[Zoe]

basically you can now make anything with the Sony PS3 SDK (which is out there) and run it on any PS3 ? why hasn't someone made a game which just gives you trophies every time you jump

Pretty sure somebody already made something like that for the hacked consoles.

[Dreamgazer]

basically you can now make anything with the Sony PS3 SDK (which is out there) and run it on any PS3 ? why hasn't someone made a game which just gives you trophies every time you jump

1) That would only benefit if you like to look at trophies all by yourself - as there wouldn't be anything on the Sony servers to snyc to.

2) Certain Little Big Planet custom levels already do that, so there is no need for that.

3) There's already an app to allow you to unlock any trophy for any game and assign a random timestamp to each one...FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU cheaters!

[RyanDG]

basically you can now make anything with the Sony PS3 SDK (which is out there) and run it on any PS3 ? why hasn't someone made a game which just gives you trophies every time you jump

Unless there's been an update in the last 12 hours or so that I'm not aware of, we still aren't to the point yet where software is being run on any PS3 without being in service mode or having custom firmware. Someone correct me if i'm wrong about that... If that has been changed I may have missed it.

[darkwing]

Most people (myself included) are avoiding the officially SDK and instead are writing stuff using the free available GCC based toolchain and libraries.

FFVII remake confirmed?

[test_account]

An easily doable mod would be "undubs" of Japanese games. Put the J-voices back in the English language version, for titles like MGS4 or FFXIII.

Out of curiousity, why is this needed when there already excist a japanese and an english version of these games?

basically you can now make anything with the Sony PS3 SDK (which is out there) and run it on any PS3 ? why hasn't someone made a game which just gives you trophies every time you jump

Maybe it takes quite some time to study the PS3 SDK to know how it works etc., especially when it comes to implement trohpy support. But i guess that it is possible to make such a game that you mention.

[darkwing]

1) That would only benefit if you like to look at trophies all by yourself - as there wouldn't be anything on the Sony servers to snyc to. 2) Certain Little Big Planet custom levels already do that, so there is no need for that. 3) There's already an app to allow you to unlock any trophy for any game and assign a random timestamp to each one...FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU cheaters!

:lol yeah there is that app, but CFW can go online , sooooo??

[distrbnce]

Well, it is not like these hackers were trapped/prisoned by Sony and they finally broke out of this torment and earned freedom hehe :) When they buy a PS3, they know that you cant do everything with the PS3. Hacking the PS3 to get more access to features etc. is something that the hackers decided for themself to get more freedom with the system, it isnt exactly a type of freedom that is a human right if you know what i mean?

I'm not really trying to equate human freedom to the freedom to hack your console, but just saying that to have freedom for yourself, you must allow freedom of others.

Yes, by "freeing" the PS3, they've given others the opportunity to do damage... But that freedom trumps the risk.

I forgot to asked in my previous post, but do you mean to get information on how the Cell CPU works? If so, there is already easily available info on this on the internet. Here is one example: http://www.blachford.info/computer/Cell/Cell0_v2.html

No, not how it works, but how he used to talk about us linking multiple "Cell-enabled devices" together to enable distributive processing.

The first application I could think of would be porting SETI@Home, like Folding@Home is now.

But beyond that, there could of course be some creative uses for gaming.

[ivedoneyourmom]

You forget of course that pirates are heartless, uncaring shells of what was formerly human and care nothing for the well being of anyone except themselves. This is why they typically dwell in cave-like residences with no other human contact.

So basically like big business? :lol

[Zoe]

Out of curiousity, why is this needed when there already excist a japanese and an english version of these games?

It's if you can't understand Japanese and need the English subs and menus.

[Jomjom]

3) There's already an app to allow you to unlock any trophy for any game and assign a random timestamp to each one...FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU cheaters!

Wow first time I've heard of this. These trophies can get synced to Sony's servers as well? If so trophies are even more meaningless than they already were.

[Emitan]

So basically like big business? :lol

Guys, wait...listen to this...the pirates are the corporations.

[JardeL]

That "Linux removal" motivation claim is BS. Sony didn't remove Linux from phats at first, we had it until these bastards kept messing with the system.

PS3 Slim announcement [ No OtherOS option ] - August 2009
Fw 3.21 [ bye bye OtherOS ] - April 2010

See? Anyone who had a Linux-installed-PS3 continued their work on it even after Slim launch. As of August 2009 there were around 23 million PS3s with OtherOS option out there according to VGC.

