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DaSorcerer7
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(08-08-2011, 09:59 AM)
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"Consumers are happy" with current hardware, claims Bethesda's Howard

When asked by PSM3 magazine how long he thinks we'll have to wait for successors to PS3 and Xbox 360, Howard said he thinks "consumers are happy" with current hardware.

"I think it's going to be a while still, I really do. I think consumers are happy with the current ones, there's a lot you can do with them," he said. "So I don't think it's coming next year or the year after."

Quizzed on earlier comments that Bethesda was considering waiting until the next PlayStation and Xbox hardware to release Skyrim, Howard said that conversations over moving the title to next-gen consoles were "very serious".

"We want [Skyrim] to be fresh. We don't want it to feel, visually or technically, 'Oh this is Fallout 3' or 'this is Oblivion' And if we couldn't do that we would have waited," he said.

2K global president Christoph Hartmann recently claimed Microsoft and Sony are already "experimenting" with Kinect and Move for what could be the foundations of their next-generation console plans.

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lordfroakie
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(08-08-2011, 10:01 AM)
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inb4WiiU
shagg_187
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(08-08-2011, 10:01 AM)
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Skyrim? Don't you mean Scrolls 5?
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Nekofrog
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(08-08-2011, 10:03 AM)
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That's okay, I have a PC.
Risk Breaker
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(08-08-2011, 10:04 AM)
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Good, I guess. PS3 still has to get to 150$ at least, after all.
Sethos
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(08-08-2011, 10:04 AM)
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And lots of people are still very satisfied with VHS.
gunslingerNZ
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(08-08-2011, 10:04 AM)
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Doubt it will be that long, not that I would mind if it is. My feeling is they're going to want to at least plant some rumours prior to the Wii-U release in order to dent its sales. I still think we can expect a 2012 announcement and a holiday 2013 release.
HolyTaco
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(08-08-2011, 10:06 AM)
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Originally Posted by shagg_187

Skyrim? Don't you mean Scrolls 6?

Nah he's saying if they weren't able to make Skyrim feel fresh they would've waited till next gen, but they were able too (make it feel fresh)
Radec
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(08-08-2011, 10:07 AM)
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Originally Posted by Risk Breaker

Good, I guess. PS3 still has to get to 150$ at least, after all.

PS3 will get to that range with or without the PS4.

Just like how low the PS2 went.
GavinGT
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(08-08-2011, 10:08 AM)
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Please be true. I don't need better graphics on my consoles, just new experiences.

If I need my fill of eye candy, I play on my PC.
krypt0nian
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(08-08-2011, 10:09 AM)
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Announced next E3, released the following year.
BigTnaples
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(08-08-2011, 10:09 AM)
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Yeah before Skyrim was announced I was hoping Bethesda would wait until next gen for The Elder Scrolls 5. That wait would have been far to long however, and I think they made the right choice.


I am hoping for 2013, but we will see. As long as the jump is big enough to last us another 8 years.
rockman zx
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(08-08-2011, 10:11 AM)
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Thank god, I don't want to spend $400+ to play the same games with more sparkles.
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(08-08-2011, 10:11 AM)
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Obviously. Why would they release new consoles so soon when the current ones are doing so well, especially after bleeding heavily at the start of this gen. I mean the PS3 still has to get to mass market penetration price point. The Xbox 360 is doing so well in its 6th year as well.

But it seems MS will release their new console before Sony.
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(08-08-2011, 10:12 AM)
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Good. The last thing I want is to have the reset button pushed and we go back to shitty launch window tech demos and massive lulls in release schedules. I'm perfectly happy with the current consoles, and I don't think most publishers would be able to survive another massive hike in development costs.
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(08-08-2011, 10:12 AM)
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Loonz
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(08-08-2011, 10:13 AM)
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If this is true, this means that WiiU will be 2 years alone in the market?.

Iwata: "Laughs"?
polyh3dron
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(08-08-2011, 10:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by Ushojax

Good. The last thing I want is to have the reset button pushed and we go back to shitty launch window tech demos and massive lulls in release schedules. I'm perfectly happy with the current consoles, and I don't think most publishers would be able to survive another massive hike in development costs.

