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(03-06-2010, 06:56 AM)

Originally Posted by Lazy vs Crazy

I just watched the GT review and the actual review gave a much more positive impression than the score. It was overwhelmingly positive, and sounded like a 9+ easy. So I'm confused by the score, but more hyped for the game than I was before.

They are the most fair professional reviewers out there, there was plenty in there to warrant that score.
fernoca
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(03-06-2010, 06:57 AM)
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Love this video.
(No spoilers..is just the party walking around the map)


Bet it was posted already, but I've been avoiding videos of the game and overall info, just keep an eye on pictures and overall discussion here and there. Decided to look for a video, because a friend and I were wondering if the characters stay with you when joining your party or you "absorb them" like in many RPGs.. :p ..so the video answered that question..and wow..looks big..pretty..and so full of enemies.. :lol
Sin
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(03-06-2010, 06:58 AM)
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Very nice OP, Kagari!
DMeisterJ
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(03-06-2010, 07:02 AM)
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Nice OP Kagari :D

I'm so hyped for this game, Tuesday can not come soon enough. I may have to put BF: BC2 on the back-burner.
Castor Krieg
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(03-06-2010, 07:13 AM)
To all the people worried and waiting - you will not be disappointed. Just experience this with open mind for what it is - good story, great characters, and OMFG battle system. If you're curious when the "tutorial" part ends - 6 hour mark. No 15-25h BS.
avatar299
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(03-06-2010, 07:22 AM)
Yeah why exactly are people saying the tutorial is 20 hours? It makes no sense.
Blablurn
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(03-06-2010, 07:25 AM)
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nice thread, i hope i'll get this game as soon as possible.
cosmicblizzard
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(03-06-2010, 07:33 AM)
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So are there any importers that absolutely LOVED the game? I mean to the point of it entering your top 3 FF games.
Joei
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(03-06-2010, 07:40 AM)
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It feels like just yesterday you made the official information thread. Man, it's been a long time coming for this game, that's for sure, but time sure has flown by!

I for sure can't wait till next week!
VeRKK
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(03-06-2010, 07:41 AM)
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if not, someone who finished the game that can help please message me, thank you.
miladesn
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(03-06-2010, 07:42 AM)
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awesome official thread.
Skilletor
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(03-06-2010, 07:43 AM)
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I'll be picking it up day 1, though Resonance of Fate and GoW3 have killed a bit of my hype. Still looking forward to it, though.
icarus-daedelus
(03-06-2010, 07:48 AM)
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Originally Posted by VeRKK

if not, someone who finished the game that can help please message me, thank you.

Check the Import Thread.
VeRKK
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(03-06-2010, 07:52 AM)
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thanks.
Ikkarus
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(03-06-2010, 08:08 AM)
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Fantastic OP!

I really cant wait to get to get in to the game, I loved X and a lot of people have drew comparisons to it so I feel confident it will deliver for me.
Darkatomz
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(03-06-2010, 08:09 AM)
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...I'm not gonna lie, the review scores are freaking me out a little bit. Then again, FF12 was rated higher everywhere and I hated it.

Nice OP Kagari.
-DarKaoZ-
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(03-06-2010, 08:14 AM)
Is the Poster/Artwork from the OP base on the 360 ver?

Just kidding, just making fun from all the "HUGE" difference in the 360 vs PS3 subjects, well besides the picture does look low quality :lol

Anyways, FF13 battle system dissapoints me, I expected something more, then I played Resonance of Fate and my hopes for a over the top RPG gameplay came true. RoF gameplay is what I expected from FF13 after seen the first trailer, now dunno if the story of RoF will be as good as FF13, but at least it will be fun to play.

Getting FF13 later in my case, there is no SE to worry and get day 1, only in EU that is. =/

Oh, BTW, anybody has a high quality/res ver of that artwork in the OP?
APZonerunner
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(03-06-2010, 08:32 AM)
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Great thread Kagari. I have one piece of advice for those going in now: Don't let the early bits where it's slow and super locked-in put you off! It gets much better. Keep at it!
Mileena
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(03-06-2010, 08:37 AM)
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Originally Posted by cosmicblizzard

So are there any importers that absolutely LOVED the game? I mean to the point of it entering your top 3 FF games.

