Lancehead
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Originally Posted by electricpirate: View Post
YOU CAN DO THAT?
If you've played the original Deus Ex, you'd know you definitely can.
Double D
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Originally Posted by I H8 Memes: View Post
It's not in the OP because it's a giant spoiler.
Well I would have loved to have been spoiled by it. Probably won't finish the game now because of it. Fuck these boss fights if I can't use Typhoon.
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Boss 3 really wasn't an issue for me.

Had a horrible time with the second, but the 3rd boss was defeated in a matter of seconds.

...I should really replay this now.
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Originally Posted by Ravensmash: View Post
Boss 3 really wasn't an issue for me.

Had a horrible time with the second, but the 3rd boss was defeated in a matter of seconds.

...I should really replay this now.
Well throw some pro-tips at me, brother. I'd love to continue, but just can't stand these boss fights. I don't even have time to figure out a strategy. I just die instantly. Really considering going all the way back to an old save and not switching out my chip.
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Originally Posted by Double D: View Post
Well I would have loved to have been spoiled by it. Probably won't finish the game now because of it. Fuck these boss fights if I can't use Typhoon.

Not sure if they patched it out or not, but position yourself where you can be on the other side of a wall from him. When he jumps over do a lethal or non-lethal take down on him.

Spoiler in vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elVCxc0hwBs


That video is from 9 months ago but youtube has some that were posted a month ago so I'm sure it still works.
Tess3ract
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(06-20-2012, 03:25 PM)

I just shot him till he died and didn't do anything to my existing onboard circuitry
Double D
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Originally Posted by I H8 Memes: View Post
Not sure if they patched it out or not, but position yourself where you can be on the other side of a wall from him. When he jumps over do a lethal or non-lethal take down on him.

Spoiler in vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elVCxc0hwBs


That video is from 9 months ago but youtube has some that were posted a month ago so I'm sure it still works.
Fantastic. I assume that after the fight my augs stop freaking out?
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Originally Posted by Lancehead255: View Post
If you've played the original Deus Ex, you'd know you definitely can.
I did, but on this one, everytime I hit one specific location it blew up. I figured at that point it was just scripted.

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Fantastic. I assume that after the fight my augs stop freaking out?
Bad news, you can't do that if your augs are turned off, also after you kill him you'll get your augs back

What weapons do you have on you? If you have an AR with the flechette upgrade you can spam him from behind cover.

if you don't, look around the room, the statues bases have weapons, in one there's a really powerfull laser rifle. If you are underarmed, grab it, it can shoot through walls.
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Originally Posted by electricpirate: View Post
I did, but on this one, everytime I hit one specific location it blew up. I figured at that point it was just scripted.



Bad news, you can't do that if your augs are turned off, also after you kill him you'll get your augs back

What weapons do you have on you? If you have an AR with the flechette upgrade you can spam him from behind cover.

if you don't, look around the room, the statues bases have weapons, in one there's a really powerfull laser rifle. If you are underarmed, grab it, it can shoot through walls.
God damnit that fucking sucks. Well, I actually have a laser rifle in my inventory. I tried to use it a couple times against him but he'd just instakill me.
Ape Gone Insane
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I'm going to start my second playthrough of this game soon. Is the DLC worth it? It's a shame they haven't released anything else. Doesn't seem to bode well for a sequel.
Double D
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Originally Posted by Ape Gone Insane: View Post
I'm going to start my second playthrough of this game soon. Is the DLC worth it? It's a shame they haven't released anything else. Doesn't seem to bode well for a sequel.
I really should have played this on PC. I bought this at launch for 360, barely played it, and returned to it a few days ago. Should have taken that as an opportunity to play it on my newly-rebuilt PC. I probably could have hacked my way out of this debacle I'm in if that were the case.
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Seriously man, can you go back and use spoiler tags in this post.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...ostcount=19897
Tess3ract
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As someone who's beaten the game I don't think it's that big of a deal. It's not really mentioned except once and the only real purpose is to do a switcheroo that makes a boss harder. I'm glad to have been spoiled on that before I got to that point in the game.
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It spoils nothing. If people haven't played this game yet, they deserve to know this in advance. If I could, I would seriously put it as the first line in the OP. It's maddening. And it serves as a tool to frustrate the player.
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Yes it is a spoiler. I would be pissed if I hadn't finished the game yet and read that. Don't intentionally spoil it just because you got frustrated over it.
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Originally Posted by I H8 Memes: View Post
Yes it is a spoiler. I would be pissed if I hadn't finished the game yet and read that. Don't intentionally spoil it just because you got frustrated over it.
This. Don't assume ANYTHING when talking about spoilers. I for one would be very pissed if I read that and haven't beaten the game.
We have the spoiler tags people, use them.
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Originally Posted by Double D: View Post
It spoils nothing. If people haven't played this game yet, they deserve to know this in advance. If I could, I would seriously put it as the first line in the OP. It's maddening. And it serves as a tool to frustrate the player.
You do realize that at that point in the game, it makes it painfully obvious that something's up, right? Even so, that's a massive fucking spoiler and you should fuckity motherfucking tag it, fuckhead.