And don't forget that these guys never bothered with Linux development in PS3. You remember any useful apps from them? I don't remember any.

I don't blame Sony for OtherOS removal anymore.

[Zoe]

No, not how it works, but how he used to talk about us linking multiple "Cell-enabled devices" together to enable distributive processing. The first application I could think of would be porting SETI@Home, like Folding@Home is now. But beyond that, there could of course be some creative uses for gaming.

They weren't really "linked" with Folding though. Each PS3 received its own set to work on.

[A.R.K]

Any one saying these hackers are just doing it for homebrew and they don't support piracy is too naive or plain stupid. They very well know that there are many who were waiting for this kind of shit to happen so they could start playing pirated games or sell pirated copies of PS3 games specially in countries where the piracy laws are taken very lightly. I am surprised so many here are really happy that it happened.

My question is can Sony in this case do any thing? There should be some thing in the user agreement that should warn about tampering with their hardware and opening it like this to public and sharing the confidential information? Why can't guys like geohot etc be persecuted by these companies? Its one thing hacking on your own for your satisfaction and fun but its another when you open up a console and let every one know how to further rape it.

[test_account]

I'm not really trying to equate human freedom to the freedom to hack your console, but just saying that to have freedom for yourself, you must allow freedom of others. Yes, by "freeing" the PS3, they've given others the opportunity to do damage... But that freedom trumps the risk.

Ok, i see what you mean. But it still remains to see if this freedom will lead to more good than bad. I think that there is a fair chance that it will lead to more bad than good in the big picture, but again, it still remains to be seen =)

No, not how it works, but how he used to talk about us linking multiple "Cell-enabled devices" together to enable distributive processing. The first application I could think of would be porting SETI@Home, like Folding@Home is now. But beyond that, there could of course be some creative uses for gaming.

Ah ok, i see. That has been possible for quite some time (that is why i.e those research institutes bought many PS3s to do heavy calculations, running all the PS3s as a cluster). I cant say for sure, but i would not be surprised if there is info out on the internet that shows how this works :)

[Shai-Tan]

It's if you can't understand Japanese and need the English subs and menus.

yeah, there are some games with bad English voice acting that would be better listening to the Japanese instead however I can't think of any on the PS3 off the top of my head. I am finally enjoying Valkyria Chronicles 2 undub on PSP which I waited a while for. Valkyria Chronicles 1 on PS3 already has the Japanese.

[Zoe]

My question is can Sony in this case do any thing? There should be some thing in the user agreement that should warn about tampering with their hardware and opening it like this to public and sharing the confidential information? Why can't guys like geohot etc be persecuted by these companies? Its one thing hacking on your own for your satisfaction and fun but its another when you open up a console and let every one know how to further rape it.

There's very little they can do legally.

But you can attempt to sue for pretty much anything in the US.

[railGUN]

Any one saying these hackers are just doing it for homebrew and they don't support piracy is too naive or plain stupid. They very well know that there are many who were waiting for this kind of shit to happen so they could start playing pirated games or sell pirated copies of PS3 games specially in countries where the piracy laws are taken very lightly. I am surprised so many here are really happy that it happened. My question is can Sony in this case do any thing? There should be some thing in the user agreement that should warn about tampering with their hardware and opening it like this to public and sharing the confidential information? Why can't guys like geohot etc be persecuted by these companies? Its one thing hacking on your own for your satisfaction and fun but its another when you open up a console and let every one know how to further rape it.

Persecuted for what? Math? Blogging? Sony is who you should be most angry at... they could have avoided most of this with a random number.

[Shambles]

Any one saying these hackers are just doing it for homebrew and they don't support piracy is too naive or plain stupid. They very well know that there are many who were waiting for this kind of shit to happen so they could start playing pirated games or sell pirated copies of PS3 games specially in countries where the piracy laws are taken very lightly. I am surprised so many here are really happy that it happened. My question is can Sony in this case do any thing? There should be some thing in the user agreement that should warn about tampering with their hardware and opening it like this to public and sharing the confidential information? Why can't guys like geohot etc be persecuted by these companies? Its one thing hacking on your own for your satisfaction and fun but its another when you open up a console and let every one know how to further rape it.

Jesus you people are scary. Corporatocracy indeed.

[Emitan]

Jesus you people are scary. Corporatocracy indeed.

