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Xater · (08-30-2011, 07:07 PM)

Originally Posted by GrayFoxPL:

Yeah... Something I would finish this decade?

Leunam already recommended 2 pages and some books. I also recommended some books.

You could also just take a look at the Warhammer 40k rulebook. Besides the tabletop rules it should have the most essential lore. At least back when I was playing it had. I assume that is still the case.

derFeef · (08-30-2011, 07:08 PM)

Added the multiplayer trailer to the OT, I knew I forgot something ;)
Relic has sadly removed this 5 part insider series from youtube.

Tacitus_ · (08-30-2011, 07:08 PM)

Hmph, your faith in your corpse emperor is misguided. Revel in your bloodlust!

JoeBoy101 · (08-30-2011, 07:11 PM)

Originally Posted by Tacitus_:

Hmph, your faith in your corpse emperor is misguided. Revel in your bloodlust!

Burn heretic.

sykoex · (08-30-2011, 07:11 PM)

Is there anywhere that I can read a summary of what occurred in the many many years between the Warhammer and Warhammer 40k? Like how the races and civilzations in Warhammer evolved into what we have in 40k. I think I read somewhere that by now they've gone back on them being connected and just separated the 2 universes in the lore, but I'm still curious about it.

ultron87 · (08-30-2011, 07:11 PM)

I wonder if the Chaos Marines in single player will make a good case for being something roughly equal to the Space Marines in terms of durability and combat ability. (Not that any servant of the Dark Powers could ever hope to match up to a holy warrior of the Astartes.)

It'd be a nice change of pace from constantly steamrolling through ork hordes that the demo offered.

The Antitype · (08-30-2011, 07:13 PM)

/\

What they lack in power and dedication, the servants of the dark lords more than make up for in viciousness and deception.

Cannot. Fucking. Wait.

I've been looking forward to a game like this since the first time I played Dawn of War. I've put more hours into the Dawn of War games than I have any other PC game save maybe Quake 3 or Team Fortress 2.

I love the universe, I love Relic's respect for the universe, and I can't wait to be on the ground in the middle of the WH40K carnage.

And I'm going to choose Chaos for multiplayer, EVERY time. :D

Alienups · (08-30-2011, 07:17 PM)

They shall be my finest warriors,
these men who give of themselves to me.
Like clay I shall mould them,
and in the furnace of war forge them.
They will be of iron will and steely muscle.
In great armour shall I clad them
and with the mightiest guns will they be armed.
They will be untouched by plague or disease,
no sickness will blight them.
They will have tactics, strategies and machines
so that no foe can best them in battle.
They are my bulwark against the Terror.
They are the Defenders of Humanity.
They are my Space Marines
and they shall know no fear.

+ The Emperor of Mankind +

Vulcano's assistant · (08-30-2011, 07:19 PM)

Originally Posted by Xater:

And if you want to read more about the chapter of this game then read Graham McNeill's Ultramarines stuff: http://www.amazon.com/Ultramarines-O.../dp/1844164039

Damn it, I love this picture! Who is the artist of that and where was it featured?

http://kingmong.deviantart.com/gallery/

Yobalt · (08-30-2011, 07:21 PM)

Originally Posted by sykoex:

Is there anywhere that I can read a summary of what occurred in the many many years between the Warhammer and Warhammer 40k? Like how the races and civilzations in Warhammer evolved into what we have in 40k. I think I read somewhere that by now they've gone back on them being connected and just separated the 2 universes in the lore, but I'm still curious about it.

A couple of years ago there was a campaign in Warhammer Fantasy, I don't remember what the campaign was called, but it had special items that were basically ripped out of 40k. There was a powerfist, a flamer and so on. Different names of course.

So the universes are still kinda connected but more like Warhammer Fantasy is happening on a planet somewhere in the 40k universe.

Xater · (08-30-2011, 07:27 PM)

Originally Posted by Vulcano's assistant:

http://kingmong.deviantart.com/gallery/

Oh this guy is a GW illustrator. Some awesome stuff in this gallery. Thanks a lot for the link!

Meatpuppet · (08-30-2011, 07:28 PM)

Originally Posted by JoeBoy101:

As in the op. Warhammer 40K Wiki

Oh ffs... I totally have work to do!

