[Xun]

Sounds like this is just wishful thinking on your part, then. If you strictly work 40 hours a week (no OT), have 0 commitments outside of work, don't have a considerable commute (i.e. fewer than 30 minutes total per day), and can easily get by on 6-7 hours of sleep, then yeah--you'll have a good chunk of free time. But once you subtract time for driving to work and then back home, your lunch break (which, if you take an hour, you're really at work for 9 hours), working out, running errands, cooking, cleaning, SLEEPING, etc., you quickly realize that your free time is more like 4-5 hours a day instead of 8. And for those few precious hours of free time you DO get, you're too fucking mentally or physically exhausted to do anything other than sit around and mindlessly consume entertainment.

It is partially wishful thinking, but in all honesty I won't really have much commitments since I still live at home (and plan to for a while).

I used to work at college (which was in London) till about 5-6pm, and I had time to do things when I got back. I wouldn't get home till about 7 sometimes, but I always made sure to either spend time doing my own things or going out for a few drinks with friends.

The reason I've yet to have a job a year after graduating is mainly because of the fear I have of a full-time job. Every single day I have the fear of not having time, and it is completely destroying my motivation.

But having said that, I've got to stay positive. If I'm not able to do what I want to do, I'll quit.

I have too many regrets in life, and I'm going to ensure I do what I want to do. Music is important to me so I will ensure I get my band going (and gig), and in a few years I'd like to go traveling (makes more sense if I'm doing contract/freelance work).

[Seguin]

2 days into my new job and I really miss my free time as unemployed.. Turns out I work 4PM-1AM, last shift, hard work. Work every other weekend. So it feels like I have no time for anything. Get home 1-2AM, go to bed, wake up 11-12AM and just a few hours before I need to head to work.. Anyone here who works/used to work terrible hours? I get to hang with my buddies twice a month and it sucks, I really feel terrible right now.

for a couple months I worked 12 hour shifts from 6PM-6AM, rotating 3 or 4 nights a week. I actually quite enjoyed it since it meant that management wasn't around and I could dick around when there wasn't much work to do.

[Kentpaul]

I work 2pm - 10pm, from 2 shifts a week to 4. (changes every week)

Plenty of cash and free time. It works out great.

[GringoLOCOo]

I'm supposed to be starting a 10 till 5 work Apprenticeship on Monday through a government agency here in the UK

It's 100 pounds every week which is 2.60 per hour, which to be honest is a downside to me but the up side with this is i well be earning a NVQ qualification with it which i well get at the end of 6 months and the company well then have to give me a permanent Job with full minimum wage.

Now i'm really torn about doing this , its got some upsides but the 2.60 is kinda killing it for me :/

what do you guys think ?

[PseudoKirby]

No more unemployment for me, going up to Alaska to work, 16 hour days, 7 days a week. I shove off next month.

[Etrian Oddity]

Got a job, now I'm making easy money. It's consumer electronics, so I'll have to take some initiative to learn about the products, but for what they're paying me and the level of labor involved this is great. Plus I work with one of my best friends (who was my referral), so that makes it even better.

[ToLateToLove]

"regular" hours make a huge difference as you said. My last job was 4pm-12:30am, I ended up sleeping longer cus you don't have to get up for work, which was at the expense of my free time. They days feel non-existent and it can grow to be quite depressing. Keep looking for new work!

Yeah this is exactly my situation. I will continue and see how I feel after the summer, will probably start to look for a new job then. One with better hours and hopefully less stress.

[Xeke]

Yeah I can imagine. I used to work retail and I had random days, ever changing hours and worked nearly every weekend. Now I'm working 8:30-5 in an office and any weekend work is overtime time and a half pay so it does 't feel too bad. Having normal hours has been great for my life.

[Skel1ingt0n]

In high school I worked ~40 hours a week in fast food in addition to going to school from ~7:30-2:20 M-F. I basically was a zombie from 9th-12th grade.

