itxaka
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(06-02-2011, 11:42 AM)

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#151

Originally Posted by syoaran:
[IG]http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/1077703382_ngFHz-L.jpg[/IMG]

Photoshop the last panel to say: "Shepard" and we are all set

Sho_Nuff82
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(06-02-2011, 11:55 AM)

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#152

Originally Posted by LiquidMetal14:
Let's have lunch!

And people, Amir0x has rationality in his reasoning. I know some are so enamored and some just can't see why Kinect does not make most games better but everyone is entitled to their opinion. As he said, vote with your dollars. More people will probably buy it on 360 but not for the Kinect gimmick. Userbase speaks too.
Your use of "gimmick" is presumptuous as you have no idea how it's going to be integrated. Kinect support could be something as minor as voice commands, menu navigation, or dialogue-wheel control.

If there was an optional "Shephard club-dancing mode" or using gestures to spaz out your character during conversations, that would be a gimmick.
reptilescorpio
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(06-02-2011, 12:00 PM)

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#153

Originally Posted by itxaka:
Wrex - Shep
As someone who dislikes Kinect and has no interest in one that edit made me a little excited downstairs. Too bad I'm Australian and Kinect hates us. :(
Dennis
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(06-02-2011, 12:01 PM)

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#154

Snuggler, I think this may be the time to reintroduce that special Krogan .jpg you have on your harddrive.
szaromir
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(06-02-2011, 12:05 PM)
#155

Originally Posted by Amir0x:
What is the point? I'm always amused when people say this. The point of any control is to be the most precise/accurate, efficient and reliable as can be. There's no other ideal that is even worth visiting for a millisecond.

Drinky Crow likes to stir water, and people looove to claim I'm doing the same, but my opinions are genuine. I say them because I care about the state of the industry and am genuinely concerned about what such a gigantic step back in controls getting popular means for gaming. In my view, it only bodes ill for the quality of future titles.
The point of Kinect isn't to offer the most precise and responsive, it's to offer controlling some in-game stuff with body motions or voice controls, which many people consider fun. Yes if a game is Kinect only it probably won't offer deep, but a) neither are most AAA games nowadays, b) the controller is still there, so it's not like Kinect will destroy controller based gaming, the touch screen in NDS didn't kill the use of button in it either, it's just one of the options going forward.

I'd like to add that most games have very noticeable control lag even with a controller (pretty much anything with >100ms response time is very annoying), I am surprised that I never see Kinect antagonists complaining about that.

As for Drinky Crow, his opinions are genuine as well.

Quote:
As jett and some others can tell you, I am one of the people who went into Uncharted 1 and 2 topics and shit on the automated platforming. I am extremely consistent. But those games do other things well, including controlling pretty damn well, and it's only possible with a controller. Still, overall I've never thought they were classic games. I've had massive problems with both titles and said so.

But, I do heavily disagree with your final comment. I do think Kinect would make these games infinitely worse.

Try that type of game on Kinect and it'd either have some gimmickry voice implementation or laggy on rail gameplay.
Well, no one wants to make old games with Kinect only, "worst case" scenario Kinect will play a supplementary role (like in ME3) to the traditional controller. Some of those Kinect features might turn out unnecessary, but there are many controller based games with tacked on and useless features, so ultimately bad game design is to be blamed and not the devices themselves.
steverulez
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(06-02-2011, 12:09 PM)

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#156

Better with Kinect functionality tells us its not required which is fine... if devs want to experiment I don't mind it might even be good.
Label
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(06-02-2011, 12:11 PM)

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#157

Originally Posted by Metalmurphy:
If they let you order your squad through arm/hand motions it would be cool.



Even if pressing a button is faster and more convenient lol
That is what instantly came to mind, I would actually like that. Would be kinda cool for the first few times you use it..
DeaconKnowledge
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(06-02-2011, 12:30 PM)

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#158

Here comes the superfluous support for supports sake.
Captain Tuttle
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(06-02-2011, 12:30 PM)

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#159

Once again the first post is wonderful.

I'm OK with MS throwing all of this optional Kinect stuff in. If it works, great, if it sucks then I won't use it.
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(06-02-2011, 12:32 PM)

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#160

Originally Posted by itxaka:
wrex n' shep
i love you please take my babies.
ukresistance
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(06-02-2011, 12:35 PM)

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#161

I think Kinect will be used for the dialogue choices.
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(06-02-2011, 12:36 PM)

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#162

Originally Posted by ukresistance:
I think Kinect will be used for the dialogue choices.
If I can ask Tali if I can do her poohole I may just get Kinect.

*fantasizes*
Nab
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(06-02-2011, 12:50 PM)
#163

Biowares comments on Kinect are encouraging. Excited to see what they're showing off at E3!
Blue Ninja
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(06-02-2011, 12:52 PM)

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#164

Originally Posted by PetriP-TNT:
Shepard.

