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DY_nasty · (10-10-2010, 03:45 AM)

Originally Posted by Imm0rt4l:

I'm guessing you didn't read the awesome thread that was closed.

I've been digging through that mess for 2 hours now... shit is gone :lol . I can barely make sense of anything in there.

Originally Posted by fuzzyreactor:

no, blow me

I bet you feel like a real boy now.

Manmademan · 03:56 AM

Originally Posted by lightless_shado:

Hush, we do not speak of those days. Spindashing's mournful groans of agony shall deafen us all.

Which reminds me, where do many Black mothers get the inspiration to name their children? my mother always tells me that most american names these days have no meaning, but especially those that young black people give their children.

I find it pretty ironic that while we've moved past the days of this, we have people trying to give their children African sounding names without doing enough research.

Pick up "freakonomics". there's an entire chapter based solely around why Parents seem to give kids names that are either nonsensical or detrimental in the long run.

there's an excerpt of it http://www.slate.com/id/2116449/

the short story is that lower income and lower educated parents of all races have a habit of making extremely poor name choices- black parents in particular choose "unique" names out of a sense of solidarity with the community and/or pride in one's roots.

Quote:

The California data establish just how dissimilarly black and white parents have named their children over the past 25 years or so—a remnant, it seems, of the Black Power movement. The typical baby girl born in a black neighborhood in 1970 was given a name that was twice as common among blacks than whites. By 1980, she received a name that was 20 times more common among blacks. (Boys' names moved in the same direction but less aggressively—likely because parents of all races are less adventurous with boys' names than girls'.) Today, more than 40 percent of the black girls born in California in a given year receive a name that not one of the roughly 100,000 baby white girls received that year. Even more remarkably, nearly 30 percent of the black girls are given a name that is unique among every baby, white and black, born that year in California. (There were also 228 babies named Unique during the 1990s alone, and one each of Uneek, Uneque, and Uneqqee; virtually all of them were black.)

Delio · (10-10-2010, 03:52 AM)

- Where you live Fort worth,Tx
- Your cultural heritage, lineage and genealogy Mississippi
- Your Age 24
- Favorite musical genre Rock
- Your profession/major/career interest Writer
- Your religious affiliation Agnosic
- Hobbies Writing,Video games

Himuro · (10-10-2010, 03:53 AM)

I'm sorry this thread isn't as awesome as the last one. I dunno what to do with it aside from bring up different topics in black culture.

Manmademan · (10-10-2010, 03:59 AM)

Originally Posted by Himuro:

I'm sorry this thread isn't as awesome as the last one. I dunno what to do with it aside from bring up different topics in black culture.

since "megathreads" are banned, maybe a thread about one specific topic relating to black culture every couple days or so directed at black-gaf is more workable. This one is fine since getting to know who black gaf IS on this board is always nice, next time a "Black-Age: why are we going anywhere but Popeye's for Chicken" might generate more specific responses and hilarious gifs

lightless_shado · (10-10-2010, 04:03 AM)

Originally Posted by Himuro:

I'm sorry this thread isn't as awesome as the last one. I dunno what to do with it aside from bring up different topics in black culture.

Hey man its an alright thread. It will come into its own. There are a lot of things we can talk about. I'll keep posting in here as long as there are people bringing up interesting topics.

Originally Posted by Manmademan:

Pick up "freakonomics". there's an entire chapter based solely around why Parents seem to give kids names that are either nonsensical or detrimental in the long run.

there's an excerpt of it http://www.slate.com/id/2116449/

the short story is that lower income and lower educated parents of all races have a habit of making extremely poor name choices- black parents in particular choose "unique" names out of a sense of solidarity with the community and/or pride in one's roots.

You know it seems to me that the last people to be giving their children such names would be the poor. I mean what is an employer going to think when he or she sees that name? I think its especially problematic for black people because one could immediately guess that a person is black based on their name and a possibly racist employer will just skip the person altogether. Latishiqua could actually be someone with a very strong work ethic and high aspirations.

Salazar · (10-10-2010, 04:04 AM)

Originally Posted by Himuro:

I'm sorry this thread isn't as awesome as the last one. I dunno what to do with it aside from bring up different topics in black culture.

