[Dai101]

Ellen has balls, no question.

[Neuromancer]

5/5 stars

Remarkable!

[JaggedSac]

i think you'd struggle to do that too though. you'd have to scale your dot cloud based on different body types in different ways. some people have really long or short legs for their height, for example.

Well poop on you sir :D

[skyfinch]

I'm going to try my luck on launch day. Never had any problems with hardware/software where I live. Never had to preorder.



Ellen should have played Kinectnimals and rubbed the pussy.

[RETROEX]

This sonic riders title looks fun to play

[Sho_Nuff82]

don't confuse the IR camera with the VGA camera. they do fundamentally different things. i am not aware of any Eye Toy games that do what Your Shape does. that Gamespot video has a really good demo of your shape. pay attention at the end when the camera pans up and it appears the person playing the game is a 3d object. i think it's mapping the depth info onto the vga feed and making a kind of 3D shell that it applies lighting and reflection and other stuff too. eitherway, it looks like a 3D shape rather than a flat 2D shape (as you see in the Konami dancing game where the people look like cutouts).

It's more obvious during the block-punching minigame. One of the editors starts off not fully extending his arm, and not punching across his body, and Kinect could tell both. The "avatar" in that game is a full 3D representation of the player.

[CreativeWriter]

Would love for the thread title to be: "In Soviet Russia, controller is YOU!"

I'm surprised this is coming out so soon. I haven't seen many ads for it yet. Perhaps they're blanketing network TV (I watch almost exclusively cable channels). Still, I thought this was getting a huge marketing push? Are they saving most of that for the holiday rush?

[cakefoo]

http://au.gamespot.com/shows/now-pla...kinect20101026 See the lag for yourself

To gauge latency you need offscreen video of the TV and you need to have the physical player in that exact same shot. In a greenscreen setup like they had on Gamespot, there are two separate feeds that are being synced manually, and you can't know what the sync points were. I've explained this already.

Cue more "lolz what r u talkin about" posts again.

[Jtyettis]

on Ellen http://ellen.warnerbros.com/microsoft-kinect

Haha, so good.

[duk]

this is gonna sell craploads cuz of the novelty alone

[see5harp]

Waiting patiently for Kinect to bomb and MS leaves the gaming business. LOL

[BenjaminBirdie]

Would love for the thread title to be: "In Soviet Russia, controller is YOU!" I'm surprised this is coming out so soon. I haven't seen many ads for it yet. Perhaps they're blanketing network TV (I watch almost exclusively cable channels). Still, I thought this was getting a huge marketing push? Are they saving most of that for the holiday rush?

I saw one during Survivor. Can't believe they're going for such a mainstream push.

[Brannon]

I still don't get it. Kinect requires decent amounts of room, and the E3 featured lots of Asians, but they, well at least the Japanese, don't have lots of room. Am I right in thinking that they aren't going to promote the Kinect in Japan that much?

[plagiarize]

To gauge latency you need offscreen video of the TV and you need to have the physical player in that exact same shot. In a greenscreen setup like they had on Gamespot, there are two separate feeds that are being synced manually, and you can't know what the sync points were. I've explained this already. Cue more "lolz what r u talkin about" posts again.

you don't need any of that to see that the games are controllable as indeed the people playing them say they are. however 'bad' the lag is, the games work.

[Alx]

I still don't get it. Kinect requires decent amounts of room, and the E3 featured lots of Asians, but they, well at least the Japanese, don't have lots of room. Am I right in thinking that they aren't going to promote the Kinect in Japan that much?

Since we're piling clichés on top of each other, you could add that asians are smaller, hence they can play closer to the camera. Problem solved :D

(no seriously, I don't even understand this joke about asians at E3... there were all kinds of people demonstrating, from what I remember)

[kashwashwa]

Waiting patiently for Kinect to bomb and MS gets out of the gaming business. LOL

LOL, totally d00d.

[Kibbles]

on Ellen http://ellen.warnerbros.com/microsoft-kinect

Ellen rocked it, but proves she is inferior to Oprah by not giving it to her audience.

[plagiarize]

so, thanks to microsoft expert zone i can get Joy Ride for $20... i think i'm game at that price.

[skyfinch]

Ellen rocked it, but proves she is inferior to Oprah by not giving it to her audience.

I would have loved to have seen Oprah dance to some gaga, with that big juicy booty of hers.

[Snuggler]

I saw one during Survivor. Can't believe they're going for such a mainstream push.

Whoa, like, did they have it on the island? Microsoft IS really pushing this thing.

[BenjaminBirdie]

Whoa, like, did they have it on the island? Microsoft IS really pushing this thing.

"La Flor, I got no controller for ya, pack your stuff up, go back to camp."

[Brannon]

At any rate, I didn't think much of the PS3 for a long while. Then Demon's Souls happened and that changed right quick. I'm sure that magic'll happen for me with Kinect, but then again, From Software is rumored to have made a deal with the devil to make Demon's Souls.

