[gdt]

I've always loved how it takes multiple people to get Jack to finally accept whats going on (Locke/Kate/Christian). Stubborn till the end :lol .

[Erigu]

I think it was more about Locke accepting help from anyone else but himself or some higher power he dreamed up .

I never got the impression Locke really couldn't bring himself to seek help from somebody else... Just off the top of my head, there was Helen (whom he met in a support group), the hippie community, Boone, Eko, Desmond, Unexplained Christian Ghost in that well ("no, I can't help you, John, for I am an Unexplained Asshole"), Widmore, the Oceanic 6...

Pretty much this. Major role-reversal between Jack and Locke.

Not exactly a new situation for Jack... After the operation, I was half-expecting him to propose to Locke.
(speaking of which... is that "don't trust her Jack" line for real or mere vandalism? hilarious if true! :lol )

Locke feeling his toes move is what gets him to remember. He, like the other characters in the flash-sideways, must first overcome an issue before being awoken to move on. Locke moving his toes isn't the issue he has to overcome, just the catalyst to get him to remember.

That thing about "having to remember" is still an issue that was manufactured by the afterlife in the first place...

[BenjaminBirdie]

I never got the impression Locke really couldn't bring himself to seek help from somebody else... Just off the top of my head, there was Helen (whom he met in a support group), the hippie community, Boone, Eko, Desmond, Unexplained Christian Ghost in that well ("no, I can't help you, John, for I am an Unexplained Asshole"), Widmore, the Oceanic 6...

A support group he hated immediately.

[brandonh83]

That thing about "having to remember" is still an issue that was manufactured by the afterlife in the first place...

That is, yes. But it's not the only obstacle for them. They each have to overcome something even before remembering.

[BenjaminBirdie]

That thing about "having to remember" is still an issue that was manufactured by the afterlife in the first place...

Makes sense, as it was manufactured by the island as a reward.

[Erigu]

A support group he hated immediately.

My point is, he went there in the first place.

That is, yes. But it's not the only obstacle for them. They each have to overcome something even before remembering.

What did Kate overcome, for example? Apart from the sight of Claire's vagina?

[brandonh83]

What did Kate overcome, for example? Apart from the sight of Claire's vagina?

First of all, this kind of attitude is a contributing factor to why so many people find your ramblings increasingly annoying. Just thought I would throw that out there.

Anyway, to answer your question, Kate's theme in the flashbacks was that she was always on the run. In the flash-sideways, she started out much the same way. However, when she runs into Claire, she has two options: stay on the run, or help her out. She makes the choice that she probably would not have made before crashing on the island.

[SLYspyda]

Thanks Blader and Gdt for the score suggestions

[Erigu]

Makes sense, as it was manufactured by the island as a reward.

Says who? ^^;

Anyway, my point was that the limbo thing's purpose is... let's be nice and say "quite vague".
Was it character growth? If so, it did a pretty bad job at it, considering some characters were just going through the same issues as before without any actual resolution (Sawyer going after Cooper, for example? that went nowhere: he just saw Juliet and "oooooh, let's go to the church together!"), and others were dealing with new, different issues brought up by the afterlife itself (Jack and his son... resolved, but who cares? the kid never existed!).
Was it to show those characters were destined to find each other, plane crash or not? If so, maybe the writers shouldn't have had Special Desmond work overtime to bring them together. Or explained that the whole point of that weird afterlife was that they'd find each other (so no surprise, there).

First of all, this kind of attitude is a contributing factor to why so many people find your ramblings increasingly annoying. Just thought I would throw that out there.

Hey, that's how it happened! :lol

Kate's theme in the flashbacks was that she was always on the run. In the flash-sideways, she started out much the same way. However, when she runs into Claire, she has two options: stay on the run, or help her out. She makes the choice that she probably would not have made before crashing on the island.

Let's ignore for a moment the fact she did get caught because she tried to save somebody else... So that was supposed to tell us that Kate had changed? Didn't we see that she could be altruistic already, on the island?

[threenote]

Parting Words Oceanic 815 Moving On (the final piece of the show)

Let me add to this post:

Lying for the Island
The Constant
The Science of Faith
Ta-Ta Charlie
Looking Glass Half Full
Pagoda of Shame/Deadly Fertility

[brandonh83]

It's true that Kate did that, but she was hiding on the guy's farm and he actually let her and took care of her. Kate has always had a soft side, no doubt, and when he asked her to stay for just another night, she didn't see the harm in it and didn't think he would turn her in. I'm not saying that your point is invalid, I just think it's an entirely different circumstance altogether.

[Erigu]

I'm not saying that your point is invalid, I just think it's an entirely different circumstance altogether.