Kinect.



I guess it could work very well in the conversation parts
Selecting dialog options with your hands. Huh, never thought of that.

I'd never use it, but it's a possibility. Heck, maybe I'll use it once, for shits and giggles. My Kinect's gathering dust anyways, good thing it was free.
McBradders
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(06-02-2011, 12:57 PM)

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#165

MAYBE YOU CAN SCAN YOUR FACE SO YOU CAN BE SHEPARD THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

I always wanted to go in drag.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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(06-02-2011, 12:58 PM)

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#166

Maybe there's a new Kinect feature that will be revealed at E3. Possibly headtracking/dynamic perspective, like those Johnny Lee Wii Remote hacks on youtube.
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(06-02-2011, 01:26 PM)

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#167

Alien love gets physical?
Dyno
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(06-02-2011, 02:28 PM)

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#168

It makes sense in that Bioware games are geting more and more casual. DA and ME are going the way of Fable, not towards something like The Witcher or even Demon's Souls.
HadesGigas
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(06-03-2011, 05:57 AM)

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#169

@CaseyDHudson
Casey Hudson
Can't comment on the Kinect rumors. On an unrelated note, I just flew to the Citadel and boy are my arms tired.
1 minute ago

http://twitter.com/CaseyDHudson/stat...12395526283264
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(06-03-2011, 05:59 AM)
#170

I could see the mineral scanning game being done with your hands over a console.
derFeef
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(06-03-2011, 06:01 AM)

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#171

Originally Posted by HadesGigas:
@CaseyDHudson
Casey Hudson
Can't comment on the Kinect rumors. On an unrelated note, I just flew to the Citadel and boy are my arms tired.
1 minute ago

http://twitter.com/CaseyDHudson/stat...12395526283264
Space, Normandy, flying, with Kinect? Goddamn if true.
ZeroRay
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(06-03-2011, 06:04 AM)

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#172

Originally Posted by syoaran:


Photoshop the last panel to say: "Shepard" and we are all set
After reading "kill" in this image, my laptop suddenly turned off and I had to buy a new one.

Gonna sue those Penny Arcade guys.
HK-47
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(06-03-2011, 06:16 AM)

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#173

Originally Posted by Chinner:
is it compatible with a story by any chance???
Well done
HK-47
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(06-03-2011, 06:41 AM)

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#174

Originally Posted by Yoshichan:
This thread reminded me how much I want Tali in my hands... I really, really do.
Someone shoot him and put him out of my misery.
Songbird
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(06-03-2011, 06:43 AM)
#175

Originally Posted by derFeef:
Space, Normandy, flying, with Kinect? Goddamn if true.
Now this is interesting.
Infinite Justice
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(06-03-2011, 06:43 AM)

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#176

Originally Posted by DennisK4:
Snuggler, I think this may be the time to reintroduce that special Krogan .jpg you have on your harddrive.
if its what i think it is then NO for the love of God NO.
fna84
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(06-03-2011, 06:44 AM)

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#177

You should be able to scan your face into the game using Kinect.
GT Vespene
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(06-03-2011, 06:45 AM)

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#178

Kinectgasm

Lunchbox
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(06-03-2011, 06:46 AM)

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#179

Originally Posted by HadesGigas:
@CaseyDHudson
Casey Hudson
Can't comment on the Kinect rumors. On an unrelated note, I just flew to the Citadel and boy are my arms tired.
1 minute ago

http://twitter.com/CaseyDHudson/stat...12395526283264
YES!

imma fly
with my arms spread high
gonna touch the sky


StudioTan
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(06-03-2011, 07:07 AM)

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#180

Originally Posted by LiquidMetal14:
Let's have lunch!

And people, Amir0x has rationality in his reasoning. I know some are so enamored and some just can't see why Kinect does not make most games better but everyone is entitled to their opinion. As he said, vote with your dollars. More people will probably buy it on 360 but not for the Kinect gimmick. Userbase speaks too.
No, saying you bought the first 2 games on the Xbox and you're no longer going to buy the 3rd game on the same system simply because they added OPTIONAL Kinect support is not rational reasoning. It's called overreacting.

His money is still going to Bioware, which will help fund more "Better with Kinect" games in the future. Bwahahaha.
Crewnh
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(06-03-2011, 07:09 AM)

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#181

What a waste of time and money.
REMEMBER CITADEL
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(06-03-2011, 07:11 AM)

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#182

Originally Posted by StudioTan:
No, saying you bought the first 2 games on the Xbox and you're no longer going to buy the 3rd game on the same system simply because they added OPTIONAL Kinect support is not rational reasoning. It's called overreacting.