[Graphics Horse]

I still don't get it. Kinect requires decent amounts of room, and the E3 featured lots of Asians, but they, well at least the Japanese, don't have lots of room. Am I right in thinking that they aren't going to promote the Kinect in Japan that much?

What the fuck :lol

[Brannon]

What the fuck :lol

Now hold on, I made that comment a long time ago. Things have changed since then.

[see5harp]

At any rate, I didn't think much of the PS3 for a long while. Then Demon's Souls happened and that changed right quick. I'm sure that magic'll happen for me with Kinect, but then again, From Software is rumored to have made a deal with the devil to make Demon's Souls.

Asian people and Demon's Souls...I don't understand.

[jergrah]

Removed.

[Atomski]

I still don't get it. Kinect requires decent amounts of room, and the E3 featured lots of Asians, but they, well at least the Japanese, don't have lots of room. Am I right in thinking that they aren't going to promote the Kinect in Japan that much?

It was pretty damn popular at TGS this year.

[BenjaminBirdie]

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[Tom Penny]

It's crazy that this IS the future of gaming. Didn't Nintendo say they didn't want to use this type of technology instead of Wii? I wonder if they will be regretting that.

[TheOddOne]

Microsoft posts $16.2 billion in revenue for Q1 FY11

Microsoft today announced record first-quarter revenue of $16.2 billion for the quarter ending September 30, which is 25 percent increase over the same period in 2009. Net income came in at $5.4 billion which is an increase of 59 percent over 2009, with the Entertainment and Devices Division (includes Xbox 360) reporting revenue of $1.8 million for the quarter compared to $1.4 million the year prior. During the quarter, Microsoft saw year-over-year growth across all business segments, with Xbox 360 consoles sales up 38 percent and outselling “every console in the US for each of the past four months“. “This was an exceptional quarter, combining solid enterprise growth and continued strong consumer demand for Office 2010, Windows 7, and Xbox 360 consoles and games,” said Peter Klein, chief financial officer at Microsoft. “Our ability to grow revenue while continuing to control costs allowed us to deliver another quarter of year-over-year margin expansion.” A live analysis with shareholders will be broadcast at 5:30pm EST today, so we’ll be listening for anything you might be interested in.

[CitizenCope]

Gamestop video is pretty impressive. Dance Central will be an absolute riot with friends especially the freestyle part and if marketed properly could go on to sell a lot of units. Was also surprised by the Fitness evolved game and how you cant get away by half assing the exercises like you can in Wii fit. Some of the exercises look pretty good too. Overall came away surprised at how well the majority of the games tracked the movement.

I had zero interset until I saw that video. Not that there was anything mind blowing but it does track much better than I thought.
Now that I want it I'm reminded I don't have a floor in my 100 year old house that won't shake the shit out of the camera in many of the games. =(

[Mrcapcom]

I told myself I wasn't going to look at anything till closer to release and that gamespot video really looks good. I have 3 kids 3/5/6 and I'm sure they will love this thing. I want to get the fitness and the kinect animals the car one looks nice too. Just pre ordered my slim/kinect bundle hope I won't end up returning it....:D

[PSGames]

It's crazy that this IS the future of gaming. Didn't Nintendo say they didn't want to use this type of technology instead of Wii? I wonder if they will be regretting that.

3DV (Not PrimeSense which is what Kinect is based off) pitched this technology to them after the Wii launched. Nintendo said it was cool but that A. It was too expensive. B. Too processor intensive. C. They had concerns about lag.

Microsoft at least solved 2 of those problems. Some lag is still present of course but I don't think it will effect sales of the device.

[plagiarize]

Microsoft posts $16.2 billion in revenue for Q1 FY11

so they made $5.4 billion.

investing .5 billion back into marketing kinect is something that they can clearly afford to do. they don't even need to make that marketing budget back, because they can afford to completely write off the cost of it.

does kinect r+d come under the Entertainment and Devices area? cause if so they've already paid for the r+d of the device.

in other words, for anyone that doesn't get it, microsoft can afford for kinect to be a complete disaster and move no units at all.

think about that for a moment. the research has been paid for. the marketing is easily covered by their other income.

whether kinect is a success or not, i'm actually kind of glad that a company that can afford to take a risk like this has. sure, they can afford to fall on their face here, but i'd much rather then reinvest some of their billions into trying to make new stuff and really getting behind it than just putting it all in the bank.

[TheOddOne]

so they made $5.4 billion. investing .5 billion back into marketing kinect is something that they can clearly afford to do. they don't even need to make that marketing budget back, because they can afford to completely write off the cost of it. does kinect r+d come under the Entertainment and Devices area? cause if so they've already paid for the r+d of the device. in other words, for anyone that doesn't get it, microsoft can afford for kinect to be a complete disaster and move no units at all. think about that for a moment. the research has been paid for. the marketing is easily covered by their other income. whether kinect is a success or not, i'm actually kind of glad that a company that can afford to take a risk like this has. sure, they can afford to fall on their face here, but i'd much rather then reinvest some of their billions into trying to make new stuff and really getting behind it than just putting it all in the bank.

