petethepanda
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(04-20-2012, 06:10 AM)

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#8401

I know people love it but I'm very quickly getting tired of Professor Spacetime. It was a great little background reference type of thing, but it's too specific and one-note to be so prominently featured so often. I mean, I've seen all of the 05 run of Doctor Who and a good handful of old episodes so I "get" it but it's just not that amusing beyond the initial "heh it's like old cheesy DW.".

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they do a 100% Doctor Spacetime episode. They've been building it up that much.
Gunloc
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(04-20-2012, 06:26 AM)

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#8402

This show is neat.

Also, Jeff in that tight green hoodie? Yes please.
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RatskyWatsky
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(04-20-2012, 06:40 AM)

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#8403

I really liked this episode. I was laughing throughout, so it puzzles me to read that so many people (and critics) didn't think it was that funny. Outside of 'Remedial Chaos Theory', it might have been the funniest episode of the season for me.

Dinosaurs VS. Riverboat Gamblers. Awesome!
KibblesBits
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(04-20-2012, 06:41 AM)

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Originally Posted by petethepanda: View Post
I know people love it but I'm very quickly getting tired of Professor Spacetime. It was a great little background reference type of thing, but it's too specific and one-note to be so prominently featured so often. I mean, I've seen all of the 05 run of Doctor Who and a good handful of old episodes so I "get" it but it's just not that amusing beyond the initial "heh it's like old cheesy DW.".

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they do a 100% Doctor Spacetime episode. They've been building it up that much.
In a way it was a 100% Inspector Spacetime episode.

The Inspector was put in danger and rescued by his companion all in one episode.
markot
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(04-20-2012, 06:52 AM)

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#8405

I didnt think it was one of the funniest, but it was touching and showed us more about Annie and Abed. I liked it ^_^
Ventilaator
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(04-20-2012, 07:24 AM)

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#8406

Easily the best episode since the return in my mind. So many great bits inside an absolutely ridiculous central concept.

Originally Posted by 24FrameDaVinci: View Post
And this is why I don't bother watching this show.
That made about as much sense as an albatross singing the Croatian national anthem during an underground toothbrush wedding.
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joshcryer
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(04-20-2012, 07:48 AM)
#8407

So good, we need gifs but I'm too tired to make any. :(
Diggeh
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(04-20-2012, 08:24 AM)

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#8408

Meta-meta.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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(04-20-2012, 08:29 AM)

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#8409

Originally Posted by AniHawk: View Post
that episode shouldn't have worked but it did
.
Oreoleo
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(04-20-2012, 08:31 AM)

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#8410

Not the funniest episode (though I looooved the Dean's moment of sober realization in the cold open: "Get your life together, Greg"), but it seemed to have that je ne sais quoi that has been lacking a bit since the return. Nice to see some character development for Abed.


Originally Posted by KibblesBits: View Post
Has there been an episode where the Dean has NOT touched Jeff?

:3
Haha that too. Sometimes they bring a ton of attention to it, but I loved that they kept it totally subtle in this ep. Anyone who isn't a fan wouldn't think twice about it, or even notice it probably.
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heliosRAzi
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(04-20-2012, 08:42 AM)

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#8411

Troy likes butt stuff. Britta did butt stuff to Subway.

Perfect couple.
Pie and Beans
(04-20-2012, 10:44 AM)

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#8412

Finally some actual funny stuff in this episode, the Troy meltdown mainly.

But boy have they run the Inspector Spacetime 'joke' into the ground. This season seems to be all about the gimmicks though, and is a pale shadow of the previous two (which while it had gimmicks, didnt let them dictate the entire seasons of the show)
ipitydatfu
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(04-20-2012, 12:58 PM)

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Maddog
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(04-20-2012, 01:43 PM)
#8414

I could not stand this episode at all. The dreamatorium stuff got old far too fast. The constant changing of people into other people just bugged the hell out of me. It came across as if they figured out how to do the special effect and then just decided to use it over and over and over.

I'm all for an Annie / Abed episode but they missed a perfect opportunity to have some Annie on Annie action (even just a hug would have melted my brain).
gabbo
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(04-20-2012, 02:02 PM)

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Originally Posted by Pie and Beans: View Post
Finally some actual funny stuff in this episode, the Troy meltdown mainly.

