:35 AM)
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I wish if Wise & Kirkhope could find their way back to Nintendo somehow, or hell anyone who'd put their talents to good use often, but in whatever endeavor Wise (and Kirkhope) go through, I wish them the best.

That said, Jesus Rare, what are you all doing? :(
Cerrius
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(11-15-2009, 12:38 AM)
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wow, this is a death blow. I loved Wise's work on Diddy Kong Racing, so many great tunes that take me back to my childhood.


The Rare of old is dead, they're not the same anymore. It's over.
evilromero
(11-15-2009, 12:41 AM)
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Don't you effing forget- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce_l_YX_MUg

Rare was THE best developer on the N64, no questions asked. Even their mediocre stuff like DK64, Mickey Speedway and JFG had such charm and magic. Viva Pinata and Nuts & Bolts came close in a lot of ways but missed the mark somehow.
apujanata
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(11-15-2009, 12:42 AM)
It is rare to find very good music people in Rare nowadays. Rare names, Rare people. :(
Kaako
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(11-15-2009, 12:44 AM)
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Best of luck to him.
Solo
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(11-15-2009, 12:45 AM)
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Meh, they already lost Grant Kirkhope, who was the real maestro.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQnMM...eature=related

ENTRENCHED IN MY BRAIN FOREVER
sillymonkey321
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(11-15-2009, 12:46 AM)
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Rare still makes games?

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