[Stallion Free]

On the other hand I think Vietnam has a pretty damn good optimization, but then again it was meant and coded on PC first.

It was better optimized because there was far less to destroy in the maps. There even fewer trees in a lot of them than the jungle maps in vanilla.

[Deadly Joker]

Why are you guys posting Xbox 360 screenshots in a PC thread?

[Nekrono]

It was better optimized because there was far less to destroy in the maps. There even fewer trees in a lot of them than the jungle maps in vanilla.

Ha I never noticed there's less trees in Vietnam maps, about the destruction... now that you mention it you are correct, I guess most people never played Vietnam for long, at least I know I didn't, shame.

[Nostalgia~4ever]

Why are you guys posting Xbox 360 screenshots in a PC thread?

huh?

[DTKT]

The low recoil info has me a bit worried. BC2 was fine and I dont want anything less than that.

Don't be Homefront :(

[Stallion Free]

huh?

He is implying that the lowest settings on the PC shots are the equivalent of what it will look like on Xbox.

[Nekrono]

Oh shi.... they just took the article down because of a warning from DICE, I guess they're "real" along with the info.

[Dina]

It's out in the wild tho.

[VibratingDonkey]

32 player stress test servers, how do they work?
Don't like the Pacman map. I prefer a usable one which provides me with visual information beyond "there are white lines here".
The open beta will probably be this tiny, narrow little map as well. Suppose it's the most complete one. Hope the beta will feature the Conquest version too.

I agree with you there. It's a frequent occurrence in BC2 to join a game and find out there's only 3 people playing,...

And then if you want to play that particular map you're screwed as there's a big chance you'll get reconnected to that same server again.

Another thing I don't understand why they got rid of is auto team balance. BC2 never rebalances the teams, not even between rounds. The only way for the teams to get balanced is if enough players join the server to fill in the gap. You can't manually switch teams, so when I notice this happening I just leave.

[Old Gimlet Eyes]

32 player stress test servers, how do they work? Don't like the Pacman map. I prefer a usable one which provides me with visual information beyond "there are white lines here". The open beta will probably be this tiny, narrow little map as well. Suppose it's the most complete one. Hope the beta will feature the Conquest version too. And then if you want to play that particular map you're screwed as there's a big chance you'll get reconnected to that same server again. Another thing I don't understand why they got rid of is auto team balance. BC2 never rebalances the teams, not even between rounds. The only way for the teams to get balanced is if enough players join the server to fill in the gap. You can't manually switch teams, so when I notice this happening I just leave.

Yes, it does. If you aren't in a squad and the other team needs more players, you will get auto balanced to the other team next round. If you are in a squad, you will always stay on the same team. You can manually switch teams as well, at least on 360. Send someone on the other team a friend request, join their game, then cancel the friends request.

[Keasar]

Yes, it does. If you aren't in a squad and the other team needs more players, you will get auto balanced to the other team next round. If you are in a squad, you will always stay on the same team. You can manually switch teams as well, at least on 360. Send someone on the other team a friend request, join their game, then cancel the friends request.

Sometimes me and my friends would get split as someone in our squad suddenly got thrown over to the other team.

[EuropeOG]

What Anti Aliasing will this game use?

In BC2 with 8xMSAA the environments were still jaggy, will BF3 use MLAA or something?

[RoboPlato]

What Anti Aliasing will this game use? In BC2 with 8xMSAA the environments were still jaggy, will BF3 use MLAA or something?

It'll probably have several AA options on PC but I've heard reports of both MLAA and FXAA on consoles. AA hasn't been in the Bad Company games at all so that alone will give it a huge IQ boost over them.

[Massa]

What Anti Aliasing will this game use? In BC2 with 8xMSAA the environments were still jaggy, will BF3 use MLAA or something?

BC2 looked jaggy because of the terrible art direction. Vietnam already looked much better even under the same configuration.

[EuropeOG]

I haven't tried Vietnam yet, but I will have to some time.

It'll probably have several AA options on PC but I've heard reports of both MLAA and FXAA on consoles. AA hasn't been in the Bad Company games at all so that alone will give it a huge IQ boost over them.

