[tsab]

GAF I really need your input on this.
I played some games on dolphin, or rather tested. The thing is I love how the games look and play. Unfortunately my PC is not good enough to play them full speed. So I have decided sell my old PC parts that need upgrade (damn you intel with your new sockets every 3 months).

I am thinking of buying a i5 2500K, overclocked should be sufficient to play (from previous posts and replies I got in these thread).
So in short GAF, according to your experience can I playalmost any heavy Wii game at full speed?

Please note that I am only upgrading for dolphin.


My current specs:
Q9300@3.00GHz
Gigabyte Geforce 460SuperClocked

Future Specs:
i5 2500K
will keep the GPU

tl;dr
i5 2500k plays Galaxy2 and Skyward Sword @ 60fps? 720/1080p. AA not necessary

[Durante]

Nothing plays those games at 60 fps. They are 30 fps games.

An overclocked 2500k with a 460 should be able to play most Wii games perfectly though.

[BlueMagic]

Wait a minute, isn't Galaxy 2 locked at 60 fps?

Anyway, how would a Phenom II X4 + 5670 perform? Would SS be playable enough?

[Beats]

Nothing plays those games at 60 fps. They are 30 fps games. An overclocked 2500k with a 460 should be able to play most Wii games perfectly though.

Mario Galaxy 2 runs at 60fps.

Wait a minute, isn't Galaxy 2 locked at 60 fps? Anyway, how would a Phenom II X4 + 5670 perform?

I have an X4 at 3.8GHz, and a GTX 460 (not sure how that compares to a 5670). I can run most games at full speed.

[Durante]

Mario Galaxy 2 runs at 60fps.

Oh, that's impressive!

Goes to show what I know never having played the game. In any case, my point still applies to Zelda.

[MCD]

Man, I spent two hours messing around with the audio stuttering in Metroid: Other M and I can say that LTE sure fixes up all that crackling noise/out of sync cutscenes but you need to overclock whatever you have and I am too much of a pussy to do it.

What I did with my Asus Crosshair V/AMD 1100T is set it to auto overclocking and it jumped from 3300 to 3700. Pretty safe for a virgin overclocker.

[tsab]

Man, I spent two hours messing around with the audio stuttering in Metroid: Other M and I can say that LTE sure fixes up all that crackling noise/out of sync cutscenes but you need to overclock whatever you have and I am too much of a pussy to do it. What I did with my Asus Crosshair V/AMD 1100T is set it to auto overclocking and it jumped from 3300 to 3700. Pretty safe for a virgin overclocker.

You have a i5 2500K I presume.
Out of 10 how much would you rate your CPU towards my goal, full speed emulation at HD/HD Ready resolution without AA?

Whoever have that CPU please reply



Edit: oh I see you have a AMD CPU

[Revoh]

tsab, I have a 2500k and it's one hell of a CPU, make sure you buy a custom Cooler aswell, like the Hyper 212+. You'll need it to overclock it to 4.5 Ghz easily. Seriously, buy it.

[Azar]

You have a i5 2500K I presume. Out of 10 how much would you rate your CPU towards my goal, full speed emulation at HD/HD Ready resolution without AA? Whoever have that CPU please reply Edit: oh I see you have a AMD CPU

Better than an i3. Not as good as an i7.

[tsab]

Better than an i3. Not as good as an i7.

Thank you, I need to find it about 2500k though. I haven't followed the CPU trend since socket 775/AM2

I apologise if my previous response seemed a little bit offensive or rude, that was the result of 3 posts mixed together :s

[Thrakier]

I don't think that a 100% perfect emulation of SMG2 is possible now. There will always be dips.

[MCD]

@tsab Yeah, I went with AMD because I wanted to try something new this time and it's a cool ride so far.

Whether you have the best shit in town, I bet you will find at least one or two games that always have that annoying frame dropping or sound stuttering. That's what I think anyway.

[Hot Coldman]

Skyward Sword again:

Quoting to say that I fucking love this shot. Good work.