But boy have they run the Inspector Spacetime 'joke' into the ground. This season seems to be all about the gimmicks though, and is a pale shadow of the previous two (which while it had gimmicks, didnt let them dictate the entire seasons of the show)
I too hope it fades into the background more in the coming weeks, but I think it was useful for this episode and having Annie come to understand Abed better.
GoutPatrol
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(04-20-2012, 02:22 PM)

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#8416

Originally Posted by heliosRAzi: View Post
Troy likes butt stuff. Britta did butt stuff to Subway.

Perfect couple.
And you KNOW they'll have beautiful children.
Jim
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#8417

I'm really finding it more and more difficult to really love Community these days. It sucks, but I think I liked it better when it was more about silly Community College antics with a gimmick episode here and there than this meta-meta character development stuff. I dunno.
Zilch
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(04-20-2012, 03:39 PM)

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#8418

Originally Posted by Maddog: View Post
I could not stand this episode at all.
^
Lijik
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(04-20-2012, 03:52 PM)

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#8419

Originally Posted by 24FrameDaVinci: View Post
And this is why I don't bother watching this show.
Oh no!! OPINIONS!
KibblesBits
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(04-20-2012, 03:57 PM)

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Originally Posted by Orellio: View Post
Haha that too. Sometimes they bring a ton of attention to it, but I loved that they kept it totally subtle in this ep. Anyone who isn't a fan wouldn't think twice about it, or even notice it probably.
I tend to find the stuff I notice on the show others don't so much. It probably makes my comments look like non sequiters.
Net_Wrecker
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#8421

Originally Posted by Jim: View Post
I'm really finding it more and more difficult to really love Community these days. It sucks, but I think I liked it better when it was more about silly Community College antics with a gimmick episode here and there than this meta-meta character development stuff. I dunno.
Same. The show is still interesting because of how far they take it conceptually, like the most recent ep. but I laughed WAY more watching season 1 than anything since.
petethepanda
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(04-20-2012, 04:13 PM)

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#8422

They shouldn't have done so many effects in this, imo. Just taking out the wireframe-Abed running between people (I'm willing to bet the average Community viewer could easily keep up without it) would have made it 10x better visually. And too many green screen shots of rooms dissolving and such. Would have liked to see some more clever practical shots.
Nappuccino
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(04-20-2012, 04:18 PM)

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#8423

Originally Posted by petethepanda: View Post
They shouldn't have done so many effects in this, imo. Just taking out the wireframe-Abed running between people (I'm willing to bet the average Community viewer could easily keep up without it) would have made it 10x better visually. And too many green screen shots of rooms dissolving and such. Would have liked to see some more clever practical shots.
I don't know... I actually liked most of the effects. Which isn't something I thought I would say about this episode given how badly they were implemented earlier this season.
King Of Fuh
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(04-20-2012, 04:26 PM)

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#8424

This episode made Abed a little too borderline clinically insane for my liking.... However it had some pretty amusing parts. I really liked the Troy/Britta "kiss" and Troy's general breakdown. The Dean's appearance was also great. I have to wonder if Chevy's "I have no clue what's happening" line was even scripted, lol.

I also enjoyed that all the vending machines in the background sold buttered noodles.
btkadams
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(04-20-2012, 04:28 PM)

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Originally Posted by petethepanda: View Post
They shouldn't have done so many effects in this, imo. Just taking out the wireframe-Abed running between people (I'm willing to bet the average Community viewer could easily keep up without it) would have made it 10x better visually. And too many green screen shots of rooms dissolving and such. Would have liked to see some more clever practical shots.
i actually thought the effects were handled very well. it would totally confuse people if they had less wireframe-abed. you're giving the average tv viewer too much credit. even i had a moment where i wasn't sure who was who.
AlphaTwo00
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(04-20-2012, 05:04 PM)

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#8426

I don't get it. what the hell is buttered noodles?
JDSN
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(04-20-2012, 05:05 PM)

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#8427

Ouch, they really tried to capture the feeling of that claymation episode, but it was just cringe-worthy. Last episode was great because it played the show's strengths (characterization and interactions), this shit just feels like pandering to a constantly decreasing (and deservedly so) fanbase.
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walbertsmith
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(04-20-2012, 05:11 PM)

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#8428

For those commenting on Abed's mental health... I remember reading something where Dan Harmon expounded about how he most closely identified with Abed (and as a sidenote, the least with Shirley, which is reflected in her fairly unimaginative storylines).

