SenorDingDong
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(05-25-2010, 07:55 AM)
#201

Wait, these early xbox releases are from Australia? Is this at EB? Any idea if there was retail PC version available?

Edit: Ok I see the first two questions were addressed in the AusGAF thread but the third one still stands.
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#202

So buying the steam version, I'm a bit concerned about the RPG elements though, from what I've seen and read they appear to be pretty shallow, maybe even afterthought...
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Customisation isn't all that intense either. Michael is always going to be a White man with only about four hairstyles to choose from. A few accessories are also available though most of them look pretty stupid (who wears a beanie inside? >_>).
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#204

Originally Posted by Nemesis556:

Also picked it up!

To the other Aussie, which background did you pick? I chose recruit because I am a dirty achievement whore.

For those interested, framerate seems pretty terrible during the actual gameplay. >_> But still, I have hope!

Animations are also hilariously retarded. I do wonder how this got through QA.

Still, I have high hopes as I've said. >_>
I chose Field Agent, might start a new game as recruit once I get the hang of it.

I didn't notice bad frame rate, seems ok to me...

Originally Posted by Edgeward:
Thanks for the impressions! How much does accuracy feels like it's more rolling of the dice? How's the customizing of Michael's appearance?

And one for much later on, do you feel your choices are having a real impact and that the choices simply aren't 1a and 1b but rather really varied with different outcomes?
Shooting is pretty good, haven't shot enough to really notice the dice rolling though.

A bit disappointed by the customization options. I'm not sure if you unlock more, but there are only a few different skin tones, about 4 hair styles, and about 10 beards.

Originally Posted by SenorDingDong:
Wait, these early xbox releases are from Australia? Is this at EB? Any idea if there was retail PC version available?

Edit: Ok I see the first two questions were addressed in the AusGAF thread but the third one still stands.
Not sure if they had the PC version, they had to get my 360 copy from out the back as it had only just arrived.

Back to the game now :D
Nemesis_
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(05-25-2010, 08:13 AM)

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#205

The framerate is just so retardedly jumpy during the conversations. It's so distracting.

The weapons system is pretty much Deus Ex. In that it's almost impossible to actually fire at something without first investing the skill points into it. At least, that's what my impression of it is.

Enjoying it and cannot wait till it "opens up" per se. I hope there's side quests too >_>
procrastinator
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(05-25-2010, 10:26 AM)
#206

That PAX video was awesome. Pushed me over to actually preordering the game :lol The devs all seem like they're really hyped for what they've made.
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(05-25-2010, 10:41 AM)

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#207

From what I've seen and been reading here, this looks like a solid new IP. I am expecting ~80 on metacritic.
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#208

I think I'll pick this up. If only because it comes out on my birthday. Wait, is June 1st the ship date or a street date?
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#209

Wonder how this will run on the PC? I've lost a lot of faith in PC ports as of late, so I'm not holding my breath, but I would hope it would be smooth.
garath
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#210

I watched almost all of that PAX panel. I want to buy the game just to support work like that. I know it's going to fall short in the graphics department, but dammit, I want games where choices matter. And not the small "matters" like a slightly different ending, I like that there is a big impact that reaches through the entire game because of the choices you make.

The only way we'll continue to see things like that is if publishers feel like it's worth the investment.

So I'll probably buy it on PC unless the PS3 version comes out good. (I haven't even turned the 360 on in almost a year).
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#211

Originally Posted by dark10x:
Wonder how this will run on the PC? I've lost a lot of faith in PC ports as of late, so I'm not holding my breath, but I would hope it would be smooth.
well it's on UE3 so it better be damn fine on PCs (and this is Obsidian , so I guess PC is the lead version here)
Max
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#212

"holy trinity of J.B's; Jason Bourne (Professional), Jack Bauer (Aggressive) and James Bond (Suave)."

