[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Wednesdays @ 10 on ABC

Synopsis: Wealth, beauty and status define the people in this town, but one woman is willing to destroy everyone for the sake of revenge.

Emily Thorne (Emily Van Camp) is new to the Hamptons. She's met some of her wealthy neighbors, has made a few new friends and seemingly blends into the town. But something is a little odd about a young girl living in a wealthy town all on her own, and the truth is that Emily isn't exactly new to the neighborhood. In fact, this was once her old neighborhood, until something bad happened that ruined her family and their reputation. Now Emily is back, and she's returned to right some of those wrongs in the best way she knows how – with a vengeance.

See the trailer here

So, the pilot just aired. What'd you guys think?

I think it'd decent, albeit a bit soapy and silly. But... I see potential here. Interesting to see the obvious good guy love interest be the dude who might have offed her "fiancee". Also, that tech geek amuses me. The main girl should take him up on his offer of help, but nooo, it's all "That girl is dead, I am The Punisher", but cuter.

What a strange poster. Why would I even use that?

[Replicant]

Will watch! Hopefully it's as trashy as it seems. I expect someone pulling another person to a pool by episode 3 at least.

PS: that tagline is actually true.

[ivysaur12]

Emily Van Camp's face looks like some weird lizard in that poster.

It's also everywhere in LA. Everywhere.

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Emily Van Camp's face looks like some weird lizard in that poster. It's also everywhere in LA. Everywhere.

A shame, she looks pretty otherwise.

Such a weird angle on her face there.

[Door2Dawn]

Rich white women being bitches to each other. Oh boy!

[Treefrog]

It was okay. Lots to pay attention to to wrap your head around the story. Can't wait to see it when the actors hit their stride. Will watch in the future.

[questionmark]

I loved it. Just the kind of drama I need inbetween shows like Sons of Anarchy and Boardwalk Empire.

[Replicant]

I like this better than "Ringer". It's so much darker and the acting are actually convincing. I like how Emily is all sweetness in public but you can clearly see her angry vengeful nature when she's alone.

And that beginning quote from Confucious gave me a nice shiver. The show can end in seriously dark note if the writers have the balls to not go the cliche way of ending a story.

As a side note, what sorcery is Madeleine Stowe practicing? She looks amazing and doesn't look older than when I last saw her in "The Last of the Mohicans". I want to know whose virgin blood she bathes in.

And oh, it did quite well in the ratings:

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...ge-8/#comments

ABC's Revenge got off to a nice start, winning the 10pm hour with a 3.4 adults 18-49 rating and and 10.15 million viewers, 127% better than the premiere of The Whole Truth a year ago. Revenge bettered Ted Danson's debut on CSI's 3.1 adults 18-49 rating, but CSI won the hour in total viewers with 12.59 million. The Stabler-less Law & Order: SVU was last at 10pm with a 2.3 adults 18-49 and 7.6 million viewers.

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

I like this better than "Ringer". It's so much darker and the acting are actually convincing. I like how Emily is all sweetness in public but you can clearly see her angry vengeful nature when she's alone. And that beginning quote from Confucious gave me a nice shiver. The show can end in seriously dark note if the writers have the balls to not go the cliche way of ending a story. As a side note, what sorcery is Madeleine Stowe practicing? She looks amazing and doesn't look older than when I last saw her in "The Last of the Mohicans". I want to know whose virgin blood she bathes in. And oh, it did quite well in the ratings: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...ge-8/#comments

Good news. I'm interested to see how her revenge will play out and I'd get annoyed if it got canceled before that happened.

[catmincer]

Just watched the first episode. Fantastic! I am looking forward to seeing where this goes.

[Paradoxal_Utopia]

I've watched the pilot of like 6 of the new shows this fall, and this one has intrigued me the most, along with Homeland. I admit I'm a sucker for revenge type shows, but this one seems to be done well also.

[ivysaur12]

It's still the #1 new drama of the fall. Impressive, even with a 6.1 lead-in.

[Larson Conway]

Okay I think I'm gonna have to give this one a shot

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

So, new episode tonight! What'd everyone think?

It's still ok to me. The bit with the bar owner dad guy's heart attack was a bit overwrought, but not too bad asides from that. I liked the whole financial downfall method of taking the guy down a peg.

And hey! Emily's dad had an affair with Victoria. And she's pissed at her husband for doing what she did 15 years ago? Tsk tsk tsk, hypocrite. The Nolan dude continues to amuse me. Him and Emily should team up more often instead of him just rudely inserting himself into the situation at hand.

[Gunloc]

Best new show of the season IMO.

[ivysaur12]

Still not on the west coast, but I'm happy for Mike Kelley. I liked Swingtown and I'm glad he's finding some success. I hope the ratings can stabilize in the mid 2s.