Blood Angels all the way, fwiw

Keasar · (08-30-2011, 07:35 PM)

Originally Posted by JoeBoy101:

As in the op. Warhammer 40K Wiki

The superior wiki http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page

MedIC86 · (08-30-2011, 07:38 PM)

Originally Posted by sykoex:

Is there anywhere that I can read a summary of what occurred in the many many years between the Warhammer and Warhammer 40k? Like how the races and civilzations in Warhammer evolved into what we have in 40k. I think I read somewhere that by now they've gone back on them being connected and just separated the 2 universes in the lore, but I'm still curious about it.

I'm not really sure, but i was under the impression Fantasy and 40K were two different universes.

Tallshortman · (08-30-2011, 07:41 PM)

Man very tempted to get both this AND Resistance 3 on the 6th.

Leunam · (08-30-2011, 07:46 PM)

Originally Posted by sykoex:

Is there anywhere that I can read a summary of what occurred in the many many years between the Warhammer and Warhammer 40k? Like how the races and civilzations in Warhammer evolved into what we have in 40k. I think I read somewhere that by now they've gone back on them being connected and just separated the 2 universes in the lore, but I'm still curious about it.

No connection has been established by Games Workshop. There are a few things here and there that have minor connections, mostly in name only, but beyond that, they are two separate universes. Some fans like to think that Warhammer is some backwater planet in the 40k galaxy or in the Eye of Terror, but I don't remember any fluff that points to that besides wishful thinking.

Vilix · (08-30-2011, 07:47 PM)

Awesomesauce on the |OT|, derFeef. Gonna kill me some green skins, disimbowel some Chaos Marines, and learn how to play the ukulele. Not necessarily in that order though.

For Macragge!!

Xater · (08-30-2011, 07:48 PM)

Originally Posted by MedIC86:

I'm not really sure, but i was under the impression Fantasy and 40K were two different universes.

That's because they are.

I also don't quite understand why people are intimidated by the 40k universe. Just jump in into a game and enjoy it. You don't need to know anything to have fun with these games. And if you enjoy the what you see you can start reading up some stuff that you don't understand or read some of the books. Jumping down the rabbit hole ahead of time might be a mistake because that is when you think this is all too much. I didn't start out knowing everything.

derFeef · (08-30-2011, 07:52 PM)

Originally Posted by Xater:

That's because they are.

I also don't quite understand why people are intimidated by the 40k universe. Just jump in into a game and enjoy it. You don't need to know anything to have fun with these games. And if you enjoy the what you see you can start reading up some stuff that you don't understand or read some of the books. Jumping down the rabbit hole ahead of time might be a mistake because that is when you think this is all too much. I didn't start out knowing everything.

A friend of mine just dislikes "scifi" but he likes the Warhammer stuff (mainly dwarfs). I tell him that 40k is not really scifi and he just goes.... "It is boring, unimaginative stuff". then I roll my eyes and go on. It's not for everyone, I guess.

The Wise Old Man · (08-30-2011, 07:55 PM)

Typo in the OT:

"There will be some form of coop patched in past release. Details will follow."

Keasar · (08-30-2011, 07:55 PM)

Originally Posted by sykoex:

Is there anywhere that I can read a summary of what occurred in the many many years between the Warhammer and Warhammer 40k? Like how the races and civilzations in Warhammer evolved into what we have in 40k. I think I read somewhere that by now they've gone back on them being connected and just separated the 2 universes in the lore, but I'm still curious about it.

The Warhammer Fantasy and 40K are two different universes, the Warhammer Fantasy universe plays out in its own world while the 40K is based on our own, 40.000 years into the future (mankind comes from Terra (earth), expands and so forth).

pedr0theli0n · (08-30-2011, 07:56 PM)

where did this come from? looks awesome. wish we knew more about co-op though. I think I'd take that over competitive multi

SapientWolf · (08-30-2011, 08:01 PM)

Originally Posted by Xater:

That's because they are.

I also don't quite understand why people are intimidated by the 40k universe. Just jump in into a game and enjoy it. You don't need to know anything to have fun with these games. And if you enjoy the what you see you can start reading up some stuff that you don't understand or read some of the books. Jumping down the rabbit hole ahead of time might be a mistake because that is when you think this is all too much. I didn't start out knowing everything.

Every single 40k thread I've ever read has spawned a lengthy discussion about the universe and backstory. Once the conversation gets going you can't help but be intrigued and overawed.

