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rainking187 · (09-11-2010, 07:01 AM)

Originally Posted by ummo:

does anyone checked this already?

http://www.walmart.com/ip/ICO-Shadow...ion-3/15061046

Posting this for a junior member. From the Shadow of the Colossus thread, I thought it deserved it's own thread.

DMPrince · (09-11-2010, 07:01 AM)

can't trust walmart with their MAG 2 listing.

squinters · (09-11-2010, 07:01 AM)

What I've been waiting for.

jonabbey · (09-11-2010, 07:02 AM)

Damn right, Sony.

Narag · (09-11-2010, 07:02 AM)

No doubt a cruel April Fools joke put in place early.

ShockingAlberto · (09-11-2010, 07:09 AM)

Huh

TGS stuff is leaking early

Equus Bellator Apex · (09-11-2010, 07:11 AM)

Originally Posted by ShockingAlberto:

Huh

TGS stuff is leaking early

When is TGS again?

DidntKnowJack · (09-11-2010, 07:12 AM)

Nothing else to say but...

Woot!

vodka-bull · (09-11-2010, 07:12 AM)

Seriously, did anybody doubt that a SotC/ICo collection will come? I didn't, but what I highly doubt is that we'll see a release of the much more important project, Last Guardian, before the end of 2011.

Damn Team ICO...

Mush · (09-11-2010, 07:12 AM)

For.

neojubei · (09-11-2010, 07:14 AM)

If it gets the GOW collection treatment i am all on board.

Branduil · (09-11-2010, 07:14 AM)

I guess I'm going to have to get a PS3 at some point.

If they can get SotC running in HD at 60fps, that will be really nice.

GamerGeorge · (09-11-2010, 07:14 AM)

Originally Posted by Equus Bellator Apex:

When is TGS again?

September 16-19.

Killthee · (09-11-2010, 07:15 AM)

:D

UnluckyKate · (09-11-2010, 07:15 AM)

As usual Sony, worst secret of TGS

PepsimanVsJoe · (09-11-2010, 07:16 AM)

Good I can quit screwing around trying to play through SOTC again on my shitbox TV.

Chaser · (09-11-2010, 07:16 AM)

Excellent news. I would gladly double-dip for 60fps/HD.

Chrysalis · (09-11-2010, 07:16 AM)

Bought, but...

that makes me part of the problem. It still kills me (as a Sony fan) that they cut BC the way they did. I had a launch unit to upscale old games, but it died. I suppose I could buy another PS2 and play that, but it would look like crap on my HD monitor. So...Sony to the rescue! Re-purchase your gaming catalog to solve a problem we created!

Branduil · (09-11-2010, 07:18 AM)

I'm curious what they'll do for ICO HD, the original game ran in supersampled 240x320, which gave it a sort of soft-focus feel. I guess they could just use some kind of soft-focus depth-of-field effect.

SolidSnakex · (09-11-2010, 07:18 AM)

Originally Posted by Chrysalis:

Bought, but...

that makes me part of the problem. It still kills me (as a Sony fan) that they cut BC the way they did. I had a launch unit to upscale old games, but it died. I suppose I could buy another PS2 and play that, but it would look like crap on my HD monitor. So...Sony to the rescue! Re-purchase your gaming catalog to solve a problem we created!

Sigh. You do realize that what they're doing with these HD Collections is something that can't be achieved with BC? SoTC would still have a ton of slowdown if you played it through a BC PS3.

Chrysalis · (09-11-2010, 07:20 AM)

Originally Posted by SolidSnakex:

Sigh. You do realize that what they're doing with these HD Collections is something that can't be achieved with BC? SoTC would still have a ton of slowdown if you played it through a BC PS3.

I get that, and that eases the hurt a bit. Still, I wonder whether any of these HD collections would have been made if the PS3 still offered full BC. Methinks not.

Augemitbutter · (09-11-2010, 07:20 AM)

Originally Posted by Chrysalis:

Bought, but...

that makes me part of the problem. It still kills me (as a Sony fan) that they cut BC the way they did. I had a launch unit to upscale old games, but it died. I suppose I could buy another PS2 and play that, but it would look like crap on my HD monitor. So...Sony to the rescue! Re-purchase your gaming catalog to solve a problem we created!

uh, what? this has nothing to do with simple BC :lol

Novella · (09-11-2010, 07:21 AM)

This makes me uncomfortable.

