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RurouniZel
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(07-13-2011, 03:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mpl90

01. / 00. [PS3] L.A. Noire (Rockstar Games) {2011.07.07}
02. / 00. [PS3] Infamous 2 (SCE) {2011.07.07}
03. / 00. [PS3] Earth Defense Force: Insect Armageddon (D3 Publisher) {2011.07.07}
04. / 00. [WII] Wii Play: Motion (Nintendo) {2011.07.07}
05. / 06. [PSP] Little Battler Xperience (Level 5) {2011.06.16}
06. / 05. [3DS] The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D {2011.06.16}
07. / 11. [WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo) {2009.06.25}
08. / 00. [360] Earth Defense Force: Insect Armageddon (D3 Publisher) {2011.07.07}
09. / 04. [WII] Goldeneye 007 (Nintendo) {2011.06.30}
10. / 02. [PS3] Super Street Fighter IV Arcade Edition {2011.06.30}

Holy hell,another week with LBX and Zeruda near each other...what the hell :lol.

*blinks*

*rubs eyes*

*looks again*

W-where am I? How long was I asleep for?
Mpl90
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(07-13-2011, 03:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Nirolak

Well, you have to compare it to preview years.

Look at the numbers in the OP, and then look at the numbers for:
Week 26, 2010: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=400607
Week 26, 2009: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=366915
Week 26, 2008: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=324183

They were all vastly better than this year.

Mmmh,I see that the only advantage for 2010 and 2009 is the first place (Inazuma 3 and Resort respectively,two of the most important games of the respective years,not like Abyss XD)...the other positions are pretty much the same as numbers (or even higher for 2011).
But week 26 of 2011 loses a bit in confront of 2008's one,not only because of two new releases at 140k.
I don't see the "vastly better" you are talking about.
And here I'm only talking about top10,because the numbers for 11-20 are absent for last years.
Mockingbird
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(07-13-2011, 03:30 PM)
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Wii Play: Motion to have mega legs?
Mpl90
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(07-13-2011, 03:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mockingbird

Wii Play: Motion to have mega legs?

Boh.
It seems to have some sort of legs in UK,where it started out of the top40,and now,at its third week,it was 32nd.
We'll see in Japan,where Resort is coming back.
Strange. The new Wii bundle seems to have an effect which increases every week...
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(07-13-2011, 03:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mpl90

Mmmh,I see that the only advantage for 2010 and 2009 is the first place (Inazuma 3 and Resort respectively,two of the most important games of the respective years,not like Abyss XD)...the other positions are pretty much the same as numbers (or even higher for 2011).
But week 26 of 2011 loses a bit in confront of 2008's one,not only because of two new releases at 140k.
I don't see the "vastly better" you are talking about.
And here I'm only talking about top10,because the numbers for 11-20 are absent for last years.

If we're just talking software, yes, but overall hardware is also a notable consideration.

Let me see if Garaph will render a chart of what I'm looking for.
Chris1964
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(07-13-2011, 03:34 PM)

Originally Posted by Mockingbird

Wii Play: Motion to have mega legs?

Rhythm Heaven will steal its thunder.
Mpl90
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(07-13-2011, 03:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by Nirolak

If we're just talking software, yes, but overall hardware is also a notable consideration.

Let me see if Garaph will render a chart of what I'm looking for.

I was talking about software,in fact :P
For the hardware, I think it is a combination of natural decrease in sales for consoles with many years of activity (even if Wii has seen a huge slowdown,too huge for its previous numbers) and the absence of astronomical numbers from 3DS which is doing good now,but not what almost all here expected even in its first year.
And also earthquake effects: I remember Iwata talked about a rise in numbers only in Fall...
MikeE21286
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(07-13-2011, 03:52 PM)
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by those numbers... no Starfox in top 10?
Mpl90
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(07-13-2011, 03:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by MikeE21286

by those numbers... no Starfox in top 10?

StarFox is coming tomorrow in Japan as the Red 3DS
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(07-13-2011, 03:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mpl90

I was talking about software,in fact :P
For the hardware, I think it is a combination of natural decrease in sales for consoles with many years of activity (even if Wii has seen a huge slowdown,too huge for its previous numbers) and the absence of astronomical numbers from 3DS which is doing good now,but not what almost all here expected even in its first year.
And also earthquake effects: I remember Iwata talked about a rise in numbers only in Fall...

