[Karram]

I still believe Gears 1 was the best Gears campaign.

[mickcenary]

I wish I could have experienced that with you guys. When Gears came out I wasn't even in country (I was deployed). I didn't discover Gears until Gears 2 launched, and well, we all know how that went.

Ah, don't worry too much. I made my foray into Online Gaming with Gears 2.

Great move.

[Alienshogun]

Ah, don't worry too much. I made my foray into Online Gaming with Gears 2. Great move.

Well I've been online gaming since quake 1. I was an Xbl beta tester back when you had a disk with 4 demo games on them. I loved the shit out of Moto gp back then. Ah the good old days of ghost recon and unreal tournament, lol. My account is 9 years old, lol.

[Barrow Roll]

Well ain't that some bullshit.

Agreed. One of the main selling points of Gears 3 that was hyped up so much before release and the Beta was "Dedicated Servers" not "Dedicated Servers if you buy our map packs" except for one playlist.

[Alienshogun]

Agreed. One of the main selling points of Gears 3 that was hyped up so much before release and the Beta was "Dedicated Servers" not "Dedicated Servers if you buy our map packs."

You're still gettin servers, it's silly to act like you aren't.

[Barrow Roll]

You're still gettin servers, it's silly to act like you aren't.

I never said we aren't. But the servers are under the condition that you either buy the latest map pack or play in only one playlist. I happen to think those conditions are bullshit, none of those limitations were made known when they were hyping dedicated servers. I bought the season pass so it personally doesn't affect me, but I still think that's really lame.

[Alienshogun]

I never said we aren't. But the servers are under the condition that you either buy the latest map pack or play in only one playlist. I happen to think those conditions are bullshit, none of those limitations were made known when they were hyping dedicated servers. I bought the season pass so it personally doesn't affect me, but I still think that's really lame.

If you think you never said that then I think you need I reread your previous post. Also, what they did to allow those that didn't buy all the dlc to keep playing on servers is exactly right. ATM that playlist is taking up space some of us that bought all the dlc would like I to see replaced with other things like stranded.

[Barrow Roll]

If you think you never said that then I think you need I reread your previous post. Also, what they did to allow those that didn't buy all the dlc to keep playing on servers is exactly right. ATM that playlist is taking up space some of us that bought all the dlc would like I to see replaced with other things like stranded.

Agreed. One of the main selling points of Gears 3 that was hyped up so much before release and the Beta was "Dedicated Servers" not "Dedicated Servers if you buy our map packs."

Well no where in there did I say "we aren't getting dedicated servers." Perhaps what I said was a bit broad and you inferred that as being what I meant. Perhaps I should add the clarification "except for one playlist" at the end but I'm hoping we can end a silly argument about technicalities and assumptions right here.

It's not as bad as locking people out of playlists like they did with Halo 3 but it's still pretty bad. People that bought the game under the pretense of having dedicated servers but didn't buy the map pack are not suddenly less worthy of playing on servers (except for one playlist). Maybe they might have reconsidered their purchase of the game had they known that?

[Alienshogun]

Well no where in there did I say "we aren't getting dedicated servers." Perhaps what I said was a bit broad and you inferred that as being what I meant. Perhaps I should add the clarification "except for one playlist" at the end but I'm hoping we can end a silly argument about technicalities and assumptions right here. It's not as bad as locking people out of playlists like they did with Halo 3 but it's still pretty bad. People that bought the game under the pretense of having dedicated servers but didn't buy the map pack are not suddenly less worthy of playing on servers (except for one playlist). Maybe they might have reconsidered their purchase of the game had they known that?

This quote;

Agreed. One of the main selling points of Gears 3 that was hyped up so much before release and the Beta was "Dedicated Servers" not "Dedicated Servers if you buy our map packs."

is quite clearly complaining/stating that if you don't have the DLC you're not playing on dedicated servers. No matter how you want to spin it now.

And the answer as I said before, is that's not the case. You can still play on servers without the DLC.

