[Zombie James]

[Medalion]

Don't knock it till you've tried it...snobs!

[Dead Man]

Essentially, the people who believe such things to be true at face value reveal their inner prejudices. Rationally, I do not see any reason a given culture would be more likely to consume fetuses because of their bullshit medicinal beliefs. The fact that some rich old fuck in China is eager to eat some tiger penis soup is about as relevant to your eagerness to enjoy a medium rare steak when it comes to any person's propensity to eat dead aborted babies. Also, the country's sick history of infanticide is one thing, but how does cannibalism factor into that? Anyway, as another poster stated, I am interested further explanation about the testing from the article. The figure of 99.7% strikes me sort of odd: I think the way to identify a human DNA is to explicitly target certain sequences somewhat unique to humans. Provided that the DNA isn't too damaged from the microwave drying and powdering process, I think PCR can catch it. Still, wouldn't it be the equivalent of finding a needle in a haystack and then claiming that the haystack is made of needles?

That is an absolute failure of logic there. What you are saying is that you are unable to extrapolate from different cultures medical beliefs to assign likelihoods of certain practices. You can't be that stupid, can you?

[Kaizer]

Wow, sounds like a really crazy story. I'm taking it with a HUGE grain of salt, but if true then holy shit that's disgusting.

[Lesath]

That is an absolute failure of logic there. What you are saying is that you are unable to extrapolate from different cultures medical beliefs to assign likelihoods of certain practices. You can't be that stupid, can you?

I hope you can offer more than name calling? Please, guide me through this amazing thought process through which one can logically "extrapolate" likelihoods of certain practices. You failed to elaborate, so as far as I know, your knowledge of Chinese medicine is about as limited as mine. All I can offer is my limited experience and my understanding that Chinese medicine does not actually think everything gross you put in your mouth is good for you. For example, duck is apparently really bad for your body.

So tell me, how is a given Chinese person's hesitance to eat duck any more relevant than his eagerness for tiger penis when it comes to eating babies? My relatives have eaten dogs and cats (spare them, pet GAF, they were starving under Mao China), and find the notion of eating fetuses revolting. I sincerely hope your amazing logic has something more to offer than "they will eat weird shit so therefore they will eat babies."

EDIT: Grammar.

[Dead Man]

I hope you can offer more than name calling? Please, guide me through this amazing thought process through which one can logically "extrapolate" likelihoods of certain practices. You failed to elaborate, so as far as I know, your knowledge of Chinese medicine is about as limited as mine. All I can offer is my limited experience and my understanding that Chinese medicine does not actually think everything gross you put in your mouth is good for you. For example, duck is apparently really bad for your body. So tell me, how is a given Chinese person's hesitance to eat duck any more relevant than his eagerness for tiger penis when it comes to eating babies? My relatives have eaten dogs and cats (spare them, pet GAF, they were starving under Mao China), and find the notion of eating fetuses revolting. I sincerely hope your amazing logic has something more to offer than "they will eat weird shit so therefore they will eat babies." EDIT: Grammar.

I didn't even call you a name! LOL. Lets look at your statement again, shall we?

I do not see any reason a given culture would be more likely to consume fetuses because of their bullshit medicinal beliefs.

You have a made a universal statement that you cannot determine the likelihood of a culture eating foetuses because of bullshit medical beliefs. Now, you have not specified what the culture is, so we have two choices, one where eating foetuses is part of the medical beliefs and one where it is not. I don't know if the Chinese have this belief in any way, and nor do I care for the purposes of this discussion since we are addressing your statement of inability to reason generally.

In the case where it is part of their bullshit medical beliefs, you can obviously say that cultures with hose beliefs would be more likely to participate in foetus consumption. That is so self evident it is not worth dwelling on.

In the case where it is not, it is then useful to examine their other beliefs to see what is the likelihood of it being practised anyway. If they have a strong belief in the sanctity of the individual, strong belief in the scientific method, and an aversion to taking lives it would be less likely. If these conditions do not apply, or the populace has a high incidence of credulity for folk medicine, it is more likely.