Whaaaaaaaaaat.
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#213

Originally Posted by jakershaker:
It's pretty much the worst insult ever to people who liked Dungeon Siege. And one of the worst games of all time too.
hehe yeah. it really is. but I still enjoyed space siege. it shouldn't have had the siege title at all, but it was ok fun. and short! I knew what the ending was before I got there but still got annoyed by how bad it was made, did both endings even. awful boss battles also.


oh yeah. can't wait for ap. have had it preordered since like august last year
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#214

Originally Posted by garath:
I watched almost all of that PAX panel. I want to buy the game just to support work like that. I know it's going to fall short in the graphics department, but dammit, I want games where choices matter. And not the small "matters" like a slightly different ending, I like that there is a big impact that reaches through the entire game because of the choices you make.

The only way we'll continue to see things like that is if publishers feel like it's worth the investment.

So I'll probably buy it on PC unless the PS3 version comes out good. (I haven't even turned the 360 on in almost a year).
Yeah, so far the choice system looks like it's really going to have a huge effect on gameplay. The idea that treating someone like shit creates a reputation for yourself, which then makes future characters you meet rather scared or hateful to you for your reputation really interests me. I just hope these choices actually DO resonate throughout the story.

My only real problem is that the game feels as though I should be playing it as a stealth game but the only way I can properly make progress is by going in guns blazing.

Additionally, the enemies have bionic sight and it's near impossible to judge where they're looking, or at least, how far they can see. It almost feels as if they will see you almost ALWAYS if they're doing as little as LOOKING in the same direction as you.
K.Jack
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#215

I've been playing Space Siege all morning.

I like it a lot. :lol
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#216

Ive been curious about this game, but I really want a demo. I want to know how its going to control/feel. It just seems "cheap" looking. Then again I haven't researched it much since it was shown like last year.
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#217

This guy has been streaming for the past 2 hours - pretty good quality stream too
http://www.justin.tv/tyndis
garath
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#218

Originally Posted by Nemesis556:
Yeah, so far the choice system looks like it's really going to have a huge effect on gameplay. The idea that treating someone like shit creates a reputation for yourself, which then makes future characters you meet rather scared or hateful to you for your reputation really interests me. I just hope these choices actually DO resonate throughout the story.

My only real problem is that the game feels as though I should be playing it as a stealth game but the only way I can properly make progress is by going in guns blazing.

Additionally, the enemies have bionic sight and it's near impossible to judge where they're looking, or at least, how far they can see. It almost feels as if they will see you almost ALWAYS if they're doing as little as LOOKING in the same direction as you.
Is it just because you haven't been levelled up enough in stealth skills? Or is the stealth system just really broken?

Originally Posted by Gyoru:
This guy has been streaming for the past 2 hours - pretty good quality stream too
http://www.justin.tv/tyndis
Sweet. As much as I'd like to avoid spoilers, I'm enjoying watching him. Haven't seen a mission yet though. Lots of looks at the skill tree.

edit: Oh my.. the tearing... On the bright side, the gameplay looks pretty good. Stealth seems to get better exponentially the higher your skill gets. Watching this dude just go rampaging on people though.
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DannyCool
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#219

Ok guys,

I have now played this game and had big expectations since it was announced. And my review is plain:

It sucked.

Everything failed, absolutly everything except the dialogue system which works fine. Bad cover system, clunky controls, in-effective shooting mechanic. To say it simple, this is my biggest gaming disapointment ever.
EviLore
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#220

Originally Posted by DannyCool:
Ok guys,

I have now played this game and had big expectations since it was announced. And my review is plain:

It sucked.

Everything failed, absolutly everything except the dialogue system which works fine. Bad cover system, clunky controls, in-effective shooting mechanic. To say it simple, this is my biggest gaming disapointment ever.
Sounds good.
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(05-25-2010, 08:38 PM)

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#221

Originally Posted by DannyCool:
Ok guys,

I have now played this game and had big expectations since it was announced. And my review is plain:

It sucked.

