[Jtwo]

There were some nice CRT televisions from about 10 years ago that featured VGA inputs. They weren't HD, but had VGA in.. I really want to find one for my Dreamcast. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

[tkscz]

Oh, and has anyone tried hooking up their NES/SNES/Genesis to a HD tube tv like this one:

Dear god do those things make Wii games look amazing. My friend has a 40in HD CRT (thinks that what it's called). Yes, the SNES games look awesome on it. Same with NES and Genesis. Got a Retron 3 and it uses the S-video for both the Genesis games and SNES games (NES doesn't support them), and they look amazing on that TV.

[CoachKevin]

My dad ended up having a 27" toshiba tube from 2005ish in his garage that I sold him when I worked at best buy. Going to check it out this am. Free is always better.

edit: here is the tv (Toshiba 27AF45):



Might see if I can find a good 32" eventually.

[meppi]

I know the XRGB-3 improved compatibility with stuff over the 2, and from what I've heard, the Flamemeister was supposed to improve compatibility even more... point is, it actually might be the solution you're looking for.

That would be awesome, but I'm very reluctant to plunk down another 400-500€ on a device that I'm not sure will work perfectly on everything I want to use it with.
Especially after doing the same with the X-RGB2 last year...

[tkscz]

My dad ended up having a 27" toshiba tube from 2005ish in his garage that I sold him when I worked at best buy. Going to check it out this am. Free is always better.

If it still works they look great for retro games and the Wii if you have one. Only TVs I know that do great with 480p and higher. Though people complain about them only going up to 1080i but I don't see the point of complaining about that.

[CoachKevin]

The 27" Toshiba fits perfectly on my cheap ikea cube thing:








LOOKS FUCKING AWESOME!

Still might pick up a 32" If I can get a nice 32" Toshiba in the same line.

[ElectricBlanketFire]

Don't post a thread with "Retro" in the title a week before E3.

I can't handle it.

[Chacranajxy]

I wish someone was still manufacturing CRT monitors. Totally wanna get one, but not one that some dude with a beer gut defiled with his hunting shows. I'd actually pay as much as I'd pay for a new-fangled TV, actually.

[CoachKevin]

Don't post a thread with "Retro" in the title a week before E3. I can't handle it.

This thread is a year old...

[Hiltz]

I have this one using component cable.

[CoachKevin]

I have this one using component cable. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...34XBR-o_MT.jpg

If I can find one like that with a matching stand I will jump on it. Still seems like there are tons of those Sony HD tvs in the 34 range for cheap on CL.

[CoachKevin]

Sorry to bump this back up, but two tvs popped up for free in my area and I am not sure which one to pick up.

One is a 34" Sony HD 34HS510:



Or a 32" Sony Wega Trinitron:



99% of it's use will be fore NES/SNES/Genesis/N64 and hopefully Sega Saturn gaming. Which one is the better pickup?

[CoachKevin]

Sorry for the bump, but I am heading back to Tokyo in 5 weeks, what are the best stores to buy the XRGB-Mini Framemeister or XRGB-3?

[sixteen-bit]

Hey, I've got 3 consoles that used RGB SCART connectors, so can someone recommend me a good SCART switch that supports RGB? It's getting to be a hassle plugging and unplugging everything.

[Foxix]

Just get the old tv. I bought a 27" trinitron and the geometry is far from perfect but I'll be dammed if my old games don't look a thousand times better than on my lcd. I sort of set up a retro game station next to my tv hdtv with a cheap set of speakers and that trinitron. That and a lot of games from that era can be nearly unplayable with all the input lag new televisions produce.

Edit: I did not realize how old this thread is.

[Yes Boss!]

Hey, I've got 3 consoles that used RGB SCART connectors, so can someone recommend me a good SCART switch that supports RGB? It's getting to be a hassle plugging and unplugging everything.

Micomsoft make a nice looking one, and is true to the style of their upscalers. A little pricier than a cheapy euro switch:

http://www.solarisjapan.com/products...Selector-.html

[sixteen-bit]

Micomsoft make a nice looking one, and is true to the style of their upscalers. A little pricier than a cheapy euro switch: http://www.solarisjapan.com/products...Selector-.html

Thanks. Do you have first-hand experience with this?

[Yes Boss!]

Thanks. Do you have first-hand experience with this?

No, don't own it. I think I'm going to get it soon, though. I'm in the same boat with a PCE/Saturn/SFC and only one RGB input on the flamemeister. The Selecty 21 button selection process does seem a bit convoluted. Can't really find review on it either. And the $100+ price tag is kinda out there. It is Micomsoft, though, and their stuff is always a class act.

Others are inexpensive selectors from europe (some auto, some not), which I'm sure would work just as well at a fraction of the cost. I know the scart pinouts are different but for a selector the wiring should be the same so a euro selector should work, I'm guessing.

[CoachKevin]

WHY DID YOU HAVE TO BUMP THIS???

One of the TRADER stores in Tokyo has an Frameister for 33,000 yen... Seriously considering it...