Does Johnny Cash get a black pass ?

DY_nasty · (10-10-2010, 04:05 AM)

Originally Posted by Salazar:

Does Johnny Cash get a black pass ?

It'd be a crime if Marky Mark had one and Cash didn't

Manmademan · (10-10-2010, 04:07 AM)

Originally Posted by lightless_shado:

Hey man its an alright thread. It will come into its own. There are a lot of things we can talk about. I'll keep posting in here as long as there are people bringing up interesting topics.

You know it seems to me that the last people to be giving their children such names would be the poor. I mean what is an employer going to think when he or she sees that name? I think its especially problematic for black people because one could immediately guess that a person is black based on their name and a possibly racist employer will just skip the person altogether. Latishiqua could actually be someone with a very strong work ethic and high aspirations.

There's a very well known bias towards employers to select white names over "black" names, even when the resumes in question are exactly identical. the book goes into this- so I don't want to repeat the whole thing here.

surprisingly though, a name itself doesn't really have much effect on whether or not a given person is successful- success is far, far more dependent on the economic circumstances one is born into. The name just tends to be an indicator of this.

again, the poor name choices thing isn't limited to blacks by any means: I found the names poor white parents were giving to kids equally hilarious, but for different reasons.

i_am_ben · (10-10-2010, 04:09 AM)

gaygaf feels your pain negrogaf :(

it's just not the same.

Himuro · (10-10-2010, 04:12 AM)

Originally Posted by Salazar:

Does Johnny Cash get a black pass ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9IfHDi-2EA

Listen to that voice.

Yes.

Teena Marie has the ultimate black pass though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYVWoi72Ow4

spindashing · (10-10-2010, 04:13 AM)

Originally Posted by lightless_shado:

Spindashing's mournful groans of agony shall deafen us all.

Wtf guys. Keep my name out'cha mouths. I've been good. :lol

BlackGAF, NegroGAF, whatever you call yourself these days. Do any of you or have any of you celebrate/celebrated Kwanzaa? I remember last year an acquaintance ignorantly telling me "Happy Kwanzaa."

"No, I celebrate Christmas you dick" was all I thought of. I simply smiled and said, "No, I celebrate Christmas." -- to which he smiled awkwardly at.

ryutaro's mama · (10-10-2010, 04:14 AM)

Originally Posted by DY_nasty:

It'd be a crime if Marky Mark had one and Cash didn't

When did Marky Mark get a "Black Pass" in your mind?

I hope wasn't for that shitty ass "Good Vibrations" song.

If you're giving out hypothetical passes, it goes like this:

Paul Wall gets a pass.

Eminem gets a pass.

Robin Thicke gets a pass.

Daryl Hall gets a pass.

Michael McDonald gets a pass.

Marky Mark doesn't get a pass.

Himuro · (10-10-2010, 04:15 AM)

Kwanzaa is the dumbest holiday created.

ryutaro's mama · (10-10-2010, 04:16 AM)

Originally Posted by spindashing:

Wtf guys. Keep my name out'cha mouths. I've been good. :lol

BlackGAF, NegroGAF, whatever you call yourself these days. Do any of you or have any of you celebrate/celebrated Kwanzaa? I remember last year an acquaintance ignorantly telling me "Happy Kwanzaa."

"No, I celebrate Christmas you dick" was all I thought of. I simply smiled and said, "No, I celebrate Christmas." -- to which he smiled awkwardly at.

I don't know a single Black person that celebrates Kwanzaa.

Not a single one.

Himuro · (10-10-2010, 04:17 AM)

Ladies in Jack and Jill tried to get our family to celebrate Kwanzaa as a kid.

Haha Jack and Jill. Any of you guys in that as a young'n? Or Top Teens?

soundscream · (10-10-2010, 04:18 AM)

Originally Posted by Himuro:

Kwanzaa is the dumbest holiday created.

.

ryutaro's mama · (10-10-2010, 04:20 AM)

Since we're going over passes, does Darius Rucker have a White pass?

What about Oprah?

spindashing · (10-10-2010, 04:20 AM)

Originally Posted by ryutaro's mama:

When did Marky Mark get a "Black Pass" in your mind?

