[nickcv]

Combat is pretty typical MMO style for the most part. You just have lot of flexibility in such things as weapons you use and aren't locked into specific set ups.

can you elaborate more on that part?

the settings seems interesting, but i don't know if i still care about a game with wow-like gameplay...

[kSt]

All the animation is pretty awful so far

GAF told me that this is called euro junk.

[Effect]

can you elaborate more on that part? the settings seems interesting, but i don't know if i still care about a game with wow-like gameplay...

There are no classes or levels in the game. You buy various skills (around 500 I think they said) from various trees and can mix and match them. You can make builds and trade them and switch between them. So you can have a character using guns, with healing magic and something else. Then trade those skills out with more you've purchased(as you kill things you get skill points, easily I think they said) and have a character that uses destruction magic with crowd control abilities that uses melee weapons. So the system is skill based. The combination of what skills you have equipped are suppose to determine how enemies "con" to you and certain areas and dungeons will only let you and your group in if you have a certain combination of skillls spread across the group I think. Not sure if skills themselves can level up though.

Edit: Here's a video that explains the skill tree/system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F8tzNUORZ4 - Dev Diary: Skill Wheel

[Zaph]

This is the best Video right now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBSUg...tu.be&t=14m47s I have marked it with a awesome Dialog Cinematic. Only bad i can see are the Combat Animations, i hope they will be better now/at release.

Aside from the developer running a demo with the character's thong hanging out (seriously, why?), that actually looks genuinely interesting - thanks for the link.

Huge fan of the Longest Journey games, and Tørnquist's influence really does come across in the dialog during that cinematic.

Grabbed a beta key from Gamespot, lets do this!

[nickcv]

There are no classes or levels in the game. You buy various skills (around 500 I think they said) from various trees and can mix and match them. You can make builds and trade them and switch between them. So you can have a character using guns, with healing magic and something else. Then trade those skills out with more you've purchased(as you kill things you get skill points, easily I think they said) and have a character that uses destruction magic with crowd control abilities that uses melee weapons. So the system is skill based. The combination of what skills you have equipped are suppose to determine how enemies "con" to you and certain areas and dungeons will only let you and your group in if you have a certain combination of skillls spread across the group I think. Not sure if skills themselves can level up though. Edit: Here's a video that explains the skill tree/system. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F8tzNUORZ4

interesting system, but it's gonna be extremely hard to balance

[Tess3ract]

Just a reminder, even saying you're in the beta breaks nda.

GAF told me that this is called euro junk.

Think of APB. Like that.

[Effect]

interesting system, but it's gonna be extremely hard to balance

I wouldn't be surprised if they don't try to. It might be up to players to find out what balance works for them and that might be as far as they go because there might be so many combinations.

It's really this system that really sold me on the game in the end and got me to preorder. Even if it only comes somewhat close to working as intended I'll be happy. I'm tired of the strict class and level system in mmorpgs.

[syko de4d]

I wouldn't be surprised if they don't try to. It might be up to players to find out what balance works for them and that might be as far as they go because there might be so many combinations. It's really this system that really sold me on the game in the end and got me to preorder. Even if it only comes somewhat close to working as intended I'll be happy. I'm tired of the strict class and level system in mmorpgs.

what i find great about the system is that i can get EVERYTHING with one Char (only other Factions would need a new char) and i do not need to do the same quests 5 times only to get 5 different classes ^^

[Effect]

what i find great about the system is that i can get EVERYTHING with one Char (only other Factions would need a new char) and i do not need to do the same quests 5 times only to get 5 different classes ^^

This too. This was one of the (of the few) things I really liked about Final Fantasy XI and XIV. You had to grind some to build up the new class but didn't have to start a whole new character and do everything all over again.

Wasn't sure if this was in the opening post or was posted before. This is about the crafting system. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta4LTK4Z9Lk

[syko de4d]

crafting looks like Minecraft, u know u must put the right items in the right position to get one for example

--o----
oooooo
--o----

Could be a Sword or

ooooooo
-o-----o-
--o---o-
----o----

Is a Bow xD (okay no bows in game but yeahe..)

[Ashuron]

Oh, nice. Didn't think there would be any beta keys left in that gamespot link by the time I got home from work.

Thanks for the heads up.

[BattleMonkey]

The skill system is really neat, love the flexibility. The actual combat is kinda boring though. Don't know if it's the lack in polish on the visuals but it just feels off. The best aspect so far is combining your weapon/skills.