I think that has more to do with them releasing Mario Kart and Super Mario in the Fall than the earthquake though. :P
Mpl90
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(07-13-2011, 03:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by Nirolak

I think that has more to do with them releasing Mario Kart and Super Mario in the Fall than the earthquake though. :P

Also! XD
But not only... in fact, he was talking about all the market, not only about the 3DS
Heavy
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(07-13-2011, 03:57 PM)
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Is a game like La Noire completely localized for the Japanese language? Did they go all the way and adjust the lip movement or just dub it over in Japanese? Or just use subtitles...
onken
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(07-13-2011, 03:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by Heavy

Is a game like La Noire completely localized for the Japanese language? Did they go all the way and adjust the lip movement or just dub it over in Japanese? Or just use subtitles...

The adverts have all the dialog in English so subtitled I guess.
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(07-13-2011, 04:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mpl90

Also! XD
But not only... in fact, he was talking about all the market, not only about the 3DS

True, but I think the software situation applies to most platforms.

The PS3 has FFXIII-2 and Xillia in the second half, the PSP has Agito, and the Wii has Zelda, which should all give at least modest bumps to their platforms.

We'll also be adding the Vita to the market and a price cut for the PS3 seems quite likely.

By comparison, there really hasn't been much driving sales in the first half of the year this year.

The PSP is the only system that is up for example, and that just came off the release of MHP3 in the December.

That combined with the fact that sales normally go up in the Fall anyway make Iwata's prediction quite safe.
Elios83
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(07-13-2011, 04:03 PM)

Originally Posted by Nirolak

True, but I think the software situation applies to most platforms.

The PS3 has FFXIII-2 and Xillia in the Fall, the PSP has Agito, and the Wii has Zelda, which should all give at least modest bumps to their platforms.

We'll also be adding the Vita to the market and a price cut in the PS3 seems quite likely.

By comparison, there really hasn't been much driving sales in the first half of the year this year.

The PSP is the only system that is up for example, and that just came off the release of MHP3 in the December.

PS3 should also get Ni No Kuni later this year, release date will be probably announced at TGS.
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(07-13-2011, 04:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by Elios83

PS3 should also get Ni No Kuni later this year, release date will be probably announced at TGS.

I'm highly cautious about making any assumptions that Level 5 will release a game on time. :lol
Mpl90
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(07-13-2011, 04:07 PM)
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Originally Posted by Nirolak

I'm highly cautious about making any assumptions that Level 5 will release a game on time. :lol

I fear Ninokuni will be released in 2012,because it is Level 5,indeed.
And also,this Christmas they have also IEGo.
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(07-13-2011, 04:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mpl90

I fear Ninokuni will be released in 2012,because it is Level 5,indeed.
And also,this Christmas they have also IEGo.

Yeah, I have to imagine that the priority goes to releasing Inazuma Eleven for them if something needs to be delayed.
Truth101
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(07-13-2011, 04:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Nirolak

I'm highly cautious about making any assumptions that Level 5 will release a game on time. :lol

Have we got any more information of the 3DS games Level-5 has in development, minus Layton?

I thought Fantasy Life was slated for a 2011 release in Japan at least. I doubt we'll get one of them though this year =C
Mpl90
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(07-13-2011, 04:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by Truth101

Have we got any more information of the 3DS games Level-5 has in development, minus Layton?

I thought Fantasy Life was slated for a 2011 release in Japan at least. I doubt we'll get one of them though this year =C

Inazuma Eleven Go is slated for this year
And so Kyabajoppi,which has changed in Cinderella Girls RPG.
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(07-13-2011, 04:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by Erethian

I'm going to assume he's talking about Japan. Cause expecting a handheld port of an old console Tales game to do better than any other handheld ports have in the past, is the sort of thing Namco would do.

Fair enough :) It might very well be that he was only talking about the japanese sales indeed.


Originally Posted by Mockingbird

Wii Play: Motion to have mega legs?

I'm curious on how well this game will sell compared to the first Wii Play game. Maybe Wii Play: Motion's sales will tell something about how active the Wii market is compared to before.
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(07-13-2011, 04:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mpl90

Inazuma Eleven Go is slated for this year
And so Kyabajoppi,which has changed in Cinderella Girls RPG.

I was hoping one of the new IPs would be released this year, there is still hope though.
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(07-13-2011, 05:04 PM)
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PSP 26,373
3DS 22,943
PS3 22,900
Wii 13,068
DSi LL 4,811
DSi 4,725
Xbox 360 2,016
PS2 1,309
DS Lite 56
PSP go 34

LA Noire PS3 - 58k
360 - 13k
Infamous 2 - 33k
EDF PS3 - 30k
360 - 18k
Wii Play Motion - 17k


http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20110713057/
BadWolf
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(07-13-2011, 05:05 PM)
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Awww, PS3 almost topped 3DS.