It's not that complicated. Your statement that you cannot determine the likelihood of a culture practising a behaviour from looking at the relevant part of their culture, is rubbish.

I think you may have confused my statement with one that would make the leap that people that would practise traditional medicine are therefore likely to commit act X. I did not say that, all I did was call out your lack of ability to extrapolate.

For the record, I think there are many cultures around the world where this practise may occur if allowed, and I think it would be a shitty thing in all of them. And my grandmother is Chinese, and has not to my knowledge eaten any foetuses. She is a bit of an evil witch though, so who knows?

[Lesath]

I didn't even call you a name! LOL.

You're absolutely right. Passive-aggressive name calling is not name calling at all. Seriously, you can't be that much of a moron, can you?

You have a made a universal statement that you cannot determine the likelihood of a culture eating foetuses because of bullshit medical beliefs. Now, you have not specified what the culture is, so we have two choices, one where eating foetuses is part of the medical beliefs and one where it is not. I don't know if the Chinese have this belief in any way, and nor do I care for the purposes of this discussion since we are addressing your statement of inability to reason generally.

I apologize. Perhaps it would have been better to state that "a given culture would be more likely to consume fetuses because they have bullshit medicinal beliefs." rather than "because of." "Bullshit beliefs" in general, not specifically. My beef was with the posters claiming they were "not surprised" when they in fact have very little logical basis on that feeling. I sincerely doubt that anybody in this thread has read some famous Chinese medicinal treatise where it states that aborted fetuses are good for you.

In other words, my argument is that just because culture holds medicinal beliefs is based on utter bullshit, does not make it any more likely to gravitate towards cannibalism.

In the case where it is part of their bullshit medical beliefs, you can obviously say that cultures with hose beliefs would be more likely to participate in foetus consumption. That is so self evident it is not worth dwelling on.

Fair.

In the case where it is not, it is then useful to examine their other beliefs to see what is the likelihood of it being practised anyway. If they have a strong belief in the sanctity of the individual, strong belief in the scientific method, and an aversion to taking lives it would be less likely. If these conditions do not apply, or the populace has a high incidence of credulity for folk medicine, it is more likely.

Okay, then. You have made abundantly clear you know nothing about TCM. Therefore, as far as you should be concerned, a TCM practitioner would be as about as inclined to eat fetus pills as say, some guy who believes in, say, homeopathy. The fact that the TCM guy ate armadillo shells or something is not at all relevant to whether he would eat an aborted fetus. Of course, we can get into a row about how much the average TCM practitioner in Beijing believes in the "sanctity of the individual" and an "aversion to taking lives" versus some homeopath living in London. Obviously, neither would find a strong affinity for the scientific method.

The greatest irony in all this of course, is that there is no clear scientific position on whether or not fetuses are good for you...

It's not that complicated. Your statement that you cannot determine the likelihood of a culture practising a behaviour from looking at the relevant part of their culture, is rubbish.

Well, obviously, if a culture has some sort of medicinal treatise stating that powdered fetuses are good for you, they would likely have some sort of inclination for such things. However, my argument was that (and I was admittedly not clear, though I thought it was obvious from context) you cannot state that just because their medicinal beliefs are in general bullshit, that they would be more inclined towards fetal pill consumption. I repeat myself, but it really is a ridiculous notion.

I think you may have confused my statement with one that would make the leap that people that would practise traditional medicine are therefore likely to commit act X. I did not say that, all I did was call out your lack of ability to extrapolate.

Well, I have done what I can to elaborate.

[Dead Man]

You're absolutely right. Passive-aggressive name calling is not name calling at all. Seriously, you can't be that much of a moron, can you?

LOL, well played.

