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Banned
(04-20-2012, 02:40 AM)
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#3701
Okay guys here we go.
ALIENWARE M14X For $800
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(04-20-2012, 02:52 AM)
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#3702
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(04-20-2012, 03:22 AM)
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#3703
Errr is this used? If used, there are better deals out there I think. I hope you're not in too much of a hurry as it's almost a certainty that a lot of retailers will be putting up existing models on sale once newer spec machines come out starting in May. Diablo 3 won't be out till the 15th anyway so that should give us all an extra 2 weeks.
If you have $800 to buy used, go up to $900-1K to buy the 15.6" Clevo150ER, starting next week when there will be more CPU options to choose from. You get a better screen, newer/cooler GPU, and if you can wait for next week or so a newer/cooler CPU as well. Plus your PC won't look like an alienware :P. |
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(04-20-2012, 03:26 AM)
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(04-20-2012, 03:30 AM)
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#3705
2. Yes. The resolution sucks. All entry level notebooks come with a 768p LCD, and most of them are mediocre, some downright shameful. This is the #1 component which will require one to spend more to get better. 3. I can only recommend that you look for reviews on any notebook I show you, just in case. Most of the complaints I've seen about this machine deal with screen resolution, which I covered previously. Whenever you get more info, I'll help you out.
Consider that Sager I linked earlier. It can be had for less than $1k, if all you select is to have Windows 7 installed. I'd also add the quad core for the additional $70, but that's pretty much all it needs.
The 2500K just laughs at it.
ODD bays are best used for mass storage drives, while you place the speediest drive in the main drive port. With the new revision coming within a week? Lol no.
Last edited by K.Jack; 04-20-2012 at 03:32 AM.
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(04-20-2012, 03:52 AM)
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#3706
Oh look....
7970M TDP: 100W 1280 Shaders Core Clock: 850 Mhz Memory Clock: 1200 Mhz 256 bit Memory Bus Memory Bandwidth: 153.6 GB/s Proof Just 150MHz (or 85%) slower than the desktop 7870. Three words: ![]() Might be faster than 6970M Crossfire.
Last edited by K.Jack; 04-20-2012 at 04:07 AM.
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butthurt Heat fan
(04-20-2012, 04:52 AM)
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#3707
lol, there's no way I can afford an Alienware with that card.
Also, I think you mean 15 percent less powerful, not 85 percent.
Last edited by twinturbo2; 04-20-2012 at 04:57 AM.
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butthurt Heat fan
(04-20-2012, 05:06 AM)
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#3708
Okay, I looked at the prices for Alienware there. Maybe I can afford one.
But I might need to take out a loan for one, and I already have a car payment to worry about. But I can get an employee discount where I work. They have an employee purchase program with Dell that's good for about three percent off the purchase price. The Alienware with the Radeon, Blu-ray, 8 gigs of RAM and the fastest processor they have available is about $2600, before applying the EPP discount. The EPP discount can slash off $78 from the price. Wait... shit, back to square one... |
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paid requisite penance
(04-20-2012, 11:07 AM)
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#3709
1. By that I assume you mean KIA has come a very long way too? I don't know much about car companies, much less KIA. The more you know... 2. That's what I thought. What about color fidelity though? Is it a cheap TN panel or have they been doing something nice on that front? 3. I see. Reviews for this particular model seem hard to come buy, but similar models are getting good reviews. Why is Acer make so many versions of the same laptop? Ugh. I actually got more info. Turns out my father's partner's recommendations are all over the place: first he recommends top-of-the-line workstation laptops from Dell (which are equipped with Nvidia Quadro GPUs and i7 CPUs and all go for at least 1500€), then he goes on to say his trusty ASUS K72JR laptop does the job fine. That model isn't made any more and features an i5 430M (2.27GHz) with a GeForce GT540M. Correct me if I'm wrong, but performance-wise everything in the Acer you recommend is better, right? Since my father will never spend upwards of 1000€ for something he might never use it's even more likely that we'll go for your recommendation now. |
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(04-20-2012, 12:35 PM)
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#3710
So with the m11x being shitcanned I think I am set for the refresh of the m14x with Ivy Bridge whenever that hits.
I know, it's an Alienware, but if I am going to have an optical drive I want that shit to be a slot loader and some of the competitors you guys post don't have a strong UK presence in sales or after-care, Dell do. |
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(04-20-2012, 02:17 PM)
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#3711
Last edited by Banglish; 04-20-2012 at 02:23 PM.
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(04-20-2012, 04:21 PM)
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#3712
The M11x has not been "shitcanned"; from what I hear, the issue is simply that the Ivy Bridge dual core processors are not close to release, so there's nothing to refresh it to, at this moment.
A 15.6" Clevo with that card will be ~$1.5k, from what I'm hearing.
Which machine are you configuring? Let me help you maximize your money.
