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ccbfan
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(12-21-2009, 11:28 PM)
I haven't played an rpg with a good class/skill customization system for a while.

Last one I've played was FFT where you have a bunch of classes, each class has a bunch of skills, and you can mix and match like crazy. Making awesome combos.

Its always restricted to just class changing but linear vanilla skills like disgaea or you choose one class but many skills like most wrpgs.

Or they go half way and restrict the hell out of it like FFTA2.

Any suggestions?

I have a PS2, Wii, DS and PSP.

ALso have played all the FF and Tales games.
TheExodu5
(12-21-2009, 11:29 PM)
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Disgaea 1, 2

If you're in it for the gameplay, then Disgaea 2, easily.

Both can be had on PSN for pretty cheap if you want them on the PSP. I wouldn't recommend Disgaea 1 PS2 (PSP version is much nicer), but Disgaea 2 PS2 is fine.
oracrest
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(12-21-2009, 11:29 PM)
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The weapon/Armor combo's in Monster Hunter are pretty deep and fun to play with, but it's more of an action game, so probably not what your looking for really....
HamPster PamPster
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(12-21-2009, 11:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by ccbfan

I haven't played an rpg with a good class/skill customization system for a while.

Last one I've played was FFT where you have a bunch of classes, each class has a bunch of skills, and you can mix and match like crazy. Making awesome combos.

Ouch - hate to break it to you but you already peaked. Play the PSP port if you haven't

Suikoden Tactics is good but its character based. Each character has an element, team attacks, spells, and a weapon. It more mixing and matching characters then classes but still fun (example: do you bring in a fire element character into your majority water element team because they have a good team attack or don't you... etc...)

Personally its my favorite SRPG on the PS2... but I'm alone in that. Tread carefully!
Cat in the Hat
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(12-21-2009, 11:32 PM)
Disgaea 1 on either the PSP(better version) or PS2 seems like it'd be right up your alley
Ultima_5
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(12-21-2009, 11:39 PM)
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Final Fantasy III has a class system. I thought it was a pretty good ds game when it came out. Plus you can get it cheap used.
ccbfan
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(12-21-2009, 11:41 PM)

Originally Posted by TheExodu5

Disgaea 1, 2

If you're in it for the gameplay, then Disgaea 2, easily.

Both can be had on PSN for pretty cheap if you want them on the PSP. I wouldn't recommend Disgaea 1 PS2 (PSP version is much nicer), but Disgaea 2 PS2 is fine.


Played Disgaea 1.

They don't really let you customize at all though.

It all basically all weapons base for skills and class for stats and you can't really do any mixing and matching plus each class has their "you should use this weapon if you want to be effective" other than the super majin class which is just a blank slate since he could use everything with S rank. Plus there's only really original attack skills but vanilla other stuff and none of the crazy support/movement/reaction/passive stuff.
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(12-21-2009, 11:42 PM)
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batbeg
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(12-21-2009, 11:59 PM)
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Wild Arms XF has a pretty badass job system that's similar to FFT. The game is a little slow opening up but it really has a lot of awesome possibilities once it does, and makes you take advantage of the job mixing and matching.
Negator
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(12-22-2009, 12:01 AM)
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Final Fantasy 5 has a degree of customization that works pretty well. Not as deep as FFT, but definitely better than FFTA2.
jiggle
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(12-22-2009, 12:02 AM)
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FF8+junction system
BrokenSymmetry
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(12-22-2009, 12:15 AM)
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Nothing beats Guild Wars as far as skill customization goes. In that game you have a class and a sub-class, with 100-150 skills for each class. From these skills you have to select 8 skills for your skill bar. There are 1319 skills in the game in total.
Ri'Orius
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(12-22-2009, 12:21 AM)
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Came to say FFT.

Since you've played that, some others that occur to me:

Final Fantasy X-2. It gets a lot of hate, some of which it actually deserves, but I was a huge fan of the class system. Job change mid-battle, heck yeah.

Final Fantasy 5, 3. These two FF games feature a similar job system to FFT. Not as good, though. And 5 > 3 for job system IIRC (haven't played 3 in a while...).

Final Fantasy 11. It's an MMO, but from what I hear it lets you do some fun multiclassing stuff. Might have a free trial these days.

I'll keep wracking my brain, see if I can recall any others. 'Cause yeah, I know exactly what you mean...
djtiesto
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(12-22-2009, 01:05 AM)
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Dragon Quest 6 and 7 have a job system similar to the FF games, they are a bit more slow paced and not as varied as FF5 and T's tho... also, Blue Dragon has a very similar job system to FF5.
Fancy Corndog
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(12-22-2009, 01:10 AM)
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Final Fantasy XI had an amazing class system, but I'd say it's too late to start playing since the next MMO is coming out next year.
Takeda Kenshi
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(12-22-2009, 03:26 AM)
Wizardry 8 hands down. Tons of different combinations that actually WORK, and lots of cool classes/races. One of my favorite games of all time. Just be prepared for a game that (in the beginning at least) is pretty difficult.
Jokey665
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(12-22-2009, 03:32 AM)
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Etrian Odyssey I & II, maybe?
Segata Sanshiro
(12-22-2009, 03:34 AM)
Yeah, I was going to suggest the EO games as well. Lots of different ways to build each job in terms of their skills. Not much mixing and matching, but certainly several different ways to build each job, which leads to a ton of potential party choices.
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(12-22-2009, 03:45 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jokey665

Etrian Odyssey I & II, maybe?