I hope wasn't for that shitty ass "Good Vibrations" song.

If you're giving out hypothetical passes, it goes like this:

Paul Wall gets a pass.

Eminem gets a pass.

Robin Thicke gets a pass.

Daryl Hall gets a pass.

Michael McDonald gets a pass.

Marky Mark doesn't get a pass.

How about...

Rick Astley?

And good @ Kwanzaa. I did not know a single soul who celebrated that holiday. I was almost convinced that it was created by the media or something. Shit is ridiculous that barely anyone celebrated it when sitcoms sort of glorified it.

Manmademan · (10-10-2010, 04:20 AM)

Originally Posted by ryutaro's mama:

I don't know a single Black person that celebrates Kwanzaa.

Not a single one.

my parents did back in the 80s. there may still be some kwanzaa stuff hanging out somewhere, but if there is I haven't seen it in decades :lol

lightless_shado · (10-10-2010, 04:22 AM)

Originally Posted by spindashing:

Wtf guys. Keep my name out'cha mouths. I've been good. :lol

BlackGAF, NegroGAF, whatever you call yourself these days. Do any of you or have any of you celebrate/celebrated Kwanzaa? I remember last year an acquaintance ignorantly telling me "Happy Kwanzaa."

"No, I celebrate Christmas you dick" was all I thought of. I simply smiled and said, "No, I celebrate Christmas." -- to which he smiled awkwardly at.

You misunderstand. You probably loved Negro-age more than anyone.

Does Rick Astley get a pass? I remember reading something about when he was being discovered that the head of the label that signed him didn't think he was white until he saw him.

And any biologists in here? one thing that puzzles me is how we are the only people on earth with hair that is curled so tightly. Other people share our supposedly distinct traits(nose, and lips and hell even some people who are not black have skin tones that approach the average black person's tone) but nobody seems to share our hair. Why is that?

I think I could spend all day asking about how we can look so different but I don't know if that would be in keeping with our discussion parameters. I saw an episode of Maury where a man came on the show and was certain that a woman who claimed he was the father of her two children was wrong. Why? because they looked completely hispanic. The woman was hispanic, but the kids did not look black at all. Turned out they were in fact his children.

EDIT: Someone already beat me to rick astley:lol

also I laugh at Kwanzaa

Salazar · (10-10-2010, 04:22 AM)

Originally Posted by ryutaro's mama:

Since we're going over passes, does Darius Rucker have a White pass?

What about Oprah?

No and maybe.

Himuro · (10-10-2010, 04:23 AM)

Originally Posted by ryutaro's mama:

Since we're going over passes, does Darius Rucker have a White pass?

What about Oprah?

Let's not play this game. :lol

Manmademan · (10-10-2010, 04:23 AM)

Originally Posted by Salazar:

No and maybe.

Wayne Brady totally does.

ryutaro's mama · (10-10-2010, 04:23 AM)

Originally Posted by Himuro:

Teena Marie has the ultimate black pass though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYVWoi72Ow4

How about Fergie Ferge?

eternaLightness · (10-10-2010, 04:23 AM)

We must spread Umoja my brothers and sisters.

Himuro · (10-10-2010, 04:24 AM)

Wayne Brady doesn't get one after the Chappelle skit.

lightless_shado · (10-10-2010, 04:24 AM)

Originally Posted by Manmademan:

Wayne Brady totally does.

We all know why he would.

EDIT:

Originally Posted by Himuro:

Wayne Brady doesn't get one after the Chappelle skit.

Almost forgot about that:lol

DY_nasty · (10-10-2010, 04:27 AM)

Originally Posted by ryutaro's mama:

I don't know a single Black person that celebrates Kwanzaa.

Not a single one.

Marky Mark was a pioneer!

Paul Wall doesn't get one.

I remember they tried to throw a mini-Kwanzaa celebration at my college... we lol'd

ryutaro's mama · (10-10-2010, 04:28 AM)

Originally Posted by DY_nasty:

Marky Mark was a pioneer!

Paul Wall doesn't get one.