The PC version of Skyrim will run at 1080p/60FPS and great AA with the proper machine WITH NO ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT COSTS

DID I BLOW YOUR MIND
shagg_187
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(08-08-2011, 10:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by HolyTaco

Nah he's saying if they weren't able to make Skyrim feel fresh they would've waited till next gen, but they were able too (make it feel fresh)

Gah I meant Scrolls 5. Fail joke is failed.
phosphor112
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(08-08-2011, 10:16 AM)
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Im happy on holding off a new console. I'd rather see a next gen console with a huge technical jump over one that is rushed out the gate.

Go big or go home.
dragonlife
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(08-08-2011, 10:16 AM)
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Good. I'm one of those people who's content with the current consoles (plus WiiU).
BlazingDarkness
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(08-08-2011, 10:16 AM)
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I'm fine with that.
DryEyeRelief
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(08-08-2011, 10:16 AM)
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2014 is too soon
Medalion
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(08-08-2011, 10:17 AM)
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Wii-U will have quite a free ride till then
Krev
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(08-08-2011, 10:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by Sethos

And lots of people are still very satisfied with VHS.

That is a very dumb analogy.
BlazingDarkness
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(08-08-2011, 10:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by Loonz

If this is true, this means that WiiU will be 2 years alone in the market?.

Iwata: "Laughs"?

It'll be treated as another PS3/360 by developers, any hardware advantage will scarcely be used by developers outside of Nintendo.
GavinGT
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(08-08-2011, 10:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by Loonz

If this is true, this means that WiiU will be 2 years alone in the market?.

Iwata: "Laughs"?

There's no reason to counter the Wii U with new systems.
Always-honest
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(08-08-2011, 10:21 AM)
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Do Sony and Microsoft have a lot of Nintendo stock? Cause they really know how to make the playfield as comfortable as possible for Nintendo (if true).
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Loonz
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(08-08-2011, 10:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by BlazingDarkness

It'll be treated as another PS3/360 by developers, any hardware advantage will scarcely be used by developers outside of Nintendo.

I don't think Nintendo particularly cares, as long as WiiU gets support and is somehow ready for downports from the next Sony-MS consoles.

EDIT after reading antonz post: If WiiU managed to get enough userbase by the time MS-Sony next-gen consoles are released, wouldn't they suffer the same problem?. I mean, they would get up-ports form WiiU, in the beginning at least.

Originally Posted by GavinGT

There's no reason to counter the Wii U with new systems.

LoL Why?.
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antonz
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(08-08-2011, 10:23 AM)
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First off thread title should have been

Skyrim Boss guesses no PS4/720 before 2014.


Secondly leaving Nintendo to have 2+ years to build the Wii U base would be a disaster for MS and Sony. Even on the low end of power the Wii U will be packing enough to be a force to reckon with if the Wii U is allowed to get 20-30 million sales before the others even launch.
HolyTaco
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(08-08-2011, 10:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by shagg_187

Gah I meant Scrolls 5. Fail joke is failed.

Haha, I wondered if you were jokin bout the notch v Bethesda, Scrolls debacle but you said 6 sooo thought you were serious -_-

I'm pretty excited about the next gen of consoles, powerful PCs being ~10x the power of current console hardware, but so much of that is lost on overheads it'll be great to see such powerful hardware used properly in consoles.
daffy
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(08-08-2011, 10:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by polyh3dron

The PC version of Skyrim will run at 1080p/60FPS and great AA with the proper machine WITH NO ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT COSTS

DID I BLOW YOUR MIND

Is this masster race stuff necessary? reminds me of the PS3v360 garbage. My system better than yours nah nah nah nah anaaa

insufferable.
Rygar 8 Bit
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(08-08-2011, 10:24 AM)
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2050 is too soon I mean I only make 5 cents a day I can't afford it now!
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Originally Posted by Medalion

Wii-U will have quite a free ride till then

Well the developers won't ignore the 100 million PS3/X360 install base, so most probably it will get a lot of ports for the first two years.
BlazingDarkness
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(08-08-2011, 10:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by Loonz

I don't think Nintendo particularly cares, as long as WiiU gets support and is somehow ready for downports from the next Sony-MS consoles.