PSP still kicking butt.
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(07-13-2011, 05:07 PM)
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3DS 22,943
PS3 22,900

Holy hell
Truth101
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(07-13-2011, 05:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by Spiegel

PSP 26,373
3DS 22,943
PS3 22,900
Wii 13,068
DSi LL 4,811
DSi 4,725
Xbox 360 2,016
PS2 1,309
DS Lite 56
PSP go 34

LA Noire PS3 - 58k
360 - 13k
Infamous 2 - 33k
EDF PS3 - 30k
360 - 18k
Wii Play Motion - 17k


http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20110713057/

I hope the 3DS will hit it's stride when the big hitters start releasing this fall/holiday season.
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(07-13-2011, 05:08 PM)
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Hmm, it seems Tales has broken with Eternia's sales.

Eternia (PSP):
Week 1: 74,630
Week 2: 30,144

Abyss (3DS):
Week 1: 74,173
Week 2: 10,034
velvet_nitemare
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(07-13-2011, 05:09 PM)
LA Noire and Infamous bumping PS3 sales? Who knew.
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(07-13-2011, 05:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by Spiegel

PSP 26,373
3DS 22,943
PS3 22,900
Wii 13,068
DSi LL 4,811
DSi 4,725
Xbox 360 2,016
PS2 1,309
DS Lite 56
PSP go 34

LA Noire PS3 - 58k
360 - 13k
Infamous 2 - 33k
EDF PS3 - 30k
360 - 18k
Wii Play Motion - 17k


http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20110713057/

Wow. I didn't think 3DS would drop that much. Nintendo needs to cut that price before they end up with another Gamecube. It's clear that the market willing to buy it at it's current price is saturated completely. It might already be too late, though, with Vita looming.
Last edited by BurntPork; 07-13-2011 at 05:13 PM.
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(07-13-2011, 05:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mpl90

01. / 00. [PS3] L.A. Noire (Rockstar Games) {2011.07.07}
02. / 00. [PS3] Infamous 2 (SCE) {2011.07.07}
03. / 00. [PS3] Earth Defense Force: Insect Armageddon (D3 Publisher) {2011.07.07}
04. / 00. [WII] Wii Play: Motion (Nintendo) {2011.07.07}
05. / 06. [PSP] Little Battler Xperience (Level 5) {2011.06.16}
06. / 05. [3DS] The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D {2011.06.16}
07. / 11. [WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo) {2009.06.25}
08. / 00. [360] Earth Defense Force: Insect Armageddon (D3 Publisher) {2011.07.07}
09. / 04. [WII] Goldeneye 007 (Nintendo) {2011.06.30}
10. / 02. [PS3] Super Street Fighter IV Arcade Edition {2011.06.30}

Holy hell,another week with LBX and Zeruda near each other...what the hell :lol.

Are we in Japan? Really?
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(07-13-2011, 05:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by BurntPork

Wow. I didn't think 3DS would drop that much. Nintendo needs to cut that price before they end up with another Gamecube. It might already be too late, though, with Vita looming...

If only you were talking about software output. Yummy.
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(07-13-2011, 05:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by Nirolak

Hmm, it seems Tales has broken with Eternia's sales.

Eternia (PSP):
Week 1: 74,630
Week 2: 30,144

Abyss (3DS):
Week 1: 74,173
Week 2: 10,034


That's mixing trackers

M-C:
Eternia (PSP):
Week 1: 80.650
Week 2: 30,489

Abyss (3DS):
Week 1: 74,173
Week 2: 10,034
Nirolak
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(07-13-2011, 05:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by Spiegel

That's mixing trackers

M-C:
Eternia (PSP):
Week 1: 80.650
Week 2: 30,489

Abyss (3DS):
Week 1: 74,173
Week 2: 10,034

My bad, I forgot Garaph was Famitsu.
mentalfloss
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(07-13-2011, 05:15 PM)

Originally Posted by BurntPork

Wow. I didn't think 3DS would drop that much. Nintendo needs to cut that price before they end up with another Gamecube.

The system will need a price drop after christmas, but it's not going to be another Gamecube.
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(07-13-2011, 05:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by BurntPork

Wow. I didn't think 3DS would drop that much. Nintendo needs to cut that price before they end up with another Gamecube. It's clear that the market willing to buy it at it's current price is saturated completely. It might already be too late, though, with Vita looming.

OMG... Not this again.

I think 3DS is enjoying good sales with its current line-up (ports and lazy efforts), as soon as we get to winter/holiday season we will know if its in need of a price cut or not.
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(07-13-2011, 05:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mpl90

StarFox is coming tomorrow in Japan as the Red 3DS

ahhh, ok.

Predictions on the previous page made me think it was earlier than this.
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(07-13-2011, 05:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by Nirolak

Hmm, it seems Tales has broken with Eternia's sales.

