[Jasoco]

I used to swipe with three fingers to go forward and back in Chrome. Now I move between desktops. Do I need to disable that?

In System Preferences under Trackpad on the More Gestures tab make sure to change it to Four fingers for "Switch between Fullscreen Apps".

God, natural scrolling blows.

No it doesn't. It's natural. But you can turn it off if you're one of those people who can't adjust to change.

Anyone know if you can rename spaces, or am i stuck with these default "Desktop #" names?

Sadly yes. No renaming.

Oh god, did they change all the scroll gestures to match iOS? This is going to take some getting used to.

Took me literally 5 minutes. But then again, I own an iPad so it was second nature.

I really want to upgrade... If anyone else has the Adobe CS3 suite and upgraded let me know how things work. I'm worried things would go bonkers if I did that, and that would be terribad, since it's my job to use those things now.

Photoshop works PERFECT. The only thing is you might need to install Java Runtime, which the OS will tell you and do for you the first time you launch. So launch it right away and get it out of the way when you install.

Anybody using BetterTouchTool? For some reason 3 finger swipe up and down seem to crash whatever application I am currently focused on. I used to have it switch between tabs in Chrome, but now it just crashes as soon as I swipe.

Weird. BTT works fine for me. No crashes or anything yet. I use three left and right for back and forth and three up and down for Home and End.

It's obvious that Apple wants to leave mice behind. They pretty much care only about consumers now, not pro customers (they've admitted as much). CUT OUT Stuff about LaunchPad

I love LaunchPad. I also love Lamp. But mostly LaunchPad. And not McQuack. Though he's cool too. Anyway, I already have customized the hell out of my LaunchPad. But my one problem is the fucking "Windows 7 Applications" folder that Parallels INSISTS on recreating every fucking time I boot up Windows and I can't figure out how to disable that option. If it IS an option. Fucking folder. I won't use it! I don't WANT IT, PARALLELS!

Now that Spaces are gone, how do I assign certain programs to certain spaces? And is there anyway to drag programs between spaces like before? I used to be able to drag programs say, from space 1 to space 4 by dragging the program to the bottom of space 1. Now I can only drag left and right and wait as it scrolls...

Right-click an App in the Dock and under "Options" is some options for assigning the app to spaces. "All Spaces", "This Space" or "None".

Really pissed apple made it more difficult to do a clean install. Let me do what the fuck I want to do with my os without making me jump through hoops. Burning my own bootable DVD...fuck off.

You can do a clean install by downloading the installer again. It lets you reboot into the installer and reformat your HD if you want to. They didn't make it more difficult. They made it EASIER. I made sure to move the installer elsewhere (An external drive) so it couldn't delete it. Plus I didn't install from it, since I made a bootable hard drive partition with the install on it.

CCC backing up my Snow Leopard install now. Are people clean installing or upgrading? Pros/Cons for simply upgrading? After all, it would save me several hours of work if I can just upgrade...

Clean install and Migrate. I did an Upgrade with DP1 and it made everything slow like something was fucked up. So I just reformat and install then migrate my stuff from my backup drive. Worked as if I never left in the first place. Hours? How much stuff are you migrating? I only have about 55GB on my drive and it took 30 minutes to migrate from a slow external HDD to the internal SSD.

Mission Control is messing with my gestures. I liked the old ones. :( I wonder if there is a way to get a few of them back. The main missed one is 4-finger down swipe for Desktop. Changes! I can do 3-finger spread to get Desktop, but it feels weird. I usually end up zooming out or something.

Really? It feels natural to me. And works every time which rocks because it was buggy in DP1. Make sure you're not trying too hard. Simply brush the trackpad starting with the fingers together and spreading them fast. And go the other way to open LaunchPad. It's all very natural. I love it.

Are they going to update Chrome so it has the fluid back a page motion like in the current Safari?

They can't even get Side Tabs, a feature that works FINE in Windows and Linux and on ChromeOS, but is fucked up in OS X. Do we really expect them to take advantage of an OS' features so fast? I want to believe, but unless someone lights a fire under the Mac developer's asses, we're stuck with old style Chrome for a long time. I just use three finger left and right for Command+[ and Command+] in all apps since most apps use that for Back and Forward as a universal combination.