[Yes Boss!]

WHY DID YOU HAVE TO BUMP THIS??? One of the TRADER stores in Tokyo has an Frameister for 33,000 yen... Seriously considering it...

Just get it, won't be going down in price and you won't regret it. Did you happen to see any XRGB-2's there? That is the one I'm in the market for. Also, try off the main drag and get into the little shops if you have time as you will likely find it for 5000 cheaper, or even used. If you still want VGA input go for the XRGB-3 (if you intend to use it for DC).

[Ranger X]

I wouldn't buy that upscaler. Sounds like a ridiculous price to me. Mod your SNES with component cables instead. It will cost less and will give you a mindblowing image, even when upscaled by your TV.

For comparison, I own and excellent Panasonic TAU 32 inch with progressive scan, it's like the best freaking non-HD CRT TV in existence. Well, my SNES plugged in there simply can't reach the image clarity and precision that an upscaled SNES game on my Wii with component cables on my HDTV can.

[Yes Boss!]

I wouldn't buy that upscaler. Sounds like a ridiculous price to me. Mod your SNES with component cables instead. It will cost less and will give you a mindblowing image, even when upscaled by your TV. For comparison, I own and excellent Panasonic TAU 32 inch with progressive scan, it's like the best freaking non-HD CRT TV in existence. Well, my SNES plugged in there simply can't reach the image clarity and precision that an upscaled SNES game on my Wii with component cables on my HDTV can.

Sigh, there is a time and place for everything. I reckon most folks who go for the upscaler already have access to a great CRT. But it is nice to have options and tools for different approaches. Plus, other options for scanlines and stuff like that. I do the Wii-component thing as well, but I send it straight through the upscaler and it looks even more impressive on an HDTV.

And bottom line: Wii and its great VC catalog is simply not going to help with Saturn.

[Tain]

Wii and VC is too limited to replace any of the consoles, really.

[Chacranajxy]

The Virtual Console's lineup of games kinda sucks, and the Wii's video hardware makes them look worse than the original consoles anyway.

But what do I know? I'm fucking drunk.

[Ranger X]

The Virtual Console's lineup of games kinda sucks, and the Wii's video hardware makes them look worse than the original consoles anyway. But what do I know? I'm fucking drunk.

You are drunk indeed! lol

[Yes Boss!]

You are drunk indeed! lol

Nah, he is right. But he must be drunk because he has not posted the F-Zero GX compare!

But it is pretty much a non-issue for most of the VC titles. They all look pretty great on Wii. Now, 80% of the PCE/TG-16 games look like shit cause of the filtering. And a good bunch of the VC-Arcade titles looks crappy but that is on the providers.

[dark10x]

Thinking of buying an XRGB-Mini here shortly. Since I'm going to have to leave my old CRT behind, this seems like the second best method for playing retro systems on my primary display.

You are drunk indeed! lol

Nah, he's right on the money. The Wii definitely produces an inferior picture quality when playing Virtual Console titles. The Wii itself has a shitty DAC which produces edge ringing, but more importantly, titles that were originally 240p are scaled when played on the Wii. You can't do proper 15khz 240p.

[sixteen-bit]

Thinking of buying an XRGB-Mini here shortly. Since I'm going to have to leave my old CRT behind, this seems like the second best method for playing retro systems on my primary display. Nah, he's right on the money. The Wii definitely produces an inferior picture quality when playing Virtual Console titles. The Wii itself has a shitty DAC which produces edge ringing, but more importantly, titles that were originally 240p are scaled when played on the Wii. You can't do proper 15khz 240p.

Is there any way to do true 240p through homebrew? I was told Wii is capable of outputting 240p in the Wii Mini thread. Was that bullshit?

[brainpann]

I dont have an XRGB 3 or Framemeister but I do have an XRGB2-Plus and I gotta say, I love it. If you are into classic games and consoles, it it very much worth it.

[metsallica]

Those of you that are into classic gaming on HDTVs, what are your setups like? I'm looking into finishing my home theater and am picking a receiver and speakers, and want to be able to hook up my classic (composite/s-video/component/etc) consoles and my newer (HDMI) components. Is a receiver with tons of inputs and a video scaler the way to go, such as a Yamaha Aventage RX-A2020, or should I go with something cheaper (as that Yamaha supports way more channels than I'll ever need, zones, etc) and use component switchers (cheap-o composite boxes, component, s-video boxes, etc). Would love some thoughts. Would certainly entertain making a Framemeister part of the equation, too.

[Tain]

Is there any way to do true 240p through homebrew? I was told Wii is capable of outputting 240p in the Wii Mini thread. Was that bullshit?

My Wii has definitely done true 240p via both many official VC games and homebrew emulators. Obviously it doesn't bother trying if your system is set to 480p.

[Rm88~]

I'm of the idea of keeping a CRT for retro gaming, but at some point it's probably going to be a better idea to get one of these. Plus I'm guessing Wii looks its absolute best through this.