[kSt]

Welp, login screen theme was worth the wait and 27+ GB of disk space.

[vazel]

Some nice mission design. People fed up with generic MMO quests will want to give this game a try. I also like the humor I'm seeing. This year is looking to be jam packed with good RPG time sinks.

[derFeef]

There are some PAX videos showing gameplay, story, mission and UI and stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAPuy...feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FKwx...eature=related

edit: that skill with giant hammer coming out of nowhere is awesome in the second vid. He just seems to spam one attack though :-/
Skill wheel at 04:00

[BrLvgThrChmstry]

The skill system is really neat, love the flexibility. The actual combat is kinda boring though. Don't know if it's the lack in polish on the visuals but it just feels off. The best aspect so far is combining your weapon/skills.

I feel the same way in regards to combat as well and very well may be for the same reason. However, I am in love with the world/setting, lore, etc. I have yet to tinker with the crafting though...

[derFeef]

Uhm, are you guys in closed beta? if yes there is a NDA - only the weekend stuff is public.

[nickcv]

The skill system is really neat, love the flexibility. The actual combat is kinda boring though. Don't know if it's the lack in polish on the visuals but it just feels off. The best aspect so far is combining your weapon/skills.

I feel the same way in regards to combat as well and very well may be for the same reason. However, I am in love with the world/setting, lore, etc. I have yet to tinker with the crafting though...

aaaaand i'm out :(

i had my fair share of mmorpgs with cool world/setting/lore and a boring combat...

[CcrooK]

aaaaand i'm out :( i had my fair share of mmorpgs with cool world/setting/lore and a boring combat...

Yep. Agreed. Combat is blah. The rest is pretty cool.

[derFeef]

Yep. Agreed. Combat is blah. The rest is pretty cool.

What's blah about it?

[CcrooK]

What's blah about it?

It's your standard, tab target, press 1 - 4, pew pew stuff. The skills system as a whole looks interesting of how you can make your character. But eh. To be honest, the modern type of setting I'm not really interested. After my 100th zombie, I turned it off and called it a night.

[syko de4d]

u can still move while casting, thats sth. that the most MMO´s don´t have. Lets wait until they replaced all the Placeholder Animation.

[Isomac]

From what I have seen from the videos combat reminds me about Champions Online.

[BattleMonkey]

Some nice mission design. People fed up with generic MMO quests will want to give this game a try. I also like the humor I'm seeing. This year is looking to be jam packed with good RPG time sinks.

The quests are pretty standard MMO like 'kill x duders', they just do a neat job of presentation of them with alot of nice touches. Also the optional approach in how you do the steps of some quests is refreshing. Some puzzles included in the quests is real nice though, that always freshened things up in DDO for me.

From what I have seen from the videos combat reminds me about Champions Online.

Your kind of right, it does feel similar and a bit loose so far.

Uhm, are you guys in closed beta? if yes there is a NDA - only the weekend stuff is public.

I'm not, but playing on someone elses account whose in.

[Hari Seldon]

Just got an email about open beta for pre-orders. The marketing for this game sounds pretty good. Time to read more about it.

Edit: Nevermind, looking at it more I see screenshots of punk looking people fighting fantasy type monsters. Pass.

[vazel]

The quests are pretty standard MMO like 'kill x duders', they just do a neat job of presentation of them with alot of nice touches. Also the optional approach in how you do the steps of some quests is refreshing. Some puzzles included in the quests is real nice though, that always freshened things up in DDO for me.

Yea, after playing some more I came to the same conclusion. My standards are just so low when it comes to MMO quest design that the way it's done in Secret World felt so refreshing at first.

[Isomac]

Looks like they patched DX11 in to the weekend beta. Excited!

[Azzurri]

Combat is something they could fix, it just might take them awhile to revamp it.

[ROBOKITTYZILLA]

Still no beta invite. :(

[derFeef]

Still no beta invite. :(

have you tried the gamespot thing for the weekend?`I have on spare key if you want from them... but try it.

[Ricker]

Looks like they patched DX11 in to the weekend beta. Excited!

Yeah,just got a 590 MB patch for the beta weekend client and the game automatically checked DX11 in the options...will be interesting to see how it looks...first MMO with DX11...?

[Clever Pun]

Still no beta invite. :(

Did you try the key I posted earlier? Has it been used?

[derFeef]

Should we get a mumble server going or something for tomorrow? I don't know if you guys want that but we are already so few that it would be a good idea maybe.

