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(09-20-2010, 04:49 PM)

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#1101

Originally Posted by Hcoregamer00:
I just got to November, no spoilers but how far am I until the end of the game?
December.
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(09-20-2010, 04:52 PM)

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#1102

Originally Posted by Pureauthor:
December.
Are you serious?

The game ended too fast :lol
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(09-20-2010, 04:54 PM)

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#1103

Don't worry, new game+ has plenty of new missions and weapon upgrades that will break your bank.
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(09-20-2010, 05:26 PM)

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#1104

Originally Posted by Lain:
English voice. I have no idea how he sounds in Japanese, but that laugh makes him sound so much dumber, which is no small feat.
The JP voice makes him sound dumb too. Every other part of the game he sounds like Zack Faire (JP version)...



Just finished March. Man, those V2s kicked my ass. Took me a while to realize fencers deal with them... do snipers work against them too?
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(09-20-2010, 05:27 PM)

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#1105

Originally Posted by radiantdreamer:
Just finished March. Man, those V2s kicked my ass. Took me a while to realize fencers deal with them... do snipers work against them too?
Snipers only really work if you take out the Supply Vehicles first.
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(09-20-2010, 06:23 PM)

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Originally Posted by Pureauthor:
Snipers only really work if you take out the Supply Vehicles first.
Lancers do a good job too.

Coleen or Rene will take any of those bastards down :)
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(09-20-2010, 07:31 PM)

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#1107

Originally Posted by commish:
You're retarded.

:/
Hcoregamer00
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(09-20-2010, 07:32 PM)

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#1108

Originally Posted by Pureauthor:
Don't worry, new game+ has plenty of new missions and weapon upgrades that will break your bank.
Ugh, I am already breaking the bank trying to catch up on Tank upgrades >_<
Giolon
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#1109

Only made it up to October this weekend. I've been wasting a lot of time trying to grind credits for people so I can have access to cool classes like Maulers, AT Snipers, and Commandos. I'm not entirely there yet >.< I did luck out and get the credits to make Aliasse a Scout Veteran in only 2 missions! I know that now karma will ensure that I have to grind dozens of hours just to get any further credits I need. Also, Cosette as a Medic + Max Aid Range potential = overpowered as all hell. Someone dead? 1CP res + full heal from half a map or more away is ridiculous. Get up, carry on as usual!

I also went to SEGA's booth at the San Francisco J-Pop Summit this weekend and met RubyEclipse. I re-expressed in person my disappointment in VC3 being on PSP, and he said he only found out about it a week before the announcement. He also assured me that he wasn't lying when he says that buying VC2 on PSP does help the chances of it reappearing on consoles, but also said he couldn't tell me how it helps. He did tell me that VC2's early sales have been good, and its success will determine whether or not VC3 makes over here at all. So...I guess the new mantra is, if you want VC3 to be localized, buy VC2! :lol
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(09-20-2010, 09:19 PM)

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Originally Posted by Giolon:
Only made it up to October this weekend. I've been wasting a lot of time trying to grind credits for people so I can have access to cool classes like Maulers, AT Snipers, and Commandos. I'm not entirely there yet >.< I did luck out and get the credits to make Aliasse a Scout Veteran in only 2 missions! I know that now karma will ensure that I have to grind dozens of hours just to get any further credits I need. Also, Cosette as a Medic + Max Aid Range potential = overpowered as all hell. Someone dead? 1CP res + full heal from half a map or more away is ridiculous. Get up, carry on as usual!
Nice, here I thought that Medics were useless.

I haven't used them in the game since my June mission.

Originally Posted by Giolon:
I also went to SEGA's booth at the San Francisco J-Pop Summit this weekend and met RubyEclipse. I re-expressed in person my disappointment in VC3 being on PSP, and he said he only found out about it a week before the announcement. He also assured me that he wasn't lying when he says that buying VC2 on PSP does help the chances of it reappearing on consoles, but also said he couldn't tell me how it helps. He did tell me that VC2's early sales have been good, and its success will determine whether or not VC3 makes over here at all. So...I guess the new mantra is, if you want VC3 to be localized, buy VC2! :lol
Get over it dude, Sega of America is nothing but a marketing and publishing arm of Sega of Japan. There is NOTHING Sega of America can do about the direction of a franchise.
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(09-20-2010, 09:32 PM)

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Poor RubyEclipse. :lol
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(09-20-2010, 09:32 PM)

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If SEGA won't localize it, fans will. When will more companies realize most consumers who buy Japanese developed games do not care about the dubs and would be very happy with just subtitles if it means the difference between releasing it here or never getting it?

