[Chinner]

boring and outdated op

[Meadows]

It's like Labour, but with less CCTV! :D

[Xavien]

New Labour:: Opposing party, Harriet Harman currently acting as party leader with Gordon Brown resigning as PM, but has leadership elections coming soon. Stands for the people (apparently), but is actually turning into the Tories.

You're going to get shit for that ducky, just saying :lol

[Souldriver]

I hope the Lib Dems don't take Cameron hostage so that the new government can finally fix the country, like Thatcher did 30 years ago.

[SmokyDave]

You're going to get shit for that ducky, just saying :lol

I can't see many arguing with the angry Goose.

[painey]

they have referred to themselves as the Liberal Conservatives, not the Conservative Democrats by the way.

[Salazar]

And Mandelson weeps tears of acid in his lair.

[Chinner]

You're going to get shit for that ducky, just saying :lol

Truth hurts. To actually think New Labour are 'progressives' is a utter laugh. The whole point of the New Labour experiment is to make it more right wing and business orientated. Personally, I'd prefer if they just stopped and brought back the Old Labour or the New Old Labour or whatever.

[Acheteedo]

they have referred to themselves as the Liberal Conservatives, not the Conservative Democrats by the way.

It's better that way, being a borderline oxymoron :D

[trudderham]

You've got the name wrong. It's Liberal Conservatives.

Edit: beaten!

[Xavien]

I can't see many arguing with the angry Goose.

Wow, every single party is on its way to the Authoritarian Right (except the tories which never moved from there), seems strange considering everyone says that the Lib Dems are "left of centre".

Truth hurts. To actually think New Labour are 'progressives' is a utter laugh. The whole point of the New Labour experiment is to make it more right wing and business orientated. Personally, I'd prefer if they just stopped and brought back the Old Labour or the New Old Labour or whatever.

I agree with you, but Thatcher's legacy seems to have an inescapable grip on all parties.

[PjotrStroganov]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XmO-4G9T0E


Pleasantly surprised that he speaks Dutch so fluently. The guy is a man of the world.

[Peru]

I hope the Lib Dems don't take Cameron hostage so that the new government can finally fix the country, like Thatcher did 30 years ago.

ugh

[Jexhius]

I hope the Lib Dems don't take Cameron hostage so that the new government can finally fix the country, like Thatcher did 30 years ago.

Yeah, because that didn't cause massive problems later down the line...

[Salazar]

:lol

'Fix' in the sense used by a belligerent drunk wielding a barstool.

'I'll fix you, Southern twat'.

[Dead Man]

I hope the Lib Dems don't take Cameron hostage so that the new government can finally fix the country, like Thatcher did 30 years ago.

That must have been some fix if it needs doing again.

[electroshockwave]

Truth hurts. To actually think New Labour are 'progressives' is a utter laugh. The whole point of the New Labour experiment is to make it more right wing and business orientated. Personally, I'd prefer if they just stopped and brought back the Old Labour or the New Old Labour or whatever.

Labour Classic?

[killer_clank]

Truth hurts. To actually think New Labour are 'progressives' is a utter laugh. The whole point of the New Labour experiment is to make it more right wing and business orientated. Personally, I'd prefer if they just stopped and brought back the Old Labour or the New Old Labour or whatever.

Well, Milliband is a Blairite, and the most likely leader. I'd say the chances of old labour coming back is low.

[SmokyDave]

:lol 'Fix' in the sense used by a belligerent drunk wielding a barstool. 'I'll fix you, Southern twat'.

Fix in the sense one might restore an iconic avatar, maybe?

[Souldriver]

Yeah, because that didn't cause massive problems later down the line...

ugh

It all went downhill when Thatcher was gone. Labour singlehandedly dragged us into a financial crisi....I can't do it. I'm just trolling guys. But I'd rather not ruin this newborn thread already. Either way, I'm sure somewhere along the line, someone will say what I just said but be dead serious about it.