Well as long as it handles it better than BC2, because that was a bit jaggy even on PC.

[Arnie]

He is implying that the lowest settings on the PC shots are the equivalent of what it will look like on Xbox.

Yes but even then this isn't a PC thread so he just comes off looking like a colossal dick.

[KKRT00]

He covered his nick everywhere except here
http://www.abload.de/img/14obmzo0mou.png

Someone will be in troubles.

[iSurvivedTheOutage]

anyone happen to save those pics? I would really like to show them off to friends..crap I should have saved them..=-/

[Kyaw]

anyone happen to save those pics? I would really like to show them off to friends..crap I should have saved them..=-/

Go back a page dude. Nothing to show off, it was on lowest graphical settings.

[fabricated backlash]

I agree with you there. It's a frequent occurrence in BC2 to join a game and find out there's only 3 people playing, or that the map you requested to play was on the verge of changing. A server browser needs to be included, or at least the option to join games with the intention of playing a single map on repeat.

It's a disgusting trend that most games on consoles have chosen. I bet even Ghost Recon will not have a server browser anymore, allthough GRAW1 and 2 had one. And no private match option as well. The lack of these basic options alone makes me contemplate getting rid of my 360 and get a semi decent gaming PC running. I'm simply sick of this idea that console gamers are too idiotic to handle a server browser and need nothing more than a quick game option.

If only the loading times were faster. Shit takes forever to load. If it were as fast as Cod, it wouldn't be much of a problem, but sometimes you're stuck in loading screens for more than a minute.

[Church RvB]

Yes, it does. If you aren't in a squad and the other team needs more players, you will get auto balanced to the other team next round. If you are in a squad, you will always stay on the same team. You can manually switch teams as well, at least on 360. Send someone on the other team a friend request, join their game, then cancel the friends request.

Actually, you don;t even have to send a fr, just go to recent players. Sending a fr is a little faster though. Recent player list can sometimes take awhile to load.

[wwm0nkey]

Apparently this guy was running it at 510FPS with this set up

AMD PhenomII 965 @ 4.5Gghz 4x2048MB DDR3-2133Mhz 2x 80GB Intel X-25 SSD on an Areca RAID controller. 1x GTX460, little bit clocked.

Obviously its on low but still...holy crap.

EDIT: Picture

[IMG]http://i52.************/16jkfgm.png[/IMG]

[ClovingWestbrook]

Apparently this guy was running it at 510FPS with this set up Obviously its on low but still...holy crap.

I think you meant 51FPS and not 510FPS lol.

[wwm0nkey]

I think you meant 51FPS and not 510FPS lol.

look above :)

[Stallion Free]

I think you meant 51FPS and not 510FPS lol.

Fraps never lies.

[ClovingWestbrook]

look above :)

lol that doesn't even make sense. 510fps? lol wut?

[wwm0nkey]

lol that doesn't even make sense. 510fps? lol wut?

Frostbite 2 = God engine.

[Xamdou]

If he's getting 510 FPS why is he playing on low? Alpha build?

[wwm0nkey]

If he's getting 510 FPS why is he playing on low? Alpha build?

from what he said

The only options I could change where resolution, which I took 1680x1024. Graphic Detail: High

The graphic settings are bugged right now.

[NBtoaster]

BC2 looked jaggy because of the terrible art direction. Vietnam already looked much better even under the same configuration.

No it's because MSAA wasn't compatable with other effects the game uses. Maybe because of post processing cancelling it out, or not working against HDR, so a lot of surfaces didn't receive it.

DX10 and 11 have methods to correct this so hopefully they we wont just be stuck with post process AA.

[Stallion Free]

No it's because MSAA wasn't compatable with other effects the game uses. Maybe because of post processing cancelling it out, or not working against HDR, so a lot of surfaces didn't receive it. DX10 and 11 have methods to correct this so hopefully they we wont just be stuck with post process AA.

In DX 9 on Nvidia cards you can force Sparse-Grid Super Sampling relatively issue free (modern cards only).

[NBtoaster]

I should try that in BC2 but I think the framerate hit will be nasty on a single 570.

