[Salazar]

why would you stop looking forward to reading it? Who cares if Terry Goodkind is one of the worst authors alive today? If you like him, you like him. Fuck the po-lice.

For real. And if Terry puts everything he has into a SoT book, it will be entertaining.

[Tyree]

Kahlan thought she was sleeping with Drefan (Richard's prostitute murdering half-brother). She was actually sleeping with Richard, but she didn't know it. After she had done it, with eventual consent and then erotic rapture, she said something like "don't tell Richard". And lightning cracked, showing his true identity, and Richard said "I think....Richard...already knows". *Kahlan scream* Which is simultaneously extraordinarily cheesy and a pretty badass scene.

Don't forget period blow jobs.

"When she took him in her mouth, she tasted her own blood. She forced herself to ignore the taste as she urged him to react."

[Salazar]

Don't forget period blow jobs.

Fair enough.

Memorable Character Quotes from Wizard's First Rule.

"Just remember, if anything goes wrong, you die first" - Richard. "Sometimes it's easier to make a decision if you aren't burdened with a knowledge of history" - Zedd. "I am more than a woman" - Kahlan. "You call this a proper escort ?" - Zedd. "I'll never look at an apple the same way again" - Richard. "I fear nothing but that I should fail you" - Nass. "The answer you want is within yourself. You must seek it" - Shar. "This looks a little too much like bait on a hook to me" - Richard. "You play a dangerous game, Confessor Kahlan" - Shar.

http://www.terrygoodkind.com/books-0...irstrule.shtml

MEMORABLE QUOTES. Terry's A game.

[icarus-daedelus]

"Graaaatch lug Raaaachaaaarrrg"

NEVER FORGET

[Salazar]

"Graaaatch lug Raaaachaaaarrrg" NEVER FORGET

Well yeah. That's a poignant bit they missed. Zedd's toasted toads stuff is also gold.

I'm glad Terry has revamped his website. The forums should be up and running soon.

http://fantasybookcritic.blogspot.co...-goodkind.html

Q: What was it like to write “Confessor”, knowing that it was the last book in the Sword of Truth series? Terry Goodkind: I didn't have time for any emotions because the schedule was so incredibly tight. I just didn't have time to ponder anything, I only had time to be in the world, in the book with the characters, writing their story. “Confessor” is a book that I've been waiting over a decade to write. I simply had to get it done. My publisher gave me a schedule for the book that was well outside my comfort zone, so I was writing “Confessor” on the ragged edge. I wrote the last 80 pages in one sitting, total stream of consciousness. I never re-read it, I just sent it off to the publisher. What you read in “Confessor”, the last 80 pages of the book, is what came up on my computer in one sitting, no editing, nothing. That's a decade worth of planning and just writing it out. It's raw Goodkind [laughs].

I adore that [laughs].

Nature cannot have a value independent of mankind, and this is what the environmental movement has become: a religion. They've ascribed value to nature absent mankind. They've ascribed value to nature, and so what happens is, whatever you do to harm nature, people say, "You've harmed this good thing, that makes mankind bad." They're using that line of philosophy to hate mankind, because mankind is detrimental to nature. They've turned nature into a religion, making into something that is holy without reality. If nature has value, it's for how mankind can use it. It's incumbent upon human beings to respect nature for their own rational self-interests. For example, poisoning a river is bad not because it hurts nature, because nature has no value in and of itself. It's bad because it [poisoning the river] hurts mankind. You poison the river and other people are going to get poisoned, and then you're infringing on their right to exist. You want clean air because you need clean air to breathe, to leave longer. Respect for the environment meant should be based on mankind's [needs].

Animals, with the exception of Brophy the man-wolf and Gratch the loveable Gar, can get fuuuuucked.

