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DarkChild
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(07-22-2011, 11:49 AM)
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Two new shots,haven't seen anyone posting it yet.



Really wondered how far can they go with look of their character models.Love it or hate it they look absolutely superb.
French
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(07-22-2011, 11:51 AM)
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Looks pretty bad and bland, 20 million confirmed.
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madmackem
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(07-22-2011, 11:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by CozMick

Loving those Foxtrot headphones, might have to invest at a decent price :)

I already have the delta ones, they look like rebadged px5s i just bought.
Kerrby
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(07-22-2011, 12:05 PM)
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Isn't this just screens from the E3 demo?
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MagsMoonshine
(07-22-2011, 12:12 PM)
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Looks good.

Can't wait to play this, Blops was a major downgrade graphics and framerate wise on ps3.
Sethos
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(07-22-2011, 12:13 PM)
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Can't wait to get back up to their latest iteration of the engine, Black Ops was using the WaW version and it could be felt right away.
B_Rik_Schitthaus
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(07-22-2011, 12:14 PM)
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Always wondered does ID get money from these?
-viper-
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(07-22-2011, 12:14 PM)
This looks a million times better than Black Ops.
mrfolego
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(07-22-2011, 12:18 PM)

Originally Posted by B_Rik_Schitthaus

Always wondered does ID get money from these?

If someone bought a retail copy maybe it would say on the back
Gareth Bale
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(07-22-2011, 12:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by -viper-

This looks a million times better than Black Ops.

No sure how you came to that conclusion. Do you think it will play a million times better than Black Ops?
Cmd. Pishad'aš
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(07-22-2011, 12:23 PM)
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Worst water I've ever seen in a while.

The game looks good, though. It just doesn't seem much unique on its own. Lots of asset sharing from past iterations I would say.
Tokyo Rain
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(07-22-2011, 12:23 PM)
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[IMG]http://i52.************/axck1f.jpg[/IMG]
[Nintex]
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(07-22-2011, 12:23 PM)
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looks okay-ish but there's not enough going on in the background. It's not epic or immersive enough so let me fix that for you.

sam27368
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(07-22-2011, 12:24 PM)
Wow looks so bland, unimaginable and unexciting! How do they do it?!?!
NBtoaster
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(07-22-2011, 12:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by Cmd. Pishad'aš

Worst water I've ever seen in a while.

How is it bad?
Gez
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(07-22-2011, 12:26 PM)
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so dedicated servers for PC or not? Or was Kotaku talking out of their rear end as usual when they said there wasn't going to be any?
ResidentDante
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(07-22-2011, 12:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by -viper-

This looks a million times better than Black Ops.

Wat?
Enosh
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(07-22-2011, 12:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sethos

Can't wait to get back up to their latest iteration of the engine, Black Ops was using the WaW version and it could be felt right away.

yeah the treyarch games always look a bit more washed out and less colorfull compared to the IW ones
Jakeh111
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(07-22-2011, 12:35 PM)
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character models look good but everything else is so so imo
UrbanRats
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(07-22-2011, 12:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by [Nintex]

looks okay-ish but there's not enough going on in the background. It's not epic or immersive enough so let me fix that for you.

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/OVlnp.jpg[IMG]

Seriously, what they don't get is that at this point, nothing will do, people are totally desynthesized.
They should just learn to balance the pace better.
Honestly, the first CoD's Stalingrado level impressed and shocked me more than anything they've done after.
They can even blow up a planet or a galaxy, it won't matter, we've seen them all with the CGI and shit.
Ahoi-Brause
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(07-22-2011, 12:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by NBtoaster

How is it bad?

Could be ice or mud as well, there's no indication of it being water.
The Quake 3 engine is getting kinda old you know.
ThoseDeafMutes
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(07-22-2011, 12:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by UrbanRats

people are totally desynthesized.


Um,
Izayoi
(07-22-2011, 12:47 PM)
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Ugh, the materials are so poorly done. Dude in the first picture looks like everything on him was made out of rubber, including his skin. Same thing with the boats in the second screen. Call of Duty has always seemed to do that rather poorly, for some reason.