FeD.nL · (08-30-2011, 08:03 PM)

Wow, wonderful OT. Can't wait for the game.

Vilix · (08-30-2011, 08:11 PM)

Originally Posted by SapientWolf:

Every single 40k thread I've ever read has spawned a lengthy discussion about the universe and backstory. Once the conversation gets going you can't help but be intrigued and overawed.

That's what got me interested in the game. Started reading about the lore after the first pics and videos were posted back in 2009.

By the by, there's a GM store not too far from my house. Went and spoke to a couple of the folks over there and they told me that there was a relation between Warhammer and Warhammer 40k - Warhammer being the precursor to WH40K obviously. However, ever since Games Workshop got the official license to sell and promote Lord of The Rings they split them in two and is making Warhammer it's own entity with no relation to 40k.

Mithel · (08-30-2011, 08:12 PM)

Originally Posted by Keasar:

The superior wiki http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page

I dispute this assertion. Tyranid article on the wikia is twice as long and much more entertaining.

Nekrono · (08-30-2011, 08:12 PM)

Very nice OT, I'm really looking forward to this the only thing that is keeping me from ordering this on Steam right now is impressions regarding the length of the game, if it gets repetitive/boring, and if the MP is fun, but the demo was very good and let me have high hopes for it.

deim0s · (08-30-2011, 08:14 PM)

Are there any platform specific videos? Thinking about getting this on the PC or on PS3.

For anyone wanting some Chaos Marine love - get the books by Dembski-Bowden, and Graham McNeil's Storm of Iron, they're a solid read.

Nekrono · (08-30-2011, 08:16 PM)

Originally Posted by deim0s:

Are there any platform specific videos? Thinking about getting this on the PC or on PS3.

For anyone wanting some Chaos Marine love - get the books by Dembski-Bowden, and Graham McNeil's Storm of Iron, they're a solid read.

What are your PC specs? This game seems really well optimized and I think most PC's nowadays could handle it just fine.

derFeef · (08-30-2011, 08:16 PM)

Originally Posted by deim0s:

Are there any platform specific videos? Thinking about getting this on the PC or on PS3.

For anyone wanting some Chaos Marine love - get the books by Dembski-Bowden, and Graham McNeil's Storm of Iron, they're a solid read.

DF has a comparison between the console versions.

Vilix · (08-30-2011, 08:18 PM)

Originally Posted by deim0s:

Are there any platform specific videos? Thinking about getting this on the PC or on PS3.

From what I've heard the 360 and PS3 versions are identical. 30fps locked. Someone said they thought the PC version was running at 60fps. But, I cannot confirm this.

DeathIsTheEnd · 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by Vilix:

That's what got me interested in the game. Started reading about the lore after the first pics and videos were posted back in 2009.

By the by, there's a GM store not too far from my house. Went and spoke to a couple of the folks over there and they told me that there was a relation between Warhammer and Warhammer 40k - Warhammer being the precursor to WH40K obviously. However, ever since Games Workshop got the official license to sell and promote Lord of The Rings they split them in two and is making Warhammer it's own entity with no relation to 40k.

It actually started to occur before then, with the removal of the squats who were just dwarfs in space, though Black Library publications still show they're connected.

The Liber Chaotica features a Norseman, I think, who dreams about various elements of Chaos in the 40k universe. From older publications we know there is a massive link with the Old Ones, who were an extremely advanced race(s) responsible for helping develop races and interacted with the warp in both Warhammer and 40k.

However much GW decries it now there is a link and most believe the Warhammer planet is within the Eye of Terror in 40k.

Coen · (08-30-2011, 08:28 PM)

I have a feeling this will be 2011's Arkham Asylum.

Zeth · (08-30-2011, 08:31 PM)

Edit: nm

Great post!

steadfast · (08-30-2011, 08:33 PM)

Originally Posted by derFeef:

DF has a comparison between the console versions.

The fantastic PC performance and now near-identical console performance bodes quite well for Darksiders 2. I wonder if this is the tech they'll be using in Dark Millennium as well.

Zeth · (08-30-2011, 08:34 PM)

Originally Posted by Coen:

I have a feeling this will be 2011's Arkham Asylum.

When I put down the demo that's exactly what I was thinking. The gameplay is there IMO. Just hoping there's enough content and variety now.

