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Kyaw
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(07-19-2011, 02:04 AM)
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That's gonna be good. We'll see how it drives. Crazy how they said the investment can go to $1000.
Agent Icebeezy
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(07-19-2011, 02:08 AM)
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This thread is fucking amazing.
papersleeves
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(07-19-2011, 02:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by mclaren777

Another look at the Lotus 49 from CARS, all 250k polygons of it.

And apparently Slightly Mad Studios will be launching the project's website in a few weeks.



Gawd dayum....

If we're getting this, in real time, while racing our way to the top, then I'm in. I'm just in, dude.
Kyaw
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(07-19-2011, 02:10 AM)
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Somehow, i just don't think it will looking like that real time.

Those reflections look way too realistic for real time :(

Dunno though, it might look that good but will need to be toned down for competitive online play.
Technosteve
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(07-19-2011, 02:56 AM)
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http://vimeo.com/17687641

iracing doc. Pretty impressive if you can learn all that from iracing and then do it on a real track
fresquito
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(07-19-2011, 02:57 AM)
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I hope optimization doesn't suck this time. NFS:Shift 2 ran like shit for what it was.
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(07-19-2011, 02:59 AM)
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"Those reflections look way too realistic for real time :("


PC, mang. DX11 renderer. It's not that far fetched.
Arucardo
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(07-19-2011, 02:59 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kyaw

Somehow, i just don't think it will looking like that real time.

Those reflections look way too realistic for real time :(

Dunno though, it might look that good but will need to be toned down for competitive online play.

The model seen in the previews is made up of around 250.000 polygons and will run in-game in this kind of quality, thanks to DirectX 11 and the complexity of the used shaders as SMS is aiming to set a new benchmark in visual quality. Aside from pushing the limits in terms of graphics, the studio is also putting equal efforts into the input & physics department.

Who knows, it just might look like that :) .
Shawsie64
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(07-19-2011, 03:54 AM)
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Great thread, thanks for putting it together :)

Man I miss RBR might have to re-install it tonight.. Never got round to trying Netkar but it looks great Ill buy on pay day
mblitek
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(07-19-2011, 04:03 AM)
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First off, thanks very much for the post outlining all the different racing sims available. from your list I say I knew about 65% of them but I haven't bothered getting into them as I didn't know the strengths and weaknesses of each one. But it definitely looks like I'll have to get R.B.R. as soon as possible :)

also, as a quadriplegic who develops my own controller and find it very frustrating when games don't come with re mappable buttons a.k.a. Need for Speed: Shift, I think I will definitely become an investor for C.A.R.S. Thus, this way I will be able to influence my opinion on accessibility and this importance is not just for people with disabilities but everyone has their own preference, especially for racing Sims.

Looks like I will definitely be downloading some of the demos in seeing which ones I like best!

Thanks again!
jiggles
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(07-19-2011, 04:06 AM)
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I have an rFactor disc floating around that I got with my graphics card. Wonder is it the full game. I must dig it out, I had no idea what it was when I put it away.

Edit: Actually, I think it came with my G25.
opticalmace
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(07-19-2011, 04:06 AM)
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I have a logitech driving force gt. Would it work with most of these games?
mclaren777
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(07-19-2011, 04:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by opticalmace

I have a logitech driving force gt. Would it work with most of these games?

Yep, probably all of them. Just make sure to install the Logitech drivers before plugging it in.
Mister Zimbu
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(07-19-2011, 04:28 AM)
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I really like iRacing but you really don't get a whole lot of value for the base $15/mo. Your $15/mo. basically gets you a demo version of the game- two racing series consisting of one car and two tracks each.

If you want to go beyond that, you're forced to buy a lot of high-priced DLC. The next series up in the road series only needs one $15 track, but the series after that will require you to fork over about $120 to purchase the DLC needed to compete in the entire thing.

The racing itself is great and well-moderated though.
Grayman
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(07-19-2011, 04:47 AM)
I really need to fix my wheel or buy a new one. The accelerator input is glitchy, I temporarily fixed it by opening the pedals up cleaning them and crimping the connections tight but it has gone sour again.

I have played a lot of the games from the first post in demo or free form. Racer had some non race environments that were really enjoyable to drive around. I downloaded a series of mountain roads with a few intersections once. Do any of the harder sims have that available as a mod?

I was thinking about buying the Retro expansion for RACE07 but have held off for wheel repair and also thinking that I could get rFactor or the sequel and get more for my buck.
Wolf Akela
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(07-19-2011, 04:57 AM)
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Great topic, I'll try some demos.
AcridMeat
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(07-19-2011, 05:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by Grayman

I really need to fix my wheel or buy a new one. The accelerator input is glitchy, I temporarily fixed it by opening the pedals up cleaning them and crimping the connections tight but it has gone sour again.

I have played a lot of the games from the first post in demo or free form. Racer had some non race environments that were really enjoyable to drive around. I downloaded a series of mountain roads with a few intersections once. Do any of the harder sims have that available as a mod?