Is this Bizarro-GAF?

lightless_shado · (10-10-2010, 04:28 AM)

Originally Posted by DY_nasty:

Marky Mark was a pioneer!

Paul Wall doesn't get one.

I remember they tried to throw a mini-Kwanzaa celebration at my college... we lol'd

Disagree.

While we're at it, Justin Timberlake gets one too.

spindashing · (10-10-2010, 04:28 AM)

Originally Posted by lightless_shado:

You misunderstand. You probably loved Negro-age more than anyone.

I have not been a member of GAF long, but yeah, it was honestly my favorite thread ever.

But I digress. What's scary is that I did not know Rick Astley was white until the Rickroll fad came into fruition. I even knew Michael McDonald was white. Shit.. :lol

I recall you guys talking about black rock and I didn't see Living Colour being mentioned. Shame on y'all.

I'm looking to get into more Funk. Any other suggestions than Funkadelic/Parliament/Parliament-Funkadelic? :D

dr_octagon · (10-10-2010, 04:28 AM)

Just wondering if you guys think black culture is represented fairly in the media (in your respective countries). What would you like to see more of?

People like Richard Pryor / Dave Chappelle are funny and they draw on their culture rather than just playing a black stereotype. I mention comedy cos that can break down barriers in terms of learning about a culture.

Manmademan · (10-10-2010, 04:30 AM)

Originally Posted by Himuro:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9IfHDi-2EA

Listen to that voice.

Yes.

Teena Marie has the ultimate black pass though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYVWoi72Ow4

Holy shit @ Teena Marie. I'm in love here :lol :lol :lol

DY_nasty · (10-10-2010, 04:32 AM)

This all reminds me of how Jennifer Lopez just knew she was down until she caught that epic backfire :lol

ryutaro's mama · (10-10-2010, 04:32 AM)

Originally Posted by Manmademan:

Holy shit @ Teena Marie. I'm in love here :lol :lol :lol

Thank Rick James.

ryutaro's mama · (10-10-2010, 04:33 AM)

Originally Posted by DY_nasty:

This all reminds me of how Jennifer Lopez just knew she was down until she caught that epic backfire :lol

Jennifer Lopez hasn't been attractive since In Living Color.

Fact.

Himuro · (10-10-2010, 04:36 AM)

Originally Posted by Manmademan:

Holy shit @ Teena Marie. I'm in love here :lol :lol :lol

You're kidding me. Never heard of Teena Marie?!?!?! Teena Marie is a total sistah. She has so much soul.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZg46VqEk1s

lightless_shado · (10-10-2010, 04:41 AM)

Originally Posted by dr_octagon:

Just wondering if you guys think black culture is represented fairly in the media (in your respective countries). What would you like to see more of?

People like Richard Pryor / Dave Chappelle are funny and they draw on their culture rather than just playing a black stereotype. I mention comedy cos that can break down barriers in terms of learning about a culture.

In Canada its pretty hard for us I would say. Because Canada is mostly exposed to American culture, the same black stereotypes carry over here so people expect you to be like the blacks they see on the TV and they're shocked when you aren't, but this is usually in places where there is no strong black presence.

I also feel that there is really a lack of some serious black actors. I can only think of a few that can do serious roles. I can't really think of someone who is on the same footing as the likes of Denzel washington or Sidney poiter except for maybe blair underwood. Will smith proved he can do drama in 2 films but I think he's going to be forced into that Action hero mold.

With regards to TV comedy I can't believe we've gone from this:

to just nothing else basically.

Manmademan · (10-10-2010, 04:43 AM)

Originally Posted by Himuro:

You're kidding me. Never heard of Teena Marie?!?!?! Teena Marie is a total sistah. She has so much soul.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZg46VqEk1s

Its one of those rick astley type of things where I've heard the song, but never saw the performer.

no idea she played that guitar, looked like that, or moved like that. craziness.

Himuro · (10-10-2010, 04:45 AM)

Okay, I've been busy today. Gonna go through the whole thread and kick this up a notch.

First, I want to say why I did the whole survey thing. I just wanted to know where black gaf hails from, how we live our lives, and how diverse we are. I think that's important.