The Technomancer · (08-30-2011, 08:34 PM)

Originally Posted by SapientWolf:

Every single 40k thread I've ever read has spawned a lengthy discussion about the universe and backstory. Once the conversation gets going you can't help but be intrigued and overawed.

Its always fascinating to watch. Based on what I've picked up the creators of the 40k universe said "we're basically going to make this thing as big as we possibly can, fuck it" and then went all out with the ridiculousness. And yet...they fleshed it out to the point that it works

Nekrono · (08-30-2011, 08:36 PM)

Originally Posted by Coen:

I have a feeling this will be 2011's Arkham Asylum.

I really hope so man, but somehow I feel this game will be lacking "something", I don't know I hope I'm wrong.

rukland · (08-30-2011, 08:36 PM)

Originally Posted by Mithel:

I dispute this assertion. Tyranid article on the wikia is twice as long and much more entertaining.

That is only because the nids are the one true race in the galaxy. They will survive long after everyone else is gone.

Hmm my TT army must be taking over me

DimmuBurgerKing · (08-30-2011, 08:39 PM)

Originally Posted by Vilix:

From what I've heard the 360 and PS3 versions are identical. 30fps locked. Someone said they thought the PC version was running at 60fps. But, I cannot confirm this.

It's hard to say. I played the 360 and PC demos back to back, and it seemed to me that the PC version ran more smoothly. To my admittedly untrained eye, the difference looked most apparent during that scene with the Servoskull collecting data.

Vilix · (08-30-2011, 08:39 PM)

Originally Posted by The_Technomancer:

Its always fascinating to watch. Based on what I've picked up the creators of the 40k universe said "we're basically going to make this thing as big as we possibly can, fuck it" and then went all out with the ridiculousness. And yet...they fleshed it out to the point that it works

Space zombies? Why the heck not?! :)

Tallshortman · (08-30-2011, 08:40 PM)

Originally Posted by Vilix:

From what I've heard the 360 and PS3 versions are identical. 30fps locked. Someone said they thought the PC version was running at 60fps. But, I cannot confirm this.

PC demo was running with vsync locked at 60 fps (using fraps).

deim0s · (08-30-2011, 08:44 PM)

Originally Posted by DeathIsTheEnd:

The Liber Chaotica features a Norseman, I think, who dreams about various elements of Chaos in the 40k universe.

Can't pull out the book (in storage) - Yes, the scribe who wrote the book did see some images of Space Marines (Chaos?) and glimpses of the world of 40k.

@Nekrono
No problem on the PC side, which is my main gaming machine and I'm upgrading soon with a new beefy rig.

I'm just probably more concerned on the number of MP peeps post-launch.

Originally Posted by Vilix:

Space zombies? Why the heck not?! :)

They're called Necrons.

Vilix · (08-30-2011, 08:49 PM)

Originally Posted by deim0s:

They're called Necrons.

Necrons, Space Zombies, Hello Kitty Dick Bubbles, whatever... They all must be destroyed.

DeathIsTheEnd · (08-30-2011, 08:54 PM)

Originally Posted by deim0s:

They're called Necrons.

There's also plague zombies.

Unity2012 · (08-30-2011, 08:55 PM)

What a great, put together, thread.

KUDOS!!!!

One more week before we can all get our hands on SM!

Herla · (08-30-2011, 09:01 PM)

Originally Posted by bigdaddygamebot:

This gentleman would like to explain to you the flaw in the Space Wolves gene seed.

Flaw? I call it evolution.

derFeef · (08-30-2011, 10:22 PM)

Originally Posted by Unity2012:

What a great, put together, thread.

KUDOS!!!!

One more week before we can all get our hands on SM!

Thanks :)
Plus 4 days for me sadly. will be hard seeing you guys play.

bigdaddygamebot · (08-30-2011, 10:25 PM)

Alright guys.

The gamertag is...

GAF40K

send a friend request and I'll get the whole thing rolling. Then you can friend of a friend creep in order to find people for multi and eventual co-op.

rukland · (08-30-2011, 10:25 PM)

Originally Posted by Herla:

Flaw? I call it evolution.

And I call it a bunch of puppies playing at being real marines.

We see people with our hearts, not our eyes
We believe in beauty of the soul, not of the flesh
We believe in individuality, not prejudice
Our souls do not need saving, for they are not in peril
Just because we aren't saints
It doesn't mean we'll burn in hell.

~ Dark Angel's Creed ~