itxaka
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(01-09-2011, 08:22 PM)

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#5001

Originally Posted by BigNastyCurve:
Some weird debug crap in the middle of the screen when using the snes9x stuff. Not sure what that is.

It seems that the snes9x version signed is from an alpha of last year. Wasn't even compiled by the original author but by a third person as a proof of concept.

In fact I think the creator of snes9x got mad as people are seeing a crappy version of his emulator :lol
cyberheater
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(01-09-2011, 08:24 PM)

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#5002

Originally Posted by Marrshu:
I'm not terribly worried, at least with Geohotz's method. It was already confirmed a few pages back that you can just revert to regular 3.55 if they start banning accounts.



Yeah it's on every game. The emulator was just a quick port of SNES9x. I give it another day or two and we'll see a proper version.
If you go on PSN whilst using a CFW then there is a risk that you will leave a fingerprint that would allow Sony to ban you. It all depends how aggressive Sony wants to be to combat this.
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(01-09-2011, 08:24 PM)

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#5003

Originally Posted by Marrshu:
I'm not terribly worried, at least with Geohotz's method. It was already confirmed a few pages back that you can just revert to regular 3.55 if they start banning accounts.
That's the thing I'm worried about. I can't give a shit if they ban my BC PS3, because I could just get a slim and go online. PSN account that I have 1400+ trophies and $100+ in content on? Yeah, that's worrisome.
Sophia
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(01-09-2011, 08:25 PM)

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#5004

Originally Posted by cyberheater:
If you go on PSN whilst using a CFW then there is a risk that you will leave a fingerprint that would allow Sony to ban you. It all depends how aggressive Sony wants to be to combat this.
Meh, let em be aggressive. If this ends up anything like the situation with the Wii, then Homebrew will be more valuable then PSN access anyhow.
angelfly
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(01-09-2011, 08:29 PM)

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#5005

Originally Posted by TheSeks:
That's the thing I'm worried about. I can't give a shit if they ban my BC PS3, because I could just get a slim and go online. PSN account that I have 1400+ trophies and $100+ in content on? Yeah, that's worrisome.
I'm probably somewhere close to $300 or $400 spent on PSN between my NA and JP accounts but I'm diving in. I connected to PSN every day when the PSN enabled payload was first released until Sony blocked it. If they do block it then they're just saving me money and losing money that I would also spend on retail games in the future in favor of buying them on 360 so I can play them online.
itxaka
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(01-09-2011, 08:31 PM)

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#5006

Originally Posted by TheSeks:
That's the thing I'm worried about. I can't give a shit if they ban my BC PS3, because I could just get a slim and go online. PSN account that I have 1400+ trophies and $100+ in content on? Yeah, that's worrisome.

If they are smarter they will ban consoles so people can jump and get another console to play their psn games and keep their trophies like with 360's bannings (bans?).
wwm0nkey
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(01-09-2011, 08:35 PM)

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#5007

I doubt they will ban PS3's
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(01-09-2011, 08:36 PM)

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#5008

I use the swap disc method for streaming my japanese PS2 games to my PS3 but I haven't done that in a while because it is too cumbersome. I just want the damn thing to work from the HDD and I can finally play the real Victorious Boxers 2, not that fake shit we got stateside for $20. I've been trying to play this game as properly as I can without getting a chipped PS2. I bought it from Play-Asia and I've been in the PCSX2 thread as far back as 2007 trying to get this running, lol. Dammit Ippo, I will get it working one day! :lol
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(01-09-2011, 08:37 PM)

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#5009

Originally Posted by wwm0nkey:
I doubt they will ban PS3's
I don't think they will have a choice.
intheinbetween
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(01-09-2011, 08:42 PM)

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#5010

so multiman (well known jailbreak backup manager) is coming to 3.55 CFW
Cday
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(01-09-2011, 08:45 PM)

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#5011

Is there any actual evidence that Sony regulates PSN at all?
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(01-09-2011, 08:49 PM)

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#5012

Originally Posted by Cday:
Is there any actual evidence that Sony is giving a fuck at all?
Fixed for accuracy. Their lack of response is astounding.
TheChewyWaffles
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(01-09-2011, 08:53 PM)

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#5013

Wow, things are moving fast now.
3rdman
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(01-09-2011, 08:54 PM)
#5014

Regarding any of the homebrew emus/backup managers...Do any of them support loading files from a network?