As for the second paragraph of this post, it's a non issue. Those without the DLC still get dedicated servers, they simply go to the playlist that's for them. Those who continue to support the game get the other playlists with map rotations, and rightly so.

[Barrow Roll]

This quote; is quite clearly complaining/stating that if you don't have the DLC you're not playing on dedicated servers. No matter how you want to spin it now.

Well for the most part you aren't! But just for you I'll go edit the quote to add "except for one playlist" even though sure anyone else would know exactly what I meant.

And the answer as I said before, is that's not the case. You can still play on servers without the DLC.

In one playlist. One.

As for the second paragraph of this post, it's a non issue. Those without the DLC still get dedicated servers, they simply go to the playlist that's for them. Those who continue to support the game get the other playlists with map rotations, and rightly so.

Haha, for you maybe. Even for me since I bought the DLC. But people that bought the game with the pretense of it being on dedicated servers now have a game that can only be played on servers in one playlist unless they shell out more cash. No matter how you want to spin that, it sounds like bullshit to me.

[Alienshogun]

Well for the most part you aren't! But just for you I'll go edit the quote to add "except for one playlist" even though sure anyone else would know exactly what I meant. In one playlist. One. Haha, for you maybe. Even for me since I bought the DLC. But people that bought the game with the pretense of it being on dedicated servers now have a game that can only be played on servers in one playlist unless they shell out more cash. No matter how you want to spin that, it sounds like bullshit to me.

And no matter how much you want to spin it they still get to play on servers. So your original point is a non issue.

That will be my last post on the issue since it's just becoming repetitive now. ;)

[Barrow Roll]

That will be my last post on the issue since it's just becoming repetitive now. ;)

You said it. Agree to disagree has never been more appropriate.

[Gr1mLock]

The fact that if you bought the game launch day and played it until now without buying any dlc, and now have less access to dedicated games is pretty fucking dishonest. I think if they did something like this a year or so down the line it wouldnt have been that big of a deal, but barely six months into the game? I never pegged epic for the type of the company that would put people into a 'give us handfuls of sweaty bills or youre assed out' position. Gears 2 was about as shitty of a game as can be but to their credit they supported it and tried to fix what they could. Being obligated to buy content I may not particularly like just to be able to have a decent online experience is not what I or anyone else signed up for when they bought this game.

[Alienshogun]

The fact that if you bought the game launch day and played it until now without buying any dlc, and now have less access to dedicated games is pretty fucking dishonest. I think if they did something like this a year or so down the line it wouldnt have been that big of a deal, but barely six months into the game? I never pegged epic for the type of the company that would put people into a 'give us handfuls of sweaty bills or youre assed out' position. Gears 2 was about as shitty of a game as can be but to their credit they supported it and tried to fix what they could. Being obligated to buy content I may not particularly like just to be able to have a decent online experience is not what I or anyone else signed up for when they bought this game.

You're not obligated to do anything. You still get dedicated servers. You got exactly what you were promised.

[maxcer0081]

this whole dedis/DLCmaps/playlist bullshit could be remedied by just giving everyone the maps. I know some people would bitch and complain about wasting money on the season pass but if it means better playlists and not segregating the community I'm all for it.

what's going to happen with DLC4? another map pack that splits the playlist three ways instead of two?

[Gr1mLock]

You're not obligated to do anything. You still get dedicated servers. You got exactly what you were promised.

Absolutely not. The service being quantifiable was reduced significantly. If my electricity company told me that starting tomorrow that i'll get electricity but only for my toasters, guess what. Thats not exactly what i was promised. Yea i still get 'electricity' but its nowhere near what i was promised. This is especially deplorable considering how heavily Cliffy pitched this every chance he got. Referencing how 'yea we shit the bed with gears 2 but this is us 'caring''.