[Refreshment.01]

This has been on my mind for some time. I noticed some of the guys here did or are doing runs of Twilight Princess.

Has anyone tried, if its even possible, to modify how the controllers work with glovepie or something. What i want to know is if anybody was able to do the different sword swings with gestures. And if the game is playable that way?

Edit: The reason i ask is because was always intrigued of why Nintendo didn't do it themselves, accelerometers seem good enough to detect basic directions for the swings.

[hioh631]

Don't feel so bad, there's a chance you will have to play on both because the game is not quite bug free on Dolphin from what I heard

I've gone back to playing on Wii, just too many minor issues that add up and annoy the crap out of me. Dolphin is cool to mess around with, but for playing through games start to finish especially for the first time it is not ideal.

[Mudkips]

My Wii still likes to listen to my Wii Remote that's paired to Dolphin.
Every time I finish using Dolphin I have to go downstairs and make sure the Wii wasn't turned on.

Also - is there anyway to calibrate the IR settings when using a real Wii Remote? My shit seems so slow and sluggish when moving the cursor around. If I stand further back it's a bit better, but not by much.

Though Wii Play didn't have the problem, and I've only tested the main menu of Skyward Sword, and not the actual game (it was during my lunch break, my wireless sensor bar arrived today).

[tsab]

My Wii still likes to listen to my Wii Remote that's paired to Dolphin. Every time I finish using Dolphin I have to go downstairs and make sure the Wii wasn't turned on. Also - is there anyway to calibrate the IR settings when using a real Wii Remote? My shit seems so slow and sluggish when moving the cursor around. If I stand further back it's a bit better, but not by much. Though Wii Play didn't have the problem, and I've only tested the main menu of Skyward Sword, and not the actual game (it was during my lunch break, my wireless sensor bar arrived today).

I think the SS menu uses the motion plus only and not sensor bar.

[mattiewheels]

I had a perfect dolphin setup with that latest 'dirty' build, and Skyward Sword ran really smoothly...then I updated to the latest numbered build to take care of the graphic glitch in SS and now it stutters like crazy. I feel like all my settings are identical, anyone know about this?

[Zoramon089]

What annoys me is Dolphin not running at full speed when, based on the CPU gadget on my desktop, I can see it isn't maxing out my ram or CPUs...it's annoying

[Ysiadmihi]

Does the online multiplayer work in Dolphin? I know WFC won't work, but what about something like coop Double Dash?

[Haunted]

I had a perfect dolphin setup with that latest 'dirty' build, and Skyward Sword ran really smoothly...then I updated to the latest numbered build to take care of the graphic glitch in SS and now it stutters like crazy. I feel like all my settings are identical, anyone know about this?

The latest build does introduce problems.

I use an older revision Thoraxes recommended (r7719) specifically for Skyward Sword, it works flawlessly. No graphical glitches, no stuttering. With emulation, you don't always want the latest.

[Haunted]

Also - is there anyway to calibrate the IR settings when using a real Wii Remote? My shit seems so slow and sluggish when moving the cursor around. If I stand further back it's a bit better, but not by much. Though Wii Play didn't have the problem, and I've only tested the main menu of Skyward Sword, and not the actual game (it was during my lunch break, my wireless sensor bar arrived today).

No IR in Skyward Sword, only M+. The menu cursor does move slower and more sluggish as a result.

[Crunched]

This has been on my mind for some time. I noticed some of the guys here did or are doing runs of Twilight Princess. Has anyone tried, if its even possible, to modify how the controllers work with glovepie or something. What i want to know is if anybody was able to do the different sword swings with gestures. And if the game is playable that way? Edit: The reason i ask is because was always intrigued of why Nintendo didn't do it themselves, accelerometers seem good enough to detect basic directions for the swings.

I don't think this is possible. I'm not sure exactly what you're asking. I played with the swings mapped to a 360 controller's right analog stick for about half the game. But "swinging" in TP is just replacing a button press. It is literally doing the same thing as an input. There are no "different swings," there's just Link's regular sword slash, like in any 3D Zelda.