[Dreams-Visions]

Hmmm...

I'd LOVE to be able to reverse the swipe direction of switching spaces. Right now, when you swipe right to left, the screen moves left to right. Doesn't seem right.

Possible to change yet?

[Konig94]

Hmmm... I'd LOVE to be able to reverse the swipe direction of switching spaces. Right now, when you swipe right to left, the screen moves left to right. Doesn't seem right. Possible to change yet?

Turn off natural scrolling.

[dream]

I'm actually okay with natural scrolling now. I think I'll probably end up preferring it in a day or 2.

It feels so fucked when I plug in a mouse and use the scroll wheel, though. Especially since I usually have my Mac next to my Windows machine.

[rhfb]

Still sad that there isn't a quad core + dedicated gpu option for the mini. Saves me money in the long run though :/ $30 for lion vs $1500 for a pimped out mini w/ 8 or 16 GB ram and a third party ssd. Now to wait for the pro refresh ah who am I kidding, the pros are waaaaaaay too much, hackintosh time I guess

[Topher]

Conundrum. Chrome page back/forth gestures vs Lion desktop switching.

[LyleLanley]

Conundrum. Chrome page back/forth gestures vs Lion desktop switching.

3 fingers for chrome 4 for desktop.

[Treefingers]

The 'natural' scrolling is really not natural at all imo. It works perfectly on a touchscreen where you physically touch the content. With a trackpad the concept just falls apart. For me at least.

[aparisi2274]

Ok I fgured out the switching between apps issue I was having.

It seems that even though my apps were taking up my entire screen, they were not in FULL SCREEN mode. So when I put iCal into full screen mode, and I swiped on my mouse it transitioned over to iTunes for me.

I like that feature, but if I put Chrome into Full Screen mode, it looks like crap...

[Topher]

3 fingers for chrome 4 for desktop.

Are you using magic mouse or trackpad?

[LyleLanley]

Are you using magic mouse or trackpad?

Trackpad, although I've changed my gestures yet again. 3 fingers to change the song on iTunes, 4 fingers to scroll through desktops/apps and a click of the trackpad on either of the bottom corners to go back/forth in chrome.

[quadriplegicjon]

Conundrum. Chrome page back/forth gestures vs Lion desktop switching.

Do you guys use back and forth that much? I rarely use it.

Ok I fgured out the switching between apps issue I was having. It seems that even though my apps were taking up my entire screen, they were not in FULL SCREEN mode. So when I put iCal into full screen mode, and I swiped on my mouse it transitioned over to iTunes for me. I like that feature, but if I put Chrome into Full Screen mode, it looks like crap...

I don't think Chrome supports the official Full Screen mode yet.

[Ashhong]

Yea I can't use the finger scrolling for Desktop Switching because I use 3 and 4 finger swipes for too many other functions. Back/Forward, Refresh, New Tab, etc etc. It's not worth it. I think I would much rather just 4swipe up to bring out Mission Control and go from there.

Jasoco, I found the problem. It's something I had an issue with before as well. For some reason, my old installation of MultiClutch before BetterTouchTool keeps popping back up even though I did everything to get rid of it before. BTT was conflicting with it and causes the program to crash. I had to go and find the file that MultiClutch once again installed. All is good in the hood now.

Does anybody think that the swiping gestures are less sensitive now though? I feel like I have to put more pressure down onto the pad AND move the fingers a bit more. No big deal, just something I noticed.

[Dreams-Visions]

Turn off natural scrolling.

Fuck.

Basically: left / right scrolling is how I want it for scrolling through spaces when "Natural" is selected. But it's the opposite of what I want when scrolling windows vertically.

Countdown until Apple separates the setting into vertical and horizontal...or until BTT fixes it for them.

*sigh*

[Jasoco]

Do you guys use back and forth that much? I rarely use it.

You never go back and forward in your tab browsing history? Seriously? Never? So do you just close a tab and if you click a link that replaces the page you're on, do you bite your lip and reopen the previous page in a new tab or something?