Really, if the amount of money saved by axing English voice work + less localization time (ie, less pay to contracted employees for the project) would mean we get VC 3 (and other games in general), why wouldn't they do this? Make it a PSN only download, too, if you don't want to spend money on packaging.

Edit: I'm gonna say that Sega of America has little-to-no say in this decision, so all *potential future* blame should be placed on motherland Sega if VC 3's release in NA doesn't come to pass.
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(09-20-2010, 09:37 PM)

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I'm not worried about VC3 not being localized at all honestly. I mean sure, with declining PSP software sales, the 3DS on the horizon, and Japanese games selling less overseas, it's a possibility that Sega will abandon the franchise outside of Japan, but I really don't think the possibility is that high.

They've shown that they're willing to continue supporting stuff like Yakuza even with minimal sales, and there will still be notable (and some major) Japanese games released on the PSP outside of Japan in 2011, so honestly it's very premature to go "lol we're all doomed".
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(09-20-2010, 09:38 PM)

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#1114

Originally Posted by TSA:
If SEGA won't localize it, fans will. When will more companies realize most consumers who buy Japanese developed games do not care about the dubs and would be very happy with just subtitles if it means the difference between releasing it here or never getting it?

Really, if the amount of money saved by axing English voice work + less localization time (ie, less pay to contracted employees for the project) would mean we get VC 3 (and other games in general), why wouldn't they do this? Make it a PSN only download, too, if you don't want to spend money on packaging.

Edit: I'm gonna say that Sega of America has little-to-no say in this decision, so all *potential future* blame should be placed on motherland Sega if VC 3's release in NA doesn't come to pass.
Where is my fan translation of Radiant Mythology 2? Where are all the fan hacks into Sakura Taisen 1-4 or Sakura Taisen 1&2 for the PSP? There is just as much of a chance of something languishing as getting picked up by the gaming community.

Originally Posted by duckroll:
I'm not worried about VC3 not being localized at all honestly. I mean sure, with declining PSP software sales, the 3DS on the horizon, and Japanese games selling less overseas, it's a possibility that Sega will abandon the franchise outside of Japan, but I really don't think the possibility is that high.

They've shown that they're willing to continue supporting stuff like Yakuza even with minimal sales, and there will still be notable (and some major) Japanese games released on the PSP outside of Japan in 2011, so honestly it's very premature to go "lol we're all doomed".
Not to mention the ubiquity of online retailers means that "niche" games like Valkyria will always have buyers. Just because your local Best Buy, Gamestop, or Wal-Mart doesn't have a game doesn't mean that it is unobtainable.
Mike D
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(09-20-2010, 09:48 PM)

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#1115

Originally Posted by Hcoregamer00:
Where is my fan translation of Radiant Mythology 2? Where are all the fan hacks into Sakura Taisen 1-4 or Sakura Taisen 1&2 for the PSP? There is just as much of a chance of something languishing as getting picked up by the gaming community.



Not to mention the ubiquity of online retailers means that "niche" games like Valkyria will always have buyers. Just because your local Best Buy, Gamestop, or Wal-Mart doesn't have a game doesn't mean that it is unobtainable.
I think because VC has more exposure to the fansub community thanks to the anime, there will be a group that will want to do VC 3's subs if the opportunity arises.

I do not prefer to play games in Japanese since I do not claim to know the language outside a few words and phrases. I would need it to be in English in some form. I mean, worst case scenario, I'd settle for a fan menu/combat guide like they did for FF XIII so I could play through it and enjoy it, but with VC, I want to know what's going on story wise. Thus, importing it or finding it at a US import shop here wouldn't be hard, but I would rather have the game officially released here.
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(09-20-2010, 09:53 PM)

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Originally Posted by TSA:
I think because VC has more exposure to the fansub community thanks to the anime, there will be a group that will want to do VC 3's subs if the opportunity arises.

I do not prefer to play games in Japanese since I do not claim to know the language outside a few words and phrases. I would need it to be in English in some form. I mean, worst case scenario, I'd settle for a fan menu/combat guide like they did for FF XIII so I could play through it and enjoy it, but with VC, I want to know what's going on story wise. Thus, importing it or finding it at a US import shop here wouldn't be hard, but I would rather have the game officially released here.
Your counterargument doesn't help since many major Tales games have had anime and manga iterations, same thing with Sakura Taisen.
RobertM
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(09-20-2010, 09:56 PM)

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#1117

Originally Posted by Hcoregamer00:
Are you serious?