[Medalion]

Emulation is not perfect, it's the price you pay for having better graphics catering games to a system not natively setup for them... there will always be problems even if you have super powerful hardware

[Crunched]

Emulation is not perfect, it's the price you pay for having better graphics catering games to a system not natively setup for them... there will always be problems even if you have super powerful hardware

In some games, sure. Many work without issue, or with minor enough bugs that the advantages far outweigh any potential problems.

I'm updating my SS album with images up to and around dungeon 4. Spoilers abound.

[Scarecrow]

Really tempted to Dolphin up Skyward Sword. I haven't used Dolphin before, but how long would it take to get it up and running to play games? Playing on a tv feels so blurry right now with the wii.

[Varna]

Really tempted to Dolphin up Skyward Sword. I haven't used Dolphin before, but how long would it take to get it up and running to play games? Playing on a tv feels so blurry right now with the wii.

About two minutes. Assuming you already have the game ripped of course.

[felipepl]

Really tempted to Dolphin up Skyward Sword. I haven't used Dolphin before, but how long would it take to get it up and running to play games? Playing on a tv feels so blurry right now with the wii.

With the correct hardware, dumped ISO and correct settings? 2 minutes.
EDIT - lol, beaten.

[Crunched]

It takes about 25 additional minutes to rip the game via usbloader.

[Scarecrow]

But apparently I need some sort of blue tooth adapter?

[Caelus]

Something weird, putting 4x AA on TWW actually made it go faster... went from 73% average to about 85% to 90%. Worked consistently. By the way, what else should I disable?

[Crunched]

But apparently I need some sort of blue tooth adapter?

If you want to connect a wiimote, yes. It's necessary to play Skyward Sword.

[Scarecrow]

If you want to connect a wiimote, yes. It's necessary to play Skyward Sword.

well, damn. out of luck.

[Crunched]

well, damn. out of luck.

Bluetooth adapters cost almost nothing. What's to stop you from getting one?

[Scarecrow]

Bluetooth adapters cost almost nothing. What's to stop you from getting one?

Never dicked around with a BT device before. I'm checking out this list from the OP, but there's a ton of choices. Can anyone recommend a dependable, fairly cheap one and where to get it (say, a quick trip to Target/Walmart sort of dealie)?

Also, thanks for the help.

[Jtrizzy]

Wanted to ask for some advice here. I recently built a high end pc (2600k/580) and would love to get dolphin going. Problem is, I sold my Wii and games about 6 months ago. The games just looked terrible on my 50" plasma, even with the component cables. Also, I really didn't like waggle, especially with DKCR.

The only games I owned for the system are the ones I want to play with Dolphin...DKCR, and the Mario Galaxy games. I am fervently against piracy, but I'm wondering if there is a way I can do it with without re buying a wii, and games. Again, I am all about devs getting their money etc, I don't buy used and would never play a game that I didn't own. I even have pics playing DKCR on the plasma, so please don't say I'm trying to do anything illegal.

WiiU is still a year away right? I am dying to play these games, I just couldn't get through them with SD/waggle. My understanding is that you can play DKCR and MG with a 360 controller...but I think my mobo has a blutooth adapter anyway.

[Buttonbasher]

Never dicked around with a BT device before. I'm checking out this list from the OP, but there's a ton of choices. Can anyone recommend a dependable, fairly cheap one and where to get it (say, a quick trip to Target/Walmart sort of dealie)? Also, thanks for the help.

I'm using this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...00_i00_details

[hioh631]

Wanted to ask for some advice here. I recently built a high end pc (2600k/580) and would love to get dolphin going. Problem is, I sold my Wii and games about 6 months ago. The games just looked terrible on my 50" plasma, even with the component cables. Also, I really didn't like waggle, especially with DKCR. The only games I owned for the system are the ones I want to play with Dolphin...DKCR, and the Mario Galaxy games. I am fervently against piracy, but I'm wondering if there is a way I can do it with without re buying a wii, and games. Again, I am all about devs getting their money etc, I don't buy used and would never play a game that I didn't own. I even have pics playing DKCR on the plasma, so please don't say I'm trying to do anything illegal.