Sharp knees.
Spiffy_1st
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(07-22-2011, 12:48 PM)
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What kind of captain would order ships to move about like that, they're all going in different directions. Looking at it closely it seems like the ships are really out of proportion, especially the one sinking in the middle.
DarkChild
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(07-22-2011, 12:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ahoi-Brause

Could be ice or mud as well, there's no indication of it being water.
The Quake 3 engine is getting kinda old you know.

Actually it has nothing to do with Quake engine,you know.Better shader costs more performance and when gunning for 60fps you can't expect better.Although,in motion it really looks better.
Cmd. Pishad'aš
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(07-22-2011, 12:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by NBtoaster

How is it bad?

Plain flat colorless shitty water is shitty water.
red731
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(07-22-2011, 12:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by [Nintex]

looks okay-ish but there's not enough going on in the background. It's not epic or immersive enough so let me fix that for you.

Day one!
ResidentDante
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(07-22-2011, 12:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by Spiffy_1st

What kind of captain would order ships to move about like that, they're all going in different directions. Looking at it closely it seems like the ships are really out of proportion, especially the one sinking in the middle.

Haha! My thoughts too, and now I noticed the tiny ship. Looks like it's sinking a few meters away, yet it should be a huge size.
DaSorcerer7
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(07-22-2011, 12:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by [Nintex]

looks okay-ish but there's not enough going on in the background. It's not epic or immersive enough so let me fix that for you.

lol..awesome
Gafapastismo
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(07-22-2011, 12:55 PM)
Awesome art direction.

Character models are some of the best i've seen
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(07-22-2011, 12:55 PM)
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I'm pretty sure it wont look like that in game, not falling for this again.
enzo_gt
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(07-22-2011, 12:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by Cmd. Pishad'aš

Plain flat colorless shitty water is shitty water.

Yup, the water looks like zero effort was put into it at all to make it look like water.

Presumably they've dumbed down the water to increase the graphical level of something else.

..what that is I can't see.
Rahxephon91
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(07-22-2011, 12:57 PM)
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1st screen looks pretty great, but as usual will probably look even better in motion.

Pretty excited, game should be pretty fun.
NBtoaster
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(07-22-2011, 12:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ahoi-Brause

Could be ice or mud as well, there's no indication of it being water.
The Quake 3 engine is getting kinda old you know.

Don't pretend as if this looks remotely like the stock Quake 3 engine.

I see splashes, swirls and small waves. What else would make it look like water? Reflections would look out of place in the environment and on the surface of rough water.

Originally Posted by Cmd. Pishad'aš

Plain flat colorless shitty water is shitty water.

Doesn't look flat to me.
enzo_gt
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(07-22-2011, 01:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by NBtoaster

Don't pretend as if this looks remotely like the stock Quake 3 engine.

I see splashes, swirls and small waves. What else would make it look like water? Reflections would look out of place in the environment and on the surface of rough water.



Doesn't look flat to me.

It pretty damn flat in terms of appearance and colour.
-viper-
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(07-22-2011, 01:02 PM)

Originally Posted by ResidentDante

Wat?

Black Ops is an awful, awful looking game. Even on the PC. Modern Warfare 2 looks better, and this isn't surprising, as IW use a different engine. MW3 is already looking good.
ResidentDante
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(07-22-2011, 01:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by -viper-

Black Ops is an awful, awful looking game. Even on the PC. Modern Warfare 2 looks better, and this isn't surprising, as IW use a different engine. MW3 is already looking good.

I thought both WaW and BO looked great in most parts on 360 atleast, maybe it's more obvious on PC.
DarkChild
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(07-22-2011, 01:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by ResidentDante

I thought both WaW and BO looked great in most parts on 360 atleast, maybe it's more obvious on PC.

Black Ops did have its moments when I played it.There was a lot of inconstancy,but some parts looked pretty damn good. Their character models are also great,but gun models and hit detection is not on IW level.
Ahoi-Brause
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(07-22-2011, 01:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by DarkChild

Actually it has nothing to do with Quake engine,you know.Better shader costs more performance and when gunning for 60fps you can't expect better.Although,in motion it really looks better.

It has something to do with the engine because it wasn't build for this kind of game in the first place. That's why they have to use so many smoke and mirror tactics to make the games look good.
That's why you're running through a hose in the call of duty games instead of interacting with the enviroment like in battlefield.
The engine just isn't capable of anything beyond corridors if you ramp it up to such a high level. And even the setpieces are just corridors when you look at it.