Well, yeah, as there's the fact Kate's having weird déjà-vus from her previous (real?) life, this time around... That's a factor too, isn't it?

[brandonh83]

Well, yeah, as there's the fact Kate's having weird déjà-vus from her previous (real?) life, this time around... That's a factor too, isn't it?

What do you mean, specifically, in relation to this particular debate?

[Erigu]

What do you mean, specifically, in relation to this particular debate?

That it's not character growth if she's simply remembering that she likes Claire.

You end up with an afterlife that makes her forget things that she then has to remember... So all in all, the whole thing is pointless.
And it's not like there's any "challenge" when it comes to remembering all that stuff, as they just need to find their "significant others" and we're told that afterlife exists so that eventually happens: that's the whole point (plus, you have Convenient Desmond around to speed things up, here!).
All you're left with is the fireworks when it all comes back to the characters. "Awwwww!" Cheap emotional manipulation, like I (and many others) said before.

[brandonh83]

I... don't agree? I don't really know what else to say, if I continued the argument it would just be content based on my opinions. I don't think it was emotional manipulation at all and I disagree with virtually everything you wrote there. I'm comfortable with leaving it at that.

[Erigu]

Yeah, 'guess we just won't see eye to eye, when it comes to Lost (or Siren, for that matter :lol ).

[brandonh83]

Yeah, 'guess we just won't see eye to eye, when it comes to Lost (or Siren, for that matter :lol ).

:lol Siren is good.

[Erigu]

Oh?! 'Guess I was mistaken about that, then: we do agree about Siren. :lol

[neoism]

I've always loved how it takes multiple people to get Jack to finally accept whats going on (Locke/Kate/Christian). Stubborn till the end :lol .

Just another reason why he is AWESOME!

[gdt]

I have let go.

[DarkWish]

I can't believe I didn't notice this before but Mr. Eko and Caesar were in G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra. Just watched that on Netflix and noticed it. I guess it makes sense though, cause I didn't start watching Lost until after I saw the movie for the first time. But still, everywhere I go, there's always someone or something that reminds me of this show. I just can't let go!

[Drealmcc0y]

http://theoriesonlost.blogspot.com/2...#disqus_thread

This is the most ultimate theory on Walt I have ever seen.

I am now complete.

[brandonh83]

Oh?! 'Guess I was mistaken about that, then: we do agree about Siren. :lol

Good deal!

I've shouted out in the discussion thread that I don't think Siren is as good/scary as everyone makes it out to be, but no, it's a solid horror game.

And that theory on Walt is pretty good, it's kind of obvious but the write-up does a good job at combining a lot of facts more coherently.

[VistraNorrez]

Another funny little coincidence, In "Special" Walt says how he doesn't want to study Australian birds because they live in Australia and that he'd rather study Egyptian birds.

[Merovin]

Kate, we have to go back! :D Gotta find someone who has not seen it so I can re-watch it with them.

That looks beautiful, I hope the EU Premium Box Set is as stunning as this. My hopes aren't too high though.

[oatmeal]

I got my parents into LOST while I've been visiting them. They're about halfway through the first season.

My sister in law is almost done season 6, I watched What Kate Does with her and my brother and enjoyed it A LOT more than I did the first time.

Watching it week to week was so hard because there was so much pressure for 'answers' and 'resolutions' and 'megatons'. So when that episode was just...whatever, everyone (including me) hated it.

But it's not THAT bad. It just is.

[Drealmcc0y]

I got my parents into LOST while I've been visiting them. They're about halfway through the first season. My sister in law is almost done season 6, I watched What Kate Does with her and my brother and enjoyed it A LOT more than I did the first time. Watching it week to week was so hard because there was so much pressure for 'answers' and 'resolutions' and 'megatons'. So when that episode was just...whatever, everyone (including me) hated it. But it's not THAT bad. It just is.

I think you're right.

I despised WKD when it first aired, i was like one of those finale haters, shouting my mouth off(which i regret) about how bad it was whenever I could.

But thinking back, theres some pretty good scenes in it and the FSW events with Kate and Claire seem less ridiculous knowing what we know now.

[Drealmcc0y]

That looks beautiful, I hope the EU Premium Box Set is as stunning as this. My hopes aren't too high though.

The EU box set has less extras and the box doesnt look as cool :(

[DarkWish]

http://theoriesonlost.blogspot.com/2...#disqus_thread This is the most ultimate theory on Walt I have ever seen. I am now complete.

Wow, that is awesome and totally makes sense.

[Erigu]

It totally makes sense that Jacob knew Walt would become the protector of the island, but decided to ignore that and focus on not doing anything about his candidates for years?
That the MIB could somehow take Walt's appearance?
Etc etc.