[Simplet]

Essentially, the people who believe such things to be true at face value reveal their inner prejudices. Rationally, I do not see any reason a given culture would be more likely to consume fetuses because of their bullshit medicinal beliefs. The fact that some rich old fuck in China is eager to eat some tiger penis soup is about as relevant to your eagerness to enjoy a medium rare steak when it comes to any person's propensity to eat dead aborted babies. Also, the country's sick history of infanticide is one thing, but how does cannibalism factor into that?

Chinese thread in here are always very telling. I mean this is how the latest China thread ended, the one about the bullet train :

Originally Posted by Juancho9: 


TheChinese gov are the worst fucking liars.
 


I do know from a business perspective they are a bunch of shrewd, sly motherfuckas that'll sell their parents down the river to make a buck.
 
They seem like an anomaly in the Asian community as the Japanese and Koreans are somewhat opposite of them.

This is seriously one of the most spectacularly racist post I've seen on this board. No one seemed to care. And combined with a classic case of weeaboo-ism no less.

[Krev]

Perfect first reply.

I don't believe the story. Spreading this kind of story is too typical a demonisation tactic.

[icarus-daedelus]

I am a bit surprised that there aren't more people complaining about such a sensationalized thread/thread title.

Now I feel like I should watch 3 Extremes.

[jaxword]

I find it hard to believe that as far-reaching as the internet goes, not a single testimonial can be found of someone trying this product.

REMINDER that there's testimonials of people literally slicing their own penis off, eating their own feces, ingesting steel nails, etc.

There's always someone out there who will try it and tell us. So where's this one?

[MidnightScott]

It seems like anything can be eaten these days. Next we'll be eating tires and stuff too.

Also, there seems to be a movie about anything. First a movie about a boy who has herpes on his face, and now a movie about dead babies being turned into dumplings.

Good grief world -_-;

[Bomber Bob]

disgusting

[Dead Man]

This seems to be the original article on the Korean site, anyone here translate?

http://www.newdaily.co.kr/news/article.html?no=88031

Edit: Googletranslate:

Made with a dead baby 'Man capsule, sold in South Korea? Baby powder or baby capsule? SBS 'I want to know it "shock charges. The remains of a dead baby is dried, ground created the so-called Chinese "Man capsule is distributed in the domestic shocking news came. SBS TV 'wants to know it' crew made in China 'Man' is referred to as the best nourishment tonic in Korea has been secretly spy on the deal and get turned into a city in China. The capsule is being made flesh actually visited a local Chinese crew, who handled a variety of medicines from the hospital staff is associated with capsule conceivable deulkkaji around them to take a precautionary approach, and the results were able to find them sitting on the answer. China, a businessman and a part of China daemyeonhan crew died in the hospital with the placenta and the fetus is actually trading for individual and were able to identify the site. Results covering the purchase of dead fetuses with the root consisting only of people who know the secret was made, the business was a lot of money. In fact, China's largest hospital crew contacted the placenta, together with the contractor dueotdaga were sold secretly, rather than being traded actively involved hospital staff and nurses was organized trading. According to the crew who died in the hospital malman done nothing to obtain fetal abortion or stillbirth if the coming baby was known that if you touch it, the dead fetus to encapsulate the task of creating damage to the eyes of others, often secretly, in private homes that are in progress was said. A dead baby and the homes were kept in the refrigerator, work directly for the equipment to create or use existing medicines, and was drying oven, just as you create a herbal powder made from dried capsules should not be placed on the operation of sanitary facilities consisting crew said was happening in homes. Identified by the crew reportedly made this capsule and from Korea by Koreans entering South Korea by the broker, orders of magnitude more expensive than local prices in China with human flesh being sold to people who want a capsule was found. Cannibalism is commercially available capsules and station checks the number of Customs 99.7% DNA test results matched those of human beings were able to distinguish between the sexes, as well as, the capsule was found in a number of hair said. Experts also capsules that you and your baby can not determine the state of health of the people in the jejodwae be harmful rather than what people think, and there is absolutely no effect said cutting. Current Customs national survey of people bought the capsules from the flesh, and the domestic distribution channels being scrutinized. In this regard, "it would like to know the 'crew' in Korea, Man of the capsule manufacturing and distribution process to track and entities identified last coverage period reporters, too terrible, traumatic memories remain," said, "Clearly, the demand unless it coined without that we would not have even come to Korea, "he says. Broadcast on August 6.