It's because they think they're licensing toys when they own a computer.

[RyanDG]

And don't forget that these guys never bothered with Linux development in PS3. You remember any useful apps from them? I don't remember any.

First and foremost, the beauty of Linux on the PS3 is that there was a ton of Linux applications out there not specifically designed for the PS3 that was able to run on the PS3. There wasn't a need for these guys to bother with Linux development on the PS3 since it was all already there, available.

Hell, I loved Linux on my PS3 just for Last.FM and ScummVM support.

[darkwing]

Wow first time I've heard of this. These trophies can get synced to Sony's servers as well? If so trophies are even more meaningless than they already were.

well with this latest info, it would be possible to synced them because you aren't bound to lower firmware any more (you can run the trophy making app in your 3.55FW PS3)

[felipepl]

Or an Ayane nude mod for NGS2.

Who's that on the avatar?

[ivedoneyourmom]

That freedom can come with a quite hefty price for others though.

That can be said with all freedoms. Freedom of speech allows me to speak out against my governments oppressive actions, but it also allows people to call me a fucker.

Tradeoffs, they're everywhere! :lol

[alr1ght]

nm :D

[Jomjom]

well with this latest info, it would be possible to synced them because you aren't bound to lower firmware any more (you can run the trophy making app in your 3.55FW PS3)

Wow time to get every platinum trophy there is!

[angelfly]

People seem to forget that the trophy tool has been out for months and that jailbroken consoles had a good 2 weeks to connect to PSN so I'm sure there are plenty of people with 100% platinum trophies that used it. Seems people are still on doomsday mode.

[darkwing]

Wow time to get every platinum trophy there is!

i think you need to have the game registered to your PS3 first (ran it), not for ALL games out there, well if you can borrow them :lol

this would make the Playstation Rewards program meaningless as well

[Dreamgazer]

People seem to forget that the trophy tool has been out for months and that jailbroken consoles had a good 2 weeks to connect to PSN so I'm sure there are plenty of people with 100% platinum trophies that used it. Seems people are still on doomsday mode.

Everyday is doomsday when they mess with my precious trophies:lol

[Zoe]

Everyday is doomsday when they mess with my precious trophies:lol

See the post above yours. There was supposedly a rewards program in the works.

[darkwing]

People seem to forget that the trophy tool has been out for months and that jailbroken consoles had a good 2 weeks to connect to PSN so I'm sure there are plenty of people with 100% platinum trophies that used it. Seems people are still on doomsday mode.

yeah but this time you don't need to jb, anyone can do it

[Glix]

If a museum left a priceless piece of art completely unguarded, and someone stole it, who would get more blame, the thief, or the museum?

I can't believe how many people, not only are crying for Sony, but don't place any blame on them at all, for implementing their security like idiots.

This is Sony's fault, people! :lol

[angelfly]

yeah but this time you don't need to jb, anyone can do it

Is using a program to unlock trophies any different than people who get together and cheat to unlock them? Have you ever played LBP? They're stages designed to instantly give you a bunch of trophies. They're meaningless. I know there was talk of a rewards programs but other than that I see no reason to get angry.

[ivedoneyourmom]

Guys, wait...listen to this...the pirates are the corporations.

LOL, yeah, I'd say the corporations are the pirates, but yeah. :lol

[Zoe]

This is Sony's fault, people! :lol

That doesn't mean other people aren't exacerbating the situation.

Is using a program to unlock trophies any different than people who get together and cheat to unlock them? Have you ever played LBP? They're stages designed to instantly give you a bunch of trophies. They're meaningless. I know there was talk of a rewards programs but other than that I see no reason to get angry.

I'd say there is a difference. The developers (of a single game) put that functionality in there fully knowing people would be able to do that.

This affects all games and takes away the control from the developers.

[Dreamgazer]

If a museum left a priceless piece of art completely unguarded, and someone stole it, who would get more blame, the thief, or the museum?

Uh...I don't know how it is where you come from, but I would blame the thief more.

[alr1ght]

Is using a program to unlock trophies any different than people who get together and cheat to unlock them? Have you ever played LBP? They're stages designed to instantly give you a bunch of trophies. They're meaningless. I know there was talk of a rewards programs but other than that I see no reason to get angry.

seriously??? really?

Personally, trophies/achievements are for my own satisfaction, extending a game or what not, so I don't really care if people cheat to get them.