Also, my backups are presently on my HDD...would anything happen to them if I upgrade the firmware?
Zoe
(01-09-2011, 08:54 PM)

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#5015

Originally Posted by Branson:
So if you install geohots fw, and Sony releases a new mandatory update, and you want to keep playing online, can you update safely? Or is it too early to tell?
It's too early to tell. Sony probably wouldn't be able to act until the next OFW iteration. However, you can be certain that they're following everything Geohot's doing.

Originally Posted by cyberheater:
No one here would seriously think that running homebrew/CFW is a 100% safe activity. It really doesn't need to be stated.
Obviously not if people are still asking if it's safe to go onto PSN.
jigglywiggly
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(01-09-2011, 08:54 PM)

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#5016

I wish these apps didn't broadcast themselves over the presence data so much. I got like 15 PSN messages when using the file manager saying "WTF are you doing?" :lol
ivedoneyourmom
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(01-09-2011, 08:54 PM)

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#5017

Originally Posted by Agent Icebeezy:
Fixed for accuracy. Their lack of response is astounding.
How would you expect them to respond? Put a front page ad in the NY Times: "W3 got hoX0r-d by teh geohotz, download ur warez for fr33."
Fatghost
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(01-09-2011, 08:54 PM)

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#5018

Originally Posted by Agent Icebeezy:
Fixed for accuracy. Their lack of response is astounding.

Not really.

They did say two days ago that they were aware of this and planned to stop it with a series of network updates.

What else can they do?

They don't want to make a big deal of it because 99% of the public doesn't know about this and wouldn't understand it anyway - why tell them they can pirate games if they just wait a little while?

Also, they may want to let this develop a bit and wait and see what happens and what gets released and used, they may need to see so many PS3s with CFW on it before they have an idea how to stop it.

Finally, if they actually do have a strategy in mind the last thing they would want to do is let the hackers know ahead of time so they can plan their next response.


Sony's said all they are going to say.
BritBloke916
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(01-09-2011, 08:55 PM)
#5019

Originally Posted by Conflict NZ:
What are the odds of PS2 emulation ever running smoothly? I've been wanting to put my ps2 into storage for a while now but can't because I have a slim.
The chances of smooth PS2 emulation on a PS3 Slim? Somewhere between zero and nil.
cyberheater
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(01-09-2011, 08:56 PM)

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#5020

Originally Posted by Zoe:
Obviously not if people are still asking if it's safe to go onto PSN.
I have to agree with you. Unbelievable really.
yurinka
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(01-09-2011, 08:58 PM)

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#5021

Originally Posted by cyberheater:
If you go on PSN whilst using a CFW then there is a risk that you will leave a fingerprint that would allow Sony to ban you. It all depends how aggressive Sony wants to be to combat this.
In PSP they just disabled PSN for non-official firmwares. As I remember they never banned a user for using custom firmwares or homebrew.
BoboBrazil
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(01-09-2011, 09:02 PM)

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#5022

New version of snes9x 4.4.1 working on geohot 3.55 http://www.multiupload.com/PM45UC1681
cyberheater
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(01-09-2011, 09:03 PM)

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#5023

Quote:
Per DEAN...

"Now as a simple POC (proof of concept) that a game can run without ANY SYSCALLS involved (from internal HDD) I created a small application. Here are the steps:

1) Get a game and write down the game ID (let’s say XXXX12345)
2) Copy the game contents to /dev_hdd0/game/XXXX12345 (no PS3_GAME folder involved)
3) Rename /dev_hdd0/game/XXXX12345/USRDIR/EBOOT.BIN to MM_EBOOT.BIN
4) Install the magic MYGAME.pkg (the one I created)
5) Run your game backup from the XMB without a blu-ray game disc inserted and without /app_home or any other mappings (no syscalls used by the small app)
6) Game starts and plays as if it was ran from BD-ROM disc
7) Should you decide to update the game to a later version 2 more steps are requred but you get the general idea.
The good thing is that game saves, tropheys and updates work, since the game is spawned with the original GAME ID.