Protip: grenades.
Double D
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I hate you guys. But goddamnit, I respect you.
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Originally Posted by Double D: View Post
I hate you guys. But goddamnit, I respect you.
I think you should tag the whole part starting from "the third boss". But that could just be me
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Thank you for using the spoiler. You did the right thing.
Double D
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I expect you guys to form a support group for me when I get home and try my hand at this guy later on. I can't remember a game that I've enjoyed so much but has also made me want to quit immediately during certain portions.
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Can't beat him. Threw every grenade I had at him and used every bullet I had. My closest save before the 'incident' is right before I leave Sarif with Malik and ultimately get the chopper shot out of the sky. I'm going to try and save her this time. Only problem is I currently have no sniper rifle, which I'm pretty sure would make this next thing pretty easy.

Can I acquire a Sniper Rifle at this point? Is there an armory at the Sarif Building?

edit: Nevermind about the sniper rifle. I just threw a grenade at the helicopter to help put her out of her misery quicker.
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Double D
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Does the side mission with Meng Yao change anything later on if I do it or not? I'd rather skip since I've already done it.
ElTopo
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As much as I'm enjoying the game, some sections are just way too long (and drag on). Question: I'm currently at (location spoiler) Detroit during the riots, any idea how far I am into the game ?
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Double D, if you still have your save against namir try blindfiring the laser. It has the advantage of being perfectly accurate even if blindfired. He can't hit you if blind firing.

Otherwise good luck getting back to him in a timely fashion.
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Originally Posted by ElTopo: View Post
As much as I'm enjoying the game, some sections are just way too long (and drag on). Question: I'm currently at (location spoiler) Detroit during the riots, any idea how far I am into the game ?
Depending on how much time you like to spend investigating your surroundings, you're probably around 3/5. The last few areas are quicker than the first three in the game, so the second half will likely go much quicker.
ElTopo
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Originally Posted by Typographenia: View Post
Depending on how much time you like to spend investigating your surroundings, you're probably around 3/5. The last few areas are quicker than the first three in the game, so the second half will likely go much quicker.
Thanks for the answer.
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MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
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Finished it. Can't say I've ever completed a game in the same sitting that I had to backtrack about 2.5 hours to start off. That last boss battle was confusing but overall much better than the rest. Was that one also outsourced or was it just the others?

Most of this game was excellent. Specific parts were grueling.
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I've already beaten this on PS3 but with the series on sale on Steam I think I can get Deus Ex: HR + The Missing Link for less than the DLC alone on Steam. Do I need to have a save file or anything for HR to play Missing Link or can I just jump in? Do augs or choices or anything carry over from the main game?
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Originally Posted by electroshockwave: View Post
I've already beaten this on PS3 but with the series on sale on Steam I think I can get Deus Ex: HR + The Missing Link for less than the DLC alone on Steam. Do I need to have a save file or anything for HR to play Missing Link or can I just jump in? Do augs or choices or anything carry over from the main game?