[Dany M]

I have a iphone and the dumb new scrolling method(i'm not calling it by its bad name) was not that hard to get used to but when I went over to my brothers laptop and tried scrolling using the trackpad, i'd realized how pointless of a change it was for them to implent something like this. Not hard to get used too, not hard to forget but creates a totally unneeded situation when you handle another computer.

[dream]

I go back and forth in everything. Especially Reeder.

[Patrick Bateman]

Is it faster? Do I have any advantages without a trackpad?

Anyone?

I'm still thinking about if I really need this. :/

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

Eww Lion killed Espresso on me. The file pane on the left hand side is black now so the text is too hard to be seen. I hope they update it soon.

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

You never go back and forward in your tab browsing history? Seriously? Never? So do you just close a tab and if you click a link that replaces the page you're on, do you bite your lip and reopen the previous page in a new tab or something?

I always open links in new tabs. I hate having to navigate back and forth, it's a bother to me.

[LCfiner]

I have a iphone and the dumb new scrolling method(i'm not calling it by its bad name) was not that hard to get used to but when I went over to my brothers laptop and tried scrolling using the trackpad, i'd realized how pointless of a change it was for them to implent something like this. Not hard to get used too, not hard to forget but creates a totally unneeded situation when you handle another computer.

Precisely. Anyone who needs to handle a non Lion OS at any point is going to have to rejiggering their heads around scrolling if they keep Lion set to "natural" scrolling.

If you only ever use your own computers and nothing else, then go nuts. But, otherwise, it's a feature that going to be frustrating for lots of folks.

I bet you that apple store display models are gonna get extra confused people using the, who walk in and wonder why everything is backwards.

[Dany M]

I had firefox able to three finger up and down to go to the top or bottom. I've changed mission control to be 4 fingers up but three fingers for firefox don't work???

[darksunpr]

don't know why but my mail is using all my bandwidth all of the time and its set to get new email manually and no rss feeds :/

edit: never mind it was keeping copies of all my msgs for offline viewing

[Tortfeasor]

Is there a swipe gesture to move in between tabs in Safari?

[quadriplegicjon]

I just realized that Disk Inventory X is powerPC (http://www.derlien.com/). Is there another similar app that is Intel or Universal?

[LCfiner]

Is there a swipe gesture to move in between tabs in Safari?

No. These are things that can be customized using the better touch tool app (google it)

It's free and awesome.

[dream]

I was doing a 3 finger double tap to define a word and it occurred to me that this shit is getting really complicated.

[Dreams-Visions]

Precisely. Anyone who needs to handle a non Lion OS at any point is going to have to rejiggering their heads around scrolling if they keep Lion set to "natural" scrolling. If you only ever use your own computers and nothing else, then go nuts. But, otherwise, it's a feature that going to be frustrating for lots of folks. I bet you that apple store display models are gonna get extra confused people using the, who walk in and wonder why everything is backwards.

totally agree.

oh, and I found a way to use BTT to get around the "Natural issue" for spaces.

I simply set the appropriate gesture to Ctrl+ arrow. done.

Fuck vertical "natural" scrolling right in the ass.

[Ashhong]

totally agree. oh, and I found a way to use BTT to get around the "Natural issue" for spaces. I simply set the appropriate gesture to Ctrl+ arrow. done. Fuck vertical "natural" scrolling right in the ass.

This should be in the OP. I didn't realize that holding CTRL would invert the scrolling. BTT + this should be in there to stop all the complaining.

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

The double 3 finger tap for Definitions in safari is amazing. The only thing I hate about safari is you can't type searches directly into the address bar yet. I wish every web browser did that.

Edit: WTF, all of a sudden I have to 4 fingers up to open mission control while in safari since 3 fingers now scrolls and highlights. It wasn't doing that a couple minutes ago. What did I fuck up?

[aparisi2274]

So I've been playing around with Lion now for about 2hrs and so far so good, but can someone tell me what the hell the point of Launchpad is? I mean all the programs I use the most are either on my dock already or I have a alias on my desktop.

Just curious as to what Apple envisions it to do...

[ramyeon]

Is there an option for the 3 finger tap for definitions? I can't see anything in my trackpad preferences and I'm tapping like crazy but nothing's happening (Yes, in Safari). Consider me confused! No problems with any of the other gestures.