[Salazar]

Fix in the sense one might restore an iconic avatar, maybe?

I cannot have a photograph of Alan Clark riding a baby blue sportscar while a Conservative government is (in however qualified a fashion) in power.

I cherish the man's memory, but his party has its vile patches.

[Juicy Bob]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XmO-4G9T0E Pleasantly surprised that he speaks Dutch so fluently. The guy is a man of the world.

Wow. Seriously. I'm sure many European nations would appreciate a British politician actually bothering to learn some languages other than English for a change.

[iapetus]

Conservative (also known as Those Tory Bastards)

Fixed.

[Bleepey]

Someone explain the rabbits please.

[defel]

Wow. Seriously. I'm sure many European nations would appreciate a British politician actually bothering to learn some languages other than English for a change.

Like Tony Blair? He had pretty decent French.

[iapetus]

Someone explain the rabbits please.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Of_Mice...opular_culture ?

[Meadows]

BREAKING NEWS: Agriculture Minister changes post name to Minister for Livin' off the fatta da lan'

[Jexhius]

Well, fingers crossed I guess.

[phisheep]

For a slightly alternative view:

Is the result we wanted? No, but it’s making the best out a bad situation.

Well, it is pretty well perfectly the result that I wanted - even though at the polling booth it didn't seem to be an option that was available to me.

So what’s happening Labour? They’re becoming the opposing party in the first time in 13 years. From what it seems, They decided to drop coalition talks so that they could scrutinise the government better and have a better chance of getting in on the next election.

From what it seems to me (and it rather depends who you read) they dropped coalition talks because they had thought the LibDems would folow Labour policy like sheep, were completely taken aback to find they wouldn't and realised too late they had no practical chance of making something that worked anyway.

What does this mean for the Lib Dems? They are in power for the first time in 70 years. They have positions at the cabinet and will get to implement their own influence power. Overall, it may be a lose/lose situation as the Lib Dems may lose votes in Scotland.

... and perhaps gain squilions of votes elsewhere? Doesn't sound all that clear a lose/lose.

[SmokyDave]

I cannot have a photograph of Alan Clark riding a baby blue sportscar while a Conservative government is (in however qualified a fashion) in power. I cherish the man's memory, but his party has its vile patches.

I'm sad, but I guess I understand. It just suited your posting style so well. At least your name still reminds me to run off and image search 'Luciana Salazar' at least once a day.

[Juicy Bob]

Like Tony Blair? He had pretty decent French.

Really? I was not aware of that, to be honest.

[Jexhius]

From what it seems to me (and it rather depends who you read) they dropped coalition talks because they had thought the LibDems would folow Labour policy like sheep, were completely taken aback to find they wouldn't and realised too late they had no practical chance of making something that worked anyway.

Very hard to say. Some say that Labour thought the talks were going fine, and that they made concessions. If that's true, then the Liberal Democrats weren't taking those negotiations seriously and they simply used them as a device to gain a better deal with the Conservatives. Then the Liberal Democrats just plastered over the situation by saying "Labour were too inflexible".

[close to the edge]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XmO-4G9T0E Pleasantly surprised that he speaks Dutch so fluently. The guy is a man of the world.

Yup, I read in the newspaper that he speaks 5 languages fluently (including German). Clegg seems like the kind of politician I would vote for if I lived in the UK.

[NekoFever]

Yup, I read in the newspaper that he speaks 5 languages fluently (including German). Clegg seems like the kind of politician I would vote for if I lived in the UK.

But there's nothing British about Nick Clegg.

[Veidt]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XmO-4G9T0E Pleasantly surprised that he speaks Dutch so fluently. The guy is a man of the world.

holy fuck
It's so surreal to see him speak Dutch right now. He's extraordinarily fluent at it.
More reasons to love the guy!

[PJV3]

I can't see many arguing with the angry Goose.