And for anybody with lingering doubts as to whether this fellow is a pernicious creep who deserves more contempt than GAF can collectively muster:

Take, for example, what we're doing in Iraq. The basic thing we're trying to do is enforce democracy. Democracy is a free-floating concept. There's no goodness [inherent] in democracy. Gang rape is democracy in action. Why should we enforce democracy? Why should we have Americans die so [Iraq] can elect a government who wants to kill us? It's stupid. Force should be used by a government just like it should be used by an individual: to prevent someone else from harm. That's the only valid, moral, ethical purpose of force: to protect your life. If somebody's trying to protect you, you should protect your life. We have Americans dying over there to enforce democracy so that [Iraq] can vote to kill us. It's absurd. There's nothing holy about democracy. The sidetrack of adopting slogans like "making the world safe for democracy"... it's a free-floating concept; there's nothing good [inherent in] democracy. Democracy can be good if it's supported by other ethical values; justice, for example, and not hurting other people. But we're not enforcing a moral form of democracy; we're just supporting the idea of democracy in general, and there's nothing more about democracy in and of itself.

[Arcblade]

Goodkind: Surname irony.

[Clevinger]

http://fantasybookcritic.blogspot.co...-goodkind.html I wrote the last 80 pages in one sitting, total stream of consciousness. I never re-read it, I just sent it off to the publisher. What you read in “Confessor”, the last 80 pages of the book, is what came up on my computer in one sitting, no editing, nothing. That's a decade worth of planning and just writing it out. It's raw Goodkind [laughs]. I adore that [laughs].

Are there any gems from those 80 pages, Sal?

[Salazar]

Are there any gems from those 80 pages, Sal?

Would you believe I threw away my copy ?

The TG website also says there are "exciting plans to take this movement offline", referring to the Wizard's Rules.

Which are:

1. People are stupid. They will believe a lie because they want it to be true; or they're afraid it's true. 2. The greatest harm can result from the best intentions. 3. Passion rules reason. For better or for worse. 4. There is magic in sincere forgiveness; in the forgiveness you give, but more so in the forgiveness you receive. 5. Mind what people do, not only what they say, for deeds will betray a lie. 6. The only sovereign you can allow to rule you is reason. 7. Life is the future, not the past. 8. Talga Vassternich. 9. A contradiction cannot exist in reality. Not in part, nor in whole. 10. Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self. 11. Unsaid but inferred.

Rules 8 and 11 are obviously for high tier Goodkind scholars.

[The Technomancer]

Wow, those are the Wizard's Rules? Two of them contradict each other, like three of them make no fucking sense and the rest are all obvious to anyone who's over five years old.

[Salazar]

Wow, those are the Wizard's Rules? Two of them contradict each other, like three of them make no fucking sense and the rest are all obvious to anyone who's over five years old.

I am hoping Terry starts some kind of Oath Keepers style movement of Wizards.

[Haly]

I reread 8 and 11 a few times just to make sure I wasn't missing something.

[Salazar]

I reread 8 and 11 a few times just to make sure I wasn't missing something.

Talga Vassternich, I read, means Deserve Victory in High D'haran, a Germanesque language.

Fuer ost grissa drauka is Richard's High D'haran title - Bringer of Death.

[No, Goodkind did not go to Tolkien's lengths in language creation. I believe that this is gibberish.]

[markot]

Gang rape is democracy in action.

>_>

[Salazar]

Gang rape is democracy in action. >_>

When you say you're fighting terror, there's no such thing as "terror" as an enemy. You're doing gang rape on 80 year-old Swedish grandmothers because you're afraid to say that the enemy are Middle Eastern men.

Gang rape is his go-to metaphor. And that passage above is when the interviewer should have said "woah, hold up. What ?"

[Zabojnik]

Like many others here, I too read Wizard's First Rule at a relatively young age and I remember enjoying it greatly. It had romance, sex and a lot of (sexual) violence. What's not to like, when you're 15 and horny? The second and third book were okay too, but after that even a young and stupid me started noticing the absurdity of the story and the terrible, terrible writing.

