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[RUMOUR] More retailer listings appear! (Mario Cafe(?), GTAV, RE6, Rayman/DMC PC)
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Shikamaru Ninja
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Neiteio said:
They did develop Big Brain Academy and NSMB together. So they are capable of developing Pikmin and NSMB together. But there is no way NSMB is for Wii. It is definitely for Nintendo's next hardware.
NSMB1 is still selling on Wii. There is no need for an NSMB 2 for Wii. It also isn't going to sell more hardware.
Wii Motion Plus and Rhythm Tengoku Wii is good enough alongside possible Wii Zelda releases.
Steverulez
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Neiteio said:
No it was more the implementation of the fire stuff in the second one, just reminded me of it is all.
legacyzero
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<3steverulez said:
Alot could have changed since then too.Nirolak said:
"Announcing FAR CRY 3! It takes place in.......IOWA."
Hot Coldman
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Far Cry 3 will be unconnected to the other games, I'd bet good money on it. It's the Final Fantasy of FPSs! :lol
Graphics Horse
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Aren't those meant to be summer titles? They could do with another big multiplayer game late in the year.Shikamaru Ninja said:
Phonomezer
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Gah, I hate "spoilers" like this, save it for after E3, retailers.
SMG was still selling well when Nintendo announced SMG2. The good sales of the first one didn't preclude them from a second -- just like the rest of the industry!Shikamaru Ninja said:
NSMBW2 makes perfect sense. It's a title guaranteed to sell MILLIONS. Everyone loved the first one; everyone will buy the second. And it's a cinch to make; the four-player model has been figured out, the engine's in place, and many assets could be recycled. I'm sure they have plenty of ideas leftover from the first one, too, like the unusued Chicken Suit seen in concept art.
It's easy to see why Reggie, from a business standpoint, could be sitting pretty with Wii's holiday lineup. The system saw some lean months, but it may very well still have a killer year-end push coming: Skyward Sword, NSMBW2, a new Kirby, maybe even The Last Story or Xenoblade Chronicles. That, plus the discounted Mario Kart Wii bundle and new Wii Select line, may finally entice families that still haven't come onboard to get a Wii.
So, who knows what will happen, but a NSMBW2 is definitely within the realm of possibility. Nintendo likes repeating what works. Both SMG and SMG2 sold well. NSMBW, likely a simpler game to make from a production value standpoint alone, sold even better -- and Nintendo must be VERY tempted to sequelize it.
whatevermort
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legacyzero said:
It's based on the comics, made by Telltale Games (if memory serves).
Actually, I'm loving this outpouring of Mario, and you know why? Because it's like watching these inspired artists throwing heaps of paint on the wall -- reds, greens, yellows, blues, fuschias, magentas, blacks, whites -- and in moments creating inspired works of art. SMG, for instance, was so full of wild and over-the-top ideas, like IBLARD in videogame form, that I thought it would take them years to do it all over again. I thought they had tapped out their creativity, emptying it all into one glorious game. But I was wrong! SMG2 came out and did it all over again, and actually supplemented SMG1 so well that the two formed a larger meta-experience we now call the "Galaxy" games, a two-in-one experience that gets us nostalgic. I'd love to see what inspired platforming scenarios the NSMBW people would try now that they have the first game behind them. I'd love to see them prove their creativity knows no bounds as well.Willy105 said:
Shikamaru Ninja
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Neiteio said:
NSMB still pops up on the NPD and Mediacreate at a much higher level than SMG1 did when SMG2 was released. SMG1 did well, but NSMB Wii was on another level. I mean there is a reason why Nintendo doesn't develop a Mario Kart 2 for Wii. Because Mario Kart 1 Wii keeps selling.
Problem #2 is that NSMB is a game that sells for years. Meaning. The platform needs adequate years left for it to reach its potential. How many years do you reckon the Wii has? It just doesn't make sense this late. Even Zelda doesn't make sense but that game will likely only sell like 500k in Japan anyway.