Let's just go ahead and get some guy to repaint the "Mona Lisa" and hang it in the museum.

Boney · (09-11-2010, 07:22 AM)

That's pretty nice I guess. Rereleases of good games are never a bad thing.

SolidSnakex · (09-11-2010, 07:23 AM)

Originally Posted by Chrysalis:

I get that, and that eases the hurt a bit. Still, I wonder whether any of these HD collections would have been made if the PS3 still offered full BC. Methinks not.

They would've still been released. Most people that have PS3's also have or had PS2's. So if they wanted to play those games in the form that they can be played on the PS2 then they would've done that. The PS3 allows you to play them at 60fps, no screen tearing and with a greatly improved resolution. Oh and trophies for those that really care about them.

ShockingAlberto · (09-11-2010, 07:23 AM)

Originally Posted by Novella:

This makes me uncomfortable.

Let's just go ahead and get some guy to repaint the "Mona Lisa" and hang it in the museum.

do you realize they touch up the Mona Lisa every so often or are you joking

I am inclined to believe the latter

Drkirby · (09-11-2010, 07:23 AM)

Glad I just sold my disc only copy of Ico that I got for $3 at goodwill for $35 a few weeks back.

Branduil · (09-11-2010, 07:24 AM)

Originally Posted by Novella:

This makes me uncomfortable.

Let's just go ahead and get some guy to repaint the "Mona Lisa" and hang it in the museum.

This analogy is so bad it's like you committed the Holocaust on analogies.

gutter_trash · (09-11-2010, 07:24 AM)

Originally Posted by Novella:

This makes me uncomfortable.

Let's just go ahead and get some guy to repaint the "Mona Lisa" and hang it in the museum.

LOL what?
day 1 for me

Narag · (09-11-2010, 07:24 AM)

Originally Posted by Novella:

This makes me uncomfortable.

Let's just go ahead and get some guy to repaint the "Mona Lisa" and hang it in the museum.

Yeah I'd sure to hate lose that visceral feel of single frames per second in SotC as if I was in such danger that time itself was slowing down. Bring on the version that isn't hindered by hardware limitation, I say!

sykoex · (09-11-2010, 07:24 AM)

Originally Posted by Novella:

This makes me uncomfortable.

Let's just go ahead and get some guy to repaint the "Mona Lisa" and hang it in the museum.

Agreed, generally works of art like this shouldn't be re-purposed. But as long as it has Fumito Ueda's blessing then I'm okay with it. I'm so sorry for typing out this silly post.

vodka-bull · (09-11-2010, 07:25 AM)

Originally Posted by SolidSnakex:

Sigh. You do realize that what they're doing with these HD Collections is something that can't be achieved with BC? SoTC would still have a ton of slowdown if you played it through a BC PS3.

I've never heard of slowdown issues with God of War and besides the trophies there's nothing they did which was worth a damn (ie 40 bucks) if the PS3 would still be backwardscompatible. And of course, they wouldn't release these HD collections if B/C would still exists.

Trent Strong · (09-11-2010, 07:25 AM)

Thank God. I never played Ico.

Boney · (09-11-2010, 07:26 AM)

Originally Posted by Drkirby:

Glad I just sold my disc only copy of Ico that I got for $3 at goodwill for $35 a few weeks back.

that's how you do business.

DownLikeBCPowder · (09-11-2010, 07:27 AM)

So I should sell that sealed Ico now, huh?

Micromegas · (09-11-2010, 07:27 AM)

Originally Posted by Novella:

This makes me uncomfortable.

Let's just go ahead and get some guy to repaint the "Mona Lisa" and hang it in the museum.

What makes you think this hasn't already been done?

tokkun · (09-11-2010, 07:27 AM)

I see the game is being released on April Fool's Day 2011. How convenient.

Krev · (09-11-2010, 07:28 AM)

April 1? Sure...

ummo · (09-11-2010, 07:28 AM)

thanks for the quote rainking187

Preorder this item today and it should arrive on or just after 04/01/2011 april's... not with ueda's magic please...

there's also a release date hmmm, someone at walmart it's about to be fired / promoted / embargo executed.

