[ghst]

so this is a redux from the marketplace thread, but i thought i'd fire up a new one just to celebrate the occasion.

so pt.1

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*** I CAN NO LONGER PLAY GFWL GAMES ONLINE ON MY COMPUTER ***



so i boot up street fighter 4, get the "update required" message, wait for the bar to gradually fill up. game closes, some distributable install flashes up, then nothing.

huh.

so i try it again, repeat the process. nothing. still huh.

try it with dirt 2, process is the same, results are the same. HUH.

try restarting my computer and opening dirt 2. same goes. HUH.

so i try opening the gfwl software directly, get this message:



and so i foolishli click "help" and engage in a merry chase around microsoft's hope vortex until i'm ultimately routed to check up local UK server issues and arrive at this page....



OOPS!


please, i'm pleading with you. for the love of all that is good on this earth, will someone end this vile pestilence once and for all.

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at this point, i was informed that i had sign a license agreement on xbox.com for gfwl to y'know, work. something that was not mentioned anywhere at any point throughout the process. i did so, to no avail.

onward to pt. 2:

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update:

i decided to try and download the gfwl client directly from microsoft, the install went fine until i was prompted that i'd need to download the latest sign in assistant. it sent me to a page, i downloaded that piece of software - attempted to install and got this message:



now, instead of being caught in an infinite update loop, all my gfwl games have simply given up and crash on launch, giving this error message or equivalent:



i don't know if i blame them.

sf4, dirt 2, dow2, resi 5. all are now too embarrassed with their affliction to even bother running. gfwl has long been irredeemable, but this level of incompetence is astounding even me. because their bullshit update software choked on its own bile, gfwl is locking me out from my own games.

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i don't know if i even want to recover these games anymore. sure i enjoy playing them, but leaving them dead seems to be the only way to deny myself being repeatedly jammed in the eye by the weeping, diseased totem of incompetence that is gfwl.

[eznark]

Gonna fire up DoW right now. If it doesn't work so fucking help me......I'll probably just post in this thread about it

[ClovingWestbrook]

Waiting for brain_stew

[Cat in the Hat]

brain_stew incoming

GFWL sucks dick

[luka]

I can't run Halo 2 under windows 7, but apparently that's been a known GFWL incompatibility issue for months. They just never bothered fixing it.

[Cat in the Hat]

I've can't for the life of me get any GFWL game to work offline. I go on the road alot and all i wanna do is play some damned Red Faction but nooooo. I made a offline account and still only works when it wants to.

[The Technomancer]

What surprises me the most isn't the weird errors but how many hoops you're expected to jump through. I mean its not just a "Steam is awesome" thing, are any other DD services like this?

[Cat in the Hat]

What surprises me the most isn't the weird errors but how many hoops you're expected to jump through. I mean its not just a "Steam is awesome" thing, are any other DD services like this?

I've used just about every DD service at one time and in no way were any of them even close to as clunky or buggy as GFWL.

[1-D_FTW]

Isn't today the big update? I was thinking about doing a quick session of F1, but if it's gonna destroy things, I'll just give a day (not that anything would be patched for weeks anyway).

[TheOGB]

...And I JUST started up SF4

[stryker1138]

I was actually just playing Halo 2 online (don't ask why) and I didn't have any problems updating and logging in.

[TheOGB]

Huh... The update just stopped and the game went on as usual.

[scarybore]

I don't want to install sign-in assistant on my PC at this point in time so I can't test out my GFWL games to see if they work after updating, but I certainly hope this isn't a widespread issue.

I can't run Halo 2 under windows 7, but apparently that's been a known GFWL incompatibility issue for months. They just never bothered fixing it.

I ran it a few weeks ago on Win 7 64bit to test out the MLAA function that my new AMD GPU came with, worked fine for me so does your problem occur under very specific circumstances or something?

[luka]

I ran it a few weeks ago on Win 7 64bit to test out the MLAA function that my new AMD GPU came with, worked fine for me so does your problem occur under very specific circumstances or something?