It just would not make sense with Nintendo struggling to have quality launch software for the Cafe to put a killer app from Cafe to a late release on Wii. Anything could happen of course. But EAD announcing a new game in th 5th / 6th year of a console is unheard of.
Sho_Nuff82
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I saw Far Cry 3, get hype.
No Super MvC3 or Rainbow Six yet.
What is Rage Anarchy?
No Super MvC3 or Rainbow Six yet.
What is Rage Anarchy?
bengraven
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steverulez said:
God I hope so. Africa has a ton of potential as a free-roam choose-your-faction game.
This time maybe we'll get crocs in the waters, which felt a bit TOO safe for me riding around. And a few more factions. Like tribals, the UN, other warlords, poachers, etc. Maybe we can hunt down animals for the poachers or hunt poachers for the government wildlife agencies. Fuck yes.
FC2 is in my top 5 games of this gen if you can't tell. Only Skyrim, GTAV and RDR2 hold enough potential to get me more excited.
Graphics Horse
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Sounds like you're describing the reasons why Wii Fit Plus doesn't make sense.Shikamaru Ninja said:
A sequel lets them have a budget priced first game while still raking in cash from existing fans.
Sho_Nuff82
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Vaporware, vaporware, and... vaporware.Paracelsus said:
legacyzero
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Pretty sure I saw Rainbow Six on the Xbox listings.Sho_Nuff82 said:
Sho_Nuff82
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It's not under a R for rainbow or T for Tom Clancy. Ghost Recon and Far Cry are there.legacyzero said:
Blue Ninja
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If that means it'll be better than Far Cry 2, by all means. :lolGreen Scar said:
No, the lack of Mario Kart Wii 2 is because there's a Mario Kart 3DS in the works, plus the fact MKW doesn't have or need a single-player campaign, AND the game is bundled with the system. It has nothing to do with how MKW is selling.Shikamaru Ninja said:
You explained why this isn't a problem: Skyward Sword. They're releasing a new Zelda for Wii in the twilight years of the system. It actually makes more sense to release a NSMBW2. Think of it this way: Zelda = Hardcore and Mario = Casual. Who will buy Nintendo's new system first, the hardcore or the casuals? The hardcore, of course; they're the early adopters. Which means the casuals will still be left to buy Mario for the better-known, lesser-priced Wii. If anything, Zelda is getting screwed in this situation.
All indicators (Nikkei, various leaks) point to Cafe coming out middle of next year. A NSMBW2 would presumably come out this year. The four-player gameplay model is figured out, the engine's in place, the assets are there -- it's a quick turnaround title for Nintendo, minimal investment for all the following:
- Millions of sales: We all know peeps who never game but bought the first one and would buy the second in a heartbeat
- Rejuvenate the Wii: Nintendo is still trying to sell this thing, believe it or not, as the MKW bundle and Wii Select line prove (and who knows? Wii may become a separate pillar from Cafe)
- Soothe investors: I don't know about you, but if I were an investor concerned about sagging Wii sales, I'd feel pretty confident in Nintendo when told they'll have Skyward Sword, NSMBW2, Kirby, etc, to move units this holiday.
It makes too much sense. I could easily see them announcing NSMBW2. Hopefully they will.
sixteen-bit
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I hope RE6 is good.
Shikamaru Ninja said:
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Guys, please take in what is being said here, it's all true and this is the kind of thing Nintendo bases decisions on.
If Nintendo did decide to bring out another Mario game for Wii I think it'd be a pretty big mistake for reasons such as wasted resources due to the fact that the original is still selling and over-saturation of Mario platformers.. Remember also that Nintendo have Mario Kart, Super Mario and Paper Mario releasing on the 3DS over the holidays and early next year too, it's not just a problem with having too many Mario titles on Wii but also too many releasing in the same time frame across multiple platforms. If people get sick of Mario, Nintendo is royally fucked. Iwata knows that.
