99%
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(04-09-2012, 07:02 PM)
#9351

It just feels odd I can't explain it. I never liked the monk in D1 either.

It somehow reminds me of playing Too Human, dude is sliding everywhere.
secretanchitman
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(04-09-2012, 07:06 PM)

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#9352

Originally Posted by 99%: View Post
It just feels odd I can't explain it. I never liked the monk in D1 either.

It somehow reminds me of playing Too Human, dude is sliding everywhere.
i must be the only one who loves the monk. the witch doctor is by far my least favorite imho.
99%
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(04-09-2012, 07:09 PM)
#9353

You don't feel like he is sliding around?

It's good there's people liking him too I guess, but I have seen only a handful while playing beta.
nacire
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(04-09-2012, 07:17 PM)

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#9354

Originally Posted by Wolfie5: View Post
Barbarian video is up:
http://www.ign.com/videos/2012/04/09...potlight-video

Looks like IGN gets these videos first.
Damn the wait is getting tougher and tougher!
Svafnir
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(04-09-2012, 07:17 PM)

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#9355

Honestly the monk is by far my favorite, with witch doctor and demon hunter being my least
Artanisix
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(04-09-2012, 07:19 PM)

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#9356

That monster at the end of the Barbarian video o_O

That got me mega-hyped.
kirblar
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(04-09-2012, 07:22 PM)

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Originally Posted by secretanchitman: View Post
i must be the only one who loves the monk. the witch doctor is by far my least favorite imho.
Complete opposite here- love the W.D., can't stand the Monk. (He feels too slow/unresponsive for me.)
GhostRidah
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(04-09-2012, 07:30 PM)

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Originally Posted by 99%: View Post
I still can't decide which class to pick after playing so much beta it's ridiculous.

Witch Doctor
Seems to have the most potential as far as different builds and playstyles go. Play with pets, or without. The issues I see are a dependence on Soul Harvest, which seems to be OP almost. Also I don't really like the voice of the character, his posture and his sounds. But besides that this class has much variety and I love it (the armor progression is sweet ass too).

Wizard
Great, great feel while playing this one. Every skill and sound just has the right feeling to it. Very powerful, Arcane Orb seems a bit too much even... But I dont like the armor progression looks and I think the gameplay might be a bit one sided. Also everyone and their mother will roll a wizard it seems.

Demon Hunter
Love the fact that he has traps and is ranged, class has a nice feeling to it. But until level 13 there isn't a skill that I just love of firing like Dire Bats for WD or Arcane Orb for Wizard. Rapid Fire lacks the UMPF factor for me.

Barbarian
Best itemisation so far in the game, feels very nice to run around and smack things. I fear being forced into a tank role later on and as with Wizard everyone will have a Barbarian it seems too.

Monk
Lame class, please delete and replace with something else.
I feel almost the same way, Monk is such a let down, and it was my most wanted class, after playing beta the class feels incomplete.
Calidor
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(04-09-2012, 07:38 PM)

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Originally Posted by 99%: View Post
I still can't decide which class to pick after playing so much beta it's ridiculous.

Witch Doctor
Seems to have the most potential as far as different builds and playstyles go. Play with pets, or without. The issues I see are a dependence on Soul Harvest, which seems to be OP almost. Also I don't really like the voice of the character, his posture and his sounds. But besides that this class has much variety and I love it (the armor progression is sweet ass too).

Wizard
Great, great feel while playing this one. Every skill and sound just has the right feeling to it. Very powerful, Arcane Orb seems a bit too much even... But I dont like the armor progression looks and I think the gameplay might be a bit one sided. Also everyone and their mother will roll a wizard it seems.

Demon Hunter
Love the fact that he has traps and is ranged, class has a nice feeling to it. But until level 13 there isn't a skill that I just love of firing like Dire Bats for WD or Arcane Orb for Wizard. Rapid Fire lacks the UMPF factor for me.

Barbarian
Best itemisation so far in the game, feels very nice to run around and smack things. I fear being forced into a tank role later on and as with Wizard everyone will have a Barbarian it seems too.

Monk
Lame class, please delete and replace with something else.
Haha you described me perfectly!