[Alienshogun]

this whole dedis/DLCmaps/playlist bullshit could be remedied by just giving everyone the maps. I know some people would bitch and complain about wasting money on the season pass but if it means better playlists and not segregating the community I'm all for it. what's going to happen with DLC4? another map pack that splits the playlist three ways instead of two?

Those will probably be given out free too. Especially if it's beast DLC.

[AndyMoogle]

Absolutely not. The service being quantifiable was reduced significantly. If my electricity company told me that starting tomorrow that i'll get electricity but only for my toasters, guess what. Thats not exactly what i was promised. Yea i still get 'electricity' but its nowhere near what i was promised. This is especially deplorable considering how heavily Cliffy pitched this every chance he got. Referencing how 'yea we shit the bed with gears 2 but this is us 'caring''.

That analogy doesn't work. You still have access to dedicated servers for all modes.

If you want an electricity analogy, you should have said that you'll get electricity to everything in your house; you just don't have a choice in which object gets electricity when you enter a room. Perhaps you want to use your toaster, but unfortunately only your oven gets electricity this time. Leave the room and enter again, and perhaps your toaster gets electricity instead.

Anyway, I'd say that most Gears 3 players have the Fenix Rising map pack considering that the game hasn't been this popular since release day, and most players seem to choose playlists other than "Player's Choice".

[ToyMachine228]

Do we know what this weekend's playlist is yet?

And I just want to add...The Gnasher update has ruined this game.

[Alienshogun]

Do we know what this weekend's playlist is yet? And I just want to add...The Gnasher update has ruined this game.

There was no gnasher update.

[malfcn]

I think they already gave up on Events.

[Alienshogun]

I think they already gave up on Events.

Huh? There's one every weekend.

[malfcn]

Wingman with bow/gnasher starts, bow only has one arrow, all bow pickups, golden snub

They announce in less than 24 hours now though. It's like they just wait to make something up. What happened to seeing Ticker Tuesday and planning for it?

Server alert! A portion of our US servers are down at the moment. Working quickly to resolve. Stand by.

Server update, all systems are back online. Play on.

[Brakara]

Huh? There's one every weekend.

Indeed. And for almost 5 months straight and counting. Not sure what malfcn had been smoking...

Edit: malfcn, why would they announce this far ahead in time? You know there's an event every weekend.

[Hoya Destroyer]

Has Warzone and Execution gone back into their own individual playlists for anyone else?
It says 0 players worldwide for both. Maybe I lost my gears 3 update somehow? I wonder how to get the latest update back?

[Hoya Destroyer]

Ok. Now WZ and Exec are back under the same playlist. They were separate for a few hours IIRC. How odd.

[Gr1mLock]

That analogy doesn't work. You still have access to dedicated servers for all modes. If you want an electricity analogy, you should have said that you'll get electricity to everything in your house; you just don't have a choice in which object gets electricity when you enter a room. Perhaps you want to use your toaster, but unfortunately only your oven gets electricity this time. Leave the room and enter again, and perhaps your toaster gets electricity instead. Anyway, I'd say that most Gears 3 players have the Fenix Rising map pack considering that the game hasn't been this popular since release day, and most players seem to choose playlists other than "Player's Choice".

Thats kinda what i said. I implied that at no point would you get electricity for everything you previously did (simultaneously)..i just didnt feel like listing every appliance i own? Either way. I actually saw this mytical 'escalation' map people keep talking about. It didnt get voted on of course..but at least i know it exists.

[ToyMachine228]

There was no gnasher update.

There is no spoon either.

[LosDaddie]

Horde mode tonight, Gears-GAF? Same time for me....starting around 10pm.

anybody game?

[malfcn]

My bad, I jumped the gun. But I thought the whole point of the calendar was to see what upcoming events there would be. I haven't booted the game in while. But last time I did, it never had any new info.

[Ballistik]

My bad, I jumped the gun. But I thought the whole point of the calendar was to see what upcoming events there would be. I haven't booted the game in while. But last time I did, it never had any new info.