In college, I worked three jobs while taking ~15 credits a semester. Somehow, though, I actually felt like I had a fair amount of free time. Not nearly as much as most of my peers; but enough that I could relax a couple nights each week and play through a short video game each week.

I recently started my first full-time, salaried, career-job. I feel like I have absolutely ZERO free time. So to whoever was mentioning this; I fully understand. I get up at 6am and go for a quick jog, shower, and get ready. I have to be on the freeway by 7am. I have a 40 mile drive, and if I hit traffic, it can easily take an hour to get to work. I get there at 8, and other than an hour lunch, I work until 5-5:30pm each day. Which means I don't get home until about 6:30, assuming I have no errands or things to take care of. By the time I'm settled down and eating dinner, it's after 7pm. Which gives me about three hours of freedom - but I'm literally too exhausted to even play a video game. I end up just lurking the internet until bed :-/

[Xeke]

In high school I worked ~40 hours a week in fast food in addition to going to school from ~7:30-2:20 M-F. I basically was a zombie from 9th-12th grade. In college, I worked three jobs while taking ~15 credits a semester. Somehow, though, I actually felt like I had a fair amount of free time. Not nearly as much as most of my peers; but enough that I could relax a couple nights each week and play through a short video game each week. I recently started my first full-time, salaried, career-job. I feel like I have absolutely ZERO free time. So to whoever was mentioning this; I fully understand. I get up at 6am and go for a quick jog, shower, and get ready. I have to be on the freeway by 7am. I have a 40 mile drive, and if I hit traffic, it can easily take an hour to get to work. I get there at 8, and other than an hour lunch, I work until 5-5:30pm each day. Which means I don't get home until about 6:30, assuming I have no errands or things to take care of. By the time I'm settled down and eating dinner, it's after 7pm. Which gives me about three hours of freedom - but I'm literally too exhausted to even play a video game. I end up just lurking the internet until bed :-/

I feel that too. My normal schedule gives me plenty of free time but over the summers overtime is a given so I've been working nonstop 50 hour+ weeks. The OT pay is nice but I'd love to leave at 5 one day instead of 7...

[Akuun]

I recently started my first full-time, salaried, career-job. I feel like I have absolutely ZERO free time. So to whoever was mentioning this; I fully understand. I get up at 6am and go for a quick jog, shower, and get ready. I have to be on the freeway by 7am. I have a 40 mile drive, and if I hit traffic, it can easily take an hour to get to work. I get there at 8, and other than an hour lunch, I work until 5-5:30pm each day. Which means I don't get home until about 6:30, assuming I have no errands or things to take care of. By the time I'm settled down and eating dinner, it's after 7pm. Which gives me about three hours of freedom - but I'm literally too exhausted to even play a video game. I end up just lurking the internet until bed :-/

Yup, this is pretty much how my first job was, too. I think everyone has to find this out for themselves before they believe just how unbelievably tiring work is.

[Noirulus]

Finished second year of my Bachelor's of Science and I can't find a job for the summer. Must have applied to every chain store that belong in every category and a ton of office/desk jobs. Live in Toronto.

My friends haven't found a job either. I guess university students are having a tough time in Toronto? :/

[Insane Metal]

Yeah, now I'm unemployed too. I have just one month left.

[nib95]

I'm technically unemployed now too. I moved back in with my parents hoping to get a mortgage on a flat in London, which I planned to move to in to a few months later to resume freelance work (web design, graphics and photography). Well, the banks aren't lending shit so I've been stuck here for longer than I'd have wanted and doing very little freelance work.

Been getting to grips with my dads businesses a lot more in the mean time though. Never had as much influence or involvement before. For the last several years, mainly done my own thing. I can tell he doesn't really want me to go back to London. Sort of like that, this is where you transition and take over type moment. But I don't think I actually want that just yet.

I have however been keeping myself busy with a few other projects. Most notably, setting up a new online business, dealing with jewellery of all things. Lets see how it all goes. If it goes pear shaped, I've only lost out on a bit of capital and more so just time (several months), but if it goes well, well then it could net me a good income.