A huge plus with this machine, which some budget notebooks lack, is that it does have an HDMI port. If anything, your father can hook it up to a high quality, higher resolution panel, when he needs to do serious desk work. As far as SKUs, if one get good reviews, they all do, because it's the same exact chassis with slightly different RAM, HDD, CPU configs. RE: the Acer vs the Asus - The Sandy Bridge i5 is significantly faster than the Clarksfield i5-430M, because the advanced Turbo Boost technology. GPU-wise, the GT 630M is a direct rebrand of the 540M, so there's no change there. FAKE EDIT: Doing some research, I just learned that the i5-2450M does not support VT-d and Trusted Execution. Make sure these functions are not needed, otherwise we need to look at a different model. |
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(04-20-2012, 04:53 PM)
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#3713
Posted on the last page
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(04-20-2012, 07:00 PM)
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#3714
Dell is making a clear miscalculation, imo. How can you say the M14x bridges the gap between the demand for highly portable gaming and feature rich machines, when it's thicker and as heavy as some 15" gaming notebooks? Going this route, I think Dell needs to axe the M14x, to expand the line into an M13x and M15x. |
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butthurt Heat fan
(04-20-2012, 07:42 PM)
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#3715
Okay, K.Jack, thanks for the suggestion. I'm configuring the M17-X with the Radeon card. If I can save $350 by just going with the base i7 available, I'll do it.
It just means more money foe extras like MS Office. |
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paid requisite penance
(04-20-2012, 09:15 PM)
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#3716
Thank you for helping me out :). |
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(04-20-2012, 09:20 PM)
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#3717
Sad that Alienware is cancelling the very machine I made this thread for more than two years ago :-/ so much potential in this form factor if they paired it with Ivy Bridge and the latest NVIDIA mobile chips. Nothing else like it on the market.
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(04-20-2012, 11:03 PM)
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#3718
The 7970M is where you'll pay dividends. Don't be fooled by the 675M being more expensive. The AMD card is going to be at least 50% faster. I guess Clevo has good timing. The W110ER was to be the M11x competitor, and Dell just bowed out of the fight. |
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(04-20-2012, 11:05 PM)
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#3719
I will have a laptop with this card. *Starts budgeting the fuck out of everything* |
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(04-21-2012, 12:04 AM)
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#3720
So Im looking for a small laptop (Preferably 13-14 inches) with a 640m or 650m.
I know the new clevo has a 650m, but I can't really find any info on any other laptops with these cards (I know its just a recently released chip). Do you guys have an idea or recommendations for laptops that may get refreshed with these cards? I don't need a crazy laptop for gaming on the go since I have a desktop, but it'd be nice to have from time to time. Looking to keep under $800. |
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(04-21-2012, 01:55 AM)
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#3721
There will be many announcements over the next couple of weeks, as Ivy Bridge trickles through the industry.
Just stay tuned, I guess. GT 650M under $800 is not likely, just imo. |
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butthurt Heat fan
(04-21-2012, 03:07 AM)
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(04-21-2012, 03:38 AM)
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#3723
Holy shit. Unless the GTX 680M is miraculously awesome, this will crush everything. Shame that the ~70W TDP rumour wasn't true though :P |
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Junior Member
(04-23-2012, 12:07 AM)
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#3724
What's the likelihood one of these notebooks/netbooks with a 1 GB video card gives you 4 good years if service (good graphics now and decent to average graphics by year 4)?
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Banned
(04-23-2012, 01:22 AM)
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#3725
can i replace tne 6990m in my m17x r3 with a 7970m?
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Member
(04-23-2012, 02:17 AM)
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(04-23-2012, 05:46 AM)
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#3727
This might not be the right thread for this question but since the laptop heads are actually visiting the thread I thought I might give it a shot:
My Lenovo T400 (no gaming laptop by all means but old stuff and indie games work) has been overheating for quite some while when I do "intensive" stuff (It actually shut down when I was playing SpaceChem) and has gotten considerably slower. Using a CPU program I found out that my CPU is constantly around 75-80°C and the GPU ~70°C. This can't be healthy. Some googling lead me to threads of people having had the same issue and solving it by applying new thermal paste. This seems like the most apparent solution since I haven't touched the hardware and my usage hasn't changed considerably over the last few weeks or months. What do you guys think? |
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(04-23-2012, 05:55 AM)
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(04-23-2012, 09:23 AM)
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#3729
Yeah I tried that to but it didn't help. Took a look at the paste and it's exactly the same as described on the Lenovo forums, completely dried up. Gonna buy some Arctic Cooler 5 later and try that.
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(04-23-2012, 01:28 PM)
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#3730
I went through two Lenovo T42s at work because the fan burned out. The thing got so hot that it just kept shutting off, like yours. I actually picked up a USB-powered fan and that did the trick.
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(04-23-2012, 03:52 PM)
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#3731
Okay, the operation went well and the CPU is around 50°C now. Don't know if that's ideal but it's certainly a lot better.
What fan are you using? Just in case :lol |
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butthurt Heat fan
(04-23-2012, 04:51 PM)
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#3732
So, when exactly this week will the Alienware notebooks be updated with Ivy Bridge CPU's? Or is "this week!" the only timeframe we know of?
I really know what I want, and I'm certainly going to buy once Ivy Bridge becomes available. |
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(04-23-2012, 06:37 PM)
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#3733
The final Ivy Bridge NDA ends tomorrow.