I'm probably going for a main Wizard and Alt/HC Barb

PS: I agree, Monk is shit
AllIsOneIsNone
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(04-09-2012, 07:41 PM)

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#9360

Weird, monk looks awesome to me. Speed melee/healer build? I can't see that being bad.
Lothars
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(04-09-2012, 07:42 PM)

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#9361

Originally Posted by Yoshichan: View Post
Paladin please.
Originally Posted by Raide: View Post
Mained a Pala in D2, would love it to come back but Monk does look pretty awesome. I am guessing many are just not feeling it.
I would love a paladin in D3 and hope he comes with an expansion but I have no issues with the Monk, I think he's a pretty good class.
hobart
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(04-09-2012, 07:44 PM)

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I used to be a Monk hater. I am now a Monk lover.

I've played a bunch. Gave Monk another shot... and now I think he fits really well. It's really all about playstyle. For those of you who have spent a significant amount of time with the beta... specifically focusing on different playstyles within certain classes... you can really get a feel as to what Diablo is trying to do with each class. Simply put... some skills just do NOT go with one another.

Once you get a feel for how you like a character to play and combine that with your particular style... the game really fits like a glove.

To further cement this, I can honestly see myself rolling and maining ANY of the 5 current classes. That's how much I love each class. And I know for a fact, that my skill choices may very well vary GREATLY from the next person. Love it.

And let me make this clear... I HATED Monk and Wizard for a LONG time. Now I love them. It's about putting the right skills with the right keybind. I've done a couple quirky things that may be unique to me (binding keys near the shift button, mapping move-only) that have really made the characters feel a whole lot more useful to me.
garath
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(04-09-2012, 07:54 PM)

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#9363

The Demon hunter and monk are probably my favorite classes. I like the Wizard the least - too slow, range too small. Barbarian is high on my list as well.

I am hard pressed deciding what to play come release. Leaning Demon hunter to duo with my friend and a monk or Barbarian to solo and jump in random co-ops with.
foladar
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(04-09-2012, 07:57 PM)
#9364

Originally Posted by secretanchitman: View Post
i must be the only one who loves the monk. the witch doctor is by far my least favorite imho.
I'm split between barb/monk personally for my main, wiz is likely my secondary toon. Not a big fan of Witch Doctor either.
aliencowz7
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(04-09-2012, 07:57 PM)
#9365

Considering they already have 3 exspansions for d3 planned i can't imagine we wont see some of the missing stuff from d2 at some point. Some kind heavily armored sword and shield user like the pally and probably a dark magic like user similar to the necro.

I am curious how these classes will evolve as they are leveled up and get better gear though so I am unable to pick what i want to play yet.
Raide
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(04-09-2012, 07:59 PM)

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#9366

Originally Posted by aliencowz7: View Post
Considering they already have 3 exspansions for d3 planned i can't imagine we wont see some of the missing stuff from d2 at some point. Some kind heavily armored sword and shield user like the pally and probably a dark magic like user similar to the necro.

I am curious how these classes will evolve as they are leveled up and get better gear though so I am unable to pick what i want to play yet.
Would prefer Druid to make a comeback. Necro and Pala is kinda already around with the Monk and WD (Of sorts)
sorijealut
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(04-09-2012, 08:00 PM)

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#9367

Love that Barbarian focus.

Anyone else pause the video to see armor/weapon stats?
Why are stat bonuses so huge?!
aliencowz7
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(04-09-2012, 08:02 PM)
#9368

Originally Posted by Raide: View Post
Would prefer Druid to make a comeback. Necro and Pala is kinda already around with the Monk and WD (Of sorts)
I was thinking about druid but the WD is kind of a meld of necro and druid so i was trying to think of parts of the classes that aren't represented. Probably be between a pure dark magic user with no summons and a shape shift druid since the other parts of the two classes are represented. I would be down with any of them though really and im sure with 3 exspansions planned + whatever else they add we will get more then a couple new classes.
Raide
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(04-09-2012, 08:04 PM)

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#9369

Originally Posted by aliencowz7: View Post
I was thinking about druid but the WD is kind of a meld of necro and druid so i was trying to think of parts of the classes that aren't represented. Probably be between a pure dark magic user with no summons and a shape shift druid since the other parts of the two classes are represented. I would be down with any of them though really and im sure with 3 exspansions planned + whatever else they add we will get more then a couple new classes.
An expanded Shape-shifting Druid could be pretty awesome. Loved playing one in D2.
Lothars
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(04-09-2012, 08:05 PM)

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Originally Posted by aliencowz7: View Post
Considering they already have 3 exspansions for d3 planned i can't imagine we wont see some of the missing stuff from d2 at some point. Some kind heavily armored sword and shield user like the pally and probably a dark magic like user similar to the necro.