I think it'd be crazy to top FF4, FF6 and FF9 so that sounds a little nuts. Just being better than that shitty shit FF12 would be good enough for me.
scorpian007
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(03-06-2010, 08:56 AM)
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Just bought my copy of the Collectors Edition :D Store upstairs broke embargo so they will be fined like a mother fucker :lol

But Ubisoft let our store sell it early since the other store broke it. Apparently we are the first store in the world to be allowed to officially sell it.

Decided to get the PS3 version )even though I usually prefer multiplatform games on the 360) because of the superior graphics and sound quality.

So far so good, the graphics are amazing. Probably the best I've seen this generation.

Battle system seems pretty simplified (so far) but I've only played about an hour and a half.

Here's proof (sorry about the crappy iPhone pics)

[IMG]http://i49.************/2cf6viv.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i48.************/2wlr4oo.jpg[/IMG]
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Castor Krieg
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(03-06-2010, 08:57 AM)
Another nit-pick towards the reviewers - "you cannot talk with NPCs". You couldn't talk with them in previous FF as well, jRPGs don't do dialogue trees. Here you have the same thing as in every FF, but instead of pressing X to hear the dialogue, you just need to walk past. Wtf were the reviewers playing?
Ristlager
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(03-06-2010, 08:59 AM)
To the people who has finished the japanese version. I have killed every weapon/supermonster in every FF game so far (from VII), does this game require more or less grinding than the other ones to do the same?
donkey show
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(03-06-2010, 09:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by Ristlager

To the people who has finished the japanese version. I have killed every weapon/supermonster in every FF game so far (from VII), does this game require more or less grinding than the other ones to do the same?

It's all relative really, but I'd say it's about the same. Have fun with the release! :D

Originally Posted by comicblizzard

So are there any importers that absolutely LOVED the game? I mean to the point of it entering your top 3 FF g

Not so much the entire game as a whole as I would say the battle system. It's definitely one of my top faves... once you unlock everything it has to offer
BboyDubC
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(03-06-2010, 09:33 AM)
So does the 360 US version have optional japanese audio? If not, does the Japanese version have English text? Basically does any version have Japanese audio with subtitles for 360?
Durante
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(03-06-2010, 09:33 AM)
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Awesome thread! I'll play a bit more before posting my impressions.

Originally Posted by avatar299

Yeah why exactly are people saying the tutorial is 20 hours? It makes no sense.

Because apparently, if you can't choose your party members it's a "tutorial". (Yeah, it doesn't make any sense)

Originally Posted by BboyDubC

So does the 360 US version have optional japanese audio? If not, does the Japanese version have English text? Basically does any version have Japanese audio with subtitles for 360?

No. The cynic in me assumes that this is the case because they want us to pay again for the "international" version in a year or so :P.

Originally Posted by Castor Krieg

Another nit-pick towards the reviewers - "you cannot talk with NPCs". You couldn't talk with them in previous FF as well, jRPGs don't do dialogue trees. Here you have the same thing as in every FF, but instead of pressing X to hear the dialogue, you just need to walk past. Wtf were the reviewers playing?

Agreed. Some of the reviews really do sound like they never actually comprehended how JRPGs work before, and see a reduction in functionality where there really, truly only is streamlining.
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Diffense
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(03-06-2010, 09:46 AM)
Honestly, I think Square was labouring under the expectations of presentation and graphics.
With a strange irony I have noticed games contract and become less grand as systems have become more powerful and graphics more detailed.
Given a certain amount of money you can build a large house of wood or a rather small one of gold.

I found some of the comments about removal of towns, etc. very interesting.
I also hated the idea of subordinating gameplay to the demands of storytelling by having the story force linearity.
They are letting peripheral things like high definition graphics and story gimp the game itself.
The tail should not be wagging the dog.

On the positive side the new battle system sounds interesting and it is certainly a beautiful game.
But I think Square needs to take a step back from its own graphics whorism.
In this age we're saying that towns aren't possible because it'll be too expensive to make them look real when in the past we said the game needs towns, who cares if they look like lego.
Jswanko
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(03-06-2010, 09:53 AM)
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So glad this game is getting some love in this thread. A lot of people have been hating and its making me feel bad about pre-ordereing it.

Haven't played a FF all the way through since IX but I cant wait to play this one.
duckroll
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(03-06-2010, 09:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by BboyDubC

So does the 360 US version have optional japanese audio? If not, does the Japanese version have English text? Basically does any version have Japanese audio with subtitles for 360?