And I think it's been said that BF3 wont support DX9.

[mr_nothin]

In DX 9 on Nvidia cards you can force Sparse-Grid Super Sampling relatively issue free (modern cards only).

And it is so amazing. My jaw dropped when I played with 12xCSAA + 4xSGSSAA @ 1080p w/e some forced negative lod.
It's like playing a completely different game. 60 bullshots a second.

I should try that in BC2 but I think the framerate hit will be nasty on a single 570. And I think it's been said that BF3 wont support DX9.

That's the card I have and it's really smooth. 8xCSAA + 4xSGSS is pretty much 60fps for me except in huge gunfights (the ones with a lot of dust/smoke).

But beware though, it does kind of make online games lag (i've noticed). Not "fps lag"...it's more of a buffer. It's almost as bad as enabling vsync but w/o as much input lag.

[Stallion Free]

I should try that in BC2 but I think the framerate hit will be nasty on a single 570.

I was getting 30-60 fps depending on the area in singleplayer on just a 460. But yeah, they are dropping DX9 support so SGSSAA compatibilities are unlikely.

[NBtoaster]

I was getting 30-60 fps depending on the area in singleplayer on just a 460. But yeah, they are dropping DX9 support so SGSSAA compatibilities are unlikely.

I don't have BC2 installed right now, is there any way I can get it to work in MOH's mp to see it on the same engine?

[Stallion Free]

I don't have BC2 installed right now, is there any way I can get it to work in MOH's mp to see it on the same engine?

Yeah download Nvidia Inspector and use the AA compatibility: 0x004030C1

Try out 4x MSAA and 4x Sparse-Grid (together) and set the negative LOD bias to -1.5.

[NBtoaster]

Hmm..not working. Is this right?

http://i.imgur.com/HK5st.png

edit: nevermind I got it, forgot to switch to dx9. Mostly 40-60fps at 1080p.
The engine really shines with decent AA.

[Varth]

Didn't really follow development on the game, but reading about sniper sway and scope reflection piqued my interest: any place where I can get a good summary of the features and weapons that will be in the game?

[Patrick Bateman]

sniper sway and scope reflection

Wait, please explain.

[Nostalgia~4ever]

Destruction not going to be nerfed

Is it true BF3's destruction will be nerfed? A.K.A no better than BC2's?

I assure you, destruction is better than ever.

[YoungFa]

Wait, please explain.

The scope will reflect light, making it easier to spot snipers. And it also constantly moves a bit while aiming making it harder to hit the desired target.
I welcome both changes, but I'm much more excited to see the new surpression feature.

[Nostalgia~4ever]

DICE testing setup

repi Johan Andersson @GEN3RIC we have tri-SLI 580s and are building dual 590 and dual 6990 machines for further testing

[Heppell]

DICE testing setup

lol, whats the purpose of this?

[Keasar]

The scope will reflect light, making it easier to spot snipers. And it also constantly moves a bit while aiming making it harder to hit the desired target. I welcome both changes, but I'm much more excited to see the new surpression feature.

I am pretty sure that I read somewhere that holding Sprint or something like that will hold your breath and steady the scope, maybe I was mistaken?

[dragonelite]

lol, whats the purpose of this?

A lot you can guess some of the hardware they are using to test/debug stuff.

[Mr Solo Dolo]

DICE testing setup

Excuse me while i sell my kidneys.

[YoungFa]

I am pretty sure that I read somewhere that holding Sprint or something like that will hold your breath and steady the scope, maybe I was mistaken?

Haven't heard that. Sounds like pure peculation to me.

[Anton Sugar]

Haven't heard that. Sounds like pure peculation to me.

No, it's confirmed, it's just like MoH. Hold Shift to steady, hold it too long and you'll get jittery.

[YoungFa]

No, it's confirmed, it's just like MoH. Hold Shift to steady, hold it too long and you'll get jittery.

Hmm thats stupid, I hoped using bipod would be the only way to get rid of sway.

[SapientWolf]

lol, whats the purpose of this?

Maybe they play Crysis during their downtime.