I am curious how these classes will evolve as they are leveled up and get better gear though so I am unable to pick what i want to play yet.
I thought they had two expansions planned but either way I suspect each expansion we will get 2 classes with the Druid and Paladin making a reappearance as well as stuff like charms coming back.
aliencowz7
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(04-09-2012, 08:05 PM)
#9371

Originally Posted by Raide: View Post
An expanded Shape-shifting Druid could be pretty awesome. Loved playing one in D2.
Yeah i agree, was always more fond of shapeshift druids then the elemental ones. Something about ele druids seemed silly and out of place to me. Although i guess a pally teleporting around throwing magical 1 shot hammers was just as bad if not worse then a druid throwing rapid fire tornados.

Think it was 3 on the leaked blizzard memo that ended up pretty much getting everything right so far, I could be remembering wrong though as it was some time ago.
kirblar
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(04-09-2012, 08:08 PM)

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#9372

The problem with the Druid is that WoW's Druid took tons of inspiration from the D2 class, and Blizzard would probably want to differentiate their design.

A Ranger-type class wouldn't surprise me- taking aspects of the Hunter(WoW) and Druid and making something unique.

edit: The leaked Blizzard memo had two expansions on deck. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=173254
Last edited by kirblar; 04-09-2012 at 08:11 PM.
aliencowz7
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(04-09-2012, 08:13 PM)
#9373

Originally Posted by kirblar: View Post
The problem with the Druid is that WoW's Druid took tons of inspiration from the D2 class, and Blizzard would probably want to differentiate their design.

A Ranger-type class wouldn't surprise me- taking aspects of the Hunter(WoW) and Druid and making something unique.

edit: The leaked Blizzard memo had two expansions on deck. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=173254
I would be down with a more traditional ranger class, kind of like what everquest 1 had with bow + nature spells and some minor pet stuff.

You are correct on the 2 xp, I must of remembered it wrong.
LordCanti
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(04-09-2012, 08:15 PM)

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I can't see myself playing a Barbarian. I'd be a nervous wreck waiting for the next health orb, and without being able to spam potions, I don't know how long I'd last. One lag spike and it seems like it would be over. I maxed a barb in D2 though, so I can't say I'm not considering it.

I'm really between DH and Wizard. Both seem overpowered due to how fast they regen energy (hatred/fury/whatever). With the rune that makes rapid shot take less hatred (or whatever it uses) I was taking the boss down about half way with a measly 40 or so DPS before needing to fire off a couple bola's to regen it. Combined with Caltrops and bola shot, nothing could really touch me. The same goes for using Arcane Orb's as a Wizard. I could see myself as a higher level player of either class, standing back a bit and doing pretty extensive damage.

WD and Monk didn't appeal to me at all.
Artanisix
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(04-09-2012, 08:15 PM)

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#9375

Shapeshifting holy angel ranger with guns.
FrontalMonk
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(04-09-2012, 08:18 PM)

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#9376

Originally Posted by Raide: View Post
Would prefer Druid to make a comeback. Necro and Pala is kinda already around with the Monk and WD (Of sorts)
with the concentration more on a small group of pets and the elemental-ish spells like Fire Bats, WD reminds me more of Druid than it does Necro. When I first saw it I thought it looked like Necro, but when I played it, Druid kept coming to mind.
TylerD
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(04-09-2012, 08:18 PM)

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Beta Patch 16 incoming! #9377

Deets:

Quote:
The Diablo III beta is currently undergoing maintenance as we prepare to deploy the next beta patch. We anticipate that downtime will last for about 8 to 9 hours, until approximately 8:00 p.m./9:00 p.m. PDT.
Please note that Beta Patch 16 will include a character wipe. As with previous character wipes, this wipe will also affect gold, achievements, items, followers, and artisans.