When I update GFWL I get the message "windows live has failed to initialize" and it just doesn't run. Of course if I don't update I can't play online. The problem is an incompatibility between gfwl 1.0 the game was built with and the new gfwl 3.0. I found a workaround but it's kind of a pain in the ass and H2PC just isn't worth it. Of course there will never be a proper patch because MS is so eager to abandon support for their games.

[kamspy]

You just don't understand Microsoft's tough love.

[Shambles]

But DRM game services are awesome and the way of the future and anyone who disagrees is a moron. Sadly here I am, a meager fool, playing games that don't require internet authentification. I only wish I could run into these sorts of problems.

[Rockman-X]

Heh. Just tried this new "Games for Windows Marketplace" as they call the new GFWL client. It used over 1GB RAM (baaaad memory leak?) and then crashed. :lol

I sure hope Microsoft fixes this.

[FLEABttn]

When I update GFWL I get the message "windows live has failed to initialize" and it just doesn't run. Of course if I don't update I can't play online. The problem is an incompatibility between gfwl 1.0 the game was built with and the new gfwl 3.0. I found a workaround but it's kind of a pain in the ass and H2PC just isn't worth it. Of course there will never be a proper patch because MS is so eager to abandon support for their games.

Halo 2 isn't 7 compatible. I had to use some special launcher to make it run.

Also GFWL sucks ass. Can't take any MS "return to PC glory" seriously so long as they insist on using that piece of shit.

It feels like the entire design was run through like 7 different layers of business managers instead of a team of guys who know what they're doing.

[brain_stew]

I've got no suggestions, sorry.

Simply unacceptable, not been impressed with the recent roll-out at all.

[TheSeks]

I've got no suggestions, sorry. Simply unacceptable, not been impressed with the recent roll-out at all.

OSHI-- Brain_stew not liking GfWL?! Microsoft's revival of the PC market is crumbling...

[XTERC]

GFWL crashed when I started F1 2010, however once I was in the game it logged me into LIVE ok. I bought the game on Steam, I don't care for GFWL at all. I wish we had a choice.

[1-D_FTW]

I updated and it appears to be working. *Phew* Only problem I really had was trying to click Yes on the update box. My screen was flashing like a drunk chick at Marti Gras. Had to alt-enter out of full screen to get it stable. Impressive coding though. Don't see my quad cores all maxing out very often. They basically stayed there the entire installation.

Sarcasm

[Angelus Errare]

INNNN-DEEEE-STRRUUCCCTT-ABBBLE!

GFWL CRASHES ALL AROUND ME

INNNN-DEEEE-STRRUUCCCTT-ABBBLE!

NOTHING'S GONNA MAKE IT WORK

[Arkaerial]

Did the update today, and then went to play Dead Rising 2...what do you know, it crashes now. Uninstalled the game (steam), software, and reinstalled both no good, hurray Microsoft you can fuck up a wet dream.

[water_wendi]

Microsoft really knows how to court the PC gamer.

[Zerokku]

I updated fine, but when I play a game, I get a games for windows live crash message.

And yet I still have access to the client and achievements from within the game.

FFS MS, you can't even get things to crash right. :lol This has been one clusterfuck of an update.

[kadotsu]

I updated fine, but when I play a game, I get a games for windows live crash message. And yet I still have access to the client and achievements from within the game. FFS MS, you can't even get things to crash right. :lol This has been one clusterfuck of an update.

Had the exact same problem. Install the Windows messenger over windows live essentials and reboot. After that, everything went without errors.

[isamu]

this definitely discouraging, as I'm about ti fire up F1 2010.

*nervously clicks on play game*

[duckroll]

This sounds bad. I hope this doesn't affect me when I want to play Dead Rising 2 again in future.

[perryfarrell]

Typical

I've experienced nothing but troubles with this garbage

Thanks for spreading the word. GFWL suxxxxx

[opticalmace]

My experience with GFWL has been frustrating too. I will not be purchasing another product that uses it.

