You're going to get shit for that ducky, just saying :lolOriginally Posted by Chinner
New Labour:: Opposing party, Harriet Harman currently acting as party leader with Gordon Brown resigning as PM, but has leadership elections coming soon. Stands for the people (apparently), but is actually turning into the Tories.
I can't see many arguing with the angry Goose.Originally Posted by Xavien
You're going to get shit for that ducky, just saying :lol
Truth hurts. To actually think New Labour are 'progressives' is a utter laugh. The whole point of the New Labour experiment is to make it more right wing and business orientated. Personally, I'd prefer if they just stopped and brought back the Old Labour or the New Old Labour or whatever.Originally Posted by Xavien
You're going to get shit for that ducky, just saying :lol
It's better that way, being a borderline oxymoron :DOriginally Posted by painey
they have referred to themselves as the Liberal Conservatives, not the Conservative Democrats by the way.
Edit: beaten!
Wow, every single party is on its way to the Authoritarian Right (except the tories which never moved from there), seems strange considering everyone says that the Lib Dems are "left of centre".Originally Posted by SmokyDave
I can't see many arguing with the angry Goose.
I agree with you, but Thatcher's legacy seems to have an inescapable grip on all parties.Originally Posted by Chinner
Truth hurts. To actually think New Labour are 'progressives' is a utter laugh. The whole point of the New Labour experiment is to make it more right wing and business orientated. Personally, I'd prefer if they just stopped and brought back the Old Labour or the New Old Labour or whatever.
Pleasantly surprised that he speaks Dutch so fluently. The guy is a man of the world.
ughOriginally Posted by Souldriver
I hope the Lib Dems don't take Cameron hostage so that the new government can finally fix the country, like Thatcher did 30 years ago.
Yeah, because that didn't cause massive problems later down the line...Originally Posted by Souldriver
I hope the Lib Dems don't take Cameron hostage so that the new government can finally fix the country, like Thatcher did 30 years ago.
'Fix' in the sense used by a belligerent drunk wielding a barstool.
'I'll fix you, Southern twat'.
That must have been some fix if it needs doing again.Originally Posted by Souldriver
I hope the Lib Dems don't take Cameron hostage so that the new government can finally fix the country, like Thatcher did 30 years ago.
Originally Posted by Chinner
Truth hurts. To actually think New Labour are 'progressives' is a utter laugh. The whole point of the New Labour experiment is to make it more right wing and business orientated. Personally, I'd prefer if they just stopped and brought back the Old Labour or the New Old Labour or whatever.
Labour Classic?
Well, Milliband is a Blairite, and the most likely leader. I'd say the chances of old labour coming back is low.Originally Posted by Chinner
Truth hurts. To actually think New Labour are 'progressives' is a utter laugh. The whole point of the New Labour experiment is to make it more right wing and business orientated. Personally, I'd prefer if they just stopped and brought back the Old Labour or the New Old Labour or whatever.
Fix in the sense one might restore an iconic avatar, maybe?Originally Posted by Salazar
:lol
'Fix' in the sense used by a belligerent drunk wielding a barstool.
'I'll fix you, Southern twat'.
Originally Posted by Jexhius
Yeah, because that didn't cause massive problems later down the line...
It all went downhill when Thatcher was gone. Labour singlehandedly dragged us into a financial crisi....I can't do it. I'm just trolling guys. But I'd rather not ruin this newborn thread already. Either way, I'm sure somewhere along the line, someone will say what I just said but be dead serious about it.Originally Posted by Peru
ugh
I cannot have a photograph of Alan Clark riding a baby blue sportscar while a Conservative government is (in however qualified a fashion) in power.Originally Posted by SmokyDave
Fix in the sense one might restore an iconic avatar, maybe?
I cherish the man's memory, but his party has its vile patches.
Wow. Seriously. I'm sure many European nations would appreciate a British politician actually bothering to learn some languages other than English for a change.Originally Posted by PjotrStroganov
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XmO-4G9T0E
Pleasantly surprised that he speaks Dutch so fluently. The guy is a man of the world.
Fixed.Originally Posted by Chinner
Like Tony Blair? He had pretty decent French.Originally Posted by Juicy Bob
Wow. Seriously. I'm sure many European nations would appreciate a British politician actually bothering to learn some languages other than English for a change.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Of_Mice...opular_culture ?Originally Posted by Bleepey
Someone explain the rabbits please.
Well, it is pretty well perfectly the result that I wanted - even though at the polling booth it didn't seem to be an option that was available to me.Originally Posted by Chinner
Is the result we wanted? No, but it’s making the best out a bad situation.
From what it seems to me (and it rather depends who you read) they dropped coalition talks because they had thought the LibDems would folow Labour policy like sheep, were completely taken aback to find they wouldn't and realised too late they had no practical chance of making something that worked anyway.So what’s happening Labour?
They’re becoming the opposing party in the first time in 13 years. From what it seems, They decided to drop coalition talks so that they could scrutinise the government better and have a better chance of getting in on the next election.
... and perhaps gain squilions of votes elsewhere? Doesn't sound all that clear a lose/lose.What does this mean for the Lib Dems?
They are in power for the first time in 70 years. They have positions at the cabinet and will get to implement their own influence power. Overall, it may be a lose/lose situation as the Lib Dems may lose votes in Scotland.