The game ended too fast :lol
What? Are you guys skipping skirmish missions or am I just slow? 20 hours in and I'm still on June missions.
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(09-20-2010, 10:01 PM)

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#1118

BLiTZ Day V is up!

It may only be stickers again, but both of them are from awesome games.

Vanquish Sticker: BUNLT4EXDS74QRCR

Skies of Arcadia Sticker (Western Exclusive): WVZLPTYXURS1Q8TV


RubyEclipse promises there will be more character codes in the future.

UPDATE: Sticker stats!

Vanquish: Improves AP - AP+10

Skies of Arcadia: Improves range and side defense - RgCrct+5, Sd Def+5
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RubyEclipse
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It was nice meeting you this weekend, Giolon. To add to the later comments by other posters, Sega west actually does have a pretty big say in whether or not to localize or bring the game over. I said this before with Yakuza 3 and the same thing holds true here - when it comes down to it, numbers speak loudest.

Also, new Skies of Arcadia tank sticker (western exclusive) and a new VANQUISH sticker: http://blogs.sega.com/usa/2010/09/20...dition-part-v/

Edit: Ninja'd by Ham!
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(09-20-2010, 10:06 PM)

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#1120

Originally Posted by RubyEclipse:
It was nice meeting you this weekend, Giolon. To add to the later comments by other posters, Sega west actually does have a pretty big say in whether or not to localize or bring the game over. I said this before with Yakuza 3 and the same thing holds true here - when it comes down to it, numbers speak loudest.
Our comment was regarding the decision to make the game for the PSP. I have no doubts on Sega of America's ability to localize, I just mentioned that you got unnecessary flack for a decision that was way out of your control.
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(09-20-2010, 10:19 PM)

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#1121

Originally Posted by Hcoregamer00:
Our comment was regarding the decision to make the game for the PSP. I have no doubts on Sega of America's ability to localize, I just mentioned that you got unnecessary flack for a decision that was way out of your control.
Ah, very true. We certainly do get to throw in our opinion (I have been yelling "PS3! PS3!" and "Trophies! Trophies!" for the last year), but it's only one piece of the bigger equation.
Giolon
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(09-20-2010, 10:37 PM)

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#1122

Originally Posted by Hcoregamer00:
Get over it dude, Sega of America is nothing but a marketing and publishing arm of Sega of Japan. There is NOTHING Sega of America can do about the direction of a franchise.
[...]
Our comment was regarding the decision to make the game for the PSP. I have no doubts on Sega of America's ability to localize, I just mentioned that you got unnecessary flack for a decision that was way out of your control.
I was polite and didn't presume to speak for anyone else - it's my feedback. I don't blame him (I blame SEGA of Japan for not seemingly giving 2 flips about the US & EU audience). All I said was that I was crushed by that announcement, but I've warmed up to it a bit once the initial shock passed (it certainly helps that almost everything about it looks great and like a better direction to go than VC2 did).

Originally Posted by RubyEclipse:
It was nice meeting you this weekend, Giolon. To add to the later comments by other posters, Sega west actually does have a pretty big say in whether or not to localize or bring the game over. I said this before with Yakuza 3 and the same thing holds true here - when it comes down to it, numbers speak loudest.
It was nice to meet you too! I did forget to mention that despite my complaints about the cast and platform choice, I am enjoying VC2 quite a bit. Not as much as the first, but more than I expected to I think.

I'll update the OP and Community BLiTZ posts when I get home from work. I can't take the time to fix them up in the middle of the day. >.<


Oh, oh I forgot to mention in my previous post that I almost went all fanboy when Aliasse had her conversation with Alicia in September. It was a bit hamhanded, but it was endearing, and I think it nicely places the timing of the VC1 Epilogue around 1939-1942.
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(09-20-2010, 10:39 PM)

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Originally Posted by Giolon:
Oh, oh I forgot to mention in my previous post that I almost went all fanboy when Aliasse had her conversation with Alicia in September. It was a bit hamhanded, but it was endearing, and I think it nicely places the timing of the VC1 Epilogue around 1939-1942.
Yes, that made me feel all warm and fuzzy.