Branduil · (09-11-2010, 07:28 AM)

A better analogy is a painting that's just been restored. Some people might like the version with duller colors as a matter of preference, but it's silly to say restoring art is desecrating it.

GrotesqueBeauty · (09-11-2010, 07:30 AM)

Originally Posted by Branduil:

A better analogy is a painting that's just been restored. Some people might like the version with duller colors as a matter of preference, but it's silly to say restoring art is desecrating it.

In some cases it is (see: Sistine Chapel), but I hardly think Ico and SotC qualify. Shitty frame rates and standard definition have absolutely nothing to do with what made those games good.

Augemitbutter · (09-11-2010, 07:32 AM)

Originally Posted by vodka-bull:

I've never heard of slowdown issues with God of War and besides the trophies there's nothing they did which was worth a damn (ie 40 bucks) if the PS3 would still be backwardscompatible. And of course, they wouldn't release these HD collections if B/C would still exists.

BC and PS2 both still exist. don't buy and move on if you're not interested.

YianGaruga · (09-11-2010, 07:32 AM)

I will be so sad if this collection never comes out.
The teasing has just been too much. :(

akachan ningen · (09-11-2010, 07:32 AM)

Originally Posted by Novella:

This makes me uncomfortable.

Let's just go ahead and get some guy to repaint the "Mona Lisa" and hang it in the museum.

SolidSnakex · (09-11-2010, 07:34 AM)

Originally Posted by vodka-bull:

I've never heard of slowdown issues with God of War and besides the trophies there's nothing they did which was worth a damn (ie 40 bucks) if the PS3 would still be backwardscompatible. And of course, they wouldn't release these HD collections if B/C would still exists.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/go...ection-article

You'll find videos there showing you the framerates for the first two GoW games compared to the HD Collections. You also have to take into account that those original games had a lot of screen tearing while the HD Collections have none.

Animator · (09-11-2010, 07:34 AM)

Originally Posted by Novella:

This makes me uncomfortable.

Let's just go ahead and get some guy to repaint the "Mona Lisa" and hang it in the museum.

This has to be one of the top three stupidest posts I have read on the internet.

Chrysalis · (09-11-2010, 07:35 AM)

Originally Posted by SolidSnakex:

They would've still been released. Most people that have PS3's also have or had PS2's. So if they wanted to play those games in the form that they can be played on the PS2 then they would've done that. The PS3 allows you to play them at 60fps, no screen tearing and with a greatly improved resolution. Oh and trophies for those that really care about them.

Nah...with people switching to HD tv's, ps2 games look like crap without upscaling. So for plenty of people, that isn't an option. Let's try an analogy:

Re-buying a game in HD is like re-buying your movie collection in blu-ray: it's something you only really care about if you A) have a decent pile of cash and B) are at least a mild technophile. But if your dvd player is suddenly no longer compatible with your tv, you've got a much greater need to rebuy your dvd's.

The GAF audience is generally well-to-do enough that we don't mirror the gaming population at large. Buying an old game that you already have for small/moderate visual upgrades isn't something the larger gaming public does.

Originally Posted by Augemitbutter:

BC and PS2 both still exist. don't buy and move on if you're not interested.

??? Really? Outside of the wilderness that is eBay?

Boney · (09-11-2010, 07:36 AM)

Jeez lay easy on the guy, maybe he got it mixed up with remake or whatever...

BobTheFork · (09-11-2010, 07:36 AM)

Shit, if the Mona Lisa dropped as many frames as SOTC I'd re-render her ass too.

YianGaruga · (09-11-2010, 07:36 AM)

Originally Posted by vodka-bull:

I've never heard of slowdown issues with God of War and besides the trophies there's nothing they did which was worth a damn (ie 40 bucks) if the PS3 would still be backwardscompatible. And of course, they wouldn't release these HD collections if B/C would still exists.

I don't know how powerful the upscaling of BC PS3 is, but the graphics of the GoW collection were pretty amazing for what are PS2 games. With this and trophies the HD collections have a good reason to exist.