Thank you for your patience!
Realyn
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(04-09-2012, 08:20 PM)

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#9378

Places in barb video look amazing. Sooooo can't fkn wait. One more month :((
kirblar
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(04-09-2012, 08:20 PM)

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#9379

Definitely expecting a Witch Doctor DPS hit with this patch.
99%
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(04-09-2012, 08:47 PM)
#9380

Yeah and maybe a redesign to Soul Harvest.
Sothpaw
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(04-09-2012, 08:48 PM)

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Originally Posted by kirblar: View Post
Complete opposite here- love the W.D., can't stand the Monk. (He feels too slow/unresponsive for me.)
Same. Monk feels like I'm playing a console game.
Realyn
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(04-09-2012, 08:51 PM)

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#9382

Read through the last pages and stumbled on the class post. Sadly I never had the chance to play the beta. I'm gonna start HC right away and thought about a DH first.
Don't get me wrong, most likely I'll die the first time before I even get to Diablo, but a ranged class should be good to get a "feeling" for the game.

Is a DH really that boring to play? Or are the other classes more exciting? Could someone compare a DH<>Amazon ?
aliencowz7
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(04-09-2012, 08:53 PM)
#9383

Originally Posted by Realyn: View Post
Read through the last pages and stumbled on the class post. Sadly I never had the chance to play the beta. I'm gonna start HC right away and thought about a DH first.
Don't get me wrong, most likely I'll die the first time before I even get to Diablo, but a ranged class should be good to get a "feeling" for the game.

Is a DH really that boring to play? Or are the other classes more exciting? Could someone compare a DH<>Amazon ?
I think its hard to really make a decision based off the beta, its an extremely small piece of the game and alot of skills and how said skills work together + itemization later on will play a large part in how these classes shape up.
Artanisix
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(04-09-2012, 08:54 PM)

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I found DH very fun.

The fact of the matter is that all the classes are wildly different, and it's hard to say which class that YOU specifically will find enjoyable without YOU specifically trying out the class. You're bound to find at least one class that you love to play.
FrontalMonk
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(04-09-2012, 08:55 PM)

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Originally Posted by Realyn: View Post
Read through the last pages and stumbled on the class post. Sadly I never had the chance to play the beta. I'm gonna start HC right away and thought about a DH first.
Don't get me wrong, most likely I'll die the first time before I even get to Diablo, but a ranged class should be good to get a "feeling" for the game.

Is a DH really that boring to play? Or are the other classes more exciting? Could someone compare a DH<>Amazon ?
DH feels more like a cross between Amazon and Assassin. Obviously got all the bow attacks, but DH also has the traps and such from Assassin.
garath
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(04-09-2012, 08:56 PM)

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#9386

Originally Posted by aliencowz7: View Post
I think its hard to really make a decision based off the beta, its an extremely small piece of the game and alot of skills and how said skills work together + itemization later on will play a large part in how these classes shape up.
It really is. The classes are barely even coming into their own by lvl 10 and 13 just isnt enough to get a good picture of how the class is going to play out.
Realyn
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(04-09-2012, 08:58 PM)

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#9387

Originally Posted by FrontalMonk: View Post
DH feels more like a cross between Amazon and Assassin. Obviously got all the bow attacks, but DH also has the traps and such from Assassin.
Yeah that's what I thought too. Especially with tumble(? the roll) you are very mobile. I'm just a bit confused, because I read something like "DH is boring, just auto attacking" sooo often. On paper the DH looks way more than the Amazon in D2 ever has been.

Really looking forward to play her. Or the Barb ... or the Wiz... ah goddamn.

edit: are there still beta key throwaways or did I completly miss that? Didn't had that much time the last one-two months.
scorpscarx
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(04-09-2012, 09:02 PM)

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My favorite D2 builds were firewall sorc and lightning trap ass, leaning towards DH trap build even though honestly it sounds quite boring to me for some reason.

