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Dreamgazer · (05-03-2012, 07:52 PM)

Originally Posted by TheSeks:

With the exception of one, which is the construction areas and oil pipe stuff, BC2 was highly destructible. And it really showed why DICE needed to reign in the destruction on Rush. Helicopters raining death down on buildings and collapsing them and then basically splash damaging buildings to get people hiding in the rubble was stupid as hell.

One? what about last set nelson bay B? Arica 4th set trailer, 2nd set garagae, atcama metal boats and last set A/B? and all those Tin/aluminum walls?

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Because the engine isn't the Geomod engine where you can put enough C4 in an area and punch through a solid mountain, dude.

Except it makes no sense that I can do it to one piece of wall but not the other. For example, Dpeak rush set 1 and 2 are both bases surrounded by white walls. You can blow through all the wall of set 2, but not a single wall in set 1. They're the same freaking type of wall. I mean you can possibly argue it's a balance thing.....excpet set 1 is obviously much easier to camp.

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Originally Posted by TheSeks:

And even then if you get close you have a chokepoint of the door in the "back alley" area because while you can punch the first wall off, you can't punch the other wall off and so the defense has two areas they can lock down and throw rockets toward to shut the attackers out. There-in the issue more than the lack of destruction and why DICE needs to just stop putting crates in buildings that can collapse AND buildings that can't have their outer areas destroyed and leave the building standing like BC1.

I mena, Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.
This type of thing also discourages people from using the destructive environment.
Like the 3 piece of walls in front of norshar last set B (or is it A?). Most people have no idea that wall can be blown for a much easier short cut/avoidance of choke point.

It also doesn't make sense as to why some environment require multiple c4 attempts before they have visual indications of being destructable. It's like a freaking guessing game when I'm trying to make a shortcut (Only 1 of the 3 piece of walls on norshar last set is destructable, and it takes 2 c4 attempts to blow it open.)

TheSeks · (05-03-2012, 08:04 PM)

Originally Posted by Dreamgazer:

One? what about last set nelson bay B? Arica 4th set trailer, 2nd set garagae, atcama metal boats and last set A/B? and all those Tin/aluminum walls?

There's certain exceptions on maps, yeah. But it isn't global, hence the broken nature of Rush for the strong majority of the matches. Even if you wanted to point out Nelson Bay B, I'd point out that the AT4 could easily hit that rocket once you were good at guiding the rocket. So uh... still able to cheese the crate, dude.

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Except it makes no sense that I can do it to one piece of wall but not the other. For example, Dpeak rush set 1 and 2 are both bases surrounded by white walls. You can blow through all the wall of set 2, but not a single wall in set 1. They're the same freaking type of wall. I mean you can possibly argue it's a balance thing.....excpet set 1 is obviously much easier to camp.

Sure, but DICE didn't expect people to camp there I wager. Who the hell knows, it's DICE's mysterious decisions with balancing that this thing is an issue.

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It also doesn't make sense as to why some environment require multiple c4 attempts before they have visual indications of being destructable. It's like a freaking guessing game when I'm trying to make a shortcut (Only 1 of the 3 piece of walls on norshar last set is destructable, and it takes 2 c4 attempts to blow it open.)

And I don't have an issue with that. I do, however have an issue where the defense has no ability to defend because the destruction goes wholesale and they have no ability to get close to the crate. Vice-versa with the attackers. That's my point: DICE knee-jerked and nerfed the damage. Which while good intentions is also bad on the same hand because the defense/attackers BOTH can't get a good position/grip on the crates depending on what the other team does first.

But on the same coin: BC2's C4/destruction abuse gave neither side a chance depending on which side was the one abusing destruction.

So... really... DICE can't win for lose on that mode. I'd suggest a BC1 building taking apart but no collapse for the crates. Every other building can collapse within reason and DICE has certain (NO LANES) routes that the defense and attackers both can use because those routes can't be destroyed.

But then again this is the same company that allows the attackers to get on the hanger roof via helicopter and sit there and snipe on Norshal Rush with the defense having to counter snipe up there with no ability to get up there to clear them out, so who the hell knows what is going through their mind at times.

Dreamgazer · (05-03-2012, 08:11 PM)

Originally Posted by TheSeks:

There's certain exceptions on maps, yeah. But it isn't global, hence the broken nature of Rush for the strong majority of the matches. Even if you wanted to point out Nelson Bay B, I'd point out that the AT4 could easily hit that rocket once you were good at guiding the rocket. So uh... still able to cheese the crate, dude.