Same thing with Feist. Loved the first couple of books (and Betrayal at Krondor is still one of my favourite games!) and so I decided to stick with the author for a while, until it became clear that I was wasting my time. Of which I had plenty, back then.

Ah, to be young and impressionable. I think for us non-native english speakers the whole 'recognition' process takes more time. And no matter how good you get at understanding a foreign language ... you'll always percieve it as something that's exotic, misterious and fascinating, when compared to your own language. That had a lot to do with me enjoying Goodkind, I think. I hope.

[Clevinger]

You're doing gang rape on 80 year-old Swedish grandmothers because you're afraid to say that the enemy are Middle Eastern men.

That metaphor is so specific, as if he'd imagined that exact scenario before.

I wonder if in like 50 years, after he's dead, they're going to find a bunch of dead women under his house.

[AlphaDragoon]

Yeah, a prophecy that she had to betray Richard. Ordinarily, she and Richard weren't able to have sex, because her Confessor powers would be released at the point of orgasm and Richard would become a vegetable. Shota (milf witch, fancies Richard but thinks he is dangerous, keeps threatening to kill them or any offspring they conceive) engineered some magical way for them to fuck.

ROFL. Guess her powers don't work when she thinks she's fucking someone else, even when it's really him. This Goodkind guy sounds like a real champ at writing.

[Salazar]

Like many others here, I too read Wizard's First Rule at a relatively young age and I remember enjoying it greatly. It had romance, sex and a lot of (sexual) violence. What's not to like, when you're 15 and horny?

Yeah. I thought Zedd was hilarious, too. It is abundantly clear now that he is a botched Belgarath clone, but I thought he was kickass. Chase, too: ranger dude completely covered in knives.

[methodman]

I liked wizard's first rule when I was 12 and sort of had high hopes for the show. Show was embarrassing as all hell lol

[Salazar]

I liked wizard's first rule when I was 12 and sort of had high hopes for the show. Show was embarrassing as all hell lol

I don't know if it would have been better or worse if it had expressly followed the tone and events of the books.

Probably better, because Goodkind's crazy ideas > any of their writers' crazy ideas.

[Hari Seldon]

The series would have been truly awesome had Cinemax picked it up instead of the networks.

[Salazar]

The series would have been truly awesome had Cinemax picked it up instead of the networks.

Maybe. I just bought a few episodes to set the mood/build hype.

If Goodkind hates and had barely anything to do with the series, then it doesn't count as Feeding the Yeard.

[Arcblade]

My absolute favorite aspect of Goodkind's series is that, at the end of the day, it all boiled down to Rugby.

[Salazar]

My absolute favorite aspect of Goodkind's series is that, at the end of the day, it all boiled down to Rugby.

?

Do you mean Ja'La dh Jin ?

This strikes me as peculiar, incidentally.

With great power, came a great personal sacrifice for the remaining female confessors. A Confessor's power is always "on" and it is only because a Confessor is trained from birth to use her power "at will" that she does not Confess all around her. However, Confessors can lose control and confess people they don't mean to confess. Most notably, whenever Confessors made love with someone that caused a Confessor to enjoy great physical ecstasy, the Confessor lost her ability to control her power. Thus, a Confessor's loved one would lose their individuality after mating with a Confessor. After only one intimate experience, the mate becomes the Confessor's pawn and the mate loses any sense of individuality until the day the confessed person died. Sadly, the most ethical of Confessors chose to never make love to the man she really loved out of deep respect for his individuality. Confessors, instead, would pick mates for procreation purposes while remaining emotionally close to their true soul mate.

So some other dude gets his brain wiped and gets turned into a meaningless sex object. Awesome.

[Arcblade]

? Do you mean Ja'La dh Jin ?

I'm pretty sure he meant Rugby.

He simply refrained from using the proper name.

Probably due to some issues with democracy and anti-rape laws in Britain.