I have yet to play the beta, but I love the female DH animations, so that basically has me won over a tad. Wizard is a very close second I think.
aliencowz7
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(04-09-2012, 09:09 PM)
#9389

I mean just think of the kind of characters you had in d2 at level 13 compared to when you got them higher level. Even items alone can cause a character build to evolve greatly over the course of the game and that's not including the ability to no mix and match skills to find ones that work together better as well as just the general idea of unlocking more toys as you level.

As for demon hunter being boring, the only thing the vast majority of bowazons used in d2 was multishot and aimed arrow lol.
Joe Shlabotnik
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(04-09-2012, 09:17 PM)

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DH is fun. Honestly I've found all of the classes fun by the time they're maxed out in the beta. Some of them (like DH) have a lame first couple of levels, but that's like an hour of game time, so who cares.
FrontalMonk
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(04-09-2012, 09:24 PM)

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Originally Posted by Realyn: View Post
Yeah that's what I thought too. Especially with tumble(? the roll) you are very mobile. I'm just a bit confused, because I read something like "DH is boring, just auto attacking" sooo often. On paper the DH looks way more than the Amazon in D2 ever has been.

Really looking forward to play her. Or the Barb ... or the Wiz... ah goddamn.

edit: are there still beta key throwaways or did I completly miss that? Didn't had that much time the last one-two months.
DH is boring like ALL the classes in D3 are boring. for the first 5 or so levels. Once you unlock a handful of skills and have more than 2 to work with at a time, the game really opens up gameplay wise. I really think the most limiting thing isn't even the number of skills, but the number of simultaneous active skills in the very beginning.
99%
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(04-09-2012, 09:59 PM)
#9392

Originally Posted by Realyn: View Post
Read through the last pages and stumbled on the class post. Sadly I never had the chance to play the beta. I'm gonna start HC right away and thought about a DH first.
Don't get me wrong, most likely I'll die the first time before I even get to Diablo, but a ranged class should be good to get a "feeling" for the game.

Is a DH really that boring to play? Or are the other classes more exciting? Could someone compare a DH<>Amazon ?
I dont think you can do HC from the start.

And as everyone says, around level 13 all classes are cool. Thats why I can't decide. (except monk ovbviously)
Realyn
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(04-09-2012, 10:20 PM)

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#9393

Originally Posted by 99%: View Post
I dont think you can do HC from the start.

And as everyone says, around level 13 all classes are cool. Thats why I can't decide. (except monk ovbviously)
So the lvl 10 HC thing is only for the beta?
maniac-kun
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(04-09-2012, 10:25 PM)

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#9394

Originally Posted by Realyn: View Post
So the lvl 10 HC thing is only for the beta?
In the full game you have to beat the game on normal difficulty to unlock hardcore.
Realyn
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(04-09-2012, 10:27 PM)

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#9395

How sad. Thought it would be hillarious to start with HC,
Thrakier
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(04-09-2012, 10:35 PM)
#9396

I never got a key for the beta. :( I was flagged in battle.net, but now there is just "Diablo 3" as "my game" but no beta...
Ricker
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(04-09-2012, 10:41 PM)

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#9397

Originally Posted by Thrakier: View Post
I never got a key for the beta. :( I was flagged in battle.net, but now there is just "Diablo 3" as "my game" but no beta...
Can't you start downloading it? if it's in your game list,download it and start playing(not now because it's down for patch)...that is how I got in....you log in the game with your account ID and password.
Thrakier
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(04-09-2012, 10:44 PM)
#9398

Originally Posted by Ricker: View Post
Can't you start downloading it? if it's in your game list,download it and start playing(not now because it's down for patch)...that is how I got in....you log in the game with your account ID and password.
No, it's just a "buy now" thing. It once was "you were chosen for D3 beta, come back soon"...but it never actually changed. :(
TylerD
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(04-09-2012, 11:16 PM)

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#9399

Originally Posted by Realyn: View Post
So the lvl 10 HC thing is only for the beta?
Nope, all indications are it will be like that in retail too.

Originally Posted by maniac-kun: View Post
In the full game you have to beat the game on normal difficulty to unlock hardcore.
As of right now in retail you level a character to 10 and hardcore mode will be unlocked.
Horseress
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(04-09-2012, 11:48 PM)

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#9400

Just got a Beta Key!!!!

But no server now... ¬¬