[Kem0sabe]

As soon as i read that Funcom was planning to have an ingame cash shop with a subscription based game, i lost all interest...

Money grabbing bastards, after the ridiculously poor launch of AoC and this shit they be pulling with the business model of SW... bad way to service your fans.

[derFeef]

Only cosmetic items, clothing and stuff.

[Kem0sabe]

Only cosmetic items, clothing and stuff.

But if your paying a monthly subscription, shouldn't those items be accessible to you without having to pay more?

I have no problem with cash shops... in f2p games, but in sub based games, i don´t think it´s very fair to your paying customers.

[derFeef]

But if your paying a monthly subscription, shouldn't those items be accessible to you without having to pay more? I have no problem with cash shops... in f2p games, but in sub based games, i don´t think it´s very fair to your paying customers.

I don't think they will lock it out for ingame purchase, but that would be stupid, yes.
No idea how the public beta will show this stuff, I am very curious about those things too.

[WARP10CK]

As soon as i read that Funcom was planning to have an ingame cash shop with a subscription based game, i lost all interest... Money grabbing bastards, after the ridiculously poor launch of AoC and this shit they be pulling with the business model of SW... bad way to service your fans.

It`s gonna be interesting when we finally have a release to guild wars 2 and see how it does against that game.

I have no problem with the guild wars 2 model at all but I think they are shooting themselves in the foot with this one.

[derFeef]

Just to let you guys know there is another 1Gb patch for the public client, my DL speed is crawling so I better be updating today...

[Effect]

If the cash shop is just customization then I don't think there should be to much of an issue. Though interested in seeing just what they are going to do with it.

I noticed the new patch this morning when I started up the game again.

[Scirrocco]

Looking back into it forever, I was really disappointed though that the large scale pvp area was removed. PvP seems relegated to fight clubs and warzones. If ToRtanic has taught us anything is that pvp is more important then most devs seem to think. But still, TSW seems pretty impressive.

i mean, look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za3e6...ature=youtu.be

Holy crap. Last i heard they were scaling WoD online back. If thats scaled back... wow. I'll need a new computer for sure.

More on topic, here's another video. I don't think it was posted. An hour long video at the IGDA from back in april

http://vimeo.com/41723065

Still watching but it looks good so far.

Edit: Are they drinking beer while presenting?

IGDA must be the best conference in gaming.

[Effect]

Thanks for the new video.

[BattleMonkey]

Soooo buggy, I assume this game is pretty far off, or it better be.

[bloodforge]

Soooo buggy, I assume this game is pretty far off, or it better be.

Comes out June 19.


Been in closed beta for a few days now, game is a massive disappointment. It's just terrible.

[Kem0sabe]

Comes out June 19. Been in closed beta for a few days now, game is a massive disappointment. It's just terrible.

I have to say that this doesn´t surprise me coming from Funcom, after having played the AoC beta, and being promised time and again that they had a "magic build" ready for launch and that the poor state of the beta client was no indication of the final game...

I ended up buying AoC, but promised myself i would only buy another Funcom mmo if i got to try it beforehand extensively.


Gona try the beta weekend, managed to nab a key from gamespot.

[Bru]

Yeah,just got a 590 MB patch for the beta weekend client and the game automatically checked DX11 in the options...will be interesting to see how it looks...first MMO with DX11...?

LOTRO had DX11 patched in a while back but I don't know of any other MMOs with the option as of yet.

[Arksy]

Any way of attaining beta keys without pre-purchasing? Might want to try this.

[Bru]

Any way of attaining beta keys without pre-purchasing? Might want to try this.

If you sign up for free with GameSpot you should get a beta key (if they haven't run out).

[sykoex]

Wow, all this time I thought this was the CCP MMO. I signed up for the beta, finally got in, and played through a bit thinking this was the new thing from the guys who made EVE. I just closed it and thought well damn that's a bust... Reading this thread now I'm super relieved to find out this isn't the CCP mmo.

[derFeef]

Wow, all this time I thought this was the CCP MMO. I signed up for the beta, finally got in, and played through a bit thinking this was the new thing from the guys who made EVE. I just closed it and thought well damn that's a bust... Reading this thread now I'm super relieved to find out this isn't the CCP mmo.

How can you not be aware that it's not the CCP mmo?
I mean you register at a funcom site, you login in a funcom account, the funcom account is on the launcher and I bet there is a video etc.

?