[icarus-daedelus]

Kahlan and Cara are both smoking hot in the tv series. Actually, so is Richard. It's too bad Zedd has to muck things up because there is some real eye candy going on in that show.

[Salazar]

Kahlan and Cara are both smoking hot in the tv series. Actually, so is Richard. It's too bad Zedd has to muck things up because there is some real eye candy going on in that show.

True. I respect that dude's abs. But this is beyond rescue:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMb0rw4QG7Q

This is so badass.

"THE OMEN MACHINE - This is the extraordinary story of what happens next in Richard and Kahlan's world now that the great war has ended. (A few have asked, and no, there is no connection whatsoever to THE LAW OF NINES.) I'm having a great time writing this book and can't wait for people to read it. From the first sentence you will be just as mystified as Richard, Kahlan, Zedd, and many of the other characters we've all come to care so much about. I can't say much more for now... except fear what is about to happen." - Terry Goodkind, December 2010

[06nbarnhill]

Chiming in for ONE post in this thread to say that this authors work is trash. Poor fantasy at best.......bigoted/predictable/chauvinist/unoriginal at worst. One of the maybe 3 fantasy authors in my entire life whose books have been so subpar that i could not finish them. Goodkind hasn't put a single subtle twist in any writing that I have read.

This is my only post so I am not seen as a troll but I feel compelled to post this by my massive disappointment in his work.



(this is an attack on his writing....not LOTS show....which is ok..../FAP)

[Clevinger]

I can't say much more for now... except fear what is about to happen.

There Will Be Blood Rape

[Salazar]

(this is an attack on his writing....not LOTS show....which is ok..../FAP)

[Arcblade]

There Will Be Blood Rape

Worse - a sequel.

[icarus-daedelus]

True. I respect that dude's abs. But this is beyond rescue: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMb0rw4QG7Q

but but but

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKdUWM4_LxY

[Salazar]

I concede the point, Icarus.

The show does gif well. It's either badass or silly: not much in between.

[nubbe]

but but but http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKdUWM4_LxY

omg thats porn!

miss the show :(

[Salazar]

It is also hair that she can't cut, or she blacks out from magical pain.

[methodman]

It is also hair that she can't cut, or she blacks out from magical pain.

Wonder if she's able to shave the vag

Yes I'm drunk

[Haly]

How many cows did they have to butcher to get all that leather?

Goddam.

[Clevinger]

It was worth it. Totally worth it.

[Salazar]

Mord Sith were one of the things the series mostly nailed - even if they skimped on the sexy sadism.

[icarus-daedelus]

The show does gif well. It's either badass or silly: not much in between.

Either way, it's done in slo-mo.

Really, the show is the guilty pleasure the books couldn't be for me because of the general rapeyness. Among other things.

miss the show :(

Me too dude. We may be the only ones, tho. :lol

[Salazar]

Me too dude. We may be the only ones, tho. :lol

I'll let you know once I've watched it. I'm starting from the beginning. No skipping.

[Husker86]

I'll let you know once I've watched it. I'm starting from the beginning. No skipping.

I liked the show, watched it before I read the books. Would have been amazing if Cinemax did it like said before haha.

[icarus-daedelus]

Mord Sith were one of the things the series mostly nailed - even if they skimped on the sexy sadism.

Honestly, they kept more of that than I expected. One episode in particular had some pretty kinky shit for a show produced by Disney - essentially keeping the 'Mord Sith tortures Richard 'til he loves her' angle intact.

Sadly, they did almost entirely excise the gore. No testiclephagia or tongue removal. What a shame!