EDIT: The promo of Victoria turning into Emily was nice. Liked it.

[Angelus Errare]

I looked up Emily Van's Wiki; there has to be more that she played on. I remember her from somewhere but not sure where. Ugh.

[ivysaur12]

God, Daniel is beautiful. Holy crap. And it's too bad Joshua Bowman is straight.

And no actual credits? Meh. Was hoping we'd get some in episode 2.

[PhoncipleBone]

I looked up Emily Van's Wiki; there has to be more that she played on. I remember her from somewhere but not sure where. Ugh.

Everwood is what I will always remember from.

[TheOddOne]

Everwood is what I will always remember from.

This, thats the only reason I kept watching too.

[Angelus Errare]

Everwood is what I will always remember from.

Never saw the show but I remember her from something else, slightly annoyed that I can't remember.

[Gunloc]

Never saw the show but I remember her from something else, slightly annoyed that I can't remember.

Brothers and Sisters?

[Conflict NZ]

Show is surprisingly good, really hope it gets a second season. Really like the way she screwed over lydia, by sending pictures of her affair to her husbands lawyer.

[questionmark]

Best new show of the season IMO.

I agree. There's still a few shows that haven't aired yet, but Im really loving this show so far.

Brothers and Sisters?

Without looking up her wiki, I'd assume that both Everwood and Brothers & Sisters is listed there.

[Gunloc]

Is it bad that I like Emily/Amanda with Daniel better than I do with Jack? I don't hate Jack, but I don't really care that much about him either.

I hope it wasn't Daniel that was shot in the pilot, there has to be a reason why they didn't show his face.

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Daniel paid someone to shoot a body double so he could fake his death and escape to Cuba while leaving Jack with the murder weapon. He's getting pre-revenge on Emily.

MID-SEASON CLIFF HANGER.

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

An interesting interview with the creator of 'Revenge', Mike Kelley, on where the show will go as it continues:


Mildly spoiler-ish, but not much actually.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/09/24/re...ageID=20302134

The new fall TV season has officially begun, and one of the breakout shows (and one of the favorites around the EW offices) is ABC’s new nighttime soap Revenge. Starring Brothers & Sisters‘ Emily VanCamp as the vengeful Emily Thorne, who seeks retribution for her framed father, Revenge premiered on Wednesday to a surprisingly healthy 10.1 million viewers. So how will this soap play out? “I will tell you will have all of the answers to all of the questions that the pilot poses by the 13th episode,” says creator/executive producer Mike Kelley (Swingtown). “Then we will have an whole new installment of revenge that has to do with the trial of the murderer [of Daniel Grayson] that will take us through the back-half of the first season.” The biggest question is what would season 2 entail? Another revenge saga? Basically, yes, according to Kelley, who cites Dexter as somewhat of a storytelling model. “In our show, there’s a whole conspiracy and seasons worth of people that will reap what they’ve sewn,” says the producer. “Revenge is a universal concept and it’s gonna permeate the show on every level. I plan to do installments of revenge. So I’ll set two installments a season which will be self-contained. They’ll focus on a group of people that need to come down and we’ll introduce new people. We’ll also give other characters on the show a reason to want their own revenge.”

Interesting. So Season 2 may have a new cast, or a returning cast but with new motivations, etc. Based on this and what we've seen on the show so far, all these acts of revenge will probably revolve around the bombing of the plane in 1994.

[questionmark]

Is it bad that I like Emily/Amanda with Daniel better than I do with Jack? I don't hate Jack, but I don't really care that much about him either. I hope it wasn't Daniel that was shot in the pilot, there has to be a reason why they didn't show his face.

That's pretty much exactly how I feel. So the info in the post above this is pretty disappointing.

[Marius_]

Decided to give this show a chance and so far so good, probably the best new show of the season.

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

I'm fairly sure that Emily's plot for revenge is going to spiral out of control and fuck everybody up. That's pretty much a given, right?

The look on the Senator's face was hilarious though at the speech. Everyone's like "The fuck is going on here?"

[Gunloc]

Great episode, probably the best one so far. Still totally the best new show of the season IMO.

I like that they aren't making Victoria a one dimensional villain. I actually wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that she teams up with Emily at the end considering she actually did love Emily's father.

[soultron]

Why is the g red?

[ivysaur12]

Why is the g red?

Originally in the logo, the G was an infinity sign. So that made sense. I don't get it now.

[Gunloc]

Why is the g red?

Red for revenge? (The family she's plotting against is named Grayson, so that could be it.)

Though that's not the logo anymore, they changed the G to an infinity symbol. (Which has plot relevance.)

Originally in the logo, the G was an infinity sign. So that made sense. I don't get it now.

That picture has the old logo.

[Replicant]

I like this show. I saw a preview for next week's episode and Emily is so devious in her machinations that I can't help but love her for it.