Abed (like Dan) are only able to thrive when everything is in a very clear, concise and "logical" order... last night's story arc put this idiosyncrasy smack dab right front and center. The show obviously does take it to an interpretive extreme, but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the aspects (like being shackled in a "locker") hits very close to home for Harmon himself.

Nice, found the article:

http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/09/mf_harmon/all/1

Absolute must read for all Community fans.
Manmademan
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(04-20-2012, 05:20 PM)
#8429

Originally Posted by AlphaTwo00: View Post
I don't get it. what the hell is buttered noodles?
exactly what it sounds like?
Dan
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(04-20-2012, 05:26 PM)

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Originally Posted by Jim: View Post
I'm really finding it more and more difficult to really love Community these days. It sucks, but I think I liked it better when it was more about silly Community College antics with a gimmick episode here and there than this meta-meta character development stuff. I dunno.
I'm perfectly fine with exploring these concepts, but there needs to be a little more funny. I don't always need laugh-out-loud moments, but I want to chuckle or at least be having fun. This episode was a little too much a Very Special Episode of Community. Gotta keep a balance of fun and deep character investigation.
inky
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(04-20-2012, 05:53 PM)

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#8431

Originally Posted by Jim: View Post
I'm really finding it more and more difficult to really love Community these days. It sucks, but I think I liked it better when it was more about silly Community College antics with a gimmick episode here and there than this meta-meta character development stuff. I dunno.
Pretty much.
KibblesBits
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(04-20-2012, 05:54 PM)

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Originally Posted by walbertsmith: View Post
For those commenting on Abed's mental health... I remember reading something where Dan Harmon expounded about how he most closely identified with Abed (and as a sidenote, the least with Shirley, which is reflected in her fairly unimaginative storylines).

Abed (like Dan) are only able to thrive when everything is in a very clear, concise and "logical" order... last night's story arc put this idiosyncrasy smack dab right front and center. The show obviously does take it to an interpretive extreme, but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the aspects (like being shackled in a "locker") hits very close to home for Harmon himself.

Nice, found the article:

http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/09/mf_harmon/all/1

Absolute must read for all Community fans.
I remember reading that a while ago, wondering if it had been posted and feeling too lazy to check the thread because the thread is too damn big.
Canuck76
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(04-20-2012, 06:36 PM)
#8433

Originally Posted by Net_Wrecker: View Post
Same. The show is still interesting because of how far they take it conceptually, like the most recent ep. but I laughed WAY more watching season 1 than anything since.
Totally agree. Not enough jokes and not fast enough. At it's best it has both things firing on all cylinders. I did love the Troy inception joke. People were patting themselves on the back so frigging much when that movie came out and i love how it's so embarrassing for Troy that he doesn't understand it

Also the show revolves a lot around Abed and his mental state. I would like a few moments where someone teaches him something than the other way around
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Incendiary
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(04-20-2012, 07:59 PM)

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#8434

I liked this episode because the Annie/Abed dynamic is another relationship that isn't normally explored.

I do miss all the one-liners and quick dialogue from the first season. But on the other hand, Troy's rant this episode was a bunch of his one-liners compressed into one thing so that wasn't too bad.

Problem is, we all want the characters to develop, but we don't want to spend episodes learning about their development. We just want the funny.
Bootaaay
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(04-20-2012, 08:18 PM)

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#8435

I don't seem to mind when Community drops the funny in favour of character exposition, because they've done a genuinely good job in creating characters I find myself actually caring about. Sure, perhaps they could do a better job of priming those character driven episodes with some of the snappier dialogue that made Community so appealing in the first place, but I'm content to sit back and let the series tell the story it's trying to tell without too much thought to what the show now is and now isn't. I still love it. *shrugs*
snesfreak
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(04-20-2012, 08:30 PM)

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#8436

We have a review of it on DHS if anyone wants to read it.
http://www.danharmonsucks.com/2012/0...-episode-3-16/
Just to be clear, I didn't write it.
My reviews would be little more than "OMG BEST EPISODE EVER!!11!1111!1!1" every week.
Damon Bennet
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(04-20-2012, 08:44 PM)

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gaf makes me enjoy things less. I watch an episode, like it and then when i browse gaf I see what could have been done better and I realize I knew that but ignored it for the sake of enjoying the show.