[dream]

I just did a horizontal swipe with a little too much enthusiasm and sent my iPhone flying across the room. :(

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

Is there an option for the 3 finger tap for definitions? I can't see anything in my trackpad preferences and I'm tapping like crazy but nothing's happening (Yes, in Safari). Consider me confused! No problems with any of the other gestures.

You have to double tap with 3 fingers for it to work. That's it though.

[ramyeon]

You have to double tap with 3 fingers for it to work. That's it though.

Yeah I know, that's what I've been doing but it doesn't seem to work. Wondering if there's an option to turn it on or not.

[Ashhong]

Yeah I know, that's what I've been doing but it doesn't seem to work. Wondering if there's an option to turn it on or not.

There is. It's in the Trackpad system preferences. I forgot which tab. Maybe under "More Gestures" or something.

[Talon]

So I've been playing around with Lion now for about 2hrs and so far so good, but can someone tell me what the hell the point of Launchpad is? I mean all the programs I use the most are either on my dock already or I have a alias on my desktop. Just curious as to what Apple envisions it to do...

What's confusing about it? Launchpad's a consolidated application launcher. You can use that instead of digging around in the Finder. It's ostensibly more for new OS X users 'cause I'm guessing a good deal of us use Alfred/Quicksilver/Spotlight as a solution.

[ramyeon]

There is. It's in the Trackpad system preferences. I forgot which tab. Maybe under "More Gestures" or something.

Weird, this is all I get :/

[dream]

I can't believe I'm considering buying iWork even though I own Office 2011.

[aparisi2274]

What's confusing about it? Launchpad's a consolidated application launcher. You can use that instead of digging around in the Finder. It's ostensibly more for new OS X users 'cause I'm guessing a good deal of us use Alfred/Quicksilver/Spotlight as a solution.

It's not confusing... I just don't see the need for it, that is all.

[JAVK]

Can I configure my Logitech mouse buttons to switch between desktops, anyone try?

[Ashhong]

Weird, this is all I get :/ [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/3cLog.png[IMG]

I swear I saw an option about it. I will check on mine and get back to you. I guess I could be wrong though

[ramyeon]

I swear I saw an option about it. I will check on mine and get back to you. I guess I could be wrong though

Thanks haha, I feel like I'm doing it wrong, but I can't be because every other gesture works like a charm. Must be somewhere to turn it on or off that's hidden from me :/

[Ashhong]

Thanks haha, I feel like I'm doing it wrong, but I can't be because every other gesture works like a charm. Must be somewhere to turn it on or off that's hidden from me :/

Aha! The three finger double tap option is in Point & Click called "Lookup"

It doesnt work for me even in Safari with it enabled though.

[Quick]

Any way to enable going to the top of the page with trackpad gestures? I had it set to three fingers swipe up. Also having three fingers swiping to the left to return to a previous page?

[Dreams-Visions]

Fullscreen must be great for people with lower resolutions.

@ 1920x1200 however...not so beneficial. :-/

[KingJ2002]

does OSX Lion demand more graphic power?

if it doesn't then OSX Lion broke my discreet graphics switching on my 2010 MBP...

[richiek]

Upgrading to Lion has caused me so switch from Firefox to Safari as my default browser, fullscreen is pretty sweet. Too bad it's only Apple apps that support it.

Since I plug in my Macbook Pro to a monitor often, it looks like I'm gonna have to buy a Magic Trackpad to take advantage of the multitouch gestures. Just keep taking more of my money Apple.

[Ashhong]

Any way to enable going to the top of the page with trackpad gestures? I had it set to three fingers swipe up. Also having three fingers swiping to the left to return to a previous page?

What program do you wish to do this on? Get BetterTouchTool. Learn it, Love it.

[senador]

Aha! The three finger double tap option is in Point & Click called "Lookup" It doesnt work for me even in Safari with it enabled though.

Works for me. You can also alt click and choose to look up from the menu. If you have a physical mouse attached, make sure you have Universal Access>Mouse and Trackpad>Ignore built in trackpad when mouse is attached blah blah blah unchecked.