- Where you're from - Houston, Texas
- Where you live - Orlando, Florida
- Your cultural heritage, lineage and genealogy - African, European, Cherokee Indian.
- Do you know your roots? No. The most I know about my roots is that my slave ancestor escaped and came from North Carolina. I don't know what tribe my ancestors came from, what European country or anything that my white blood comes from. Sometimes it makes me feel down, but for the most part I don't mine it and look to the future. Still, it sucks when people say something like,"I am of Italian descent and they have a particular history, whereas my history is...well, nothing but misery and a fight for rights. That makes me proud, though.
- Your Age - 24
- Favorite musical genre - Rock and Electro. Tied.
- Your profession/major/career interest - [/b]I work as a film editor/storyboarder at a video production firm.[/b]
- Your religious affiliation - Atheist
- Hobbies - Reading, Music, Drawing, Movies, the arts, History, Sports

TGateKeeper · (10-10-2010, 04:46 AM)

I posted this in the other thread.

One of the best if not the best documentary i've seen on anicent african history. Dr Gus Casely-Hayford did a great job on narrating.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...pf_rd_i=507846

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp6P_hBnF1s&feature=fvw

Anyone else saw this documentary before?

Himuro · (10-10-2010, 04:47 AM)

Originally Posted by TGateKeeper:

I posted this in the other thread.

One of the best if not the best documentary i've seen on anicent african history. Dr Gus Casely-Hayford did a great job on narrating.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...pf_rd_i=507846

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp6P_hBnF1s&feature=fvw

This is one of those amazing posts we had lost in the shuffle.

We need Veidt and other native Africans to come in and tell us about Africa!

Manmademan · 05:01 AM

Originally Posted by lightless_shado:

In Canada its pretty hard for us I would say. Because Canada is mostly exposed to American culture, the same black stereotypes carry over here so people expect you to be like the blacks they see on the TV and they're shocked when you aren't, but this is usually in places where there is no strong black presence.

I also feel that there is really a lack of some serious black actors. I can only think of a few that can do serious roles. I can't really think of someone who is on the same footing as the likes of Denzel washington or Sidney poiter except for maybe blair underwood. Will smith proved he can do drama in 2 films but I think he's going to be forced into that Action hero mold.

With regards to TV comedy I can't believe we've gone from this:

to just nothing else basically.

eh? you need to watch more TV. there have been plenty of good black sitcom performers and shows since then.

besides the OBVIOUS (A different World)

there was also (Girlfriends)

and (Living Single)

and (Roc)

and (everybody hates chris)

and, er...(obvious)

all of the above ran for multiple seasons. I can probably name another dozen that only got one or two. Roc you may not know (especially if you're from canada) but it's notable for being not only a live fox sitcom that got more than one season, but the last couple of seasons it was performed live in front of a studio audience, with no retakes.

ryutaro's mama · (10-10-2010, 04:56 AM)

Originally Posted by Manmademan:

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Man, I had it baaaad for Cree Summer (Freddie)

Manmademan · (10-10-2010, 04:57 AM)

Originally Posted by ryutaro's mama:

Man, I had it baaaad for Cree Summer (Freddie)

she was cute. she went on to do a lot of voiceover work in kids shows (tiny toons, animaniacs) and it really messed with me

Himuro · (10-10-2010, 04:58 AM)

Everybody Hates Chris is so under appreciated.

Also, people fail ONCE AGAIN for not posting Dwayne's dope glasses.

eternaLightness · (10-10-2010, 05:00 AM)

I was just gonna say the same thing about Everybody Hates Chris. Such a genius show. I just posted 2 cents worth of black culture.

Manmademan · (10-10-2010, 05:02 AM)

Originally Posted by Himuro:

Everybody Hates Chris is so under appreciated.

Also, people fail ONCE AGAIN for not posting Dwayne's dope glasses.

I actually had a pair of these. This did not help in convincing people that I was NOT a nerd.

"hey, how would you like to get with a brotha who got a perfect score on his math SAT's?" :lol

Himuro · (10-10-2010, 05:03 AM)

Dwayne was dope.

A Different World was interesting.

"Mommy, what's a black university?"