[BocoDragon]

Out of curiousity, why is this needed when there already excist a japanese and an english version of these games?

As someone already said, someone might want the Japanese voice acting while still wantIng English subtitles and menus. FFXIII even has a few different music tracks in the japanese version. English players may be curious to hear that...

[Jomjom]

If a museum left a priceless piece of art completely unguarded, and someone stole it, who would get more blame, the thief, or the museum? I can't believe how many people, not only are crying for Sony, but don't place any blame on them at all, for implementing their security like idiots. This is Sony's fault, people! :lol

Listen to the man. This is exactly the excuse I have when I steal from people. They simply did not guard their stuff enough. Their fault, not mine.

I mean they didn't guard their shit, what am I supposed to do, not steal it? Come on!

[Chuck Norris]

If a museum left a priceless piece of art completely unguarded, and someone stole it, who would get more blame, the thief, or the museum? I can't believe how many people, not only are crying for Sony, but don't place any blame on them at all, for implementing their security like idiots. This is Sony's fault, people! :lol

Uh the thief, obviously.

[alr1ght]

As someone already said, someone might want the Japanese voice acting while still wantIng English subtitles and menus. FFXIII even has a few different music tracks in the japanese version. English players may be curious to hear that...

or an undub of Yakuza 1. :lol

[Shambles]

Uh...I don't know how it is where you come from, but I would blame the thief more.

Yeah that's a pretty bad analogy as it's theft. It's more like you leave the house to go to the mall with terrible hair and someone takes a picture of you and you try to get mad at them even though it's your own damn fault.

[ivedoneyourmom]

Uh...I don't know how it is where you come from, but I would blame the thief more.

Yeah, in this example I'd have to place more blame on the thief, fortunately for the sake of PS3 homebrew, algebra ain't a crime yet...

[Vamphuntr]

If a museum left a priceless piece of art completely unguarded, and someone stole it, who would get more blame, the thief, or the museum? I can't believe how many people, not only are crying for Sony, but don't place any blame on them at all, for implementing their security like idiots. This is Sony's fault, people! :lol

:lol :lol

That's like saying hey I was driving while being drunk and ran over someone. The blame is all on Captain Morgan he shouldn't sell something that can make me kill people. Or that's saying like oh I killed someone by slipping pesticides in their drink, that's the pesticide company's problem it shouldn't be harmful to human being. Maybe we should all live in Jodie Foster's panic room. I mean if the lock on my door is not biometric and anyone can barge in with brute force, it's my fault for not having a panic room type security.

[Glix]

Dudes. You don't think the media and public would come down HARD on the museum for not guarding it????

and that everyone would say if the thief didn't steal it, another one would have, considering it was totally unguarded?

Never change GAF.

[alr1ght]

no, your analogy was just terrible.

[Jobiensis]

:lol :lol That's like saying hey I was driving while being drunk and ran over someone. The blame is all on Captain Morgan he shouldn't sell something that can make me kill people. Or that's saying like oh I killed someone by slipping pesticides in their drink, that's the pesticide company's problem it shouldn't be harmful to human being. Maybe we should all live in Jodie Foster's panic room. I mean if the lock on my door is not biometric and anyone can barge in with brute force, it's my fault for not having a panic room type security.

Wow, you are as bad at analogies as he is.

This is more like a museum leaves a priceless artifact out. Hackers say the museum left the artifact out. One hacker gives the address of the museum. Pirate steals the artifact. Who is at fault?

We need more cake analogies.

[Zeal]

i like how people are more concerned with trophies than piracy :lol

[doicare]

If a museum left a priceless piece of art completely unguarded, and someone stole it, who would get more blame, the thief, or the museum? I can't believe how many people, not only are crying for Sony, but don't place any blame on them at all, for implementing their security like idiots. This is Sony's fault, people! :lol

Despite only being the 5th of January Glix's post is easily going to be the stupidest post of 2011. :lol

[Jinfash]

:lol :lol That's like saying hey I was driving while being drunk and ran over someone. The blame is all on Captain Morgan he shouldn't sell something that can make me kill people. Or that's saying like oh I killed someone by slipping pesticides in their drink, that's the pesticide company's problem it shouldn't be harmful to human being. Maybe we should all live in Jodie Foster's panic room. I mean if the lock on my door is not biometric and anyone can barge in with brute force, it's my fault for not having a panic room type security.

wtf is this shit?

Stop these awful analogies, you all suck at making them.