There are events every weekend. What they did give up on is updating the calendar, as you mentioned. It should be updated frequently because as it is, it's just ad space for their DLC from last year.

[Brakara]

From @therealcliffyb:

We've temporarily removed "Overpass" from map rotations. It's got a few flow issues. #Gears3

Nice.

[sixteen-bit]

Wow. Winter could have made this game awesome.

There's a snowy bit in Gears 2 that could have worked well with this.

RIP Overpass. You won't be missed.

[D4Danger]

From @therealcliffyb: Nice.

good. good.

now to get Hotel, Sandbar and Rustlung removed

[Alienshogun]

good. good. now to get Hotel, Sandbar and Rustlung removed

Wat?

[D4Danger]

Wat?

Rustlung is garbage. It's easy to trap people in the spawn because you start way back and the only way out is a tunnel (which is easy to control) and a small room (which is also easy to control). Give it enough time the other team will start spawning behind you and just kill everyone.

Hotel is just shit. I haven't like it since the game launched.

[Alienshogun]

Rustlung is garbage. It's easy to trap people in the spawn because you start way back and the only way out is a tunnel (which is easy to control) and a small room (which is also easy to control). Give it enough time the other team will start spawning behind you and just kill everyone. Hotel is just shit. I haven't like it since the game launched.

I've not had an issue on either map, and hotel is basically mansion which was also a great map.

[Nub]

I've not had an issue on either map, and hotel is basically mansion which was also a great map.

Same here. I've never had one single issue on either map. Rustlung is actually my favorite dlc map so far.

[D4Danger]

I've not had an issue on either map, and hotel is basically mansion which was also a great map.

Mansion was a good map. The area round the boom out in the garden felt much tighter than the wide open area of hotel.

The inside of Hotel is pretty poor as well. People either use it to shortcut the nades or camp the sniper. Very little happens in the middle area.

I think my problem with Rustlung is more to do with the spawns than the map. I feel like Mercy has similar issues but the area you spawn in is wide open so it's easier to escape whereas rustlung is basically 2 tunnels.

[Seth Balmore]

Mansion plays cooler than Hotel though. I don't dig the larger scale and there's less variety in the elevation levels... also lack of interesting cover structures outside whereas both versions of Mansion had plenty of that.

Goodbye and good riddance Overpass. Since Cliff said it's temporary I wonder if they'll take back what they said about not being able to/not wanting to change the layout of shipped maps?

[ZROCOOL]

Wait, people hate hotel? I find it really balanced.

[sixteen-bit]

I love hotel

[Grisby]

Hotel is fun. I honestly didn't have a problem with Overpass either.

[Barrow Roll]

Hotel is cool but spawns are really terrible.

[HigherLevel]

Overpass is gone? Awesome. Every time I play the first map that pops up is Overpass. Such a bad map.

[unomas]

Overpass is gone? Awesome. Every time I play the first map that pops up is Overpass. Such a bad map.

Never end up playing it in ranked, but in quick match I almost always quit out before it even started, such a poorly designed map for TDM. I'm on a Gears hiatus for a little while, we'll see if I ever make it from green to red, but playing against a team of 5 green level players is almost completely void of fun in ranked when you're running solo.

[Grisby]

Played 2 hours tonight. Overpass is still in there though. Finally played a couple of good rounds on new maps back to back.

The soft lighting on Escalation is phenomenal. I wan a whole DLC lit like that.

[j-wood]

I just happened to score a free 800 MS points through the live rewards...is the Fenix map pack worth it?

[IvanI]

I just happened to score a free 800 MS points through the live rewards...is the Fenix map pack worth it?

the whole Season Pass is "worth it" if you're a regular Gears 3 player. Better get that.

[abracadaver]

Bit of DLC4 info:

quinndelhoyo @BrandoBaez I can tell you that it will be dope. Especially for the weapon skin fanatics out there.

these are the weapon skins that are supposed to come with DLC4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYElUy4suhI