Its with everything, i dont know. Maybe I should stop reading the threads for community and fringe and whatever.

On the other hand, this can be the best part of the ride. lost gaf was phenomenal. well I guess I just have to see.


btt: I enjoyed the episode, liked the cgi, liked the jokes and the character developement. and the endclip. i was afraid after the first episode with that ego-apple etc that the rest of the season will turn to be shit, but i genuinely enjoyed most episodes
Slevin
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(04-20-2012, 09:03 PM)

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Originally Posted by Damon Bennet: View Post
gaf makes me enjoy things less. I watch an episode, like it and then when i browse gaf I see what could have been done better and I realize I knew that but ignored it for the sake of enjoying the show.

Its with everything, i dont know. Maybe I should stop reading the threads for community and fringe and whatever.

On the other hand, this can be the best part of the ride. lost gaf was phenomenal. well I guess I just have to see.
Ha, I feel the exact same way. I didn't read the GAF Community threads until the start of season 3. At times, all the dissecting and criticisms hamper my enjoyment of the show because I can't help but notice them once they're pointed out. But it also brings up awesome things that I missed and makes me appreciate reading the discussions. In the end, good or bad, it's awesome being able to participate with others on a show that I enjoy so much.
gabbo
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(04-20-2012, 09:20 PM)

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Originally Posted by Slevin: View Post
Ha, I feel the exact same way. I didn't read the GAF Community threads until the start of season 3. At times, all the dissecting and criticisms hamper my enjoyment of the show because I can't help but notice them once they're pointed out. But it also brings up awesome things that I missed and makes me appreciate reading the discussions. In the end, good or bad, it's awesome being able to participate with others on a show that I enjoy so much.
That's what I like, finding little things I missed or misinterpreted come up here and discussing even the smallest jokes with CommunityGAF. It's rare that I outright don't like an episode, so I never get discouraged by people dissecting things they didn't like about an episode or how the show has changed since Season 1 (To hell with the show's faults. Haters can sit on their balls!), so I just take it in stride.

This is nowhere near as bad as watching ChuckGAF go at it over any given episode at the very least.
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Forceatowulf
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(04-20-2012, 09:46 PM)

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#8440

Really enjoyed this episode. One of my favorites.

Surprised so many people were iffy on it. eh
Originally Posted by ipitydatfu: View Post
I fucking LOVED this line. I've always had similar feelings toward women.

I've pretty much always preferred women in tennis shoes to high heels, and panties to thongs, for example. Always felt like that was really weird of me.
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AlphaSnake
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(04-20-2012, 10:48 PM)

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#8441

Originally Posted by walbertsmith: View Post
For those commenting on Abed's mental health... I remember reading something where Dan Harmon expounded about how he most closely identified with Abed (and as a sidenote, the least with Shirley, which is reflected in her fairly unimaginative storylines).

Abed (like Dan) are only able to thrive when everything is in a very clear, concise and "logical" order... last night's story arc put this idiosyncrasy smack dab right front and center. The show obviously does take it to an interpretive extreme, but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the aspects (like being shackled in a "locker") hits very close to home for Harmon himself.

Nice, found the article:

http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/09/mf_harmon/all/1

Absolute must read for all Community fans.
Wow...it sort of explains how much weirder the show has gotten. Harmon is basically channeling himself through Abed more and more, where as earlier on, he was being more vicarious with Jeff and Abed, as well as other characters. His character focus is changing, and I think that's what's been bothering me a lot about this show lately. Some characters are just getting too ridiculous and exaggerated.