It it is a pity that Alicia couldn't get such a warm and fuzzy discussion with General Selvaria

Originally Posted by Giolon:
I was polite and didn't presume to speak for anyone else - it's my feedback. I don't blame him (I blame SEGA of Japan for not seemingly giving 2 flips about the US & EU audience). All I said was that I was rushed by that announcement, but I've warmed up to it a bit once the initial shock passed (it certainly helps that almost everything about it looks great and like a better direction to go than VC2 did).
From the way you described it, it almost sounded like you were lecturing him :lol
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(09-21-2010, 01:30 AM)

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#1124

I'm definitely a ways off, as I'm just in August now, but what does the New Game + entail? What aspects of your squad do you get to keep, if any? Like class levels, weapons research, etc.?
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(09-21-2010, 01:54 AM)

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Originally Posted by DarthWoo:
I'm definitely a ways off, as I'm just in August now, but what does the New Game + entail? What aspects of your squad do you get to keep, if any? Like class levels, weapons research, etc.?
You keep everything. You can skip to any mission you've played/unlocked for any month at anytime, as well. You get new 3 Star missions each month, starting with 1 in January. You get more as you complete them. You can also stick in any month as long as you want to trigger skits between characters to try to unlock all those. More missions become available for purchase or outright unlocked as you get As in more missions and complete months (designated with a Complete icon next to month or category). It's also not necessarily New Game+, rather it's just being able to replay everything over again at your leisure from your existing file.
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#1126

Codes added to the OP and BLiTZ link added to Post #5. Thanks, Hamblasto, for covering things during the day. :)
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#1127

Originally Posted by Hcoregamer00:
Your counterargument doesn't help since many major Tales games have had anime and manga iterations, same thing with Sakura Taisen.
Hardly anyone in the "fansub community" cared about the Tales anime :lol

I don't really know about how Valkyria was received, though, other than people who played the game first didn't like the liberties it took with the characters.
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(09-21-2010, 02:17 AM)

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Originally Posted by Quixzlizx:
I don't really know about how Valkyria was received, though, other than people who played the game first didn't like the liberties it took with the characters.
I remember having to switch the fansub group I was following since they dropped it partway through for the same reason.

On the VC2 side didn't get a chance to play much this weekend since I was playing Ace Combat: Joint Assault and then caught a cold but should return to making some progress this week. Added a couple of the new guys to my squad to see if their stories were any good (Nahum, Pete) and made it to the middle of August.
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(09-21-2010, 02:25 AM)

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#1129

Magari gets 0 Certs after killing 4 dudes and capturing

Cosette, whose only action was to buff Magari, and Noel, who OHKO'd a Tank, both get Certs.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHH
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(09-21-2010, 03:20 AM)

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Originally Posted by Giolon:
Codes added to the OP and BLiTZ link added to Post #5. Thanks, Hamblasto, for covering things during the day. :)
No problem. I just happened to be around when the posts went up.
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(09-21-2010, 04:40 AM)
#1131

You're approaching certs from the wrong way. What you're supposed to do is get credit for as many people as possible per mission. As long as they get at least one point they'll have a chance of getting what you want. You're just making yourself miserable by grinding. Here are some tips..

Pay attention to what the mission hands out and make sure the people that need those certs get credit.
Get close to completing the mission ahead of the A rank time then use that extra time for credit.
You can get credit most easily by deploying someone on a base near an enemy, getting credit for killing it, then going back to standby.
Get cheap credit for armor techs by disarming mines.
Get cheap credit for engineers by healing or repairing.

I get credit for 10-15 people on average per mission and still get a high score (again, defined as an A rank w/ all camps, red hats, leaders, tanks, aces, and no deaths). Not having any problems promoting people either despite not playing any mission more than once. It's all about efficiency and increasing your chances. What I'm most disappointed about is that there isn't a hard mode or a no grinding mode. The game is flat out too easy for anyone experienced with VC.

Originally Posted by Hamblasto:
RubyEclipse promises there will be more character codes in the future.
Yes, there has to be. We are still missing Ramal, Maximillian, Mintz, engineer Aliasse, lancer Cosette, armor tech Zeri, and Julius Kroze.
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Giolon
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(09-21-2010, 05:58 AM)

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Originally Posted by mjemirzian:
You're approaching certs from the wrong way. What you're supposed to do is get credit for as many people as possible per mission. As long as they get at least one point they'll have a chance of getting what you want. You're just making yourself miserable by grinding. Here are some tips..