British politics needs a bloody great shake up.
Labour became Tory'lite' and now the Tories are TorynewLabour'lite.I don't think it's healthy for democracy.

[dsister44]

damm white duck stole my joke......




I demand a tag in compensation :P (joke, junior memebrs cant get tags right?)







anyway, screw the haters, i reckon this government is going to do some good. anybody thinking Liberals betrayed a rainbow coalition are delirious

[close to the edge]

But there's nothing British about Nick Clegg.

There isn't?

[Scotch]

Nick Clegg has a Dutch mother. You can tell he grew up with it because he has no accent whatsoever.

[PJV3]

damm white duck stole my joke...... I demand a tag in compensation :P (joke, junior memebrs cant get tags right?) anyway, screw the haters, i reckon this government is going to do some good. anybody thinking Liberals betrayed a rainbow coalition are delirious

Clegg said it himself in the rose garden in Downing St. He and Cameron really wanted to
go for it.Approaching Labour was just ticking off a box and getting more out of the tories.
And fair enough.

[Empty]

Liberal Conservatives is better because the idea of liberals and conservatives working together should blow the minds of americans.

[phisheep]

Very hard to say. Some say that Labour thought the talks were going fine, and that they made concessions. If that's true, then the Liberal Democrats weren't taking those negotiations seriously and they simply used them as a device to gain a better deal with the Conservatives. Then the Liberal Democrats just plastered over the situation by saying "Labour were too inflexible".

Looking again at the sequence of events, I'd guess that both Labour and LibDems knew they were doing only pretend negotiating with each other on a deal that didn't stack up arithmetically and so wasn't going to work.

Labour's agenda being to spike the Tories (where the only good outcome was for all Labour policies to be accepted), and LibDem's being to carry their own party (where the only bad outcome is doing a roll-over to Labour).

Given that, it is scarcely surprising that both sides seemed to give off the wrong body language and vibes.

However, since both sides had to say publicly that they assumed the others were negotiating for real, it had to be spun some other way. Hence the different stories.

[Jexhius]

Looking again at the sequence of events, I'd guess that both Labour and LibDems knew they were doing only pretend negotiating with each other on a deal that didn't stack up arithmetically and so wasn't going to work.

That sounds like a very logical inference to draw.

[jas0nuk]

New Labour was one of the most right-wing authoritarian governments this country has ever had. I laugh and cringe every time someone like Peter Hain calls them "progressives".

As a political experiment it needs to be consigned to the dustbin of history.

[Varion]

Liberal Conservatives is better because the idea of liberals and conservatives working together should blow the minds of americans.

Kay, fixed it.



Better? ;p

[Mr. Sam]

The ministers have agreed to take a 5% paycut. How selfless of these multimillionaires to take a slight paycut.

[Jexhius]

New Labour was one of the most right-wing authoritarian governments this country has ever had.

I'm just glad you didn't resort to hyperbole to express you opinion.

[Acheteedo]

Liberal Conservatives is better because the idea of liberals and conservatives working together should blow the minds of americans.

Yeah I'm hoping lib-con works out for that very reason. The bi-partisan battle in the US is disgusting, it would be good if the UK set a positive example of getting along.

[gcubed]

What has happened to electoral reform? The Tories are whipping Alternative Vote (AV) through parliament with a referendum. However, they (and the right wing press) are allowed to campaign against it. Still, AV isn’t proportional and won’t properly represent the views of the country. but it is slightly better with FPTP, will get rid of tactical voting and will prepare voters for AV+ or STV

as an outsider, are there any links or anyone willing to throw up an explanation on whats going on with this? How is it currently and what is AV+ and STV... all i heard on the news here was that the Tories are pushing through reform that could cost them seats in the next election

[iapetus]

The ministers have agreed to take a 5% paycut. How selfless of these multimillionaires to take a slight paycut.

All the ministers in this coalition are multimillionaires, right?