[lush]

No more unemployment for me, going up to Alaska to work, 16 hour days, 7 days a week. I shove off next month.

What's the details on this? Sounds badass.

[PseudoKirby]

What's the details on this? Sounds badass.

Its for an alaska cannery, lodging and food provided, in August I will come back with a cool $8000. They pay for the flight out to Alaska too

but its the 16 hour days and hard work that will be tough.

[lush]

Its for an alaska cannery, lodging and food provided, in August I will come back with a cool $8000. They pay for the flight out to Alaska too but its the 16 hour days and hard work that will be tough.

Where? What kind of work? $8000 + food/lodging in Alaska for three months sounds pretty cool.

[nib95]

Where? What kind of work? $8000 + food/lodging in Alaska for three months sounds pretty cool.

By my rough calculation, 3 months at 7 days a week, 16 hours a day, is 1456 hours. At $8000, works out at about about $5.50 an hour. Add in $100 a week for food and $500 a month for accommodation he gets comped, and it's roughly $7.40 an hour. Unless I've got my maths all wrong.

For those kind of crazy hours, I don't think it's pretty cool personally. But that's just me lol.

[loosus]

For anyone who has no free time because of work and school obligations: keep it up and wait it out till you're done. You ARE doing the right thing at this moment in your life. Try to remember that it won't be like that forever, and your're doing yourself a huge favor by making these time sacrifices now.

My advice, though, is to surround yourself with people in similar situations. For me, at least, it was damn nightmare to see other people going out and taking trips and shit when I was stuck at home.

[Sword Familiar]

By my rough calculation, 3 months at 7 days a week, 16 hours a day, is 1456 hours. At $8000, works out at about about $5.50 an hour. Add in $100 a week for food and $500 a month for accommodation he gets comped, and it's roughly $7.40 an hour. Unless I've got my maths all wrong. For those kind of crazy hours, I don't think it's pretty cool personally. But that's just me lol.

Sounds pretty damn close to slavery, if you ask me. "Hey! Come work for us for free! We'll feed you and you can live with 64 other guys in a tight bunker! It'll be great!"

[betweenthewheels]

Yup, this is pretty much how my first job was, too. I think everyone has to find this out for themselves before they believe just how unbelievably tiring work is.

It's especially bad if you're indecisive and start stressing about how to optimize your free time, which shouldn't be a stressor.

Wonder if part-time work is sustainable long term if you live within your means...

[ToLateToLove]

It's especially bad if you're indecisive and start stressing about how to optimize your free time, which shouldn't be a stressor. Wonder if part-time work is sustainable long term if you live within your means...

My brother worked part-time for years and made good money. Like 25-30h/week. The key was to work every other weekend plus some hours after 6PM to compensate not working full-time. He had a lot of free time and decent money working retail. Jealous :(

[Mikasangelos]

I need some help.........With my back ground, what jobs should i be applying for?


http://www.linkedin.com/pub/miguelan...res/44/918/140


Obviously im searching CAD jobs but what else? Logistics?

[Magnus]

Confirmed, new job starting in June. Downtown Toronto, TV gig, my own computer/extension/desk, full time hours and relatively within the 9-5 normal work day. What universe is this?

I am happy. Can always dream for more pay, but eh, this one sort of fell out of the sky after a tough year of searching. Can't possibly complain. Gonna be fun!

[PseudoKirby]

By my rough calculation, 3 months at 7 days a week, 16 hours a day, is 1456 hours. At $8000, works out at about about $5.50 an hour. Add in $100 a week for food and $500 a month for accommodation he gets comped, and it's roughly $7.40 an hour. Unless I've got my maths all wrong. For those kind of crazy hours, I don't think it's pretty cool personally. But that's just me lol.

Depending on your contract. its 7.75 per hours for straight time, then about $12 an hour for overtime

http://tridentseafoods.com/join_our_team/
Disclosure: they have finished all the "Interviews" for this season, there might be a way in though IDK, seasons starting soon.
And thats in quotes because they ask you three questions and then start the background check, it wasn't much.
Its $5 a day for the food and lodgings if you finish out your contract.