Pay attention to what the mission hands out and make sure the people that need those certs get credit.
Get close to completing the mission ahead of the A rank time then use that extra time for credit.
You can get credit most easily by deploying someone on a base near an enemy, getting credit for killing it, then going back to standby.
Get cheap credit for armor techs by disarming mines.
Get cheap credit for engineers by healing or repairing.

I get credit for 10-15 people on average per mission and still get a high score (again, defined as an A rank w/ all camps, red hats, leaders, tanks, aces, and no deaths). Not having any problems promoting people either despite not playing any mission more than once. It's all about efficiency and increasing your chances.
This has basically been my strategy for the last few weeks, but it still only goes so far due to randomness. You can take someone you need on a mission that grants ArmsII X, for example, a dozen times, have them land in 1st place, last place, and every place in between and still not come out with what you need. It's why some of my people are sitting on piles of things like Diplomas, and others are starving for them.
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(09-21-2010, 06:01 AM)

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Originally Posted by mjemirzian:
You're approaching certs from the wrong way. What you're supposed to do is get credit for as many people as possible per mission. As long as they get at least one point they'll have a chance of getting what you want. You're just making yourself miserable by grinding. Here are some tips..

Pay attention to what the mission hands out and make sure the people that need those certs get credit.
Get close to completing the mission ahead of the A rank time then use that extra time for credit.
You can get credit most easily by deploying someone on a base near an enemy, getting credit for killing it, then going back to standby.
Get cheap credit for armor techs by disarming mines.
Get cheap credit for engineers by healing or repairing.

I get credit for 10-15 people on average per mission and still get a high score (again, defined as an A rank w/ all camps, red hats, leaders, tanks, aces, and no deaths). Not having any problems promoting people either despite not playing any mission more than once. It's all about efficiency and increasing your chances. What I'm most disappointed about is that there isn't a hard mode or a no grinding mode. The game is flat out too easy for anyone experienced with VC.
Look, thanks for the tip, and if you're having no problems with getting the Credits you need, more power to you, but I already know how Credit acquisition works. I also get around a dozen or more people acquiring Credits after missions.

I have been using Magari consistently since April (read: every single mission). I am currently in November, where the average mook is already 3rd tier and has been for a while. No certificates.

I have every single Credit needed to promote Magari to every single branch in her entire promotion tree except for a Certificate.

She has healed others, repaired the APC, killed Aces, killed leaders, and captured camps. No certificates.

I have done every single mission thus far that allows you to acquire Certificates, and Magari has not walked away from a single one of them with a Certificate.

Other characters whom I have subbed in (including one forced on you in the middle of September) have already gotten their Certificates. Magari has not.

The chances of you acquiring a Certificate go down starting around the end of August because you can now acquire up to six different Credits in a single mission and still have only up to three slots (usually two) with which to earn them.

So please excuse me if I don't find your advice particularly helpful.
mjemirzian
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(09-21-2010, 06:36 AM)
#1134

Originally Posted by Pureauthor:
I also get around a dozen or more people acquiring Credits after missions.
That doesn't matter if you're grinding because you can play any mission as many times as you want. Secondly, your units are far more powerful than someone who hasn't been grinding, so you can hardly compare your mission results to mine.

Originally Posted by Pureauthor:
I have been using Magari consistently since April (read: every single mission). I am currently in November, where the average mook is already 3rd tier and has been for a while. No certificates.

She has healed others, repaired the APC, killed Aces, killed leaders, and captured camps. No certificates.
It doesn't matter if most everyone else is already promoted. The game isn't designed to be played with personal biases for one unit. Why would you mention her activities when it doesn't matter what they do as long as they have at least one credit at the end of the mission? You claim to know how it works then mention irrelevant details. You're just ranting.

Originally Posted by Pureauthor:
The chances of you acquiring a Certificate go down starting around the end of August
Uhh, grind the earlier missions?

Originally Posted by Pureauthor:
So please excuse me if I don't find your advice particularly helpful.
Um, right. My advice was for people who wanted to play the game without grinding while still having enough credits to promote a reasonable number of people, not people who are hung up on their favorite character who they can't get a certificate for. For you there's no advice but to keep on grinding.