I was thinking about buying the Retro expansion for RACE07 but have held off for wheel repair and also thinking that I could get rFactor or the sequel and get more for my buck.

The CSL is a god damn sex machine. That is all.

Thanks for the topic McLaren.
phosphor112
(07-19-2011, 05:45 AM)
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RBR is the best sim of all time. It's just so fun and challenging.

Anyway, if any Forza or GT fan refuses to acknowledge these guys as the top dogs, they are not sim fans.

Though, I shall thank GT for getting me interested into sims in the first place... Damn I need to reinstall RBR but I don't feel like getting my wheel away from my PS3 lol.
mclaren777
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(07-19-2011, 06:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by Grayman

I really need to fix my wheel or buy a new one. The accelerator input is glitchy, I temporarily fixed it by opening the pedals up cleaning them and crimping the connections tight but it has gone sour again.

Let me guess: you have an old Logitech DFP?


Originally Posted by Grayman

I have played a lot of the games from the first post in demo or free form. Racer had some non race environments that were really enjoyable to drive around. I downloaded a series of mountain roads with a few intersections once. Do any of the harder sims have that available as a mod?

rFactor has various hillclimbs (that might be what you're describing) and also long events like the Targa Florio (72 km) and the Cannonball Run (140km).

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Norante
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(07-19-2011, 06:16 AM)
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Excellent work!

Made me itch to set up the wheel for some RBR sessions.
Grayman
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(07-19-2011, 06:16 AM)

Originally Posted by mclaren777

Let me guess: you have an old Logitech DFP?

yep. I used a guide for the brake issue to fix it for a few weeks last time. At zero throttle it bounces input randomly between maybe 10-20% using GT5/prologue hud. Only rarely is it enough to register as a click on a ps3. While using partial throttle it has a similar bouncing effect. Same issue on PC of course but it is not as directly visible in game unless the car is in neutral.

It was a great wheel for years before this happened and I was not able to justify upgrading to a clutch and h-shift setup. Actually it made me completely write off the idea of buying a 360 it was such a nice wheel.

Originally Posted by mclaren777

rFactor has various hillclimbs (that might be what you're describing) and also long events like the Targa Florio (72 km) and the Cannonball Run (140km).

Those would be fun but the map I am thinking of was like a small open world. I could cruise around and get a t intersection with useful road in each direction.

Does Race07/GTREvo have hill climb tracks as a mod?
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mclaren777
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(07-19-2011, 06:23 AM)
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@Grayman

I had the brake issue back in the day on my DFP and Logitech shipped me a replacement (out of warranty) for free. I could probably send you my defective one if you wanted to try fixing it.

And yes, Race 07 just got some new DLC called the Retro Pack that includes a 6.1km hillclimb.

Included Cars
1968 Volvo Amazon
1972 Volvo P1800 ES
1971 BMW 2002
1968 Mini Cooper S
1971 Opel Commodore GS 3001
1973 BMW 3.0 CSL
1974 Chevrolet Corvette
1970 Chevrolet Camaro

Included Tracks
Poznan
Hillclimb Track

The DLC sells for €5 on RaceRoom.net & Steam and it's available for RACE07, GTR Evolution, Race On, and STCC – The Game.

Hillclimb Video
Official Trailer
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Grayman
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(07-19-2011, 06:32 AM)

Originally Posted by mclaren777

@Grayman

I had the brake issue back in the day on my DFP and Logitech shipped me a replacement (out of warranty) for free.

I could probably send you my defective one if you wanted to try fixing it.

After I pop it open, wednesday maybe I will see if spare parts would possibly help. It was a very simple electrical problem to repair temporarily.
gutterboy44
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(07-19-2011, 07:08 AM)
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Awesome thread. Subscribed.

Reinstalling RBR and GPL ASAP!
isamu
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(07-19-2011, 01:01 PM)

Originally Posted by mclaren777

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Hey Mac how would you rate rfactor's Targa Florio compared to the GPL version? Also, how many times have you completed a lap there?
Arucardo
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(07-19-2011, 01:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by isamu

Hey Mac how would you rate rfactor's Targa Florio compared to the GPL version? Also, how many times have you completed a lap there?

I thought it was just the GPL version converted to rF.
SmokyDave
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(07-19-2011, 01:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by DennisK4

Awesome thread.

Bookmarked.

This.

Also, the new Retro pack for Race07 is awesome. Some great car choices in there and a nicely designed hillclimb to thrash 'em on.
mclaren777
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(07-19-2011, 04:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by isamu

Hey Mac how would you rate rfactor's Targa Florio compared to the GPL version?

The rFactor version is a modernization of the GPL version with new textures, shaders, etc.