Everything failed, absolutly everything except the dialogue system which works fine. Bad cover system, clunky controls, in-effective shooting mechanic. To say it simple, this is my biggest gaming disapointment ever.
I must say I'm not surprised.
D2M15
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(05-25-2010, 08:40 PM)
#222

Originally Posted by EviLore:
Sounds good.
Yup, works for me.
Llyranor
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(05-25-2010, 08:41 PM)

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#223

That sounds terrible!! How do I cancel my preorder on Steam?!
INDIGO_CYCLOPS
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(05-25-2010, 08:42 PM)

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#224

Originally Posted by Llyranor:
That sounds terrible!! How do I cancel my preorder on Steam?!
Yikes, not quite sure you can?

I'm really disappointed, even though since the first dev diary released I knew it wasn't looking good.
marathonfool
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(05-25-2010, 08:42 PM)

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#225

Originally Posted by EviLore:
Sounds good.
I'm even more hyped myself.
syllogism
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(05-25-2010, 08:45 PM)

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#226

Originally Posted by DannyCool:
Ok guys,

I have now played this game and had big expectations since it was announced. And my review is plain:

It sucked.

Everything failed, absolutly everything except the dialogue system which works fine. Bad cover system, clunky controls, in-effective shooting mechanic. To say it simple, this is my biggest gaming disapointment ever.
So basically it's like Deus Ex, ordering now
garath
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(05-25-2010, 08:46 PM)

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#227

Originally Posted by DannyCool:
Ok guys,

I have now played this game and had big expectations since it was announced. And my review is plain:

It sucked.

Everything failed, absolutly everything except the dialogue system which works fine. Bad cover system, clunky controls, in-effective shooting mechanic. To say it simple, this is my biggest gaming disapointment ever.
Not disagreeing with your impressions but what kind of weapon skill were you working with? Watching the stream I saw the guy try to shoot a pistol and it was terrible. But he had 8 skill in assault rifles and was rocking.
D2M15
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(05-25-2010, 08:46 PM)
#228

Originally Posted by INDIGO_CYCLOPS:
Yikes, not quite sure you can?
I rather think he's joking, since pretty much no-one has ever been holding out for AP to deliver a terrific cover system, third-person control finesse and a chunky shooting mechanic.
Outtrigger888
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(05-25-2010, 08:49 PM)

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#229

Originally Posted by DannyCool:
Ok guys,

I have now played this game and had big expectations since it was announced. And my review is plain:

It sucked.

Everything failed, absolutly everything except the dialogue system which works fine. Bad cover system, clunky controls, in-effective shooting mechanic. To say it simple, this is my biggest gaming disapointment ever.
Have you completed the game? Maybe your just bad at the game and dont understand its mechanics? Have you used stealth? Or were you trying to play the game like gears? Sorry your impressions were plain, would like more detail.
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(05-25-2010, 08:50 PM)

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#230

Originally Posted by Gyoru:
This guy has been streaming for the past 2 hours - pretty good quality stream too
http://www.justin.tv/tyndis
What's with the shaking while in the really bad looking crouch walk? :lol :lol
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#231

Originally Posted by DannyCool:
Ok guys,

I have now played this game and had big expectations since it was announced. And my review is plain:

It sucked.

Everything failed, absolutly everything except the dialogue system which works fine. Bad cover system, clunky controls, in-effective shooting mechanic. To say it simple, this is my biggest gaming disapointment ever.
HYPE +100
INDIGO_CYCLOPS
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#232

Originally Posted by D2M15:
I rather think he's joking, since pretty much no-one has ever been holding out for AP to deliver a terrific cover system, third-person control finesse and a chunky shooting mechanic.
:lol I know:)
Interfectum
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#233

Originally Posted by DannyCool:
Ok guys,

I have now played this game and had big expectations since it was announced. And my review is plain:

It sucked.