Originally Posted by Giolon:
This has basically been my strategy for the last few weeks, but it still only goes so far due to randomness.
Yes, that's why you use as many people as possible per mission. For example, if you have a mission that gives Mrch and Mrch X, try to get credit for as many scouts and armor techs as possible. The odds are in your favor someone will get something to promote with, even if it's not the person you would prefer.
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#1135

Originally Posted by mjemirzian:
That doesn't matter if you're grinding because you can play any mission as many times as you want. Secondly, your units are far more powerful than someone who hasn't been grinding, so you can hardly compare your mission results to mine.
In which case, who were you talking to when you said that 'you would only make yourself miserable' by grinding?

And, no, grinding missions for drops don't make your characters noticeably stronger in the main game - you always have more than enough money to stay on top of upgrades anyway, and the experience gained from earlier missions (AKA the ones that can be done quickly for Credits) isn't enough to make a difference. Not that individual levels make a large difference by themselves.

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It doesn't matter if most everyone else is already promoted. The game isn't designed to be played with personal biases for one unit. Why would you mention her activities when it doesn't matter what they do as long as they have at least one credit at the end of the mission? You claim to know how it works then mention irrelevant details. You're just ranting.
If the game isn't designed with the idea of using individual units on the basis of personality and/or usefulness, then why are there classmate missions designed to expand our knowledge and understanding of the various characters? Why does each character have different Potentials that allow them to be used in specific classes or situations?

Also, in case you hadn't noted it the first time, Magari has every single Credit needed for everything except a Certificate. A single drop is the only thing keeping me from moving her to whatever class I want.

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Um, right. My advice was for people who wanted to play the game without grinding while still having enough credits to promote a reasonable number of people, not people who are hung up on their favorite character who they can't get a certificate for. For you there's no advice but to keep on grinding.
In which case I am fairly certain that anyone who played the game for any reasonable amount of time would have already noticed to the methods needed for acquiring Credits in general. And once more - if the developers did not intend for us to use characters on the basis of our like or dislike for them, why give each one distinct personalities and roles in combat, even within the same subclasses?
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mjemirzian
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(09-21-2010, 07:19 AM)
#1136

Originally Posted by Pureauthor:
In which case, who were you talking to when you said that 'you would only make yourself miserable' by grinding?

And, no, grinding missions for drops don't make your characters noticeably stronger in the main game
I was addressing anyone who is playing the game in a manner that frustrates them. You're not the first person to complain about the credit system.

Grinding does make the game significantly easier. You can early promote people (better stats, weapons, etc.), access infinite XP and funds, and unlock potentials. You can switch classes around and potential grind to get a brokenly powerful double action, double movement fencer elite Avan for example. You do not have enough funds to afford all upgrades, which you would know if you actually tried it. You have limited resources to develop weapons with. Infinite XP means better stats, access to more orders, and not having to choose between levels and buying orders from Alicia and Welkin. In addition, if you only play the missions once each, you can't afford to miss out on XP, aces, or resources because all of those things are limited instead of unlimited. You have to do it all in one attempt, instead of getting an A on one try, then the ace on another try, then the resources on a third try, etc. Of course you should be aiming for a high score anyway.

Originally Posted by Pureauthor:
If the game isn't designed with the idea of using individual units on the basis of personality and/or usefulness, then why are there classmate missions designed to expand our knowledge and understanding of the various characters?
You don't need to promote people to get their classmate missions, you just have to use them. Didn't use someone enough to get their classmate mission? New Game+
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Pureauthor
(09-21-2010, 07:29 AM)

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#1137

Originally Posted by mjemirzian:
Grinding does make the game significantly easier. You can early promote people (better stats, weapons, etc.), access infinite XP and funds, and unlock potentials. You can switch classes around and potential grind to get a brokenly powerful double action, double movement fencer elite Avan for example. You do not have enough funds to afford all upgrades, which you would know if you actually tried it. You have limited resources to develop weapons with. Infinite XP means better stats, access to more orders, and not having to choose between levels and buying orders from Alicia and Welkin. In addition, if you only play the missions once each, you can't afford to miss out on XP, aces, or resources because all of those things are limited instead of unlimited. You have to do it all in one attempt, instead of getting an A on one try, then the ace on another try, then the resources on a third try, etc.
I'm willing to chalk the rest up to differences in playstyle and acknowledge you as being right insofar that you don't worry about individual classmates, but concerning the bolded statement:

