[Spokker]

Then what that guy said doesn't make any sense no?

It makes sense in that waiters do make their living off of tips, but it is not true that any of them will have to live off of $2.33 per hour if people do not tip.

Waiters in higher-end restaurants can make up to $70 thousand per year if the rants of angry cooks are to be believed.

[Aquavelvaman]

No one waits tables to make minimum wage though...it's not an easy job, skilled waiters should be compensated appropriately. If your culture doesn't tip then the menu prices will go up to pay the waiters or the quality of wait staff will go down tremendously.

TIPPING THREEEEEAD

[Femmeworth]

I tipped my doctor 20% for my circumcision.

That's like tipping for an abortion!

[glaringradio]

You do realize these servers make under minimum wage, sometimes as low as 2.33 an hour. Can you live off that? They depend on tips to survive.

Of course you know I am from the UK where there are minimum wage laws, which means that when I myself work for minimum wage, I know for sure when I go to ANY restaurant they are at least working for minimum wage or more.

[criesofthepast]

It doesn't. The employer has to pay the rest if tips don't cover it.

Exacty.

If minimum wage would have made you $500 a week and you only made $300 in tips plus your $3 an hour wage or whatever...then the restaurant pays the extra $200 for you to hit the minimum wage.

I've never had this happen to me. Waiters will always make over minimum wage unless you work in a shit hole and suck at customer service.

[Ellis Kim]

ITT cheap people who have never worked a restaurant job before.

This :/

Honestly, what a disappointing reaction from GAF.

It became painfully clear that I gave my distressed guest an opportunity to feel superior.

The most interesting quote in the OP. Its also worth mentioning that people who give lip service, or have huge egos, are the ones who give the smallest tips, or no tips at all.

[Cyrillus]

This is how VT handles it, if they make less than the standard minimum wage with the base wage plus tips, the employer is responsible for paying the difference. I like this policy, and I really wish the U.S. would move away from this customer-subsidized system, but as long as the system is in place I will continue to tip 20%.

[Vilam]

lol @ 20% as the standard. The ego on these minimum wage workers.

[2San]

That's just what they want you to believe. If you look at it as a performance indicator though, if one waiter is consistently pulling in less than minimum wage while everybody else is raking in the tips, the restaurant has little incentive to keep them around.

So you guys essentially tip, because you feel sorry for the waiter?

This :/ Honestly, what a disappointing reaction from GAF. .

Ever went to Europe? Did you tip for 20% as well?

[Jangocube]

Oh god this: "Think about it: For black folks, there are still relatively few opportunities (outside of therapy) to articulate our frustration with the unbalanced scales of power in our society. Even for those in the upper echelons, the playing field isn't level, and in our current economic climate, everything is in flux, making waiters easy targets. I found that the tables that demanded the most tipped the worst. It became painfully clear that I gave my distressed guest an opportunity to feel superior." is just lulzy. FUCK THE MAN, screw the waiter? Hahahahaha

And I've had friends who've waited tables and well, I won't comment on what really happens in most restaurants. Lets just say that the articles title isn't that far off.

[FunkyPajamas]

I tipped my doctor 20% for my circumcision.

That's a large tip out of your pocket.

[Dark Knyght]

You guys are fucking crazy. 20%%!!!

I went with 3 friends to the CheeseCake Factory. We ordered 4 entrees, 1 appetizer and a couple of slices of cheeseake. Anyway, the bill came up about $150. You guys expect us to tip this dude $30 fuckin' dollars for taking our order and bringing out food. GTFOH.

[Lunchbox]

I'm a 20% tipper. Back when I was a server, whenever black, asian or jewish people walked in, the servers would scramble to not be around to take the table, or it would be handed off to a new server, because of expectation of a terrible tip. I've received good and bad tips from all types of people.

hitler must've been a waiter

[emomoonbase]

lol @ 20% as the standard. The ego on these minimum wage workers.

I know right! Now think of the people who's unwashed hands are touching your food are getting paid even less!!!

[BeEatNU]

My white ass never tips 20%. They're lucky to get 15%

truth has been spoken right here.

I tip base on service, you do good I tip good.

I'm mixed so iono how that fits into it.

[Coins]

I had a black roomate when I was in the Navy. He would always tip big because he told me black people hate tipping. If the pizza guy was black he'd even joke with him about how he bet the dude thought he wouldn't get a tip when he opened the door.

[Spokker]

I won't comment on what really happens in most restaurants.

