[parasight]

MMA Weekly tweeting that Bendo/Guida is a done deal for the Fox card as well.

[yacobod]

nah this fight has definitely been set up to put The Reem over. It's pretty transparent. Brock doesn't react well to getting hit, and he's being put up against the best striker in the division.

Obviusly the fight was booked to put overeem over, brock being the biggest ppv draw will help expose reem to north american audiences. But storylines can always change, and if brock wins it can easily set him up for another title run, which is $$$ for the ufc. Good match making.

Dream scenario is brock by hammerfists. The lolz will be off the charts.

[Brian Fellows]

MMA Weekly tweeting that Bendo/Guida is a done deal for the Fox card as well.

GO GO BENDO!

[WrikaWrek]

vs




Right before 2012.

THINK ABOUT IT

[Chamber]

MMA Weekly tweeting that Bendo/Guida is a done deal for the Fox card as well.

Odd that a probable #1 contender fight won't be on TV.

Then again, I highly doubt Cain/JDS goes the full 5 rounds.

[TheNatural]

Wow I'm SHOCKED they got this one together. Zuffa is really stepping up with the match making lately, I must say. I gotta go for Brock though, I don't like the guy much, mainly because I hope he gets a win to keep him from retiring. He's only got so much time left I imagine, it sucks all this colon stuff he's dealing with. The guy draws money.

[yacobod]

Odd that a probable #1 contender fight won't be on TV. Then again, I highly doubt Cain/JDS goes the full 5 rounds.

What's the other televised fight? Tito/shogun?

[Host Samurai]

Overeem. Finally. OMG OMG OMG. This is so sick.

[TheNatural]

What's the other televised fight? Tito/shogun?

I thought this was supposed to only be a one hour special. Originally I thought it was just going to be one fight.

[DKehoe]

What's the other televised fight? Tito/shogun?

For Fox? I thought it was going to be a one fight show since it was a 5 rounder

[BigKaboom2]

Does Dana want to kill Brock or something? God damn.

I think so. Heavy handed #3 heavyweight vs. huge draw who cringes every time he gets punched is horrendous matchmaking.

[Chamber]

For Fox? I thought it was going to be a one fight show since it was a 5 rounder

Yeah, Cain/JDS is the only fight on the main card. The rest are prelims.

[Heel]

Guys get busted up all the time in fights they win (fedor, etc), so not sure what your picture proves. Moving on, we got 2 massive personalities squaring off here. I wonder if brock is going to put overeem over for the us audiences, or is he getting ready for another title push.

From the UFC judging criteria:

G. The heavier striker who lands with efficiency, deserves more credit from the Judges than total number landed. 1. If the striking power between the fighters was equal, then the total number landed would be used as the criteria. 2. The total number of strikes landed, should be of sufficient quantity favoring a fighter, to earn a winning round.

Check the FightMetric. The disparity in strike quantity was negligible round-to-round. It was a close fight and in no way a robbery.

[Ryck]

Yeah, Cain/JDS is the only fight on the main card. The rest are prelims.

So... prelims on FX or Facebook??

[alr1ght]

YES

[Chamber]

So... prelims on FX or Facebook??

Probably Facebook. They can't start airing on FX until the Spike deal expires.

[TheNatural]

Probably Facebook. They can't start airing on FX until the Spike deal expires.

Um, doesn't it expire when the FOX deal starts, hence, the main fight on FOX?

[Chamber]

Um, doesn't it expire when the FOX deal starts, hence, the main fight on FOX?

No, Dana explained that their deal with Spike always allowed them the chance to air a show on broadcast TV. As far as cable goes, they're still with Spike and Versus until the new year.

[BigKaboom2]

Fedor vs. Monson in Russia later this year if this translation is accurate: http://translate.google.com/translat...ra-jeff-monson

[yacobod]

Does dana let josh barnett back in the ufc if he wins the hw tournament?