The point of the indestructable wall statment that you quote is that I have no problem with indestructable walls and that I am not advocating total destruction of everything.

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Sure, but DICE didn't expect people to camp there I wager. Who the hell knows, it's DICE's mysterious decisions with balancing that this thing is an issue.

And I don't have an issue with that. I do, however have an issue where the defense has no ability to defend because the destruction goes wholesale and they have no ability to get close to the crate. Vice-versa with the attackers. That's my point: DICE knee-jerked and nerfed the damage. Which while good intentions is also bad on the same hand because the defense/attackers BOTH can't get a good position/grip on the crates depending on what the other team does first.

But on the same coin: BC2's C4/destruction abuse gave neither side a chance depending on which side was the one abusing destruction.

So... really... DICE can't win for lose on that mode. I'd suggest a BC1 building taking apart but no collapse for the crates. Every other building can collapse within reason and DICE has certain (NO LANES) routes that the defense and attackers both can use because those routes can't be destroyed.

But then again this is the same company that allows the attackers to get on the hanger roof via helicopter and sit there and snipe on Norshal Rush with the defense having to counter snipe up there with no ability to get up there to clear them out, so who the hell knows what is going through their mind at times.

And here we reach the same conclusion, once again.

The Faceless Master · (05-03-2012, 08:57 PM)

i set orders all the time, i just have to notice that i'm the squad leader first.

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Same with taking down birds. Someone has to do it when our team barely looks upwards.

this right here is my biggest pet peeve

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One? what about last set nelson bay B? Arica 4th set trailer, 2nd set garagae, atcama metal boats and last set A/B? and all those Tin/aluminum walls?

all of those can be RPG'd and/or C4'd from various angles, which means... defense can't just all camp.

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I'd suggest a BC1 building taking apart but no collapse for the crates. Every other building can collapse within reason and DICE has certain (NO LANES) routes that the defense and attackers both can use because those routes can't be destroyed.

i swear i said this months ago...

MMaRsu · (05-03-2012, 09:07 PM)

So since you guys seem to think BC2 is better anyway, I suggest we all boot that up now and play some games together ;)

Dreamgazer · (05-03-2012, 09:20 PM)

Originally Posted by MMaRsu:

So since you guys seem to think BC2 is better anyway, I suggest we all boot that up now and play some games together ;)

Majority of people(especially vehicle lovers) prefer BF3 more so.

Not to mention, we play on PS3.
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The Faceless Master · (05-12-2012, 08:43 PM)

they need to stop letting me steal the Hind on Atacama.

Mr Nightman · (05-12-2012, 09:15 PM)

Originally Posted by The Faceless Master:

they need to stop letting me steal the Hind on Atacama.

haha me and my buddy would always do that, soo funny hauling ass in their base with a vehicle and snagging a roadkill in the process

TheSeks · (05-12-2012, 09:18 PM)

Originally Posted by The Faceless Master:

they need to stop letting me steal the Hind on Atacama.

I love when you do that for me. GUN-RUNNER.

TeegsD · 12:03 AM

Just got the PC version for free from Origin. Finally installed it and updated it but whenever I try to run it, a blank white square pops up(as well as the BC2 icon on the taskbar) but then they both disappear and nothing happens. i thought it maybe was Windows 8 but even running in compatibility mode does nothing. Also BC2 seems to be working with W8 anyways.

Edit- I had forgotten to restart after installing video drivers which solved the issue. The only thing that doesn't make sense to me is that I have to run this game on low settings or else the map doesn't load yet I could run BF3 on medium. Also can't play due to punkbuster always kicking me

OldJadedGamer · (08-08-2012, 02:14 AM)

I know I'm LTTP with this one but got bored and finished up every achievement in the game. All single player and multiplayer ones, Onslaught mode, SPECACT, and Vietnam. 72/72

endlessflood · (10-10-2012, 08:42 AM)

Sorry to dust this thread off, but I have a question that I was hoping some of the GAF BFBC2 community could help with. For BFBC2 there was a behind the scenes video made showing the voice actors at work in the recording booth, but for the life of me I can't track it down again. Does anyone remember the video? All I can find is one for BFBC and that's not it.

fritolay · (10-21-2012, 04:24 AM)