I chose 6 - 8 weeks, its $1060 per week.

its just hard work for the summer so I can get back into going to college

not to mention I get unemployment afterward, something like $250 a week.

With Grants I can make this work..

[canadian crowe]

Confirmed, new job starting in June. Downtown Toronto, TV gig, my own computer/extension/desk, full time hours and relatively within the 9-5 normal work day. What universe is this? I am happy. Can always dream for more pay, but eh, this one sort of fell out of the sky after a tough year of searching. Can't possibly complain. Gonna be fun!

Congrats. I was out of work for 2 years, and I'm also in the TV business in Toronto.

I just got a job as a captioner this week. Seems like there is something in the air.

[LosDaddie]

I need some help.........With my back ground, what jobs should i be applying for? http://www.linkedin.com/pub/miguelan...res/44/918/140 Obviously im searching CAD jobs but what else? Logistics?

Project Engineer, CAD draftsman, Estimating, Logistics Engineer.

I'd try looking at some local engineering/architectural firms' websites and see what kind of positions they're hiring for.

[GrizzNKev]

I was hired today too. Tech support. Shouldn't be too difficult but the hours might get intense. The staff working there was really cool.

[PseudoKirby]

I was hired today too. Tech support. Shouldn't be too difficult but the hours might get intense. The staff working there was really cool.

Lucky you, this field is pretty damn competitve, everyone and their dog are help desk/computer technician/desktop support nowadays...

what area you in? and did you have a degree?

[Seguin]

Depending on your contract. its 7.75 per hours for straight time, then about $12 an hour for overtime http://tridentseafoods.com/join_our_team/ Disclosure: they have finished all the "Interviews" for this season, there might be a way in though IDK, seasons starting soon. And thats in quotes because they ask you three questions and then start the background check, it wasn't much. Its $5 a day for the food and lodgings if you finish out your contract. I chose 6 - 8 weeks, its $1060 per week. its just hard work for the summer so I can get back into going to college not to mention I get unemployment afterward, something like $250 a week. With Grants I can make this work..

Don't forget you'll have to pay federal income tax come April for unemployment benefits you receive this year.

[PseudoKirby]

Don't forget you'll have to pay federal income tax come April for unemployment benefits you receive this year.

I wont be able to pull the Unemployment until next year it seems according to the base period.

[GrizzNKev]

Lucky you, this field is pretty damn competitve, everyone and their dog are help desk/computer technician/desktop support nowadays... what area you in? and did you have a degree?

Degree? I'm 19. I watched them turn away middle-aged men with children and I was basically hired before the interview began. Dem certs, it's probably hard to turn away someone who got their MCSE from scratch in a two week span during middle school. I believe it's going to end up being a sales mix too.

[PseudoKirby]

Degree? I'm 19. I watched them turn away middle-aged men with children and I was basically hired before the interview began. Dem certs, it's probably hard to turn away someone who got their MCSE from scratch in a two week span during middle school. I believe it's going to end up being a sales mix too.

what certifications do you have then? I just have A+ the others are quite expensive..

[ChanDangle]

After 8 months of looking for a job I finally landed one! Working at Best Buy in the home theater dept not the greatest but beggars can't be choosers. Keep your head up people.

[EYEL1NER]

what certifications do you have then? I just have A+ the others are quite expensive..

I wish I had A+. I applied for a job at a Tech Control Facility on Diego-Garcia That requires A+. I figured there wasn't any harm applying, even though without the cert I more than likely won't even have my resume looked at. My resume was in their system already, so it wasn't a big waste of time.

CCNA is the god-cert though. I could have had a job in January immediatly upon getting out of the military if I had one.

[Magnus]

Congrats. I was out of work for 2 years, and I'm also in the TV business in Toronto. I just got a job as a captioner this week. Seems like there is something in the air.

Thanks man! We should chat!