Eternia (PSP):
Week 1: 74,630
Week 2: 30,144

Abyss (3DS):
Week 1: 74,173
Week 2: 10,034

How many PSP unites were out in the wild when Eternia hit, Japan of course?
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(07-13-2011, 05:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by BurntPork

Wow. I didn't think 3DS would drop that much. Nintendo needs to cut that price before they end up with another Gamecube. It's clear that the market willing to buy it at it's current price is saturated completely. It might already be too late, though, with Vita looming.

Lowering the price would be the best way to create "another GameCube". Price is not the 3DSī primary problem. It is software, as has been proven by past software releases.
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(07-13-2011, 05:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sammy Samusu

OMG... Not this again.

I think 3DS is enjoying good sales with its current line-up (ports and lazy efforts), as soon as we get to winter/holiday season we will know if its in need of a price cut or not.

It should have a price cut before Vita releases at the latest. Lazy efforts? Reminds me of the PS3 Lazy Devs excuse.
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(07-13-2011, 05:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by Truth101

How many PSP unites were out in the wild when Eternia hit, Japan of course?

972,421

Week 13
http://garaph.info/linecompare.php?sum=1&html=2&sys[0]=PSP&date[0]=2004-12-06+/
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(07-13-2011, 05:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by Truth101

How many PSP unites were out in the wild when Eternia hit, Japan of course?

I don't know how to look up the exact number, but this many if we count the second week I think.



Edit:

Nevermind, beaten by a better answer.
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(07-13-2011, 05:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by Spiegel

PSP 26,373
3DS 22,943
PS3 22,900
Wii 13,068
DSi LL 4,811
DSi 4,725
Xbox 360 2,016
PS2 1,309
DS Lite 56
PSP go 34

LA Noire PS3 - 58k
360 - 13k
Infamous 2 - 33k
EDF PS3 - 30k
360 - 18k
Wii Play Motion - 17k


http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20110713057/

The PSP is doing great without any significant software release. Holly crap the PS3 almost sold as much as the 3DS.
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(07-13-2011, 05:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by Spiegel

972,421

Week 13
http://garaph.info/linecompare.php?sum=1&html=2&sys[0]=PSP&date[0]=2004-12-06+/

Ah, thanks.

If anyone knows. How was the marketing for Eternia compared to Abyss? Has the Tale brand been on decline any at all lately?

Sorry I'd look for myself, but I'm stuck at work right now.



It still amazes me at how the PSP was practically dead before MH3P hit.

Edit::

Thanks for your post too Nirolak.
allan-bh
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(07-13-2011, 05:28 PM)
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3DS drop is normal. Red color is coming.
TheNatural
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(07-13-2011, 05:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by BurntPork

Wow. I didn't think 3DS would drop that much. Nintendo needs to cut that price before they end up with another Gamecube. It's clear that the market willing to buy it at it's current price is saturated completely. It might already be too late, though, with Vita looming.

It's stupid to cut the price of something a few months after launch, you only cut the price of something if you want to make an impact around a big release or the holidays. If they do, it would be in the holiday, and they would do a bundle before they cut the price. Not everything is about sales.
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(07-13-2011, 05:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by TheBranca18

Lazy efforts? Reminds me of the PS3 Lazy Devs excuse.

Except it's not an excuse. :(

Originally Posted by allan-bh

3DS drop is normal. Red color is coming.

Let them know!
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(07-13-2011, 05:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by Truth101

Ah, thanks.

If anyone knows. How was the marketing for Eternia compared to Abyss? Has the Tale brand been on decline any at all lately?

Sorry I'd look for myself, but I'm stuck at work right now.



It still amazes me at how the PSP was practically dead before MH3P hit.

Edit::

Thanks for your post too Nirolak.

We actually have a handy graph depicting this.



The Eternia comparison is interesting though because Namco expected 250,000 units sold, and that's exactly where Eternia ended up after its initial release plus its budget re-release.

It's spurred speculation that this is why they expected Abyss to sell that much.
Mpl90
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(07-13-2011, 05:36 PM)
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As said by allan-bn,3DS dropped because of the new color this week.
However,I have to see what happened in the past at various consoles the week before the release of a new color.
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(07-13-2011, 05:41 PM)
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Abyss will be lucky to sell 150k.
Lord_Byron28
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(07-13-2011, 05:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by BurntPork

Wow. I didn't think 3DS would drop that much. Nintendo needs to cut that price before they end up with another Gamecube. It's clear that the market willing to buy it at it's current price is saturated completely. It might already be too late, though, with Vita looming.

I really don't see what exactly Vita is doing to encourage people to pay $250 that 3DS won't be doing come this fall in terms of software. Sure Vita is the better hardware deal but shown by Wii and DS consumers, people don't care about that as much as the games.

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