A change of engine (maybe ID tech 4 or something) might actually help the games.
Rahxephon91
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(07-22-2011, 01:11 PM)
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The water has a color and it's grayish because the sky is as well....
NBtoaster
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(07-22-2011, 01:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Cmd. Pishad'aš

Plain flat colorless shitty water is shitty water.

Am I imagining the swirls in that image?

Besides, just look at it in motion:

http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/mode...alysis?size=hd

Clear waves and splashes; it animates well.
YoungFa
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(07-22-2011, 01:14 PM)
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Needs more pouches.
Diablohead
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(07-22-2011, 01:15 PM)
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It looks good to me, especially if it's holding 60fps on consoles still. I'll expect more jaggy when playing it at release too and maybe a sprinkle of sub 720p
ResidentDante
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(07-22-2011, 01:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by YoungFa

Needs more pouches.

Got to have somewhere to pack 700 bullets....
DarkChild
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(07-22-2011, 01:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ahoi-Brause

It has something to do with the engine because it wasn't build for this kind of game in the first place. That's why they have to use so many smoke and mirror tactics to make the games look good.
That's why you're running through a hose in the call of duty games instead of interacting with the enviroment like in battlefield.
The engine just isn't capable of anything beyond corridors if you ramp it up to such a high level. And even the setpieces are just corridors when you look at it.

A change of engine (maybe ID tech 4 or something) might actually help the games.

You mean engine like ND's,Epic's and pretty much any engine in the world thats not called Cryengine or Frostbite?Plus,the one that actually runs game at twice the frame rate their competition runs at?Yea,I suppose you are right,their engine is crap.

Quake 3 engine has nothing to do with this engine.Their rendering pipeline is so changed now that it has no resemblance to old ID tech.Similar how Reach engine doesn't have alot in common with Halo's from last gen,even if its the "same" engine.

RAGE(running on new ID tech 5),the game that was in making for 5 long years on newest ID's tech runs at 60fps,720p no AA(MW3 600p 2xMSAA) and dropping resolution when the frame rate goes down is perfect example that you can't get more at 60fps no matter what you do to.RAGE's water is not the that great either,neither are shaders great,textures(although featuring alot of variety) are actually lower resolution than those in MW3 etc. You can't expect more at 60fps on those consoles,people should deal with that instead of calling engine a crap.

BTW,good luck running game looking as good as MW3 is on newest UE3 engine.Not to talk about CE3 and FB2,you know you would see alot of destruction at 60fps...
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Radec
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(07-22-2011, 01:19 PM)
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Is Nuke coming back ?

As dumb and ridiculous as the Nuke killstreak is, that's the only moment where my body is shaking and my heart is beating fast like crazy. Especially when I'm in the 23-24 zone.

Best feeling = Deploying that nuke, seeing all your enemies and allies looking at your name and score. :D

Worst feeling = getting killed when you are 1 or 2 kills away. And I got like 10 rounds of this before getting the Nuke emblem. Fucking worst feeling from a game. :(
Mohonky
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(07-22-2011, 01:19 PM)
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Looks pretty bloody impressive to me for 2008.
Ahoi-Brause
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(07-22-2011, 01:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by DarkChild

You mean engine like ND's,Epic's and pretty much any engine in the world thats not called Cryengine or Frostbite?Plus,the one that actually runs game at twice the frame rate their competition runs at.Yea,I suppose you are right.

Quake 3 engine has nothing to do with this engine.Their rendering pipeline is so changed now that it has no resemblance to old ID tech.Similar how Reach engine doesn't have alot in common with Halo's from last gen,even if its the "same" engine.

BTW,good luck running game looking as good as MW3 is on newest UE3 engine.Not to talk about CE3 and FB2,you know you would see alot of destruction at 60fps...

BC 2 is running with a pretty good framerate at my computar.
highluxury
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(07-22-2011, 01:23 PM)
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How is this suppose to make it look any better? Its outdatedly bland.
ChocolatePuddin
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(07-22-2011, 01:23 PM)
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What system are these screens from? I think it looks pretty good, not mind blowing, but not bad at all.

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