I have every single relevant upgrade (AKA I ignored any Vehicular upgrades not connected to the Utility APC because I do not intend to use them, ever) up to November, and I had them before I ever started grinding (and in an easy to complete March mission where the payload is pitiful, too), and I still have over 300, 000 DCT that I have nothing to do with. So I honestly don't know why you have money issues.
mjemirzian
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(09-21-2010, 07:44 AM)
#1138

Originally Posted by Pureauthor:
I'm willing to chalk the rest up to differences in playstyle and acknowledge you as being right insofar that you don't worry about individual classmates, but concerning the bolded statement:

I have every single relevant upgrade (AKA I ignored any Vehicular upgrades not connected to the Utility APC because I do not intend to use them, ever) up to November, and I had them before I ever started grinding (and in an easy to complete March mission where the payload is pitiful, too), and I still have over 300, 000 DCT that I have nothing to do with. So I honestly don't know why you have money issues.
Even if you ignore a bunch of stuff like sidegrades and tank upgrades, you still won't have enough funds at the beginning of a month to upgrade all the new stuff plus the purchasable missions. By the end of the month I usually have just about everything purchased, but then another round of upgrades begins. There are also two sides to upgrades. You need both funds and materials, which are usually in limited supply.
Lain
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(09-21-2010, 01:17 PM)

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#1139

I keep spending my time in February doing some free missions and somewhat Mirion's first mission popped up. Had to redo it a couple times. The first time I didn't like that some of my men died while trying to kill the ace, so I did a reset. The second time I finished it in 2 turns but didn't save and when I did it again I got 2 people inside the light tank blown up, which meant reload, so I redid it a third time, finished it in two turns again but got Eloise (my tank) blown up (which made me get a medal, lol).

Anyways, I've noticed that the units disposition change when redoing missions, although I thought the aces would always be in the same spot. I only saw the ace in the mission the first time around (and he was hard to take down, especially because I can't change classes to the advanced ones yet while that map is rife with them).
mjemirzian
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(09-21-2010, 03:44 PM)
#1140

Yeah enemies are placed semi-randomly in one of 2-3 positions. Aces usually have two spawn points. I kind of like it, makes each mission a little more exciting and unpredictable and you have to adjust your strategy on the fly with no reloading. Kind of like Fire Emblem.
jcm
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(09-21-2010, 03:47 PM)

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Okay, Akihiko-senpai is beating the shit out of me in April. Is this is difficulty spike, or a preview of how hard the game is about to become? I'm only willing to struggle so much with games. If it's a single difficult battle I'll persevere, but if the rest of the game is like this I'll restart on easy.

I've tried to follow the advice in this thread, but I'm still losing badly. Any additional tips would be appreciated.
mjemirzian
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(09-21-2010, 04:03 PM)
#1142

It is a difficulty spike, for sure. My strat was to grab bases as quickly as possible using shocks. Try to capture bases 'backwards' so you can deploy from a position behind the enemies. Most importantly, you want the utility APC with rockbreaker and constructor arm. On the first turn repair the ladder near your start point then drive north over the ice and start wrecking havoc with a flamethrower. Up the repaired ladder you can start a series of backwards base captures and hit enemy tanks and shocks from behind.

Leave shocks behind at the captured bases and standby them (press triangle) as you progress towards the warehouse. The warehouse is the toughest part because there's usually tanks, artillery, and shocks nearby and it's hard to get around behind them. Just use some lancers and shocks to clear that out.

As for the boss.. just avoid him if you can. He can definitely ruin your day if you get unlucky.

This strat got me an A and all bases captured bonus.
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radiantdreamer
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(09-21-2010, 04:47 PM)

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#1143

Originally Posted by Pureauthor:
Magari gets 0 Certs after killing 4 dudes and capturing

Cosette, whose only action was to buff Magari, and Noel, who OHKO'd a Tank, both get Certs.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHH
I went so far as to taking Avan into a Mrch X mission solo, A-ranked, killed A LOT of enemies, and he still only came out with Mrch credits. It's stupid. I hate it when RPG drops are totally random.

Everyone's got all sorts of random crap but are still usually one short of upgrading. It's like the McDonald's Monopoly game where everyone's got Park Place and is missing Boardwalk.