Completely separate from the main game. Disappointingly so.
ElTopo
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(06-22-2012, 05:53 AM)

Just finished the game. Short impressions (spoilers ahead):

What incredibly disappointing last few hours. What an incredibly stupid, easy and cliche final boss that comes completely out of nowhere. The story doesn't offer much closure, though that's hardly surprising given how little development there's been outside of how you get to understand Malik/David/Pritchard better. I have so many issues with the story, such as pacing, development, the enemies, closure, though I must admit I was really well entertained in the first 10-20 hours until I saw through everything.

Looking back I don't get the praise the game (or its soundtrack) got. It's a good game, but it's too repetitive in both setting and gameplay/level design, which is something Deus Ex managed to avoid (mostly). The soundtrack is decent ambient music with one or two good tracks, but not even close to the glory of the original Deus Ex (which is an unfair comparison I must admit). The story is pretty bad in hindsight, not to mention the whole "Hey, I'm trying to escape from this explosion and here's some pod, why not lie down in it ? Oh hey, look, I found the super secret base where the scientists are."

Good game, but ultimately a bit too boring/bland gameplay/level design, disappointing story, fun (but also annoying) boss battles, an awesome dialogue system, great (German) synchro, cool art design, some cool "scripted/cinematic events" and a lot of content, but it doesn't come close to Deus Ex. Still I wouldn't mind more games like this, I had a lot of fun with it.

Oh, scene after credits. Nice. At least a tiny bit.


Does any of the DLC tackle my issues with the story ?
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Tess3ract
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The pod thing actually goes into the missing link, that whole segment might as well have been ripped out of the game in order to do dlc.

Gonna have to disagree about the level design and gameplay though, they were top notch. The boss battles are shit, the music owns.

I never wanted the game to end.
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Originally Posted by Tess3ract: View Post
The pod thing actually goes into the missing link, that whole segment might as well have been ripped out of the game in order to do dlc.

Gonna have to disagree about the level design and gameplay though, they were top notch. The boss battles are shit, the music owns.

I never wanted the game to end.
My issues are that the level design itself doesn't vary too much compared to Deus Ex (and even that one would feel outdated to me these days) and that some levels just seem to drag on for too long. I must admit I liked the last level though, at least something different. It's funny, I didn't find the boss battles too annoying, but rather refreshing after hours of doing pretty much the same. Giving the player access to all augmentations from the very beginning also took away a bit.

Also the DLC explains the pod thing ? Well, at least something I guess. Still there doesn't seem to be any closure whatsoever, which is really disappointing. All you get is generic philosophical talk. I wouldn't mind if the game went on, but only because so much closure is missing.
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Originally Posted by Tess3ract: View Post
The pod thing actually goes into the missing link, that whole segment might as well have been ripped out of the game in order to do dlc.
It would be pretty weird to have a 4 hour long sidetrack that has little bearing on the main plot in the middle of the games climax
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Anyone else getting poor performance on this game? I have a gtx 480 and it keeps stuttering a ton. This shouldn't be happening.
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Originally Posted by eosos: View Post
Anyone else getting poor performance on this game? I have a gtx 480 and it keeps stuttering a ton. This shouldn't be happening.

Out in open areas? It's a bug. If you were to run an fps counter it would show normal high yet you would still have stutter.

There is a fan made fix for it but I cant remember the name of it or where to get it. There should be a link somewhere in this thread for it. You will have to run through the city once or twice to get all of the shaders cached and then it will be much smoother.
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Are there any fun mods for this game? I want to go back through it, was wondering if there was anything notable / fun.
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Originally Posted by eosos: View Post
Anyone else getting poor performance on this game? I have a gtx 480 and it keeps stuttering a ton. This shouldn't be happening.
Vsync it to 60 and it should be fine.
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Originally Posted by eosos: View Post
Anyone else getting poor performance on this game? I have a gtx 480 and it keeps stuttering a ton. This shouldn't be happening.
Make sure you use DX11 and possibly turn off tesselation. Make sure both v-sync and triple-buffering are on.
The Technomancer
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First time player here, I'm really loving it so far. I especially love how unique all of the augments are and how few of them rely on "boost statistic X by Y%". Although the game does seem a bit sparse on sidequests.
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Are there any fun mods for this game? I want to go back through it, was wondering if there was anything notable / fun.
Theres a few mods that make the game fun, if that's what you mean.