The only 360 version of FFXIII which exists is the English one.
Castor Krieg
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(03-06-2010, 10:04 AM)

Originally Posted by Diffense

But I think Square needs to take a step back from its own graphics whorism.
In this age we're saying that towns aren't possible because it'll be too expensive to make them look real when in the past we said the game needs towns, who cares if they look like lego.

Keep saying that. Then boot FFXIII and see the opening movie on HD TV. Or play a bit and see Lindblum emerge from the clouds. We will talk then.

As for the "towns" remark - you really want parts of your game uneven? HD movies and graphic and Lego SD towns?
Empty
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(03-06-2010, 10:16 AM)
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Feels like ages since i last played a mainline Final Fantasy, and the wait has been very long (thank god for simultaneous NA and EU launch though) but i'm excited to pick up my copy on tuesday.
Mandoric
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(03-06-2010, 10:16 AM)

Originally Posted by Castor Krieg

Keep saying that. Then boot FFXIII and see the opening movie on HD TV. Or play a bit and see Lindblum emerge from the clouds. We will talk then.

As for the "towns" remark - you really want parts of your game uneven? HD movies and graphic and Lego SD towns?

We've got another team at the same company currently putting together detailed, NPC-packed towns in the same engine on the same platforms, so I'm not sure what you two are on about.
elektrixx
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(03-06-2010, 10:20 AM)
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Has anyone here got the official guide? I wouldn't mind seeing shots of that.
Firestorm
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(03-06-2010, 10:21 AM)
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Looking at my friends list and seeing my friend playing FFXIII has been very annoying for these past few hours! At least Heavy Rain is out of the way so I can free up my PS3 for Tuesday :)
kadotsu
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(03-06-2010, 10:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by elektrixxx

Has anyone here got the official guide? I wouldn't mind seeing shots of that.

http://amazon.vo.llnwd.net/o2/amazon...DE_PREVIEW.pdf
Slackbladder
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(03-06-2010, 10:23 AM)
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About the Edge review, I simply can not believe that FFXIII received a score of 5/10. I mean, fuck me - Dynasty Warriors 6 got 7/10 from Edge (and I do like the DW series, but no way did it deserve that score). Maybe FFXIII is too big a scalp not to take, given the chance. No mercy for such a AAA title!
Oh well, doesn't really matter. Edge are just wrong. It happens, you know.
Castor Krieg
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(03-06-2010, 10:24 AM)

Originally Posted by Mandoric

We've got another team at the same company currently putting together detailed, NPC-packed towns in the same engine on the same platforms, so I'm not sure what you two are on about.

Was reffering to his idea, that we could've any towns, even not up to HD standard. Myself, I really don't care. Make towns, don't make towns, big deal. These are gimmicks, nowhere in RPG Designer Bible did it say "You need to have towns in your game, with multiple NPCs, shops, places of interest, etc.".
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Durante
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(03-06-2010, 10:26 AM)
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Originally Posted by Slackbladder

About the Edge review, I simply can not believe that FFXIII received a score of 5/10.

It would have maybe surprised me before they gave Dragon Age a 5. I don't think anything they do can surprise (or, it has to be said, interest) me after that.
Knight77
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(03-06-2010, 10:38 AM)
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Gonna start today the European 360 version, hope it's good as I hope...
Wiseblade
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(03-06-2010, 10:41 AM)
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Is it wrong I'm considering getting the collector's edition simply for the boxart? :lol
Firestorm
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(03-06-2010, 10:43 AM)
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Originally Posted by Slackbladder

About the Edge review, I simply can not believe that FFXIII received a score of 5/10. I mean, fuck me - Dynasty Warriors 6 got 7/10 from Edge (and I do like the DW series, but no way did it deserve that score). Maybe FFXIII is too big a scalp not to take, given the chance. No mercy for such a AAA title!
Oh well, doesn't really matter. Edge are just wrong. It happens, you know.

Which parts of their review do you disagree with? What would you say contradicts your own experience with the game?
Empty
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(03-06-2010, 10:48 AM)
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Originally Posted by Slackbladder

About the Edge review, I simply can not believe that FFXIII received a score of 5/10. I mean, fuck me - Dynasty Warriors 6 got 7/10 from Edge (and I do like the DW series, but no way did it deserve that score). Maybe FFXIII is too big a scalp not to take, given the chance. No mercy for such a AAA title!
Oh well, doesn't really matter. Edge are just wrong. It happens, you know.

