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ChoklitReign
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(06-27-2011, 10:37 PM)
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The monster-size screens and killer rigs are making me dangerously envious. I have some questions but keep in mind I haven't played C2 nor do I own a gaming PC yet.

1. What are the new general (e.g. Low, Medium, High, Max) graphics settings?
2. Can you play on medium settings in DX11? How far up can you set individual settings like tessellation?
3. Does DX9 have new graphics settings?

I'm confused how to set the graphics now with so many variables. You can have DX9 or DX11, you can have at least 4 different general settings, and then you have half a dozen lesser settings that can have as many as 4 different settings. You can play C2 with dozens of different graphics settings! How the hell do I know which ones are right for my (future) computer? As a model, let's say that I want a computer with an i3 2100 CPU and a 6850 GPU and my monitor's resolution is 1600x900. How far can I push it?
How About No
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(06-27-2011, 10:38 PM)
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I'm disappointed, I thought the game was built for tessellation in mind (but it just got finished late) :/

Edit: Now I get to try for myself :D
Corky
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(06-27-2011, 10:39 PM)
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For those who are interested

Ran a fraps benchmark run with everything enabled/max/blabla @ 1080p, first 3 minutes of the submarine level, 65 avg. (29min/100 max)

2600k @4.5
SLI 560s @900
no SSD
-bakalhau-
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(06-27-2011, 10:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Csokis

Are you sure?

Guess I'm wrong... Im gonna test POM on DX9 then, try and see if putting the cvar on the console works.
DieH@rd
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(06-27-2011, 10:42 PM)
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Crysis 2 DX11 benchmark, lots of GPU's are covered
http://gamegpu.ru/Action-/-FPS-/-TPS...-test-GPU.html



Dreams-Visions
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(06-27-2011, 10:42 PM)
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Some shots from DX11 multiplayer. All on Extreme except for Objects, which are Ultra. 6950 2GB + i7 920. I haven't played with all the Extreme/Ultra settings to see if more can be enabled without a further performance hit.

25-45 fps on this map



35-55 fps on this map




25-45 fps on this map



25 min, ~70 max.
How About No
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(06-27-2011, 10:46 PM)
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That 5770 performance! :/

And now Crysis 2 stops working when I start...

Edit: Quitting RadeonPro helped. Stop answering my own questions dammit!
Last edited by How About No; 06-27-2011 at 10:50 PM.
subversus
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(06-27-2011, 10:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by EatChildren

Im guessing a placebo from the new particle effects, which are amazing. It really feels like you're ripping stuff apart.


oh yeah

subversus
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(06-27-2011, 10:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by DieH@rd

Crysis 2 DX11 benchmark, lots of GPU's are covered
http://gamegpu.ru/Action-/-FPS-/-TPS...-test-GPU.html

as expected 470 beats my card by 10 fps.

waiting for AMD update.
DieH@rd
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(06-27-2011, 10:49 PM)
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I sense that Digital Foundry guys are in ecstasy right now.
NBtoaster
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(06-27-2011, 10:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by Csokis

Here is the 3774 (all?!) console commands.

Doesn't seem to have a commands for contact shadows or tesselation.

Originally Posted by bloodforge

I haven't noticed the RLR, but I am close to the end of the game on my 2nd playthrough, not noticed anything using it.

Does the water use the RLR? Cause that still looks cubemapped to me.

I've only seen it affect small puddles, not 'real' water. Not visible on shiny buildings either. Not sure about cars.

http://i.imgur.com/2GYPY.jpg
Grinchy
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(06-27-2011, 10:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by dwebo

Uhh... what the hell is going on with that building?

It reminds me of the beginning of Back to the Future, where the Doc sends the dog back in time as a test. When it comes back, the outside of the car is all frozen over. It looks like those bricks.
How About No
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(06-27-2011, 10:51 PM)
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Cool, there's a Mods option on the main menu! :o

(I don't think the editor has been released yet though lol)
subversus
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(06-27-2011, 10:51 PM)
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so here's my video

6950 2 gig, i5-2500k

It's unedited, don't watch it for gameplay, it's hard to play well while mashing F10 button.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzk6CWp8RGQ
specialguy
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(06-27-2011, 10:52 PM)
Dang guys I have a 6870 coming in the mail Wednesday pretty much just for this game (I also considered a 560 ti or a 6950), (stepping up from my old 4890). I only have a Q6600, overclocked to 2.8ghz (could push it much higher but I'm a pussy about overclocking) am I screwed? Would like to run it at Ultra at 1080P.

This benchmark says a lot (560 ti). Nvidia money in play here for sure.



I know in most benchmarks before this game the 6870 hangs well with the 560 Ti. In fact in the most demanding games (Crysis 1, Metro 2033) where it actually matters, AMD 6950/6870 usually did better than the 560 ti.

So I guess what I'm asking is, do you think AMD will fix the 6870/6950 performance to equal or surpass the 560 ti with driver revisions, or should I refuse shipment on my 6870 coming in the mail and order a 560 Ti instead?