[Polk]

Halo 2 isn't 7 compatible. I had to use some special launcher to make it run.

Halo2 is compatible. GFWL v1 isn't. Probably the same will go with other older games like Shadowrun.

I can't run Halo 2 under windows 7, but apparently that's been a known GFWL incompatibility issue for months. They just never bothered fixing it.

There's fix for that. I can play Halo 2 under Win7-64.

[Nirolak]

Apparently you're not the only one: http://forums.gamesforwindows.com/p/15600/134564.aspx

[I NEED SCISSORS]

Microsoft: "I've abandoned my child!"

[HK-47]

OOPS

[onken]

Urgh, awful. I still can't believe how the ability to save/load your game unless you're signed into an XBL profile is completely glossed over by so many people. Completely unacceptable.

[ArjanN]

It updated just fine for me.

[JaseC]

There's fix for that. I can play Halo 2 under Win7-64.

Luka mentions as much not even 10 posts further.

[PantherAttacks]

This experience sounds familiar - GFWL is the scourge of PC gaming. I groan at the new marketplace dreading a fresh wave of titles infected by it. Hopefully the new Dawn of War stays safe!

[Fredescu]

I still can't believe how the ability to save/load your game unless you're signed into an XBL profile is completely glossed over by so many people. Completely unacceptable.

Why is that unacceptable? It doesn't have to be an online profile afaik.

[confused]

Strange, the OP reminded me I still needed to update GFWL, just did it, cost less than a minute and it was less painful than a 360/PS3 title update.

[onken]

Why is that unacceptable? It doesn't have to be an online profile afaik.

No it doesn't require it, but of course everybody is online anyway so everything is monitored and logged. I just hate the way these corporations just have to get their fucking beaks in for no damn reason.

That and the fact that if/when the service shuts down in the future you won't be able to play those games again properly.

[brain_stew]

OSHI-- Brain_stew not liking GfWL?! Microsoft's revival of the PC market is crumbling...

I've never liked GFWL in its current state and never once claimed that I did.

This thread and error has been passed onto the GFWL team at least, so at the very least some one should know of the problem. Can't give you any guarantees they'll fix it, mind. The ball's in their court.

[Diablohead]

Much as I like to like GFWL is it a real shit hole fairly often.

I need to try out one of my gfwl titles today to make sure I don't run into trouble, I own dirt 2, batman AA, Halo 2, Fuel, GTA4, DoWII, FlatOut and Lost Planet :S

[demon arm]

Downloading and installing the patches outside of GFWL is usually the best option.

Last time I did this was in Bioshock 2 because downloading and/or patching from GFWL was taking ages. It wasn't at all transparent what the client was actually doing, and the progress bar just wasn't moving.

[onken]

I've never liked GFWL and never once claimed that I did.

I seem to recall in the early DR2 threads you were talking about the graphical improvements "... and it has GFWL support!" like it was some sort of advantage.

[Ihya]

After my terrible experiences of GFWL due to getting a free copy of Red Faction: Guerilla, I am never EVER buying a GFWL game ever again.

[confused]

I seem to recall in the early DR2 threads you were talking about the graphical improvements "... and it has GFWL support!" like it was some sort of advantage.

Stew only praises GFWL for it's potential and as a counterweight to Steam. He's always been quite negative about the platform, only the last few weeks has he been slightly more positive about it due to the overhaul we all expected more from.

[Amir0x]

i'm so sorry ghst :(

[onken]

Stew only praises GFWL for it's potential and as a counterweight to Steam. He's always been quite negative about the platform, only the last few weeks has he been slightly more positive about it due to the overhaul we all expected more from.

Fair enough, I don't go round cataloging posts (...yet :p) that just came to mind.

Maybe I'm just bitter, I have exactly one GFWL game (Gears) and it's pretty fucking abysmal.