Why won't you comment? Why keep the truth from us? Let's hear it.

[Petrie]

Nobody thinks 20% is a standard tip. It's a myth. Its a lie. Waiters try to guilt us into thinking other people tip 20%, when we know nobody does.

This is just wrong. Most people are in fact decent and realize servers/bartenders rely on tips, and tip between 18-20% for good service.

Don't try to rationalize your crap behavior by claiming "nobody else does it".

[Asuma01]

I tip 20% or nothing... For me to tip nothing they have to be pretty bad. like bring me someone elses food or mess up my order somehow. That said its pretty rare that I dont tip.
Dont think of it as extra you have to pay... its part of eating at a fine establishment... If I dont get served at a sit down place though then forget your tip. I dont care if you have a tip spot on the receipt... tips are for getting served my food. not getting up and getting it at the counter.

[Dark Knyght]

I tipped my doctor 20% for my circumcision.

Are you sure the doctor didn't take 20% off your tip?

[Copernicus]

You guys are fucking crazy. 20%%!!! I went with 3 friends to the CheeseCake Factory. We ordered 4 entrees, 1 appetizer and a couple of slices of cheeseake. Anyway, the bill came up about $150. You guys expect us to tip this dude $30 fuckin' dollars for taking our order and bringing out food. GTFOH.

That's like seven plates man. SEVEN!

[shuri]

i remember reading an article about how in the states waiters had a nicknames for black people in restaurants, they called them 'canadians'

[Angry Grimace]

This :/ Honestly, what a disappointing reaction from GAF. The most interesting quote in the OP. Its also worth mentioning that people who give lip service, or have huge egos, are the ones who give the smallest tips, or no tips at all.

Yeah whatever dude. If it was up to server-GAF we'd be paying 100% tips. Guess what, everyone's job fucking sucks, not just yours; it's called work because it's work.

You aren't the only people in the world with shitty jobs and shitty pay.

[Guevara]

Really we should be tipping the chef.

[LQX]

This is just wrong. Most people are in fact decent and realize servers/bartenders rely on tips, and tip between 18-20% for good service. Don't try to rationalize your crap behavior by claiming "nobody else does it".

Laughable.

[Spokker]

You guys expect us to tip this dude $30 fuckin' dollars for taking our order and bringing out food. GTFOH.

It's kind of an amazing wage if people do tip $30. I have to imagine that you can get through at least one or two tables at a place like the Cheesecake Factory in an hour. These people must be making $20-$30 per hour.

[glaringradio]

Apologies, double post-tastic

[The Faceless Master]

Ironically, I feel compelled to always tip 20%, even in the face of terrible service, just to buck this stereotype.

i'm just waiting for the day i get a server terrible enough for me to tip nothing.

FUCK THE STEREOTYPE!

[Nomad Blue]

I prefer it this way, "You can't tip, don't fucking eat out."

Alternatively, "if you're relying on me to subsidise your wages, get a better job".

[mac]

Ever went to Europe? Did you tip for 20% as well?

Have you ever been to New Zealand?

[Lunchbox]

are you supposed to tip at chain haircut salons like super cuts?

i tipped there once, and it was weird and awkward. the lady didnt expect it. from then on i dont.......but im not sure if they are calling me names behind my back now. fuck i wish i had a regular barber new me

[ThoseDeafMutes]

Menu prices in general would probably go up if people stopped tipping, though.

Menu prices in general would go up if tax was included. Service should be included too. The rest of the world considers listing the actual price of something a norm.

[TheNiX]

i remember reading an article about how in the states waiters had a nicknames for black people in restaurants, they called them 'canadians'

We tip up here and on average it's 15%. But, that would explain why they wait for a living.

[Spokker]

Menu prices in general would go up if tax was included. Service should be included too. The rest of the world considers listing the actual price of something a norm.

I agree. But I'm simply making a point that in either system, we are going to pay the same price.

Really we should be tipping the chef.

Depends. At some restaurants all they do is microwave your meal.

[Petrie]

Laughable.

I've been in this business for over a decade at a variety of establishments. You are wrong. Most people are good people.

[Lion Heart]

I never calculate to the penny, thats retarded. I usually go round numbers, so lets say its 12 dollars, I'll leave a toonie and be on my way. Thats a bit more than 15% but I'm not going to ask the bitch for 20 cents back. The worst part of is none of my friends tip. None. So I end up putting a toonie on the table (paid with debit) and it looks like a group tip.