Neiteio said:No, the lack of Mario Kart Wii 2 is because there's a Mario Kart 3DS in the works, plus the fact MKW doesn't have or need a single-player campaign, AND the game is bundled with the system. It has nothing to do with how MKW is selling.
You explained why this isn't a problem: Skyward Sword. They're releasing a new Zelda for Wii in the twilight years of the system. It actually makes more sense to release a NSMBW2. Think of it this way: Zelda = Hardcore and Mario = Casual. Who will buy Nintendo's new system first, the hardcore or the casuals? The hardcore, of course; they're the early adopters. Which means the casuals will still be left to buy Mario for the better-known, lesser-priced Wii. If anything, Zelda is getting screwed in this situation.
All indicators (Nikkei, various leaks) point to Cafe coming out middle of next year. A NSMBW2 would presumably come out this year. The four-player gameplay model is figured out, the engine's in place, the assets are there -- it's a quick turnaround title for Nintendo, minimal investment for all the following:
- Millions of sales: We all know peeps who never game but bought the first one and would buy the second in a heartbeat
- Rejuvenate the Wii: Nintendo is still trying to sell this thing, believe it or not, as the MKW bundle and Wii Select line prove (and who knows? Wii may become a separate pillar from Cafe)
- Soothe investors: I don't know about you, but if I were an investor concerned about sagging Wii sales, I'd feel pretty confident in Nintendo when told they'll have Skyward Sword, NSMBW2, Kirby, etc, to move units this holiday.
It makes too much sense. I could easily see them announcing NSMBW2. Hopefully they will.
This isn't how Nintendo works...
You clearly have no idea, go google any of the executives (Reggie for example) talk about "evergreen" titles. Nintendo like to release software like Mario Kart and Super Mario Bros and Super Smash Bros that are special in that they sell many units for a long period of time. They also don't release sequels to these kinds of games on the one console because the sequel wouldn't be a 'system seller'. Nintendo aren't so much about selling software with these titles. They are trying to sell their hardware. They wouldn't be wise to waste their talent on a title that wouldn't sell all that many systems when that system was a sinking ship..
Again, it's possible they see things differently but it would go against everything else they've done in the past and I believe it'd be a pretty questionable decision.
Worthintendo
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It's pretty obvious that the retailer in question is EBGames, the Ocarina Edition really explains it.
My theory? EBGames Australia recently announced that there is going to be a conference in October, which will showcase all the games, footage and such that were shown at E3 to the Australian public. These will be held after the managers and such watch everything and move on.
There's even rumours that Cafe will be playable a whole four months after the Cafe reveal. Would it be at all possible that EBGames knows about these products and such because they ACTUALLY NEED TO in order to properly organise the event?
How much time in advance are these things planned?
My theory? EBGames Australia recently announced that there is going to be a conference in October, which will showcase all the games, footage and such that were shown at E3 to the Australian public. These will be held after the managers and such watch everything and move on.
There's even rumours that Cafe will be playable a whole four months after the Cafe reveal. Would it be at all possible that EBGames knows about these products and such because they ACTUALLY NEED TO in order to properly organise the event?
How much time in advance are these things planned?
AceBandage
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EBGames (especially that of Australia) probably hasn't seen anything that Nintendo is going to announce at E3. Outside of Nintendo, third parties and the people doing the work at E3, no one really knows.
legacyzero
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My bad, I saw Ghost Recon..Sho_Nuff82 said:
revolverjgw
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The PS3 list stops right before any mention of a Syphon Filter :_-(
Give me page 3
Give me page 3
Hot Coldman
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Blue Ninja said:
Far Cry 2 seems cool, I'm playing through it nowadays for the first time. Was only 2 quid 50 on Steam, so whatever. The free-roaming is enjoyable, even if the story seems like pap. I'd take another game like it.
AceBandage
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Majukun said:
Unless it includes Legend of Dragoon 2 and Startropics Cafe, it's worthless.
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