[soultron]

Might watch because Nora from HIMYM is on it. And because I enjoy watching socialite snobs burn.

[SyNapSe]

This show is shockingly good. The whole plot seems like something you'd find on the CW but it's really strong.

It's probably my favorite new show this season. It has a bit of cheese and I could do without the Declin/charlotte/adam part so far as it seems like filler that doesn't relate to the plot at this point. Declin is written ridiculous, imo. I can see calling your father a loser but afterwords. Even days still acting that way. It's hard to believe a character like Jack would just stand there and listen to him say some of those things. I'd beat my little brothers ass.

[Larson Conway]

I just watched the first episode. It's actually really good. The lead actress is a real menace here. The quiet fierceness is actually really frightening. Downloading the second episode now! Yay!

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Shit, that was evil. Also, I wonder what Daniel's friend is up to. He seems pretty dastardly. Maybe he and Nolan are in cahoots. Maybe he's Daniel's killer!

And what a shitty shrink.

[Gunloc]

Great episode, Daniel's friend is super shady. Does he really just want his drinking buddy back? Or is there more to this? (Obviously the latter.)

I'm still not convinced that Victoria is the 100% evil ice queen that they are trying to lead us to believe. I know there will be some huge reveal that will turn things on it's head.

Next week looks intense.

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

I dunno, Victoria is incredibly scummy... she had a 9 year old Amanda institutionalized. Plus, she claims to be in love with Emily's dad in the past, but she pretty much fucked him over and destroyed his and Amanda's lives.

At least we know this Daniel/Emily animosity won't last, since the pilot had them at the engagement party.

It'd be interesting if Daniel's friend was another revenge-driven individual related to the plane bombing. That would be an interesting twist.

[Gunloc]

I dunno, Victoria is incredibly scummy... she had a 9 year old Amanda institutionalized. Plus, she claims to be in love with Emily's dad in the past, but she pretty much fucked him over and destroyed his and Amanda's lives. At least we know this Daniel/Emily animosity won't last, since the pilot had them at the engagement party. It'd be interesting if Daniel's friend was another revenge-driven individual related to the plane bombing. That would be an interesting twist.

But I think she was being real when she told the therapist that she still loved Emily's father. And in the flashbacks, they have shown her to be conflicted. (The earrings for example.) She's obviously no saint, but I think she was being coerced into framing him.

It would be amazing if Emily and Victoria teamed up to get the final revenge on the real people behind it.

Any thoughts on next week's jumper? I have a pretty strong feeling about who it is.

[Clevinger]

this show is awesome

[SyNapSe]

this show is awesome

Next week's episode looks crazy. Almost too much this soon into the show.
Clearly, they are setting Victoria up as messed up but not totally terrible. Sometimes, you make one lie or mistake and then you can't get out and it just keeps growing.

The Harvard roommate was a big surprise in this one. It definitely sets him up as a possible second killer option. The lead actress is great at presenting the quiet, no emotion look but you can feel it below the surface.

[The Storyteller]

The latest episode sealed it for me, this show is slightly trashy, but surprisingly well written fun. Definitely a keeper.

I'm loving Victoria and Nolan, the actors are nailing the roles.

I dunno, Victoria is incredibly scummy... she had a 9 year old Amanda institutionalized. Plus, she claims to be in love with Emily's dad in the past, but she pretty much fucked him over and destroyed his and Amanda's lives.

I got the impression Victoria was trying to get Amanda moved to a better institution? I mean, that's still awful, but slightly less I guess?

[Pollux]

Next week's episode looks crazy. Almost too much this soon into the show. Clearly, they are setting Victoria up as messed up but not totally terrible. Sometimes, you make one lie or mistake and then you can't get out and it just keeps growing. The Harvard roommate was a big surprise in this one. It definitely sets him up as a possible second killer option. The lead actress is great at presenting the quiet, no emotion look but you can feel it below the surface.

I'm hoping it was him killed in the pilot and not actually Daniel.

[ivysaur12]

I can't stand Madeleine Stowe... she's so campy and over the top. I realize the show is aiming to be a guilty please, but it's getting a little much.

Mike Kelley is a nice guy and I liked Swingtown, though. Good for him on the full season and the show's success.

[Replicant]

This show completely goes beyond my expectation. I expected a trashy soap but what I got instead is a "Death Note" type of machinations mixed with a bit of soap plotlines.

[Gunloc]

Picked up for a full season.

:D

[ivysaur12]

This show completely goes beyond my expectation. I expected a trashy soap but what I got instead is a "Death Note" type of machinations mixed with a bit of soap plotlines.

Yeah, it's... interesting. And the larger conspiracy about the terrorist bombing has me intrigued.

Revenge-inspired procedural is such a good idea. And the smug-ass look that Emily Van Camp gives every time she "gets em" is great.