[GrizzNKev]

I wish I had A+. I applied for a job at a Tech Control Facility on Diego-Garcia That requires A+. I figured there wasn't any harm applying, even though without the cert I more than likely won't even have my resume looked at. My resume was in their system already, so it wasn't a big waste of time. CCNA is the god-cert though. I could have had a job in January immediatly upon getting out of the military if I had one.

The guy who went in before me had a CCNA and got turned down.

what certifications do you have then? I just have A+ the others are quite expensive..

I have Security+, MCP, MCSA, MCSE, MCSE Security. I got them in 2007 on the Server 2003 lineup. My dad teaches a two week class to get all of them it so it was free for me outside of the 8 tests. It was brutal to do it all so fast and it was extremely awkward being a little kid in a class full of college grads and working people but it was worth it.

[Mikasangelos]

Project Engineer, CAD draftsman, Estimating, Logistics Engineer. I'd try looking at some local engineering/architectural firms' websites and see what kind of positions they're hiring for.

Thanks Carlos!

[Aesius]

After 8 months of looking for a job I finally landed one! Working at Best Buy in the home theater dept not the greatest but beggars can't be choosers. Keep your head up people.

How old are you?

[Jimothy]

Confirmed, new job starting in June. Downtown Toronto, TV gig, my own computer/extension/desk, full time hours and relatively within the 9-5 normal work day. What universe is this? I am happy. Can always dream for more pay, but eh, this one sort of fell out of the sky after a tough year of searching. Can't possibly complain. Gonna be fun!

Are you an editor/post production person? That's pretty much my dream gig.

[bengraven]

All right, job interview tomorrow and at this point I'll take anything. I just got my last unemployment check. This is some eleventh hour shit.

Any kind of luck wishing or praying if that's your thing or sacrificing poultry, whatever, and I'll take it.

I have to be honest, I'm terrified to go there, but mostly because I'm terrified I'll be rejected.

[Songbird]

Any kind of luck wishing or praying if that's your thing or sacrificing poultry, whatever, and I'll take it.

And I'm happy to give it, so good luck dude! Everyone in here deserves a break.

[jaxword]

All right, job interview tomorrow and at this point I'll take anything. I just got my last unemployment check. This is some eleventh hour shit. Any kind of luck wishing or praying if that's your thing or sacrificing poultry, whatever, and I'll take it. I have to be honest, I'm terrified to go there, but mostly because I'm terrified I'll be rejected.

I just killed a chicken with my bare hands and teeth for you.

[bengraven]

All right, your rituals worked, I got the job. Walked in ten minutes early, sat there for five minutes, and walked out with the job.

Only issues now is:

- M-S, 6 hour work weeks
- 11am-9pm every day
- wife works 8-5 and we have one car, so we need to spend the weekend thinking how this will work
- sales...I get 200/week just for showing up, but the rest is commission.
- realistically, if I have a bad week, I'll be working 60 hours and only getting 200 bucks.
- no benefits at all
- walking door to door in the glaring Florida sun and I'm a pale, 325 pound Minnesotan.



Oh well, my workaholic absentee father in law will respect me now for sacrificing everything, including family time, for a sales job. I get to be just like the man who my wife hates! YES! Thanks recession!

[Aesius]

All right, your rituals worked, I got the job. Walked in ten minutes early, sat there for five minutes, and walked out with the job. Only issues now is: - M-S, 6 hour work weeks - 11am-9pm every day - wife works 8-5 and we have one car, so we need to spend the weekend thinking how this will work - sales...I get 200/week just for showing up, but the rest is commission. - realistically, if I have a bad week, I'll be working 60 hours and only getting 200 bucks. - no benefits at all - walking door to door in the glaring Florida sun and I'm a pale, 325 pound Minnesotan. Oh well, my workaholic absentee father in law will respect me now for sacrificing everything, including family time, for a sales job. I get to be just like the man who my wife hates! YES! Thanks recession!

I hate to break it to you, but this job sounds like a scam. And they probably hire anyone willing to work there. And you probably won't even see that $200 base pay.

[bengraven]

I hate to break it to you, but this job sounds like a scam. And they probably hire anyone willing to work there. And you probably won't even see that $200 base pay.