[Home]

I usually tip 20% unless the service is pretty bad, then I'll tip 10%. Tipping threads on GAF always seem to erupt fairly quickly.

[THE NO LIFE KING]

Alright, been waiting for the monthly tipping thread. Now all need is a circumcision thread to finish off this month quota and then, we be set.

I tip 15% unless the server is a asshole, they get 5%

[emomoonbase]

Why won't you comment? Why keep the truth from us? Let's hear it.

I will. Let's just say you've probably eaten more rotten meat/boogers/jizz from a dude's hands who just jerked it in the bathroom/spit/food from other people's plates that were heading to the dish washer/cigarette ashes than you know...

[Angry Grimace]

are you supposed to tip at chain haircut salons like super cuts? i tipped their once, and it was weird and awkward. the lady didnt expect it. from then on i dont.......but im not sure if they are calling me names behind my back now. fuck i wish i had a regular barber new me

I tip at SuperCuts. When it gets really awkward is when I go to a barber than charges 8 bucks for haircuts. Then you're getting into 50% tips because I don't see what the tip should be any different just because they charge less.

[Asuma01]

are you supposed to tip at chain haircut salons like super cuts? i tipped there once, and it was weird and awkward. the lady didnt expect it. from then on i dont.......but im not sure if they are calling me names behind my back now. fuck i wish i had a regular barber new me

Always tip the person that cuts your hair... Unless they butcher you... Thats just crazy not to...

[Keru_Shiri]

Alternatively, "if you're relying on me to subsidise your wages, get a better job".

Because it's always that easy.

[shintoki]

Yeah whatever dude. If it was up to server-GAF we'd be paying 100% tips. Guess what, everyone's job fucking sucks, not just yours; it's called work because it's work. You aren't the only people in the world with shitty jobs and shitty pay.

I said my experience before. Waiters love to exaggerate how tough their job is, when really it is the kitchen pulling the ass at the restaurants. All they are is the face getting orders.

[SeanR1221]

20% is easier to calculate quickly, so I do that.

[Himself]

You people sound like high school kids who only go out to eat at the local diner for some disco fries.

20% is basically what a server hopes to make when the night is over. I know this from experience. It's not out of the norm whatsoever. Also, if most restaurants payed their full staff a living wage, they would sink very quickly.

[PepsimanVsJoe]

Pizza delivery is all I can do in this butthole town.

So pay up.

[clearacell]

I work in food service and if you're going out to eat out, I don't see how you don't expect to pay premium tip. For one thing, when you eat out you're not paying for the food...the actual food you get, even that new york steak with all the trimmings, probably comes out to about three or four bucks total for all the food you get even though the meal is about $30. What you're paying for is the environment, the convenience of not cooking the food yourself, having the food cooked by a chef with years of experience making that same meal you just ordered, the person waiting on your needs, and the amount of time you spend in the restaurant being able to socialize. Cooks usually get paid significantly more than servers and also work more hours on a more steady time frame...servers are usually paid minimum and in order to stretch that paycheck they usually do anything they can to make their service as good as possible in the hopes that you give them a tip.

I said my experience before. Waiters love to exaggerate how tough their job is, when really it is the kitchen pulling the ass at the restaurants. All they are is the face getting orders.

Indeed, generally the cooks and dishwashers got it the toughest, but then again servers gotta deal with a lot of bullshit from the customers talking back to them all the time...but hey, that's all part of the job.

[nib95]

On a side note, I have a really attractive friend who works in some swanky West London bar/restaurant. Other day she told me she'd make £50-£120 a day on tips alone. I was shocked lol. Suppose it helps if you look hot.

[THE NO LIFE KING]

You people sound like high school kids who only go out to eat at the local diner for some disco fries. 20% is basically what a server hopes to make when the night is over. I know this from experience. It's not out of the norm whatsoever. Also, if most restaurants payed their full staff a living wage, they would sink very quickly.

Food of the gods, its been sooo long.

[polyh3dron]

Waiters/waitresses must love me. I usually estimate a rough 20% then round up to the nearest dollar. I'd probably tip less if the service was really bad, but we usually go to local restaurants where we've gotten to know the staff, so we don't really have that problem.

Honestly it depends what kind of stuff I'm getting. If I'm at a bar, order food and get a bunch of drinks and stuff, it's 20% no question because the server is doing a lot more work. If I just get a meal and one drink or something, then 15% is more appropriate IMO.