So far, I know Dell/Alienware is scheduled to reveal its entire lineup in the morning. This will be a fun week. 50C at idle is well within normal expectations.
Last edited by K.Jack; 04-23-2012 at 06:39 PM.
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Member
(04-23-2012, 08:01 PM)
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#3734
No idea. I finally got a W520 from work (the speakers don't work out of the box though; don't understand why anyone would buy a Lenovo) and the USB fan's little legs finally snapped off, so it went in the trash. It was like $20 from Target.
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Member
(04-23-2012, 08:14 PM)
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#3735
After chatting for almost an hour with an XoticPC rep it just made the wait harder. They said there won't be availability (and configuration options showing up online) of the new IB laptop cpus until 4/29. Instead of their typical 2-5 business day processing they're quoting 7-12 now, with more and more advance orders coming in for IB. That's 12 business days before May 15, and even with 2 day or overnight shipping it will be too close a call. Alienware is showing 5/21 as their earliest ship dates so that's not coming anytime soon too.
They were listing the 7970 at +$100 over the 670 this morning but now it's at +$200. I'm not sure if that's a Clevo price hike or an AMD one but if the leaks are to believed it might be well deserved. I'm not configuring anything in that price range though as I have a great gaming PC and just need something semi-capable (650m) with the largest SSD I can afford for LAN gaming. At this point though it's starting to look like I'd be better off creating an mATX 2nd PC plus buying the cheapest laptop I can get for the same amount of money as the Clevo I want configured but I was never much for common sense with electronics. Sigh I can't think clearly right now and wish these laptops were just in stores already so that I could try/buy them. |
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(04-23-2012, 08:32 PM)
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#3736
The wait is killing me. I am seriously considering pulling the trigger on this ASUS N53SM-ES72.
http://www.amazon.com/N53SM-ES72-15-...5212933&sr=1-7 With shipping between 8-9 days, I need to order it sooner rather than later. Decisions, decisions... wait for April 30th to see what happens with prices, or pull the trigger on the $900 model now? Ugh. |
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(04-24-2012, 01:22 AM)
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#3737
It's pretty much down to Intel not allowing any Ivy Bridge sales until the 29th, and then the floodgates open and the feeding frenzy begins.
I've received an estimated delivery of May 21st from a couple different manufacturers, including Dell and Sager. |
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(04-24-2012, 01:26 AM)
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#3738
So, Ivy Bridge aside, how is the market for 11.6 screen size gaming laptops?
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(04-24-2012, 01:33 AM)
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(04-24-2012, 03:59 AM)
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#3740
Email or call them if you want to "custom" order the i7-3612QM. It's only around $25 more than the current top-end Sandy Bridge dual-core CPU on their configurator. |
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(04-24-2012, 04:34 AM)
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butthurt Heat fan
(04-24-2012, 04:44 AM)
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#3742
If this lasts me three years, it'll be worth it. |
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(04-24-2012, 04:52 AM)
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#3743
Blowing 2.5k right now seems like a bit of a waste. Just sayin'! |
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(04-24-2012, 10:12 AM)
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#3744
bought a Dell XPS 17 last august, and it should last me for a couple years. |
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butthurt Heat fan
(04-24-2012, 11:27 AM)
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#3745
I'm of the mindset that my stuff should last for a while. My current Dell notebook was purchased in 2005, and lasted me for a while. It's slow as hell now, but it still runs.
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(04-24-2012, 05:04 PM)
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#3746
I believe in buying a machine which will game at high settings for two years. The enthusiast class machine I buy in Q1/Q2 of this year will have a faster GPU than the mid-range machine you buy this year, and maybe the one you look to buy next year too. Spending $1.6k-$2k once every 2 to 2.5 years is the much smarter move, because you get worry free experience with the latest games at max settings for a good deal of time, as opposed to the person who lives off of the yearly or bi-yearly ~$1,000 machine, who has to start up the game, go to options, then spend their early time with the game adjusting settings to balance eye candy and framerate. I say no doing that every year. I launch the game -> go to Options -> choose the High or Ultra preset -> start playing. Maxing the GPU early in the year allows you to skip generations. I do not upgrade every time AMD/Nvidia release new graphics cards. Upgrading in 2-3 years guarantees that you real real, tangible advances in technology every time you're shopping. tl;dr - you end up spending as much, if not more money than me, and I'm the one who has better gaming experiences during that time frame. The 7970M is out there for $1.5k, and is 3x faster than what you'll get in a $1,200 machine. Not spending that extra money is crazy to me. This is a 3 to 4 year GPU. p.s - 7970M benchmarks, vs the 580M/675M: ![]() Damn!
Last edited by K.Jack; 04-24-2012 at 05:11 PM.
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Member
(04-24-2012, 08:09 PM)
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#3747
Smart move? Dumb move? Wait til next week, AngmarsKing, you knucklehead? |
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(04-24-2012, 09:52 PM)
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(04-24-2012, 09:54 PM)
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(04-24-2012, 10:13 PM)
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