[oatmeal]

Great theory. Makes sense.

Watched "Special" today with my dad, fits in perfect. And with the mobisode "Room 23".

Nope, not a single hole for Walter Lloyd anymore. Cleared up perfectly.

If only someone was out there to refute that...

[DarkWish]

Amazon page says the Lost Encyclopedia is coming October 14th. That's not too far away, so that's cool.

[Tim-E]

I need that fucking season six soundtrack. When does it drop?

[threenote]

I need that fucking season six soundtrack. When does it drop?

6 days I believe.

[Tim-E]

6 days I believe.

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[Merovin]

The EU box set has less extras and the box doesnt look as cool :(

This makes me sad. :(
I know some Blu-Rays are region free, but there was a couple of seasons of Lost that weren't region free on Blu-Ray. Does anyone have any idea if the complete collection is/isn't?

[DoctorWho]

Amazon page says the Lost Encyclopedia is coming October 14th. That's not too far away, so that's cool.

Tempted to grab that.

[Drealmcc0y]

This makes me sad. :( I know some Blu-Rays are region free, but there was a couple of seasons of Lost that weren't region free on Blu-Ray. Does anyone have any idea if the complete collection is/isn't?

I think in the complete collection S1, 2, 5 and 6 are region free but S3 and 4 are not.

Weird i know :(

[Merovin]

I think in the complete collection S1, 2, 5 and 6 are region free but S3 and 4 are not. Weird i know :(

God damn, guess I have to deal with second best! :(

[DarkWish]

Does anyone know if iTunes will put up the season 6 soundtrack to pre-order before its release, or will they just wait until release day to put it up? I'm curious as to how much it'll cost on iTunes.

[7echnicolor]

Does anyone know if iTunes will put up the season 6 soundtrack to pre-order before its release, or will they just wait until release day to put it up? I'm curious as to how much it'll cost on iTunes.

I don't think they'll put it up for pre-order. But since the release date is Sep 14th- it'll be put on iTunes at around 10-11pm on Monday the 13th.
I'm thinking the price for it will be $9.99

[DarkWish]

I don't think they'll put it up for pre-order. But since the release date is Sep 14th- it'll be put on iTunes at around 10-11pm on Monday the 13th. I'm thinking the price for it will be $9.99

Cool, thanks. I hope it's $9.99 cause I have like $10 of credit so that would be nice to use.

[7echnicolor]

Cool, thanks. I hope it's $9.99 cause I have like $10 of credit so that would be nice to use.

Usually the Lost sountracks are $9.99 on iTunes (and other online/digital retailers) so hopefully the Season 6 OST follows that trend.

[DarkWish]

Usually the Lost sountracks are $9.99 on iTunes (and other online/digital retailers) so hopefully the Season 6 OST follows that trend.

The only reason I ask is cause the season 6 soundtrack is two discs and the last time we had a two disc soundtrack (for season 3), I think it was $19.99, so I just wanted to double check.

[Snuggler]

I finally got the watch the Man in Charge. I haven't got the box set yet but I rented the final disc of Season 6 for the extras. Honestly, I didn't like it. I was hoping to get a little peak at life after the events of Lost and a chance to see some characters, but it was all about answering the little questions that we have already figured about and that I don't care about for the most part. The brief bit with Hurley made me smile, though. I guess I'm just not an answer-man, that's not what I love about Lost.

The extra features were great. The on set stuff was really fun to watch. The feature about the final season almost had me in tears with the cast getting all emotional about the show ending and reflecting on their characters. It was great to see how much they enjoyed doing the show, and being reminded of how much I enjoyed it as well. It made me think of how much I love this show and what a great time I had watching it. Lost was a joy to watch and I look forward to revisiting it many times in the future.
Favorite TV show ever. ♥

[gdt]

Can someone give me a link to that video where Jorge Garcia reads the final script for the first time? I've been looking for awhile...

[Blader5489]

Can someone give me a link to that video where Jorge Garcia reads the final script for the first time? I've been looking for awhile...

It was pulled down.

[BenjaminBirdie]

It was pulled down.

It's in the box set though, maybe even the S6 box itself if you haven't bought the Complete stizz.

[gdt]

It's in the box set though, maybe even the S6 box itself if you haven't bought the Complete stizz.

Yeah, I'm buying the Complete set ASAP, but I wanted to show that bit to someone else.

[Snuggler]

It's in the box set though, maybe even the S6 box itself if you haven't bought the Complete stizz.

Yeah, it's in the season 6 set as well. It's in the segment I was talking about, the one about crafting the final season.

So emotional...: (