Like an increased inventory mod, a debug mod (want xp or praxis points? all the guns? here you go!)
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Originally Posted by The_Technomancer: View Post
First time player here, I'm really loving it so far. I especially love how unique all of the augments are and how few of them rely on "boost statistic X by Y%". Although the game does seem a bit sparse on sidequests.
Well, the playtime shouldn't be a complaint though. It took me about 50hrs to finish first time.
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Originally Posted by eosos: View Post
Anyone else getting poor performance on this game? I have a gtx 480 and it keeps stuttering a ton. This shouldn't be happening.
Yeah, try windowed mode. (No, really, try it. Actually. It works)

I spent a horrible amount of time changing all the settings, but I had insane stutter.

If you're getting the same, weird stutter that I was, windowed mode will work perfectly. And the window is boarderless which is nice.
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Originally Posted by goodfella: View Post
Yeah, try windowed mode. (No, really, try it. Actually. It works)

I spent a horrible amount of time changing all the settings, but I had insane stutter.

If you're getting the same, weird stutter that I was, windowed mode will work perfectly. And the window is boarderless which is nice.
Works perfectly, thanks. Wish I didn't have to do this though.
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Can't beat him. Threw every grenade I had at him and used every bullet I had. My closest save before the 'incident' is right before I leave Sarif with Malik and ultimately get the chopper shot out of the sky. I'm going to try and save her this time. Only problem is I currently have no sniper rifle, which I'm pretty sure would make this next thing pretty easy.

Can I acquire a Sniper Rifle at this point? Is there an armory at the Sarif Building?

edit: Nevermind about the sniper rifle. I just threw a grenade at the helicopter to help put her out of her misery quicker.

do u have the following 2-3 gas grenades,stun gun,emp grenades ?
Throw 1 gas grenade at those 2 heavy gunners.
1 emp at the mech.
after that take out the ground troops with stun gun.
I am assuming that u will be clocked whole time.
after u have done that u have got good time in ur hand,take out the sniper first then other.
did it on hard


soultron
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Yo, this game (with the DLCs and DE: GOTY Edition and DE: IW) are $15 on Steam this weekend. Tell yer frans and shit. Errbody needs to play this game.
CrocMother
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Just picked up 3 DLCs for ~$5. Two were <$1, the bigger expansion was $3.75.
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Originally Posted by CrocMother: View Post
Just picked up 3 DLCs for ~$5. Two were <$1, the bigger expansion was $3.75.
Yeah, me too. Playing through the game for the third (and probably last) time with the extras. Never played Missing Link or the Tong sideqest so it'll be interesting. Playing on Deus Ex difficulty and doin' all the sidequests. At Detroit city hub right now (the second time around, with all the riots and stuff).

Loving the pistol and double-barrel shotgun. Upgraded the pistol in particular to holy hell. Headshots are extremely satisfying. Also, I tried to make the game more challenging and interesting by only augmenting Adam in a certain order.

- I cycle through each body part per praxis point (after I spend a praxis point on Back for example, I have spend my next one on Skin). If I've completed a body part, I just skip it obviously.
- Within each body part, I go from left to right on augmentation chart. The augmentation must be fully completed (green color) before I skip to the next one
- The only choice I have comes within the augmentation tree itself. For example, within Stealth Enhancer, I can choose if I want to get "Last Known Location Marker" or "Mark and Track 1.0" first.

I'm using that Smart Vision playthrough, never used it on my others. Really useful. On the other hand, I've had to waste like 3 Praxis on that "walk quietly" augmentation that I never use ever. Also, I still haven't upgraded Hacking Capture past 1 and it's sooo annoying. I'm pretty sure you NEED at least level 2 or 3 to do some sidequests, as I've had to use those unlocking tools.
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Grabbed the entire $15 collection on Steam. Pretty pumped to play through this again! TML for the first time too.