Well if you don't own the games then it is illegal and would be considered piracy... no way around that.

[Jtrizzy]

Well if you don't own the games then it is illegal and would be considered piracy... no way around that.

I owned the games within the last 6 months, I guess you have to have them in your possession currently?

[domlolz]

I owned the games within the last 6 months, I guess you have to have them in your possession currently?

Yes you do, to rip them. I'd end the discussion here though, you'll end up getting banned.

e:even ripping the games is probably against some law, if breaking the law ain't your thing.

[Jtrizzy]

thanks for the replies...I ca just wait for WiiU.

[HenryGale]

So running in bootcamp how well can my iMac handle this or at all?

3.4 Ghz i7 quad core
8GB 1333 ram
AMD 2 GB 6970m

Never had any interest until I saw skyward sword pics. Holy hell. The Wii could look amazing if it only had enough horsepower to run in higher res.

[Refreshment.01]

I don't think this is possible. I'm not sure exactly what you're asking. I played with the swings mapped to a 360 controller's right analog stick for about half the game. But "swinging" in TP is just replacing a button press. It is literally doing the same thing as an input. There are no "different swings," there's just Link's regular sword slash, like in any 3D Zelda.

Let' see crunched:

I played Twilight Princess at launch so i might be recalling it wrong, but it was possible to change the directions of the sword swings by shaking the remote and pressing the thumbstick in different directions.

I'll ilustrate with an example. To make Link slash horizontally from left to right, the user shakes the controller while holding right on the thumbstick. So im asking if anyone has managed to map that input combination to a Wii remote gesture. Like say for the past example (the left to right horizontal swing) move the Wii remote from left to right. Or for a vertical slice moving the Wii remote up/down and down/up.

Think its a bit more clear what i was asking later :)

[jediyoshi]

Let' see crunched: I played Twilight Princess at launch so i might be recalling it wrong, but it was possible to change the directions of the sword swings by shaking the remote and pressing the thumbstick in different directions. I'll ilustrate with an example. To make Link slash horizontally from left to right, the user shakes the controller while holding right on the thumbstick. So im asking if anyone has managed to map that input combination to a Wii remote gesture. Like say for the past example (the left to right horizontal swing) move the Wii remote from left to right. Or for a vertical slice moving the Wii remote up/down and down/up.

Nope. You have the regular attack, jump slash, and spin attack. They couldn't have had any unique controls be relevant either way since the GameCube version is mostly gameplay identical.

[Medalion]

thanks for the replies...I ca just wait for WiiU.

U might as well learn... wii-u won't re-render nor upconvert ur wii games like Dolphin does.

[Schlomo]

Nope. You have the regular attack, jump slash, and spin attack. They couldn't have had any unique controls be relevant either way since the GameCube version is mostly gameplay identical.

There's not just the regular attack. Even in OoT you could do vertical and horizontal swings, and stabs. It just didn't have any really impact except for attack range.

[Wolf Akela]

Tried out the MH3 demo again. It still has the old bloom glitch, but I can live with it.

Intel i3-2100
Sapphire HD 5850 Xtreme
Gskill 8GB DDR3 1600

Running fullspeed on 2.5x scaling with 4x AA and some AF setting I forgot.

[wabo]

You will say WOW.

[Beats]

Tried out the MH3 demo again. It still has the old bloom glitch, but I can live with it. Intel i3-2100 Sapphire HD 5850 Xtreme Gskill 8GB DDR3 1600 Running fullspeed on 2.5x scaling with 4x AA and some AF setting I forgot.

I'm pretty sure you can get rid of the bloom or whatever that is. The shots I posted earlier don't look like that. (link)

Is the bloom glitch only for the demo build?

[Wolf Akela]

Is there some sort of specific setting for the latest version that fixes bloom? I'm too lazy to rip the full game right now but before I upgraded, I remember the demo and full version had the bloom issue. I checked out the Dolphin wiki and it still mentions it.