[jaxword]

It seems like anything can be eaten these days. Next we'll be eating tires and stuff too.

You say this as if it's a bad thing.

The alternative, right now, to actually let them rot for centuries.

[icarus-daedelus]

It seems like anything can be eaten these days. Next we'll be eating tires and stuff too. Also, there seems to be a movie about anything. First a movie about a boy who has herpes on his face, and now a movie about dead babies being turned into dumplings. Good grief world -_-;

I, for one, will take more movies about eating dead babies and less actual eating of dead babies.

[Suikoguy]

I just had to mention that I got a coca cola ad telling me to Open Happiness. Good job Google.

[ElectricBlue187]

Man pills are people. I do think this story probably speaks directly to our prejudice that Chinese people are strange and have very different cultural mores than we do. I think cannibalism is a pretty widespread taboo though and this should outrage everyone (if it's true)

[RevDM]

Man pills are people. I do think this story probably speaks directly to our prejudice that Chinese people are strange and have very different cultural mores than we do. I think cannibalism is a pretty widespread taboo though and this should outrage everyone (if it's true)

Didn't the Japanese eat the Chinese during WWII occupation?

[tri_willy]

i knew why people were mentioning dont buy food made from china... it was allegedly cancerous shit!

[soundscream]

I like these calm little moments before the storm

[JJDinomite]

Makes me even happier that China is going to take over the world in the next 10 years.

[Ulairi]

Makes me even happier that China is going to take over the world in the next 10 years.

Yeah, no they aren't.

[Kuro Madoushi]

Wow, people will believe anything.

Even the Gizmodo article that linked to a rumor about babies for meals was wrong. Nowhere does it mention babies were transported to be eaten...
Reason a korean news channel would make shit up? Ratings? Shock appeal? Not the first time they've had shoddy reporting, I'm sure. Fan death is one example.

[Shiv47]

This story rises again:

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — South Korea has seized thousands of smuggled drug capsules filled with powdered flesh from dead babies, which some people believe can cure disease, officials said Monday. The capsules were made in northeastern China from babies whose bodies were chopped into small pieces and dried on stoves before being turned into powder, the Korea Customs Service said. Customs officials refused to say where the dead babies came from or who made the capsules, citing possible diplomatic friction with Beijing. Chinese officials ordered an investigation into the production of drugs made from dead fetuses or newborns last year. The customs office has discovered 35 smuggling attempts since August of about 17,450 capsules disguised as stamina boosters, and some people believe them to be a panacea for disease, the customs service said in a statement. The capsules of human flesh, however, contained bacteria and other harmful ingredients. The smugglers told customs officials they believed the capsules were ordinary stamina boosters and did not know the ingredients or manufacturing process. Ethnic Koreans from northeastern China who now live in South Korea were intending to use the capsules themselves or share them with other Korean-Chinese, a customs official said. They were carried in luggage or sent by international mail. The capsules were all confiscated but no one has been punished because the amount was deemed small and they weren't intended for sale, said the customs official, who requested anonymity, citing department rules. China's State Food and Drug Administration and its Health Ministry did not immediately respond to questions faxed to them Monday. Chinese media identify northeastern China as the source of such products, especially Jilin province which abuts North Korea. The Jilin food and drug safety agency is responsible for investigating the trade of such remains there. Calls to the agency and to the information office of Jilin's Communist Party were not answered Monday. The South Korean customs agency began investigating after receiving a tip a year ago. No sicknesses have been reported from ingesting the capsules.