Btw the ‘magic app’ is just 4 lines of code. I’ll now test a game (Uncharted 2) to check if all is okay when there are “special circumstances”."
What does this mean...?
Fatghost
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(01-09-2011, 09:04 PM)

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#5024

Originally Posted by BritBloke916:
The chances of smooth PS2 emulation on a PS3 Slim? Somewhere between zero and nil.

Wii emulation will happen before PS2 emulation for sure :lol
TheChewyWaffles
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(01-09-2011, 09:05 PM)

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#5025

Originally Posted by cyberheater:
What does this mean...?
backup loader from HD
Fatghost
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(01-09-2011, 09:05 PM)

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#5026

Originally Posted by cyberheater:
What does this mean...?

It means you can load games from the HDD. EDIT: Spoke too soon, Dantes Inferno does NOT work. :lol
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(01-09-2011, 09:07 PM)

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#5027

Originally Posted by BigNastyCurve:
backup loader from HD
Using the current version of geohot CFW 3.55 without the requirement for sys calls ?
TheChewyWaffles
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(01-09-2011, 09:08 PM)

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#5028

Originally Posted by cyberheater:
Using the current version of geohot CFW 3.55 without the requirement for sys calls ?
Not all games, apparently, but he's still doing internal testing and a lot of them have worked.

edit: yes, signed app on Geohot's modded FW
Keyser Soze
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(01-09-2011, 09:13 PM)

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#5029

Nice to see exciting stuff is finally happening :D
TheSeks
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(01-09-2011, 09:14 PM)

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#5030

Originally Posted by cyberheater:
Using the current version of geohot CFW 3.55 without the requirement for sys calls ?
Yes. It's an early beta and if you have to update/patch the game it doesn't work right now. If I'm reading right. But it's alpha and proof of concept.
itxaka
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#5031

If no syscalls are involved (ourside of Sony's) then he is bypassing npdrm and making the ps3 believe that is launching a psn game?
Genesis Knight
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(01-09-2011, 09:17 PM)

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#5032

Dreamcast and Saturn emus inbound, I hope. DC for sure after seeing that pretty damn good Droid port of NullDC. Don't see why SSF (Saturn emu) can't make it to the PS3.

If they can port NullDC to the PS3, why not a PS2 emu? Hardware recs for the emus that different? (Original consoles weren't that different.)
ivedoneyourmom
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(01-09-2011, 09:18 PM)

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#5033

Originally Posted by Genesis Knight:
Dreamcast and Saturn emus inbound, I hope. DC for sure after seeing that pretty damn good Droid port of NullDC. Don't see why SSF (Saturn emu) can't make it to the PS3.

If they can port NullDC to the PS3, why not a PS2 emu? Hardware recs for the emus that different? (Original consoles weren't that different.)
They are very very different.
Fatghost
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(01-09-2011, 09:20 PM)

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#5034

Originally Posted by Genesis Knight:
Dreamcast and Saturn emus inbound, I hope. DC for sure after seeing that pretty damn good Droid port of NullDC. Don't see why SSF (Saturn emu) can't make it to the PS3.

If they can port NullDC to the PS3, why not a PS2 emu? Hardware recs for the emus that different? (Original consoles weren't that different.)

Saturn is a mess internally and that makes it much harder to emulate.
TheChewyWaffles
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(01-09-2011, 09:23 PM)

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#5035

Originally Posted by BoboBrazil:
New version of snes9x 4.4.1 working on geohot 3.55 http://www.multiupload.com/PM45UC1681
Wow, this is a huge upgrade from that first one I put on.
Joey Fox
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(01-09-2011, 09:24 PM)

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#5036

Is there already an application that will rip your games to the ps3 hard drive?
KAL2006
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(01-09-2011, 09:24 PM)

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#5037

so whats been happening with this in the past 3 days. I haven't kept up with the news. can we finally play homebrew on any PS3
Machado
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(01-09-2011, 09:27 PM)

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#5038

Originally Posted by BigNastyCurve:
Wow, this is a huge upgrade from that first one I put on.