Crazy indeed.

[crazygambit]

Have they found a solution for those of us with 256MB Arcades? Since NXE takes up 128MB and I understand this requires something like 175MB. I'm sure as hell not interested in this yet, but I'm sure there are people out there in my same situation that also don't feel like paying for an overpriced HDD.

[Raide]

Have they found a solution for those of us with 256MB Arcades? Since NXE takes up 128MB and I understand this requires something like 175MB. I'm sure as hell not interested in this yet, but I'm sure there are people out there in my same situation that also don't feel like paying for an overpriced HDD.

USB stick?

[Megadragon15]

Have they found a solution for those of us with 256MB Arcades? Since NXE takes up 128MB and I understand this requires something like 175MB. I'm sure as hell not interested in this yet, but I'm sure there are people out there in my same situation that also don't feel like paying for an overpriced HDD.

Use a USB flash drive?

[plagiarize]

Have they found a solution for those of us with 256MB Arcades? Since NXE takes up 128MB and I understand this requires something like 175MB. I'm sure as hell not interested in this yet, but I'm sure there are people out there in my same situation that also don't feel like paying for an overpriced HDD.

190 MB is apparently the requirement for kinect, so yeah, people with the 256 mb arcade will need more memory. they recommend in the sales info that you recommend the usb stick or a 60 gig starter pack, for what it's worth.

[Boney]

Sooo can you dress yourself in other clothes similar like they showed at E3?

[godhandiscen]

Sooo can you dress yourself in other clothes similar like they showed at E3?

Yes, can I use my Master Chief avatar armor in these avatar games?

[Boney]

Yes, can I use my Master Chief avatar armor in these avatar games?

Nono, not avatars, I mean real people, like those tweens stuff.

[Mrbob]

Microsoft posts $16.2 billion in revenue for Q1 FY11

You forgot to add one part:

Net income came in at $5.4 billion which is an increase of 59 percent over 2009, with the Entertainment and Devices Division (includes Xbox 360) reporting revenue of $1.8 million for the quarter compared to $1.4 million the year prior. Profit for the division was $382 million for the period, which is up 46 percent yoy.

These profits are mainly being generated coming from Windows 7 software to businesses. The entertainment division is tiny by comparison.

What plagerize says is correct, but MS isn't in business to be a charity. They want this division to be a monster someday and perhaps even replace their core business. While MS could eat all the Kinect losses in doing so the entertainment division will probably go under. They can't have that big of a loss anymore and have their shareholders be happy with a successor.

The huge female push with Ellen and Oprah is interesting (and smart). Soon we'll see if it pays off. I'm wondering if MS should just try to re-brand the Xbox division to Kinect. How many moms want to say, "Xbox on!" I can see them saying "Kinect on!", though. Kinect is a much more appealing word to a female than Xbox.

[godhandiscen]

Nono, not avatars, I mean real people, like those tweens stuff.

Ok. I sitll want to know if I can use my avatar accessories in the games.

[Atomski]

Nono, not avatars, I mean real people, like those tweens stuff.

Nah or atleast not yet. I highly doubt it ever will though. They really went nuts with that first E3 announcement.

[Raide]

The huge female push with Ellen and Oprah is interesting (and smart). Soon we'll see if it pays off. I'm wondering if MS should just try to re-brand the Xbox division to Kinect. How many moms want to say, "Xbox on!" I can see them saying "Kinect on!", though. Kinect is a much more appealing word to a female than Xbox.

They just need to add the voice commands so it notices "Xbox on" and "Kinect on"

[A.R.K]

on Ellen http://ellen.warnerbros.com/microsoft-kinect

and this is how you market your shit to the casuals Sony ... Kinect will sell millions for sure no matter what reviews say because casuals don't read IGN and et. al. but they do watch Oprah and et. al. Bravo MS. Learn Sony learn!

[plagiarize]

Kinect is a much more appealing word to a female than Xbox.

so we can just throw out generalisations like this without backing them up with anything?

the entertainment division made a profit. if kinect doesn't sell anything it'll still likely make a profit. no reason to take them under because MS as a whole thought it was worth the .5 billion to advertise Kinect.

entertainment won't have made that decision.

and you're forgetting that the r+d done on kinect is something that can and will be used in the PC sector.

no way this takes down the profitable entertainment division.

[PopcornMegaphone]

Ugh, sales-age.

[plagiarize]

so yeah, i've ordered joy ride. hopefully $20 is worth it. i'll gladly let everyone know if feel ripped off or not next week.

i'm going to go practice holding out my arms. bbl.