Everything failed, absolutly everything except the dialogue system which works fine. Bad cover system, clunky controls, in-effective shooting mechanic. To say it simple, this is my biggest gaming disapointment ever.
Pre-ordered.
whatevermort
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(05-25-2010, 08:53 PM)

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#234

If you buy this game for the shooting and/or cover mechanic, isn't that "doing it wrong"?
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#235

I'm watching this stream a bit, is the invisibility their representation of being sneaky, or is it an actual invisibility suit?
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#236

Originally Posted by Llyranor:
That sounds terrible!! How do I cancel my preorder on Steam?!
Originally Posted by INDIGO_CYCLOPS:
Yikes, not quite sure you can? I'm really disappointed, even though since the first dev diary released I knew it wasn't looking good.
sheep are swayed so easily by a few fickle words
D2M15
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(05-25-2010, 08:54 PM)
#237

Originally Posted by INDIGO_CYCLOPS:
:lol I know:)
Then, my good sir, I have been played.
INDIGO_CYCLOPS
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#238

Originally Posted by TheVisualizer:
sheep are swayed so easily by a few fickle words
Well, in his defense the game has always looked questionable. I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt. I am really hoping the PC version isn't some half-assed port. However, I have some lingering hope about it. Hey, at least the main character can have a sweet full beard.
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#239

WTF guys, I was really looking forward to Planescape: Torment, but I just played it for a few hours and...OMG. You can't even die, it's like Prince of Persia 2008 all over again. The combat's terrible, you don't even get any armor for your character and just end up spamming healing items until you win. I could've dealt with all that, but the plot is all in mounds and mounds of text paired with low res 2d graphics. No immersion at all.

Biggest gaming disappointment of all time.
TheVisualizer
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#240

Originally Posted by INDIGO_CYCLOPS:
Well, in his defense the game has always looked questionable. I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt. I am really hoping the PC version isn't some half-assed port. However, I have some lingering hope about it. Hey, at least the main character can have a sweet full beard.
that is true, all I'm saying is don't put a whole lot of stock in a 1 sentence review of an RPG from a junior with a Dipset avatar. Maybe if our friend with the great taste in music could expand on his review I would be more inclined to take him seriously.
garath
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#241

Originally Posted by EviLore:
WTF guys, I was really looking forward to Planescape: Torment, but I just played it for a few hours and...OMG. You can't even die, it's like Prince of Persia 2008 all over again. The combat's terrible, you don't even get any armor for your character and just end up spamming healing items until you win. I could've dealt with all that, but the plot is all in mounds and mounds of text paired with low res 2d graphics. No immersion at all.

Biggest gaming disappointment of all time.
:lol
Llyranor
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(05-25-2010, 09:09 PM)

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#242

Now, to be fair, PS:T had terrible pre-release trailers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s2Qkx3lN5s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXJrgAmHBHg
K.Jack
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#243

Watching that stream, it hit me that I'm seeing screen tearing for the first time in years.

I forgot how horrible it is to behold.
Outtrigger888
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#244

Originally Posted by K.Jack:
Watching that stream, it hit me that I'm seeing screen tearing for the first time in years.

I forgot how horrible it is to behold.
Im guessing you dont play console games very often :lol
dionysus
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#245

Originally Posted by Llyranor:
Now, to be fair, PS:T had terrible pre-release trailers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s2Qkx3lN5s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXJrgAmHBHg
And its horrible combat lived up to all our worst nightmares.
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#246

I have a feeling we'll start seeing new hairstyles, accessories, etc. as paid DLC packs. >_>
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#247

Originally Posted by DannyCool:
Ok guys,

I have now played this game and had big expectations since it was announced. And my review is plain:

It sucked.

Everything failed, absolutly everything except the dialogue system which works fine. Bad cover system, clunky controls, in-effective shooting mechanic. To say it simple, this is my biggest gaming disapointment ever.
Day 1.
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#248

this game looks awesome. cant wait for it
Edgeward
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#249

Originally Posted by Outtrigger888:
Im guessing you dont play console games very often :lol
Seriously. :lol
Cep
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#250

Hmm, everything sucks except dialogue?

In an Obsidian game? Shocker!