[DKehoe]

Does dana let josh barnett back in the ufc if he wins the hw tournament?

They seem to have made up so I would imagine so.

[parrotbeak]

I'd have to go with Reem in this, but surprised it seems like everyone thinks Brock is going to get slaughtered. He won't have anything for Reem standing, but when was the last time Reem went against a world class 300 lb wrestler?

Anyway, December is a long way away; I'm sure someone will drop out.

[TheNatural]

FYI - December 30th is on a Friday to avoid New Years Eve. First Friday UFC PPV ever I believe?

[BigKaboom2]

I'd have to go with Reem in this, but surprised it seems like everyone thinks Brock is going to get slaughtered. He won't have anything for Reem standing, but when was the last time Reem went against a world class 300 lb wrestler?

Who would you pick in Duffee vs. Lesnar? I love asking people this question.

[Fersis]

I'd have to go with Reem in this, but surprised it seems like everyone thinks Brock is going to get slaughtered. He won't have anything for Reem standing, but when was the last time Reem went against a world class 300 lb wrestler? Anyway, December is a long way away; I'm sure someone will drop out.

Underrated ground game .... Alistair Overeem has </Goldie>

[AiTM]

Yea people are looking at this wrong. Reem has horrible cardio, and Ive never seen him face a wrestler the caliber of Brock.

[DKehoe]

Picking Brock, Overeem may fight too conservatively, like he did against Werdum, for fear of being taken down.

[Heel]

I think so. Heavy handed #3 heavyweight vs. huge draw who cringes every time he gets punched is horrendous matchmaking.

I don't see the issue. Lesnar is ranked above Overeem. Classic wrestler vs. striker match up.

I can play devil's advocate and say Lesnar has already beaten a guy with sledgehammer hands and questionable cardio.

[TheNatural]

Fedor vs. Monson in Russia later this year if this translation is accurate: http://translate.google.com/translat...ra-jeff-monson

LOL and he can crushing begins. Just wondering, on the record, if Jeff Monson a top 10 heavyweight? He got KO'ed by some guy named Jordan Edwards in an event called 'Backyard Brawls 3' in his last fight. Just making sure on the record Jeff Monson isn't #2 in the world or anything before Fedor kills him. :P

[Chamber]

I don't see the issue. Lesnar is ranked above Overeem. Classic wrestler vs. striker match up. I can play devil's advocate and say Lesnar has already beaten a guy with sledgehammer hands and questionable cardio.

Reem is ranked #3 just about everywhere.

As a firm believer in ring rust, I think this is kind of a raw deal for Brock. I think he'll be in the fetal position shortly into Round 1.

[JaskoX1]

I'd have to go with Reem in this, but surprised it seems like everyone thinks Brock is going to get slaughtered. He won't have anything for Reem standing, but when was the last time Reem went against a world class 300 lb wrestler? Anyway, December is a long way away; I'm sure someone will drop out.

Brock doesn't drop out from injuries, only diseases, it'll have to be overeem. Besides, a lot of money is on the line, so I doubt a drop out will occur.

[El_TigroX]

God damn the back half of this year is looking amazing - barely a bad card - UFC 138 aside.

This is just the cherry on top. I can't wait to see this fight.

I'm not really a Brock fan, but I'm going to go for him on this one, just out of sympathy for all the health issues he's been through. That has to suck to keep being taken out during your physical prime.

[Heel]

Reem is ranked #3 just about everywhere. As a firm believer in ring rust, I think this is kind of a raw deal for Brock. I think he'll be in the fetal position shortly into Round 1.

On the subject, what rankings list does everyone go by? I've always thought of Fight Matrix as the standard. They keep the historical ranking archives as well.

I think all the rankings can agree that outside of JDS and Cain, Lesnar is next on the totem pole in the UFC. He beat Carwin, Mir didn't. Makes sense to me.

[BigKaboom2]

On the subject, what rankings list does everyone go by? I've always thought of Fight Matrix as the standard. They keep the historical ranking archives as well.