I'll bet it's not random. I'll bet the developers are using a deliberate withholding system to lengthen gameplay.
Hcoregamer00
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(09-21-2010, 04:47 PM)

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#1144

Originally Posted by jcm:
Okay, Akihiko-senpai is beating the shit out of me in April. Is this is difficulty spike, or a preview of how hard the game is about to become? I'm only willing to struggle so much with games. If it's a single difficult battle I'll persevere, but if the rest of the game is like this I'll restart on easy.

I've tried to follow the advice in this thread, but I'm still losing badly. Any additional tips would be appreciated.
The March & April missions are the hardest in the game, the game gets SO MUCH EASIER after that.
mjemirzian
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(09-21-2010, 06:11 PM)
#1145

Originally Posted by Hcoregamer00:
The March & April missions are the hardest in the game, the game gets SO MUCH EASIER after that.
Depends on your goals. If you try to get the highest score possible on each mission the difficulty is maintained and then some.
Giolon
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(09-21-2010, 07:29 PM)

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#1146

Siliconera has a new interview posted with the VC series producer. He has a hilariously inflated opinion of the quality, uniqueness, and likeability of their main VC2 cast:

http://www.siliconera.com/2010/09/20...chronicles-ii/

Some choice quotes:
Quote:
We also thought it would be easier for the players to reflect themselves onto the characters, because most people have experienced school life up to their late teens.
The problem is, this is not a realistic high school (closest to a boarding school, which isn't a particularly common experience), nor is it populated with realistic characters. Everyone is a stereotype or anime trope.

Quote:
Avan turned out just perfect. Nowadays, a character like him rarely appears even in a Japanese game, but we believe he is the right person for Valkyria Chronicles II.
Almost made me choke on my green tea during lunch.
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Salaadin
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(09-21-2010, 07:45 PM)

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#1147

Originally Posted by Giolon:
Siliconera has a new interview posted with the VC series producer. He has a hilariously inflated opinion of the quality, uniqueness, and likeability of their main VC2 cast:

http://www.siliconera.com/2010/09/20...chronicles-ii/

Some choice quotes:

[avan]HA HA - HAHAHA HA- HAHA [/avan]
Hcoregamer00
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(09-21-2010, 07:46 PM)

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#1148

Originally Posted by Giolon:
Siliconera has a new interview posted with the VC series producer. He has a hilariously inflated opinion of the quality, uniqueness, and likeability of their main VC2 cast:

http://www.siliconera.com/2010/09/20...chronicles-ii/

Some choice quotes:
Here are some more quotes with my thoughts.

Quote:
The base image of the setting is Eastern Europe after World War II, including the former Germany divided into the East and West. Based on that idea, we framed a story well suited for the Valkyria Chronicles brand to create Valkyria Chronicles II
Pretty freaking awesome, so they really did design Valkyria 2 as a continuation of World War II by following history a little bit. Makes you wonder what will be the historical influence for Valkyira 3 since it sounds more like Ingluorious Basterds more than any historical influence.

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Now that the game is complete, I agree that Avan turned out just perfect. Nowadays, a character like him rarely appears even in a Japanese game, but we believe he is the right person for Valkyria Chronicles II.
Screw you guys, his character appears too often in Anime and Manga. Avan is basically Naruto or Monkey D. Luffy without the charm.

Quote:
Adding episodes of each character is another major change. Valkyria Chronicles II has 30 mini scenarios in addition to the main story. We heard from many of the prequel fans that they wanted to see more stories of the secondary characters, so it was important to make that wish come true.
Yes, you did it and it worked wonderfully well. You better expand upon it for Valkyria 3.

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Besides the games, we would also like to extend the franchise to other media such as comics and anime. Personally, I wish to novelize the story. When the story is described only in writing, it could provide us different aspects of the story compared to the game or anime. …Besides, I love reading!
If they make an anime of Valkyria II, Anisette, Coleen, and Marion better get more air time or I will have to hurt someone.
Hamblasto
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(09-21-2010, 10:40 PM)

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#1149

BLiTZ Part VI is up!

No new character. But if you want to represent for Edy, there's a new sticker for you.

Squad 7's "Idol" Sticker: R5PT1MXEY3BW8VBE

Sticker Stats: Imprvs vs prsnnl atk, less crit def - VsPsnl+5, AilRes-5

For those of you with Phantasy Star Portable 2, there's also a code you can use to get an Edelweiss room item.

PSP2 Edelweiss Item: 54333358
Paznos
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(09-21-2010, 10:47 PM)

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#1150

Man can't decide whether to start this or Birth by Sleep first.