No but there's this WiiU free-ride mentality, but it won't have one, it'll be competing with current gen hardware, trying to get people to adopt to the WiiU and in a few years it'll be competing to try and keep WiiU owners from buying Sony and MS next systems, it's got the hardest job IMO - because Nintendo can't rely on the casual boom that the Wii favoured from.
Para bailar La Bomba
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(08-08-2011, 10:25 AM)
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Originally Posted by Medalion

Wii-U will have quite a free ride till then

Competing against two cheaper consoles?
dragonelite
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(08-08-2011, 10:28 AM)
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Seems to me he wants to release a new fall out for this gen consoles.
Or need till to 2014 to release a new game on next gen consoles.

Me only exclusive i think im getting is next year is either something from alan wake and halo 4. Rest is all pc gaming.
daakusedo
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(08-08-2011, 10:29 AM)
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2013
Medalion
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Originally Posted by Para bailar La Bomba

Competing against two cheaper consoles?

People like new-er technology, and Nintendo

Win win
dragonlife
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(08-08-2011, 10:31 AM)
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Originally Posted by dragonelite

Seems to me he wants to release a new fall out for this gen consoles.
Or need till to 2014 to release a new game on next gen consoles.

Your name is too similar to mine! For a second I thought it was my post. Then I saw the avatar.

Brother?
hiro4
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Originally Posted by Medalion

People like new-er technology, and Nintendo

Win win

Just like the 3DS.

oh wait....

still love you Nintendo <3
Chromax
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(08-08-2011, 10:32 AM)
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I'm fine with 2014.
Loonz
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(08-08-2011, 10:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by Para bailar La Bomba

Competing against two cheaper consoles?

We don't know Nintendo's pricing scheme for WiiU yet. PS3 and Xbox 360 will be cheaper than now by the time WiiU is released, that's for sure. I wouldn't bet at WiiU having a too steep price difference against those, and again, by when the PS4 and 720 (tentative names) are finally released Nintendo could play the "it's cheaper and already has catalog" card again.
DonMigs85
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(08-08-2011, 10:35 AM)
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Quite amazing that we're stuck with DirectX 9 technology until 2014.
Well, maybe Wii U will bring us DirectX 10 glory at least.
BlazingDarkness
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(08-08-2011, 10:35 AM)
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Originally Posted by Medalion

People like new-er technology, and Nintendo

Win win

The 3DS fiasco shows that consumers aren't particularly brand loyal, price comes first
Also, if the WiiU is subject just to up-ports prior to Sony/MS next consoles then it'll have a hard time shining as newer technology
Eggman
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Todd Howard is wrong.
Medalion
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Originally Posted by BlazingDarkness

The 3DS fiasco shows that consumers aren't particularly brand loyal, price comes first
Also, if the WiiU is subject just to up-ports prior to Sony/MS next consoles then it'll have a hard time shining as newer technology

If Nintendo can give a competitive price to even the 360/PS3 and have a good software launch lineup, they can avoid the supposed 3DS fiasco
mysteriousmage09
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(08-08-2011, 10:40 AM)
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Late 2013. That will be 7 years for the PS3 and 8 years for the 360, as well as a year or so with WiiU riding solo.
Always-honest
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(08-08-2011, 10:41 AM)
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Originally Posted by BlazingDarkness

The 3DS fiasco shows that consumers aren't particularly brand loyal, price comes first
Also, if the WiiU is subject just to up-ports prior to Sony/MS next consoles then it'll have a hard time shining as newer technology

No, the 3DS just doesn't have much to offer (yet).. And people aren't that blown away by 3D.
a1m
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(08-08-2011, 10:42 AM)
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I for one am satisfied with the PS3 and why not for the X360 at the moment and there really is no need for a new generation.

I'm not going to buy WiiU.

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