I'm sad, but I guess I understand. It just suited your posting style so well. At least your name still reminds me to run off and image search 'Luciana Salazar' at least once a day.Originally Posted by Salazar
I cannot have a photograph of Alan Clark riding a baby blue sportscar while a Conservative government is (in however qualified a fashion) in power.
I cherish the man's memory, but his party has its vile patches.
Really? I was not aware of that, to be honest.Originally Posted by defel1111
Like Tony Blair? He had pretty decent French.
Very hard to say. Some say that Labour thought the talks were going fine, and that they made concessions. If that's true, then the Liberal Democrats weren't taking those negotiations seriously and they simply used them as a device to gain a better deal with the Conservatives. Then the Liberal Democrats just plastered over the situation by saying "Labour were too inflexible".Originally Posted by phisheep
From what it seems to me (and it rather depends who you read) they dropped coalition talks because they had thought the LibDems would folow Labour policy like sheep, were completely taken aback to find they wouldn't and realised too late they had no practical chance of making something that worked anyway.
Yup, I read in the newspaper that he speaks 5 languages fluently (including German). Clegg seems like the kind of politician I would vote for if I lived in the UK.Originally Posted by PjotrStroganov
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XmO-4G9T0E
Pleasantly surprised that he speaks Dutch so fluently. The guy is a man of the world.
But there's nothing British about Nick Clegg.Originally Posted by close to the edge
Yup, I read in the newspaper that he speaks 5 languages fluently (including German). Clegg seems like the kind of politician I would vote for if I lived in the UK.
holy fuckOriginally Posted by PjotrStroganov
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XmO-4G9T0E
Pleasantly surprised that he speaks Dutch so fluently. The guy is a man of the world.
It's so surreal to see him speak Dutch right now. He's extraordinarily fluent at it.
More reasons to love the guy!
British politics needs a bloody great shake up.Originally Posted by SmokyDave
I can't see many arguing with the angry Goose.
Labour became Tory'lite' and now the Tories are TorynewLabour'lite.I don't think it's healthy for democracy.
I demand a tag in compensation :P (joke, junior memebrs cant get tags right?)
anyway, screw the haters, i reckon this government is going to do some good. anybody thinking Liberals betrayed a rainbow coalition are delirious
There isn't?Originally Posted by NekoFever
But there's nothing British about Nick Clegg.
Clegg said it himself in the rose garden in Downing St. He and Cameron really wanted toOriginally Posted by dsister44
damm white duck stole my joke......
I demand a tag in compensation :P (joke, junior memebrs cant get tags right?)
anyway, screw the haters, i reckon this government is going to do some good. anybody thinking Liberals betrayed a rainbow coalition are delirious
go for it.Approaching Labour was just ticking off a box and getting more out of the tories.
And fair enough.
Looking again at the sequence of events, I'd guess that both Labour and LibDems knew they were doing only pretend negotiating with each other on a deal that didn't stack up arithmetically and so wasn't going to work.Originally Posted by Jexhius
Very hard to say. Some say that Labour thought the talks were going fine, and that they made concessions. If that's true, then the Liberal Democrats weren't taking those negotiations seriously and they simply used them as a device to gain a better deal with the Conservatives. Then the Liberal Democrats just plastered over the situation by saying "Labour were too inflexible".
Labour's agenda being to spike the Tories (where the only good outcome was for all Labour policies to be accepted), and LibDem's being to carry their own party (where the only bad outcome is doing a roll-over to Labour).
Given that, it is scarcely surprising that both sides seemed to give off the wrong body language and vibes.
However, since both sides had to say publicly that they assumed the others were negotiating for real, it had to be spun some other way. Hence the different stories.
That sounds like a very logical inference to draw.Originally Posted by phisheep
Looking again at the sequence of events, I'd guess that both Labour and LibDems knew they were doing only pretend negotiating with each other on a deal that didn't stack up arithmetically and so wasn't going to work.
As a political experiment it needs to be consigned to the dustbin of history.
Kay, fixed it.Originally Posted by Empty
Liberal Conservatives is better because the idea of liberals and conservatives working together should blow the minds of americans.
Better? ;p
I'm just glad you didn't resort to hyperbole to express you opinion.Originally Posted by jas0nuk
New Labour was one of the most right-wing authoritarian governments this country has ever had.
Yeah I'm hoping lib-con works out for that very reason. The bi-partisan battle in the US is disgusting, it would be good if the UK set a positive example of getting along.Originally Posted by Empty
Liberal Conservatives is better because the idea of liberals and conservatives working together should blow the minds of americans.
as an outsider, are there any links or anyone willing to throw up an explanation on whats going on with this? How is it currently and what is AV+ and STV... all i heard on the news here was that the Tories are pushing through reform that could cost them seats in the next electionWhat has happened to electoral reform?
The Tories are whipping Alternative Vote (AV) through parliament with a referendum. However, they (and the right wing press) are allowed to campaign against it. Still, AV isn’t proportional and won’t properly represent the views of the country. but it is slightly better with FPTP, will get rid of tactical voting and will prepare voters for AV+ or STV
All the ministers in this coalition are multimillionaires, right?Originally Posted by Mr. Sam
The ministers have agreed to take a 5% paycut. How selfless of these multimillionaires to take a slight paycut.
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