You know review scores aren't used to create a single ranking of all videogames relative to eachother. With those scores they aren't saying that FFXIII is worse than DW6, they are saying that FFXIII is an average rpg whereas DW6 is a good character action game.
Merovin
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(03-06-2010, 10:49 AM)
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I cannot wait for this to arrive! My copy was dispatched yesterday, here's to hoping it comes on Monday!
zoukka
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(03-06-2010, 11:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by Wiseblade

Is it wrong I'm considering getting the collector's edition simply for the boxart? :lol

It's fine as long as you never ever in your life complain about money :)
Mandoric
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(03-06-2010, 11:18 AM)

Originally Posted by Firestorm

Which parts of their review do you disagree with? What would you say contradicts your own experience with the game?

There's very little actual content in the review to pick at, but a couple key points:
* Suggesting that you don't have complete control until hour 20 is like suggesting that you don't have it until hour 20 in FF5 because that's when you get your last job crystal, or FF6 because that's when you get your last Esper.
* All of the characters apparently fell flat for the reviewer, which is a matter of personal tastes but is probably pretty unlikely.
* You have to have a pretty damn high opinion of the importance of narrative in a game to say "one of the best gameplay systems in the genre, I hated the cast, it gets a 5". Even a non-curved 5.
zoukka
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(03-06-2010, 11:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mandoric

There's very little actual content in the review to pick at, but a couple key points:
* Suggesting that you don't have complete control until hour 20 is like suggesting that you don't have it until hour 20 in FF5 because that's when you get your last job crystal, or FF6 because that's when you get your last Esper.
* All of the characters apparently fell flat for the reviewer, which is a matter of personal tastes but is probably pretty unlikely.
* You have to have a pretty damn high opinion of the importance of narrative in a game to say "one of the best gameplay systems in the genre, I hated the cast, it gets a 5". Even a non-curved 5.

You just don't understand how EDGE polices their reviews. They don't do them with calculators and formulas about the different areas of the game. If they have a bitter taste in their mouth after completing the game, then it's going to show in the score. It doesn't matter how many millions went to motion capture and in modelling of Snow's beard.

I find it funny that people can't embrace this. I mean they don't review movies and music based on their production values...
Nexus Zero
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(03-06-2010, 11:33 AM)
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Dispatched on Thursday but didn't come today. Guess I'll be waiting until Monday, what am I meant to do with my weekend!
PumpkinPie
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(03-06-2010, 11:35 AM)
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Originally Posted by fernoca

Love this video.
(No spoilers..is just the party walking around the map)


Bet it was posted already, but I've been avoiding videos of the game and overall info, just keep an eye on pictures and overall discussion here and there. Decided to look for a video, because a friend and I were wondering if the characters stay with you when joining your party or you "absorb them" like in many RPGs.. :p ..so the video answered that question..and wow..looks big..pretty..and so full of enemies.. :lol

This game was not even on my radar (even though I've played most FF games), I had sold my 360 and PS3 and had basically no interest after reading the negative comments. I watched that video about 2 hours ago, went straight to the shop and bought a new 360 arcade and my copy of FFXIII will be here on monday :D
Mandoric
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(03-06-2010, 11:40 AM)

Originally Posted by zoukka

You just don't understand how EDGE polices their reviews. They don't do them with calculators and formulas about the different areas of the game. If they have a bitter taste in their mouth after completing the game, then it's going to show in the score. It doesn't matter how many millions went to motion capture and in modelling of Snow's beard.

I find it funny that people can't embrace this. I mean they don't review movies and music based on their production values...

Where the hell did production values come in? :lol The dude said in his own review that the actual gameplay is best-in-genre and he just doesn't like the plot, if the plot is that important to you I'd question why you're playing games at all.

The insistence that the game doesn't start until 20 hours in is also absurd as noted, and while "only the second true FF since 2002" is technically accurate, there's this sneaking feeling that he's thinking back to FF10's delayed Euro release which would also be very wrong and show some pretty unprofessional fanboy butthurt. Would you take a review of Halo Reach seriously that lead with the line "the first -real- Halo game with online play"?
CruxisMana
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(03-06-2010, 11:54 AM)
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Nice OP.

The mail man just came to our door with a game sized package... then promptly left and delivered it next door.

:(
Audioboxer87
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(03-06-2010, 12:01 PM)

Originally Posted by CruxisMana

Nice OP.

The mail man just came to our door with a game sized package... then promptly left and delivered it next door.

:(

That's the biggest kick in the nads ever :lol

My copy should arrive Tuesday :)

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