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(03-29-2011, 09:56 AM)
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Sweden just got a new 5 star jail
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EDIT: To clarify, since a lot of people keep pointing out that this is a custody and not a prison:
Originally Posted by Manager:
    http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article12798075.ab (Swedish) This isn't the first one like this (it's a custody, but the prisons look similar), there has been several of these built during the last couple of years. Everyone has their own toilet with sink and mirror, 240 """cells""" in total, installed with flatscreens (videogames allowed) and design furnitures. (Northern) European governments talk about rehabilitation of prisoners, so basically that's the reason why it's so luxurious. Not really sure why they couldn't just get Ikea furnitures at least, and not that expensive crap. There was a guy from Estonia last year, who came to Sweden and killed some random guy to be able to sit in these prisons. Not sure if they counted on that to happen when building these hotels. _____ Found this, top-5 luxurious prison cells: http://www.wackyowl.com/5-luxurious-prison-cells/ In that link, there's some prison in California where you pay ~$100 a night to stay in (and it's still not as luxurious as this). Austria and Norway seem to have decent one's. So, how does the American prisons look these days? In other European countries?
Last edited by Manager; 03-29-2011 at 08:27 PM.
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(03-29-2011, 10:09 AM)
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Looking good!
That last one might be a photoshop though. |
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(03-29-2011, 10:09 AM)
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#18
Originally Posted by Xyphie:
I approve of this. Treating prison and rehabilitation and education rather than punishment is a heap-ton more productive. The designer furniture is overkill, though. That's probably taking it took far.
Originally Posted by Tence:
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(03-29-2011, 10:11 AM)
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#19
Originally Posted by aku:jiki:
Some of the furnitures were made in other jails though. The Swedish government has started up a brand for it, "Made in Jail": http://www.thelocal.se/9539/20080102/ So basically prisoners are paid by the hour to make furnitures, sunglasses, jeans etc, while being in jail. |
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(03-29-2011, 10:13 AM)
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#20
Originally Posted by Suairyu:
 Just sayin'. The discussion is dishonest if we're going to pretend that these couches were like $1000 rather than $150. |
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(03-29-2011, 10:14 AM)
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#21
Originally Posted by Suairyu:
Not sure what that means. |
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(03-29-2011, 10:15 AM)
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#23
Originally Posted by aku:jiki:
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(03-29-2011, 10:20 AM)
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#25
Originally Posted by xxracerxx:
Like my post says; just saying. What's the point of talking about this like they spent $10k on each room when they clearly didn't? |
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(03-29-2011, 10:20 AM)
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Cells here in the Netherlands from what I could find:
4m80 by 2m40, one person per cell Prisoner can bring a radio, rent a small TV (no videogames afaik) Cell has bed, desk, chair, closet, toilet One hour a week for visitors, ten minutes a week on the phone Jail in my city (Currently partially rented out to Belgium):  All seems fair enough.
Last edited by Kabouter; 03-29-2011 at 10:26 AM.
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(03-29-2011, 10:26 AM)
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Looks shitty to me. Just looks like what a prison would if you traded concrete and steel for plywood and ugly black microfibre upholstery. Fuck that.
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Banned
(03-29-2011, 10:26 AM)
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#32
Reminds me of an news article that i saw when i visited Finland. Article was about a prisoner who made 2300 euros a month by participating in prisons own work programs... problem is that he made more money then the guards :D Scandinavian prison system really seems odd but at least the prisoners will end up as productive members of society (most of the time) when they have served their time so I guess they are doing something right.
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(03-29-2011, 12:23 PM)
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#39
It seems strange if you believe people are absolute masters of their own destiny unaffected by their environments and surroundings, and that when they commit wrong it is because they're innately evil and must be severely punished for it.
From an economic stand point, where rehabilitation is cheaper and more productive than expensive penal environments (even if the expenses aren't been placed into prisoner comfort) that unintentionally but aggressively promote recidivism... then it kinda makes sense. The loss of freedom is disincentive enough for most to not commit crimes, irrespective of the decent standard of comfort within a swedish jail. It might be cheaper than a hotel... but when you can't leave it for the next 5 years under any circumstances, then you might not quite feel quite so chuffed about the free stay.
Last edited by Zaptruder; 03-29-2011 at 12:26 PM.
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When keepin it real goes wrong. Very, very wrong.
(03-29-2011, 12:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by ZombieFred:
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Became a moderator just to tag himself.
(03-29-2011, 12:28 PM)
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Americans see gaol as the thing you go to for punishment and deterrence, the Swedish see it as that thing you send people to for rehabilitation into model citizens. Honestly though, I don't think Americans can really argue that their prison system is very effective.
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