The other big game I bought the 6870 for is BF3, will the Ti crush AMD in BF3 as well due to Nvidia dollars?
DieH@rd
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(06-27-2011, 10:54 PM)
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Driver update from AMD is inevitable.
Trojan X
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(06-27-2011, 10:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by How About No

That 5770 performance! :/

And now Crysis 2 stops working when I start...

Edit: Quitting RadeonPro helped. Stop answering my own questions dammit!

I'm feeling you as I got the same graphics card. I guess you got it working with that Nvidia download 1.9 patch?
RedSwirl
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(06-27-2011, 10:56 PM)
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So no upgrade features at all for 32bit OS? And even if I do upgrade to Win7, how will my system handle it with just 3GB of RAM?

Also, is there a way to toggle tessellation by itself?
Stallion Free
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(06-27-2011, 10:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by DieH@rd

I sense that Digital Foundry guys are in ecstasy right now.

They do real PC comparisons?
Dreams-Visions
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(06-27-2011, 11:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by specialguy

So I guess what I'm asking is, do you think AMD will fix the 6870/6950 performance to equal or surpass the 560 ti with driver revisions,

of course.
How About No
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(06-27-2011, 11:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by Trojan X

I'm feeling you as I got the same graphics card. I guess you got it working with that Nvidia download 1.9 patch?

Yep. I actually just cleared the prologue, it seemed to run fine. I'm running it in 1360x768 though.
Clomipramine
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(06-27-2011, 11:00 PM)
Well, think it's time to add another 560ti.
Gram Negative Cocci
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(06-27-2011, 11:00 PM)

Originally Posted by DieH@rd

Crysis 2 DX11 benchmark, lots of GPU's are covered

Yay, 2007 Crysis-level performance (abysmal) is back!
Stallion Free
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(06-27-2011, 11:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by Gram Negative Cocci

Yay, 2007 Crysis-level performance (abysmal) is back!

Will the game get re-reviewed now?
Kyaw
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(06-27-2011, 11:05 PM)
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Holy crap, my 480 doesn't look too good on there... :(
Dreams-Visions
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(06-27-2011, 11:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by specialguy

This benchmark says a lot (560 ti). Nvidia money in play here for sure.

lol, dat 30% performance difference.
specialguy
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(06-27-2011, 11:07 PM)
Just as an example, from this review:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/P...assive/11.html
@1920X1200

Crysis
560 Ti=26.9
6870=29.6

(6870 beats 560 Ti)

Crysis 2 Vanilla
560 Ti=48.2
6870=45.1

(6870 very close to 560 Ti)

Now Crysis 2 after DX11 patch from the posted Russian review
560 Ti=32
6870=23


(560 Ti kills 6870)


Yeah something isn't right...guess I'll keep my 6870 and hope AMD fixes it in drivers.
burgerdog
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(06-27-2011, 11:07 PM)
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So if everything is set to ultra I should have the reflections and all those fancy effects on from the trailer/pics?

edit
I ask because I haven't noticed the reflections at all.
Dreams-Visions
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(06-27-2011, 11:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by burgerdog

So if everything is set to ultra I should have the reflections and all those fancy effects on from the trailer/pics?

edit
I ask because I haven't noticed the reflections at all.

yes. they stand out quite a bit on maps where there's water or a busted fire hydrant.
ChoklitReign
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(06-27-2011, 11:09 PM)
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Is the entire game in DX11 anti-AMD or is it just the benchmark? Can anyone answer my questions on top of the page?
Trojan X
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(06-27-2011, 11:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by How About No

Yep. I actually just cleared the prologue, it seemed to run fine. I'm running it in 1360x768 though.

Ok, I'll give it a shot.
Erudite
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(06-27-2011, 11:10 PM)
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Surprised how well my GTX 460 768mb, with a AMD Phenom 9650 @ 2.33ghz & 8 gb memory can run this on Ultra @ 1680x1050 with DX11 on. Indoors it runs perfectly, outdoors there's a noticeable drop in performance, but still playable nonetheless.
Valru
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(06-27-2011, 11:11 PM)
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High-Res Texture Pack + Ultra DX11 (Minus Ultra Water) @ 1680x1050 = 28-37FPS

4.5GHz 2500k
4GB DDR3 1600
Radeon HD5830 (Catalyst 11.4 Preview)
Kyaw
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(06-27-2011, 11:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Valru

High-Res Texture Pack + Ultra DX11 (Minus Ultra Water) @ 1680x1050 = 28-37FPS

4.5GHz 2500k
4GB DDR3 1600
Radeon HD5830 (Catalyst 11.4 Preview)

CPU dependant? hmmm
SapientWolf
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(06-27-2011, 11:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by specialguy

Dang guys I have a 6870 coming in the mail Wednesday pretty much just for this game (I also considered a 560 ti or a 6950), (stepping up from my old 4890). I only have a Q6600, overclocked to 2.8ghz (could push it much higher but I'm a pussy about overclocking) am I screwed? Would like to run it at Ultra at 1080P.