What's different?
3rdman
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(01-09-2011, 09:28 PM)
#5039

Originally Posted by Fatghost:
Saturn is a mess internally and that makes it much harder to emulate.
Yep...although it would be interesting to see someone try to tackle it and perhaps have the SPEs emulate the individual CPUs of the Saturn.

I've no doubt the PS3 can do it but whether or not someone will ever dedicate the time needed is another matter.
Sophia
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(01-09-2011, 09:28 PM)

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#5040

Originally Posted by Machado:
What's different?
Better user interface, basically. Everything I tried worked with the first one, but this one has configuration settings and such. The first one wouldn't even let you exit out of the game to load another one :lol
BocoDragon
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(01-09-2011, 09:30 PM)

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#5041

Originally Posted by Fatghost:
Saturn is a mess internally and that makes it much harder to emulate.
Isn't that kind of an urban myth? Not that it isn't a mess internally.... But SSF exists! It's nearly perfect emulation for most games I've seen on it.
TheChewyWaffles
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(01-09-2011, 09:31 PM)

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#5042

Originally Posted by Marrshu:
Better user interface, basically. Everything I tried worked with the first one, but this one has configuration settings and such. The first one wouldn't even let you exit out of the game to load another one :lol
Well you could always hit the PS button, but yah.
Zoe
(01-09-2011, 09:32 PM)

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#5043

Originally Posted by Joey Fox:
Is there already an application that will rip your games to the ps3 hard drive?
Only for JB PS3's. With the one that was discussed a few posts up, you would need some way to acquire the game files...
TheChewyWaffles
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(01-09-2011, 09:32 PM)

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#5044

Originally Posted by Machado:
What's different?
UI, everything. This is a very polished version. The other one looked just like someone said it was - an early alpha from last year.
Sophia
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(01-09-2011, 09:32 PM)

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#5045

Originally Posted by BigNastyCurve:
Well you could always hit the PS button, but yah.
Well yeah, that works. But it was a hassle. Plus, this newer version actually runs at 1080p/720p and not merely 480p.
Keyser Soze
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(01-09-2011, 09:32 PM)

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#5046

Originally Posted by KAL2006:
so whats been happening with this in the past 3 days. I haven't kept up with the news. can we finally play homebrew on any PS3
You've not really missed a while lot in three days, as today is probably the biggest day in regards to advancements. Today has seen a few workable things actually coming out, with snes9x 4.4.1 the most stable/useful thing released yet.
TheSeks
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(01-09-2011, 09:35 PM)

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#5047

Originally Posted by itxaka:
If no syscalls are involved (ourside of Sony's) then he is bypassing npdrm and making the ps3 believe that is launching a psn game?
Which for some games is pretty safe, depending on the gameid. Sony may have changed the gameid of psn releases of Warhawk/MAG, etc. than their retail discs.

Then again, they haven't really done that for PSX/PSP releases, so who knows.
TheChewyWaffles
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(01-09-2011, 09:35 PM)

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#5048

http://www.multiupload.com/8SCVGBBMU1

SNES9x PS3 4.4.2 - CFW 3.55

earlier version in this thread was 4.4.1 - I imagine only emulation enthusiasts may care about the incremental upgrade
jigglywiggly
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(01-09-2011, 09:36 PM)

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#5049

Originally Posted by Marrshu:
Well yeah, that works. But it was a hassle. Plus, this newer version actually runs at 1080p/720p and not merely 480p.
And saving your game actually works.
TheChewyWaffles
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(01-09-2011, 09:37 PM)

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#5050

Originally Posted by Marrshu:
Well yeah, that works. But it was a hassle. Plus, this newer version actually runs at 1080p/720p and not merely 480p.
Yes, I noticed it was a nice resolution upgrade.