"Whether or not you're into historic racing, the Targa Florio is a track that every rFactor user has to experience at least once! Not just because of the sheer length of the track or the sheer amount of work that has gone into making the virtual version but to experience a stunning piece of motorsport history (almost) first hand." -- Source
spicy cho
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(07-19-2011, 04:18 PM)
Excellent thread, this really makes me want to race. Can't wait for rFactor 2!
1-D_FTW
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(07-19-2011, 04:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by spicy cho

Excellent thread, this really makes me want to race. Can't wait for rFactor 2!

This is exactly what I was thinking when I saw the latest Lotus screenshot from CARS. How I'd love to slip into that baby and race it for real. On a wide open airport runway where the risk of death was at least somewhat reduced. How much trouble could I really get into without turns? Or trees? Right?
Leunam
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(07-19-2011, 04:31 PM)
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Great thread mclaren. I may try out rfactor sometime soon once things settle down.
Dilly
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(07-19-2011, 04:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by 1-D_FTW

This is exactly what I was thinking when I saw the latest Lotus screenshot from CARS. How I'd love to slip into that baby and race it for real. On a wide open airport runway where the risk of death was at least somewhat reduced. How much trouble could I really get into without turns? Or trees? Right?

Then you're missing out on the fun!
Wax Free Vanilla
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(07-19-2011, 05:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by mclaren777

Another look at the Lotus 49 from CARS, all 250k polygons of it.

And apparently Slightly Mad Studios will be launching the project's website in a few weeks.




sweet jesus,


i wonder if this and other classic grand prix cars they're sitting on are from the aborted ferrari project?


patchday
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(07-19-2011, 05:09 PM)

Originally Posted by mclaren777

I certainly wouldn't call those sims, not even with community-made realism mods.

Shift 2 is pretty darn close. I play sims all the time (iRacing, rFactor, GTR2) with a wheel and the only thing S2U is missing is pits and endurances. Granted, I could care less for 24 hr long Endurances

Besides, C.A.R.S. is made by the same dev (SMS) & its on the list :D
R1CHO
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(07-19-2011, 05:15 PM)
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Thanks mclaren for the thread. Didnt know anything about that slightly mad project, sounds awesome.
Snkfanatic
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(07-19-2011, 05:16 PM)
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Awesome thread, I am going to try that rally game for sure.
Orgun
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(07-19-2011, 05:36 PM)
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iRacing is the best racing sim I've played, and the community is great. It's just a shame it's so expensive :(
Apex
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(07-19-2011, 06:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by mclaren777

They claim it will look like that in-game.

Probably same assets but no where that quality, mainly because those are raytraced renders.

Good thread.
Krauser Kat
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(07-19-2011, 07:42 PM)
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Great info.
mclaren777
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(07-19-2011, 07:50 PM)
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I want to keep major rFactor and iRacing news in their respective threads, but you guys might want to check out today's update...

rFactor Thread

Kyaw
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(07-19-2011, 07:50 PM)
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Those videos of iRacing in the OP are amazing.
zephervack
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(07-19-2011, 07:56 PM)
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I remember reading the Forum posts about the idea of a community funded project, pretty crazy that they are actually going through with it.

I really hope it is successful, who knows maybe that will be the future of gaming. Someone should make a thread about it for discussion, i find it really interesting.
Lucius86
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(07-19-2011, 08:34 PM)
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I think when rFactor 2 comes out I am going to give it a go. Always wondered how fast I would be in a simulation environment compared to 'games'.
Orgun
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(07-19-2011, 08:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lucius86

I think when rFactor 2 comes out I am going to give it a go. Always wondered how fast I would be in a simulation environment compared to 'games'.

I would beat ya :P
Dilly
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(07-19-2011, 08:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lucius86

I think when rFactor 2 comes out I am going to give it a go. Always wondered how fast I would be in a simulation environment compared to 'games'.

I'd say pretty good, we were matched in speed during the league matches I played with you guys and I've been playing race sims since I was 13.

Offcourse, I'm nowhere near as fast as the real pro's, those guys are way too good.

Definately looking forward to rFactor 2.
Satanic Saint
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(07-19-2011, 08:56 PM)
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You missed F1 Challenge 99-02.
Sethos
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(07-19-2011, 09:00 PM)
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Think I might get back into racing and get a proper wheel when rFactor 2 hits.
mclaren777
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(07-19-2011, 10:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by Satanic Saint

You missed F1 Challenge 99-02.

That was made by the creators of rFactor and all of that content has been ported over (plus better versions of all that content).
AcridMeat
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(07-20-2011, 08:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by SmokyDave

This.

Also, the new Retro pack for Race07 is awesome. Some great car choices in there and a nicely designed hillclimb to thrash 'em on.

I need more people to play Race 07 with. Smoky what's your steam sir?
mclaren777
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(07-20-2011, 05:25 PM)
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gRally just tweeted this...

After a big update (90 files modified!) the gRally physics engine can run at 3000Hz!

Most racing games run at roughly 360Hz. I wonder why they decided to shot for the moon.

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