This benchmark says a lot (560 ti). Nvidia money in play here for sure.



I know in most benchmarks before this game the 6870 hangs well with the 560 Ti. In fact in the most demanding games (Crysis 1, Metro 2033) where it actually matters, AMD 6950/6870 usually did better than the 560 ti.

So I guess what I'm asking is, do you think AMD will fix the 6870/6950 performance to equal or surpass the 560 ti with driver revisions, or should I refuse shipment on my 6870 coming in the mail and order a 560 Ti instead?

The other big game I bought the 6870 for is BF3, will the Ti crush AMD in BF3 as well due to Nvidia dollars?

I wouldn't buy any card from the 6xxx series, to be honest. What a letdown after the stellar 58xx launch.
How About No
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(06-27-2011, 11:13 PM)
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Alright, 5770 doesn't run quite as well during the game proper :p

Hmm, GTX 590 is the best at the moment? How much does that co-*spits coffee*
RedSwirl
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(06-27-2011, 11:14 PM)
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Okay guys here I go:

32bit OS
Q6600
HD 6850
3GB RAM
1440 x 900

This system could pretty much max the game out on DX9. Wish me luck.
mrfolego
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(06-27-2011, 11:14 PM)
ugh I hate my 200kb connection

http://i56.************/4sh5kz.png
subversus
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(06-27-2011, 11:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by SapientWolf

I wouldn't buy any card from the 6xxx series, to be honest. What a letdown after the stellar 58xx launch.

It's not a letdown, it's dragon age 2 situation when DX11 was unplayable for Nvidia users because AMD helped with code.
Dreams-Visions
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(06-27-2011, 11:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by SapientWolf

I wouldn't buy any card from the 6xxx series, to be honest. What a letdown after the stellar 58xx launch.

hardly. they're fantastic for the money.

this situation is about how the gpu company helped in some way with the development of this patch and the game itself.
The Hermit
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(06-27-2011, 11:20 PM)
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Looking at this thread people will think Crysis 2 actually launched yesterday.

well that's kinda true
SapientWolf
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(06-27-2011, 11:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by subversus

It's not a letdown, it's dragon age 2 situation when DX11 was unplayable for Nvidia users because AMD helped with code.

I'm referring to the relatively small increase in performance that the 6xxx series had over its predecessors. It was nowhere near the jump between the 4xxx and 5xxx level of cards.
neoism
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(06-27-2011, 11:22 PM)
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:O holy shit... At first I really couldn't tell, but I played for about 15 minutes, and it looks alot better. I don't have faps or anything, but I wasn't getting 30 locked.... :( but it didn't go lower than 25... DX11/extreme at 1280x768
Smokey
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(06-27-2011, 11:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by Baiano19

Looking at this thread people will think Crysis 2 actually launched yesterday.

For me it pretty much has. I originally built the machine I have now for Crysis 2 before Crytek fucked up the PC launch. In fact as soon as this texture pack finishes I'm starting the game over (was about halfway through, have had it since launch).
DeMeester
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(06-27-2011, 11:22 PM)
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Yes, they finally fixed the white gun and yellow background issue on levels with rain. And I'm really digging the upgraded visuals btw :).
-bakalhau-
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(06-27-2011, 11:22 PM)
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My GTX285 pretty much on par with the 6970 on DX9? Wtf is this? Surely the 6970 performs better than that no...? It's a 2 generation gap.

Edit: Ok, so a 1.5 generation gap.
Lord-Audie
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(06-27-2011, 11:23 PM)
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Patching now
n0n44m
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(06-27-2011, 11:24 PM)
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*boots up Crysis 2 after patching dx11 & stuff

-dat grafixxx :o

*moves mouse, looks at framerate

-ouch

weirdly though its running @ 35~45 fps, but it feels slower somehow...
fake edit: it defaults to 50hz on my TV now so that may be the issue ... lemme search a fix for that before drawing any conclusions

(running single GTX480 @ 910 mhz, definitely will be getting the first next gen Nvidia card I guess D: )

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for the Nvidia/AMD "debate" ; AMD will probably release optimized drivers, I just hope Nvidia isn't so far ahead now because Crytek went for the HURRDURR amounts of Tesselation that current Radeons can't cope with as demonstrated in some other benchmarking/demo applications
EatChildren
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(06-27-2011, 11:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by Baiano19

Looking at this thread people will think Crysis 2 actually launched yesterday.

well that's kinda true

Vanilla Crysis 2 was kinda like Gandalf the Grey. Now we have Gandalf the White.
BlackDove
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(06-27-2011, 11:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by SapientWolf

I'm referring to the relatively small increase in performance that the 6xxx series had over its predecessors. It was nowhere near the jump between the 4xxx and 5xxx level of cards.

Yes, it wasn't meant to be. I suggest you wiki how hardware refreshes work. Nobody ever claimed the jump would be that big either.

Same goes for nVidia's cards. That's how the industry works.

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