[Salazar]

Legend of the Seeker premiered on the weekend of November 1–2, 2008 in the United States and attracted more than 4.1 million viewers over the two days. The first two episodes obtained an average of 1.5/3 Nielsen rating among 54 metered markets with a 1.4/3 rating on Saturday and a 1.7/3 rating on Sunday. In addition to improving its broadcast time periods in several top markets, Legend also improved the audience numbers in the key 18 to 49 year old demographic in all airings. Over its first month of airing, the show averaged more than 3.6 million viewers. It was renewed for a second season after obtaining a 2.0 household rating average for its first ten episodes.[5]

The season two premiere of Legend of the Seeker averaged 2.583 million viewers the weekend of November 7-8 with a 1.7 household rating.

That's not bad, is it ?

[Alfarif]

You know what's fucked up? I loved these books all the way up until Pillars of Creation. Faith of the Fallen is my favorite book. What's even more messed up is that I completely stepped over Terry Goodkind's Objectivist bullshit and took his words and spun them a completely different way.

I won't be reading this book. I haven't read any books after the Sword of Truth series (LOL @ the fucking ending)

And god damn at the Mord Sith in the show... so fucking hot.

[Salazar]

What's even more messed up is that I completely stepped over Terry Goodkind's Objectivist bullshit and took his words and spun them a completely different way.

If they had been fighting the Imperial Order because they were a violent bunch of unwashed brutes bent on rape and conquest, then I would have been entirely on Richard's side. But he hates them for their communitarian ideals. It is, pretty much, a strain of crude egalitarianism that bothers him, at least as much as the fact that these are belching misanthropes and killers.

If Jagang could have been eased out of power, and a less psychotic leader installed, I would have signed up for the Imperial Order in a flash.

[Alfarif]

If they had been fighting the Imperial Order because they were a violent bunch of unwashed brutes bent on rape and conquest, then I would have been entirely on Richard's side. But he hates them for their communitarian ideals. It is, pretty much, a strain of crude egalitarianism that bothers him, at least as much as the fact that these are belching misanthropes and killers. If Jagang could have been eased out of power, and a less psychotic leader installed, I would have signed up for the Imperial Order in a flash.

Wholeheartedly agree. How'd you like that all of the "wastes of life" were always old, always poor, always women who had too many children, or always young "hoods," but how Richard and his ilk were always the most upstanding of whatever Goodkind thinks deserves to exist?

I am still laughing hysterically at the final three books. Actually, anything after Pillars of Creation is just plain hilarious: Richard explaining magic to ZEDD for 30 damn pages, Richard preaching the world of Goodkind for 30 pages in Naked Empire... every 100 pages, an entire book dedicated to two of the most worthless characters ever written about, and story lines that were.... pointless. I honestly can't remember what Richard was doing during any of the books after Faith of the Fallen... and can someone explain what the hell Nicholas the Slide was?

(The comment Goodkind said about writing the last 80 pages without re-reading is starting to make all of his books make a LOT more sense now)

[Salazar]

Wholeheartedly agree. How'd you like that all of the "wastes of life" were always old, always poor, always women who had too many children, or always young "hoods," but how Richard and his ilk were always the most upstanding of whatever Goodkind thinks deserves to exist?

It is timelessly infuriating that he goes hacking his way into a bunch of people ("MOVE OR DIE") who are in favour of peace.

Seriously. The meathead who chops down categorically innocent people (THERE IS NO PEACE. MOVE OR DIE. MOVE OR DIE), and who is basically a Dalek with a charisma-bypass, is the heroic ideal.

The more I think about it, the more I am lured into resolving: yes, let's rid the world (and any new worlds Richard pulls out of his ass) of magic. I'll kill the fucken magical firefly creatures myself.

[Husker86]

The Slide was like a more powerful dreamwalker. Instead of stepping into and seeing a mind, he completely took control and became the body. Though now that I think about it he may not have been more powerful since he had to leave his body to do so. Been a while though so I may be misremembering.

[Salazar]

The court artist would have had a pretty cool power if it wasn't nerfed.

Although both James and Violet as well as Richard Rahl and Rachel are only able to cast spells by drawing pictures in a special cave outside of Tamarang called the Sacred Caves.

If you could take that shit on the road, you would destroy fools.