I would stay away from these 2 games unless you like being frustrated and the urge to break things.

I'm not someone who reacts when playing games (I'm easy going) but EO ranks alongside F-Zero GX on the frustration level. These are the only 2 games to get me absolutely pissed...
ccbfan
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(12-22-2009, 06:02 PM)
LOL way too much FF recommendations (Already mentioned I've played all the FFs)

I'm gonna give Wild Arms XF and EO a try though.

I am kinda amazed that FFT still have the best class/skill customization system and the game is like over 10 years old.
Johann
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(12-22-2009, 07:50 PM)
You should definitely check out Guild Wars. Although it is an online RPG, there are no monthly payments required to play and it runs well on a well on a wide range of computers.

You have a primary and secondary class with each class containing over 100 skills. You're limited to 8 skills at a time which adds a major strategic element to the game.

There are also the Wizardry games but it takes a lot of time and understanding before you really start pulling off good class/skill combinations.
Link Man
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(12-22-2009, 08:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by ccbfan

Played Disgaea 1.

They don't really let you customize at all though.

It all basically all weapons base for skills and class for stats and you can't really do any mixing and matching plus each class has their "you should use this weapon if you want to be effective" other than the super majin class which is just a blank slate since he could use everything with S rank. Plus there's only really original attack skills but vanilla other stuff and none of the crazy support/movement/reaction/passive stuff.

Well, actually, any character in Disgaea 1 can learn any skill. Say you use Laharl (or anyone else, really) to create a healer. If he's standing next to that healer, Laharl can use Level 0 heal, and if you can level heal up to Level 1, then it becomes a permanent skill.
LiK
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(12-22-2009, 08:06 PM)
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I dunno, Dragon Age Origins or Demons' Souls?
Manmademan
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(12-22-2009, 08:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by ccbfan

LOL way too much FF recommendations (Already mentioned I've played all the FFs)

I'm gonna give Wild Arms XF and EO a try though.

I am kinda amazed that FFT still have the best class/skill customization system and the game is like over 10 years old.

if you REALLY want a challenge, you could try going through demon's souls sticking as much as possible to the classes at the start of the game.

personally, I ended up mixing and matching, but it's perfectly possible to run through the game as a pure paladin, pure thief, pure mage, pure archer, pure barbarian, etc.

You will probably die a hell of a lot in the process though :lol
inner-G
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(12-22-2009, 08:29 PM)
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[IMG]http://i46.************/ta0bhf.jpg[/IMG]

seriously.
badcrumble
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(12-22-2009, 08:30 PM)
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Wait for FFV DS! in my dreams
Flachmatuch
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(12-22-2009, 08:31 PM)

Originally Posted by Takeda Kenshi

Wizardry 8 hands down. Tons of different combinations that actually WORK, and lots of cool classes/races. One of my favorite games of all time. Just be prepared for a game that (in the beginning at least) is pretty difficult.

7 is even better in some ways (the class change thing at least). Just play all three (6,7,8).
Manmademan
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(12-22-2009, 08:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by inner-G

FFX2.jpg

seriously.

oh I agree, this IS without a doubt the best option, bar none. The OP already specified he played all the FF games, however.

honorable mention goes to FFXII. Also possible there to have a good class based game, with some mixing and matching.
inner-G
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(12-22-2009, 08:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by Manmademan

The OP already specified he played all the FF games, however.

Ah, I somehow read 'all the FFT(A) games' out of it. my bad
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(12-22-2009, 08:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by F#A#Oo

I would stay away from these 2 games unless you like being frustrated and the urge to break things.

I'm not someone who reacts when playing games (I'm easy going) but EO ranks alongside F-Zero GX on the frustration level. These are the only 2 games to get me absolutely pissed...

You have got to be kidding me.

EO2 really isn't that hard as long as you're committed and have an eye for party-building. I got absolutely nowhere in EO1 yet I was still able to beat EO2 without a guide.
Blue Heeler
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(12-22-2009, 08:45 PM)
Valkyria Chronicles has a nice upgrading system and the mix and match of your army is nice. Have you played that yet?
Tommie Hu$tle
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(12-22-2009, 08:49 PM)
This is a great post I've been looking for this myself. What about anything specifically for the DS.
butts
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(12-22-2009, 09:02 PM)
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Are you posting from a PC? Any PC? If so - Diablo II
theultimo
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(12-22-2009, 09:12 PM)
If you do have a PC, Neverwinter Nights 1 or 2, Diablo II, and Titan Quest good picks for customization.
jjasper
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(12-22-2009, 09:29 PM)
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You could try Tactics Ogre.

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