It's also pretty crazy to think that Harmon himself likely has Asperger's and never knew it.
Talon
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(04-21-2012, 12:35 AM)

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#8442

That was the best open in a while.
Messi
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(04-21-2012, 01:42 AM)

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#8443

Odd question time. I am going to orlando for all of June. I see that Childish Gambino is preforming in the hard rock live for 30 bucks. What are the chances this gig sells out? could I go up to the door on the day of the show and get 3 tickets? Would I be better buying some now through ticketmaster. Its just I am from ireland and it is a pain in the ass to book tickets and pick them up with id/ref numbers ect before the show.

I really really want to see him live. I never thought i'd get the chance. But amazingly he is in florida while I am.

<3 Troy

While I am at it. How big is this hard rock live venue? I like small venues.
gabbo
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(04-21-2012, 02:27 AM)

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Originally Posted by AlphaSnake: View Post
Wow...it sort of explains how much weirder the show has gotten. Harmon is basically channeling himself through Abed more and more, where as earlier on, he was being more vicarious with Jeff and Abed, as well as other characters. His character focus is changing, and I think that's what's been bothering me a lot about this show lately. Some characters are just getting too ridiculous and exaggerated.

It's also pretty crazy to think that Harmon himself likely has Asperger's and never knew it.
I think by season 4 (if we get so lucky), Jeff getting his degree/the group graduating will be the main focus of the story.
Lijik
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(04-21-2012, 02:43 AM)

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Originally Posted by btkadams: View Post
i actually thought the effects were handled very well. it would totally confuse people if they had less wireframe-abed. you're giving the average tv viewer too much credit. even i had a moment where i wasn't sure who was who.
Same here. After the past few super cheap effects since the return I expected this to be pretty awful and went in low expectations. That I enjoyed it so much surprised the heck outta me.


Originally Posted by Forceatowulf: View Post
I fucking LOVED this line. I've always had similar feelings toward women.

I've pretty much always preferred women in tennis shoes to high heels, and panties to thongs, for example. Always felt like that was really weird of me.
Also same here! When Troy said that I was like "Oh shit Im not alone!"
Zeitgeister
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(04-21-2012, 02:55 AM)

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#8446

seems like Jeff is warming up to the dean or something. Or is that just my impression?
Nert
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(04-21-2012, 02:55 AM)

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I'm actually really enjoying the emphasis on character growth and the more ambitious/abstract frameworks for episodes. Now that the show is deep into season 3, it makes sense that they've moved on from episodes centered around classes and wacky teachers to focus more on how these people are changing. It can sometimes mean less laughs per minutes, although I think each joke lands harder for me in episodes with less of them (I lost it when Pierce talked about not sitting on his balls partially because it was so unexpected after what had just happened). And, as a result of episodes like this, I care a lot more about the characters and I'm interested to see what happens to them.

I just wish that there was a clearer sense of where Jeff was heading, as he seems to have reverted back to how he was earlier on (more egocentric, less invested in the group). This was brilliantly addressed in Remedial Chaos Theory, but there has been almost nothing about it since then.
KibblesBits
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(04-21-2012, 03:45 AM)

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Originally Posted by Zeitgeister: View Post
seems like Jeff is warming up to the dean or something. Or is that just my impression?
What the Dean could be doing...
HolyCheck
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(04-21-2012, 03:59 AM)

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Originally Posted by KibblesBits: View Post
I've been wondering about this. The deans touches are always there.. and at first Jeff was very wtf is this.. but lately he's not so bad with it
roosters93
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(04-21-2012, 03:59 AM)

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Great episode. Troy's breakdown was hilarious.
The splicing of Danny Pudi's voice into Joel's, Troy's, Britta's etc when he became them is amazing. That must have taken so much effort and I don't think most people will truly appreciate it and I wouldn't put it past some people to not even notice it entirely. It's the little stuff that makes this show amazing.

Also didn't mind the wire-frame effect. It made for the funny make-out sesh so w/e.



Originally Posted by Arment: View Post
Blazer tag must become a thing.

I'm with everyone who doesn't know how to feel about the episode. Not sure I like where they've taken Abed lately. They've escalated his weirdness.
Originally Posted by AlphaSnake: View Post
It was an odd episode...not sure how I felt about it. Abed is just beyond weird at this point...

I think they're just making his Aspergers more realistic. (And Pudi is doing a fantastic job)

Originally Posted by Messi: View Post
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