Probably, but I was told "at least your working".

Because being a full time father is apparently the worst job in the world.

[bengraven]

Just googled them ("securewatch adt dealers") and sure enough it's a pretty shady company. Some guy was saying that many of his paychecks never arrived ("administration error") and I informed my wife of this and she sides with me now and doesn't want me to do it.

This had to happen the day that I found out our security blanket, emergency money (aka our tax return) was now less than $200.

I'm pretty emotionally exhausted right now and I'm going to have a nap.



This weekend I'll be applying at every single company in this area: Kangaroos, Family Dollars, fast food places, Lowes, CVS, Walgreens...

I spend my first 25 years working in shitty jobs like Burger King, Walmart, and meat packing plants and etc (see: the "worst job you ever had" thread) and I thought I had finally made something of myself - I worked 7 years in a white collar customer service management career and I thought I'd never have to fill out an application again.

And now I'm back to "white trash work" as my dad used to call it.

[Seguin]

Just googled them ("securewatch adt dealers") and sure enough it's a pretty shady company. Some guy was saying that many of his paychecks never arrived ("administration error") and I informed my wife of this and she sides with me now and doesn't want me to do it. This had to happen the day that I found out our security blanket, emergency money (aka our tax return) was now less than $200. I'm pretty emotionally exhausted right now and I'm going to have a nap. This weekend I'll be applying at every single company in this area: Kangaroos, Family Dollars, fast food places, Lowes, CVS, Walgreens... I spend my first 25 years working in shitty jobs like Burger King, Walmart, and meat packing plants and etc (see: the "worst job you ever had" thread) and I thought I had finally made something of myself - I worked 7 years in a white collar customer service management career and I thought I'd never have to fill out an application again. And now I'm back to "white trash work" as my dad used to call it.

Have you signed up for temp agencies yet?

[Ivan A Nguyen]

Just googled them ("securewatch adt dealers") and sure enough it's a pretty shady company. Some guy was saying that many of his paychecks never arrived ("administration error") and I informed my wife of this and she sides with me now and doesn't want me to do it. This had to happen the day that I found out our security blanket, emergency money (aka our tax return) was now less than $200. I'm pretty emotionally exhausted right now and I'm going to have a nap. This weekend I'll be applying at every single company in this area: Kangaroos, Family Dollars, fast food places, Lowes, CVS, Walgreens... I spend my first 25 years working in shitty jobs like Burger King, Walmart, and meat packing plants and etc (see: the "worst job you ever had" thread) and I thought I had finally made something of myself - I worked 7 years in a white collar customer service management career and I thought I'd never have to fill out an application again. And now I'm back to "white trash work" as my dad used to call it.

That's really sad to hear. The only bright side is that your Unemployment Insurance ran out already. Some companies try to get people in to interview for crappy jobs, then threaten to tell the government if you turn down the job offer.

[PseudoKirby]

Just googled them ("securewatch adt dealers") and sure enough it's a pretty shady company. Some guy was saying that many of his paychecks never arrived ("administration error") and I informed my wife of this and she sides with me now and doesn't want me to do it. This had to happen the day that I found out our security blanket, emergency money (aka our tax return) was now less than $200. I'm pretty emotionally exhausted right now and I'm going to have a nap. This weekend I'll be applying at every single company in this area: Kangaroos, Family Dollars, fast food places, Lowes, CVS, Walgreens... I spend my first 25 years working in shitty jobs like Burger King, Walmart, and meat packing plants and etc (see: the "worst job you ever had" thread) and I thought I had finally made something of myself - I worked 7 years in a white collar customer service management career and I thought I'd never have to fill out an application again. And now I'm back to "white trash work" as my dad used to call it.

well if your really hard on money, and dont mind hard work, theres this cannery job I mentioned earlier, I am doing it to support a family and to continue my schooling

Trident may have stopped hiring for this upcoming season, but they might have extra considerations or drop outs, and there are plenty of other cannery places out there if not.