I usually just look at the USA Today ones but they've become more and more shady about the methodology since introducing them (and stuff like Okami being ranked higher than Sonnen is laughable) : http://www.bloodyelbow.com/rankings

Re: Carwin/Lesnar vs. Mir, someone said recently that Mir would beat Carwin 9 times out of 10 and I definitely agree with that.

[parrotbeak]

Who would you pick in Duffee vs. Lesnar? I love asking people this question.

Todd Duffee? I don't really remember his fights other than his Frankensteinian head.

[yacobod]

If brocks chin is bad, what is overeems?

[Chamber]

On the subject, what rankings list does everyone go by? I've always thought of Fight Matrix as the standard. They keep the historical ranking archives as well. I think all the rankings can agree that outside of JDS and Cain, Lesnar is next on the totem pole in the UFC. He beat Carwin, Mir didn't. Makes sense to me.

I usually reference Bloody Elbow for present day rankings and Fight Matrix for past years.

And I'm really not sure what to think of where Carwin fits into things after that JDS fight.

[NomarTyme]

Great fight for the UFC. Dana got to go full force on this shit.

[bloodydrake]

If brocks chin is bad, what is overeems?

sorry but sergei kharitonov punching anyone in the ear twice like that and they'll fall down.

not sure its brocks chin thats bad its his heart when it comes to being punched in the face

[Heel]

I usually just look at the USA Today ones but they've become more and more shady about the methodology since introducing them (and stuff like Okami being ranked higher than Sonnen is laughable) : http://www.bloodyelbow.com/rankings Re: Carwin/Lesnar vs. Mir, someone said recently that Mir would beat Carwin 9 times out of 10 and I definitely agree with that.

Never really checked out Bloody Elbow rankings. Thanks.

I guess you could think that regarding Carwin vs. Mir, but even then Lesnar beat Mir in their last outing. You'd almost certainly have to rank Lesnar higher than Mir.

If Mir keeps winning we'll eventually see what he can do against the top of the division. Kind of curious who they match him against now. Looks like he's destined for a rematch.

[yacobod]

Id rank brock over mir too, even in the first match a green lesnar was whooping that ass before he got caught. The 2nd time he murdered mir.

[Chamber]

Mir/Nogueira 2 seems certain for UFC Japan. I think the winner of Schaub/Nog was always going to get Mir.

[Heel]

Mir/Nogueira 2 seems certain for UFC Japan. I think the winner of Schaub/Nog was always going to get Mir.

Yeah I think so too. Then you're left with Carwin vs. Nelson. Sounds good to me.

Edit: On second thought, I doubt they'll put two guys on 0-2 skids against each other. Nelson beat Schaub too, so maybe Nelson vs. Nog? Then give Mir a chance to redeem himself against Carwin? This scenario potentially has two guys sent packing out of the UFC in an already top heavy division, though. They could go a lot of different ways.

[yacobod]

Mir/Nogueira 2 seems certain for UFC Japan. I think the winner of Schaub/Nog was always going to get Mir.

Mir would ko nog again, japan deserves mirko nog 2, or bob sapp nog 2.

[Heel]

Mir would ko nog again, japan deserves mirko nog 2, or bob sapp nog 2.

Nog vs. Minowaman for an unsanctioned Super Hluk title fight. Book it.

[parrotbeak]

A Bob Sapp piledriver would end the current Nog's life.

[SUPREME1]

If brocks chin is bad, what is overeems?

Are both of those to the back of the head?

[Master Thespian]

Mir would ko nog again, japan deserves mirko nog 2, or bob sapp nog 2.

I'm in.

[ldcommando]

Wow, I stay like 2 hours away from the internets and 2 big fights are announced.
War Reem and Bendo

[ldcommando]

And also, macDonald vs Ebersole:
http://www.ufc.com/news/ufc-140-fight-card-updates?ufc