His money is still going to Bioware, which will help fund more "Better with Kinect" games in the future. Bwahahaha.
And the funniest part is, we all know it's also coming to PC eventually. Hell, maybe it will even be ready for ME3, now that would be hilarious.
Snuggler
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(06-03-2011, 07:13 AM)

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#183

Originally Posted by StudioTan:
No, saying you bought the first 2 games on the Xbox and you're no longer going to buy the 3rd game on the same system simply because they added OPTIONAL Kinect support is not rational reasoning. It's called overreacting.
No, he's buying the 3rd on PC because he has a PC now. It's a pretty rational reason.

The persecution complex in some of these threads can be unbearable.
Tron 2.0
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(06-03-2011, 07:13 AM)

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#184

What am I supposed to be seeing in the OP? It just looks like placeholder box art.
StudioTan
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(06-03-2011, 07:18 AM)

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#185

Originally Posted by Snuggler:
No, he's buying the 3rd on PC because he has a PC now. It's a pretty rational reason.

The persecution complex in some of these threads can be unbearable.
Perhaps I'm misreading but it's exactly what he said.

Originally Posted by Amir0x:
No of course not. I just don't want to spend one cent supporting any product that is even tangentially related to Kinect. I did play Mass Effect 1 and 2 on 360. I even have my character save on the 360. But I'm going to play them on PC and start over to avoid it. The device is that regressive. Gotta vote with your dollar, after all.
jaypah
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(06-03-2011, 07:19 AM)

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#186

Originally Posted by Snuggler:
No, he's buying the 3rd on PC because he has a PC now. It's a pretty rational reason.

The persecution complex in some of these threads can be unbearable.
I thought he said that despite having 360 saves from both games he refuses to buy the third on 360 because it would signify that he was ok with games getting Kinect support. He even mentioned voting with his wallet. Whatevz, maybe i misunderstood..... Must be that persecution complex :P
StudioTan
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(06-03-2011, 07:21 AM)

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#187

Originally Posted by REMEMBER CITADEL:
And the funniest part is, we all know it's also coming to PC eventually. Hell, maybe it will even be ready for ME3, now that would be hilarious.
Considering I have a hard time going back to the Xbox now that I've upgraded my PC I'm really hoping I can start using the Kinect on PC soon.
Baller, PhD
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(06-03-2011, 07:22 AM)

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#188

Once again... is the original image uploaded anywhere? OP looks pretty generic and non-Kinected to me.
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(06-03-2011, 07:24 AM)

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#189

I hope they didn't waste too much time + money shoehorning this into the game.
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(06-03-2011, 07:26 AM)

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#190

http://twitter.com/#!/GambleMike/sta...21197269037056
@CaseyDHudson planet mining is a pretty good workout too...
derFeef
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#191

Originally Posted by Hypertrooper:
http://twitter.com/#!/GambleMike/sta...21197269037056
@CaseyDHudson planet mining is a pretty good workout too...
Can't tell if trolling or true, because I thought planet mining was out.
HK-47
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(06-03-2011, 07:31 AM)

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#192

Originally Posted by Hypertrooper:
http://twitter.com/#!/GambleMike/sta...21197269037056
@CaseyDHudson planet mining is a pretty good workout too...
They dare?
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(06-03-2011, 07:31 AM)

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#193

Originally Posted by derFeef:
Can't tell if trolling or true, because I thought planet mining was out.
Ehm? Nah, they said, that it wouldn't be like in ME2.
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(06-03-2011, 07:32 AM)

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#194

Originally Posted by StudioTan:
Considering I have a hard time going back to the Xbox now that I've upgraded my PC I'm really hoping I can start using the Kinect on PC soon.
It would be a nice TrackIR replacement.
Infinite Justice
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(06-03-2011, 07:33 AM)

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#195

Originally Posted by Hypertrooper:
http://twitter.com/#!/GambleMike/sta...21197269037056
@CaseyDHudson planet mining is a pretty good workout too...
if it makes me emulate using a shovel and/or pickaxe then i'm sold :p
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#196

make it move compatible and its an instant ps3 buy
REMEMBER CITADEL
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#197

Originally Posted by Baller, PhD:
Once again... is the original image uploaded anywhere? OP looks pretty generic and non-Kinected to me.
Baller, PhD
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(06-03-2011, 07:42 AM)

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#198

Originally Posted by REMEMBER CITADEL:
Thanks.

Also, fuck my life.
golem
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(06-03-2011, 08:05 AM)

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#199

It would be hilarious if they tied interrupts to Kinect.. I want to shout RENEGADE BITCHES at the screen and make obscene gestures to activate
onken
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(06-03-2011, 08:10 AM)

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#200

Yeah as long as it's optional, can't really complain.

e~ and I really, really hate it when people just put "discuss" and nothing else in the first post. Where's your fucking opinion, op?